Niklas Anttila - What makes him so good?
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- What makes Niklas Anttila such a consistent player on the course? We go over his form and point out some of the things he does differently than most, and speculate what advantages that gives him against the field.
Probably the first thrower I have found who is stylistically very close to me. Shout to / @sebastiantorresdiscgolf for the idea and original comparison!
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First thing I’m asking myself is how do I get quads like this guy
SHUT UP AND SQUAT!
Don’t skip leg day
Be born with different genetics
@HaikesXO don't do my man like that. Why would you discredit all of the work that he has put into his body by saying..."eh, genetics."
Is genetics waking this guy up on a Saturday or Sunday to do work? No, that's hard work and commitment. You should try those sometime instead of making excuses as to why you aren't where you want to be.
@@Christopher-hh8iq The heritability of power-based abilities has been reported in the literature to range from approximately 49-86%. You might want to try reading more often
So I am a softball coach of about 20 years and have played baseball/softball my entire life. I agree with the fact that the "squash the bug" approach is NOT effective. All it does is promote internal rotation of the femur and does not stimulate true pelvic/hip rotation. "Dropping the knee" is the same thing. You will not see any major league hitters or major league batting coaches using that method anymore.
Now I CAN get behind forward thrust from the back leg promoting true pelvic/hip rotation. That coupled with the front brace could seriously increase rotation speed and torque. Great insight. Thanks!
The back leg mechanic is more like pitching than hitting. You don’t squash the bug, you just use your rear glute to drive your momentum and weight forward onto the front foot. And it’s the same for backhand, sidearm, and even putting. Start with weight back, then use your rear glute to weight shift onto the front leg, and only then when all of your weight is out front do you begin to throw the disc.
Excellent analysis...you are spot on and your insights are top notch. Forgive me if I haven't digested all your videos yet... I'd love to see your standstill in more disc golf scenarios (tunnels, shaped drives, etc.) I am a big believer in the standstill potential (golf distance drivers don't run up..I know they have a long driver in their hands yet they generate crazy torgue with a standstill approach) Keep up the great work
Happy Gilmore! Golfers even Long Ballers don't runup because it's already hard as hell to hit the little round ball center club face standing still, but they do typically rock back and forth and get some momentum going, but a lot of the Long Ballers(and PGA pros) also train one leg drill(front leg) like former World Distance Champ Martin Borgmeier. There was a Sports Science episode about the Happy Gilmore with Padraig Harrington gaining 10% distance with a 4mph runup, but was wildly inconsistent striking the ball.
Was really cool to hear your explanation on how he does somewhat of a hybrid x-step/standstill move with the slow runup.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if your guys' long, smooth, linear move is lower impact on the body than some of the "gold standard" hyper-efficient, super twisty forms.
Hope to see more vids like this from you brotha!
Yes! I was thinking the same thing, as my hip is sore from throwing.😀
Great breakdown of a fantastic form! I can't remember who said it but one of the pro's said Niklas had one of the best forms and said it was the best form for AM's and casual players to try to copy and you really broke down why. I, like many people, have been breaking down form to improve my own. I'd love to see a breakdown of Paul Oman's form, its so unique I wonder whats going on there.
I’ve been told by local pros that it’s all about hitting your lines..
no one preaches distance.
375-450’ controlled drives/ up shots is plenty to compete if your hitting your intended lines and targets.
Ohn scoggins is a testament to what I’ve been taught.
Thank you for this video, it really continues driving home a lot of what I’ve been told
Great stuff as always. Would love to get some nose angle deep dives(forgive me if I've just missed them) I feel that that's one of the last pieces to getting this standstill throw deadly.I believe you have mentioned that swing path dictates nose angle so maybe it's just that simple.
This is the new "hot tip" with instructional videos rn. Idk who did it first, probably Slingshot DG. They've been pushing back leg dg for a bit.
It took me awhile to really get this one though.
Robbie C told me: bend your knees AND he did this hop from back to front foot. I went back to the field and bent the knee. Lol! I wasn't getting anywhere for a month.
Then I recently thought about pitching when I played baseball. Pitching is a standstill throw. How do players throw so hard and fast? You lean on the back leg on wind up and push the front leg out and DOWN. When that leg comes down your upper body velocity just explodes.
So: Slingshot with squish the bug, Robbie C wording it a little different for me and my athletic background thinking about pitching mechanics.
I hit the course today. I put that back leg plus pitching plus the off to plant foot hop.....
My dude, my game has changed and I didn't even field work this new tip in.
I think I'm about to make this all click really soon.
Good video and pushing the same tip! It took 2 different coaches and 1 old memory for me to finally deploy this into the run up.
I have a bunch of Niklas shots in my videos and shorts as well. A few from The Open and last year's MVP and Dgpt Championship tournaments. Check his GRIP style too. It's also unique.
Is there a way you can demo this in a video? Would love to try it out.
@NickCarroll if you're asking me, I will be sharing this on my channel soon. I want to do some field work first to make sure I have it locked in and that it was not just a fluke.
As for the channel we are on now, he has plenty of videos that should cover this piece. Sometimes it just depends on how the student learns and how the teacher teaches to bring it all together where we all can truly feel and see the results.
@@bigdiscenergy does the back leg push when the front heel lands or does that happen before? Thanks
@someroastbeefachickenapizz3580 awesome user name!
Think of it like hopping from the rear leg to the front leg.
All that weight you're squishing the bug with, pop off that toe and then move that weight to the front foot. It is such a simple motion that requires so little energy you'll be shocked when you feel the difference.
If you are still having trouble thinking about the timing, think of a baseball pitcher. He lifts his front leg up to load the weight on his rear leg. As he follows through, the front plant leg comes down and his rear leg comes up.
The rear leg will be touching the ground and the front leg won't touch the ground until the back leg pushes off the ground.
Combine that with proper upper body mechanics and you'll explode on that shot.
This was a bit difficult to follow. There are some points I agree with, but I don't like describing anything as static in the dynamic throw like the front leg. Niklas had to take some time off last year mid season due to low spine injury, and I think there are some things in his throw that are not good for that like his rear arm over extension/drag and rear leg extension, both of which were a source of my low spine injury many years ago, I actually thought I would never be able to throw again because it got so bad. YMMV.
Interesting. I think it's the crank over the center with the upper body like in his release frame that would cause a buttload of stress on his spine, and obviously the huge extension to prevent falling at the end can't be great. I wanted to keep it mostly positive though, as I do think he is an excellent thrower. I would add, I think a little bit of weight training goes a LONGGGG way toward injury prevention, so that's where I would point people personally.
I never understood the back leg vs front leg argument. You use both legs. You transfer your weight from your back leg to the front leg, and finish balanced.
back leg disc golf have been described as having weight on your back leg during the entire throw. It got traction from slingshot dicgolf but I dont think he teaches that anymore. His latest squishing the bug video he explains exactly what blitz is talking about here. You dont spin your back leg in place but rather push and from that your knee drop and spin the hip in place for the brace. When your plant heel hit the ground the back leg should be weightless, you can get there in different ways as blitzdg explains.
Back leg is you are actively loading your back leg, glutes and core then unloading all this tension to rotate into your brace.
Front leg is you use momentum to swing the off side of your body like a counterweight to rotate over your brace.
Your videos are great and you teaching style also is great. And……you gotta work on those filler words. The so’s, ok’s, and right’s
Others to watch that do this really well are Kristin Tattar and Evelina Salonen. Evelina really gets a ton of drive and pushes with her back foot to the point that you can visibly see it sometimes. Kristin gets a lot of her power from rooting down after the x-step and really dropping into her power.
Another thing I noticed watching the throws in slow motion is the way the back arm is used after the release...as in not really at all. Niklas's throw and yours end with the chest coming through, straight at the target...and then maybe the left arm coming around for balance, but not forcing the arm around and through as I've seen some instruct. I do this naturally with the forehand but I've never thought trying to bring my chest ("heart" is a better cue for me) through on the backhand. I could see it settling a lot of issues with hitting lines and maintaining quiet form through the shot. Also...the fact that as pure as his form is, and even being as slender as he is, he still rounds and brings the disc behind his body at 0:36 is all I need to see to never, ever try to do the "8:00 to 10:00" "out-in-out" thing on the pull through ever again.
When you said Niklas was 5’10 and 165 I was SHOCKED. I thought he was shorter and didn’t weigh more than me. So I did some digging, on the team Finland website it says he’s 175cm or 5’7 which seems more accurate. If I had to guess maybe 130lbs and 15% body fat. He’s pretty lean. Anyways, my point in addressing this is it’s even more impressive and a great example to aspiring disc golfers that you don’t have to be tall with a large wingspan and an Ezra adderhold body to perform well if you have great form and a strong mental game like Anttila. The fact that he’s actually lean and 5’7, not 165 drives the point home even further. Great video though! Thank you, one of my new fav teachers.
I don’t believe he’s 5’10. Closer to 5’7
@@HaikesXO I’m not sure you read my comment 😝
@@trevormenard the edit button is great, isn’t it? 😉
@@HaikesXO lol you’re trippin my dude. I edited moments after posting because of a typo. It’s in the meta data 🤷♂️ the whole point of my comment was to make the exact point that he’s 5’7. It’s ok if you didn’t read it but you’re trippin my dude.
175cm = 5'9, but I'm guessing he's a bit below that.
So in the two party system of back leg or front leg... you are in some kind of third party?
Good explanation of mechanics! I agree both legs have a role and there can be some variability as to where the power comes from. I dont prefer Niklas' style, it feels like more of a 'throw' and less of a 'launch' to me. And I feel like that creates inconsistencies in AM players like myself. My ideal is reducing and eliminating as many variables as possible. But I can't argue that the style doesn't work! Its just not my personal preference...
Great vid!
Great video! ps. his name is Anttila not Antilla
Much appreciated correction!
Right
10 months of disc golf x those calves = 10 years of disc golf
He is using his back arm a lot. To wind up