SRT - Stop-Motion Race Engine Build TU5J4 / TU5JP4 Stroker Kit 1800ccm 16v Citroen / Peugeot - 4K
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- SRT - Stop-Motion Race Engine Build TU5J4 / TU5JP4 Stroker Kit 1800ccm 16v
- race engine design and calculation - SaxoRacingTeam
- Peugeot 206 - TU5JP4 - engine block
- ZRP rods - stroker kit (N/A high compression - 13,3:1)
- Citroen Saxo - TU5J4 - cylinder head
- CNC machined cylinder head - SaxoRacingTeam
- Ferrea race valves +1mm
- Boubis Cams sports camshafts
- SRT valve spring setup for hydraulic followers
more information:
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music:
Marée by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
(Extended Mix by SaxoRacingTeam)
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#SaxoRacingTeam - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Important Update about the build 🚨
👉🏻 czcams.com/video/CVp0mlHLmis/video.html
#SaxoRacingTeam
Here is the first start of this special engine 💨💥
czcams.com/video/Qh4w6GGxbpo/video.html
Stunning work both mechanically and stop-motion wise.
The level of time invested to make this video is insane.
Yes it was immense 🙈 over 10000 pictures involved 😁 thanks mate 👍🏻
No doubt one of the best videos I've ever seen on rebuilding an engine. straight to the point and very well illustrated, congrats guys!!!
Thank you very much 😎
It was a lot of work involved, happy that you like it! Feel free to share it. ✌🏻
Brilliant video, got to love the little Saxo's and 106's addictive cars!
Thanks mate 😊
Wonderful video, work, and music!
Thank you 😊 it was a lot of work & love involved 🔧
Ja eine die beste Videos die ich gesehen habe.
Vielen Dank 😊
Wow! 😎 beautiful build sir 😊👌
Thank you 😊 😎
Nicely done and extremely neat..
Thanks mate 😎
I have one of these engines laying around, this was very inspiring. I need to find myself a saxo :)
Not an easy task today, but good luck 😎
greetings from greece.. best of choice with boubis cams.. this man is top on his job, used some reprofile set ups my self in the past.. regrinded stock cam or of the self custom ones, doesn't matter, HE KNOWS THE JOB 👌👌👌
Greetings, I can only agree with that.
We work together with Boubis Cams and thats for a reason.
@@SaxoRacingTeam what do you think about cat cames 715? Props from Portugal...
@@joaopedroaguieiras4032 it always depends on the setup, but my suggestion is to choose the right Boubis Cams profile for your application.
@@SaxoRacingTeam my saxo vts are full stock
@@joaopedroaguieiras4032 okay then don’t go for the 715s - a moderate cam profile would be better for you. You can contact me on Insta or Facebook for a quick chat 💬
Just Perfect! Congratulations!
Thank you
Superb video!
Merci 😊
Excellent video ..
Thanks mate, really appreciate that ☺️
exelent video! cheers from Argentina
Mati 420Bmx thanks mate! It was really a lot of work 💪🏻😁
work of art
Thanks 😊
Your video technique is wonderfull.
Thanks a lot ☺️👍🏻
Awesone, beautiful.... Respect!
Thanks a lot 👍🏻
Before tightening the camshaft, the pistons must be set halfway up by turning the crankshaft 90 degrees (a quarter of a turn) counterclockwise. Once the 12 screws on each cam base have been tightened, return the crankshaft to the peg position.
You are basically right, but that cams are not too high lift and there are big cut-outs in the forged pistons.
So for that engine in the video the extra step wasn't necessary.
Good video ! 👍
Thank you =)
Beautiful 👏👏👏👏
Thank you 😊
Just wow 😍😍😍😍😍
Thanks mate 👍🏻
I owned a saxo VTS 1st model with tu5j4, had a lot of fun, now i have a clio rs4 but I miss the saxo a lot, very nice job!
Thanks mate 😊 it was a lot of work !
Amazing Very nice
Thank you 😊
bro im iranian i love tu5 i love you bro♥️🇮🇷🇫🇷
Hehe thank you 😊
Brilliantly done 👍👍👏 quick question… how did you replace the ridiculous plastic oil filter with a proper one? Is this some kind of adapter? Thanks
Thank you 😊
It’s the conversion back to the old style oil filter of the Saxo/106 range.
There is a kit available:
www.peugeot-tuning-parts.co.uk/citroen-c2-vts-oil-filter
Great video!!! and stop motion unreal, I don't think people realise how difficult that is or the time that went into it! I have a question I have a C2 Gt 110bhp by changing the pistons to something like ZRP rods - stroker kit (N/A high compression - 13,3:1) what kind og bhp increase would you gain? (i will be changing the cams aswell. Thanks
Yes it was incredible time wasting 🫣
But I think the result is great 😊
With a well designed engine everything up to 200HP is realistic for a street setup, engine design is one of my services:
saxoracingteam.de/en/services/high-performance-engine-development/
Nice love job......
Thanks mate, it was a hard piece of work to get it done 💪🏻
@@SaxoRacingTeam and I deal with them is easy it just takes patience
Yeah, I mentioned the video and thousands of pictures not the engine build 😁
Building high performance engines is fun 😎
I enjoyed watching it and I am curious if only just upgrade this kit how much power hp can be gained?
So you mean the stroker kit alone, with standard camshafts and cylinder head?
great video, love the build. But i have a question. Where did you get that citroen sport engine stand. Cant find it anywhere
Well it was a official Citroen Sport item at the time the C2 R2 came out. Not available anymore, but with big Lucknow can find a used one somewhere…
@@SaxoRacingTeam thank you for your answer. Gonna search for a used one. Looks amazing
When putting new crank shells in how do you know which ones to order. The Haynes manual has 3 different colour codes which are suppost to match up to markings on your engine block, I can't find any markings. Any ideas?
Race bearings are all in one colour code (black - or the mean tolerance from Peugeot/Citroen).
But if you want you can play with the race bearings with extra oil clearance to make an better fit.
In most cases the markings are not visible after some years of usage, so you have to test it with plastigauge (for example).
tolle Arbeit wie immer Welche Leistung und welches Drehmoment? und was sind die eigenschaften der nockenwellen? Vielen Dank
Vielen Dank =)
Der Motor wird erst noch eingebaut daher gibt es noch keine genauen Leistungsdaten.
Es sind Boubis Cams BCH22++ Nockenwellen (274°/274° Öffnungswinkel - 10,5/10,5mm Hub).
Nice work, but why did you cover the vent? Where do the gases come out of the crankcase?
It's an TU5JP4 block without the external crankcase vent piping, so the crank case ventilation works with the two connections in the valve covers.
Hi,
How did you get the sump baffle kit to fit?
When I went to refit my Peugeot Sport baffle kit, it would no longer work because of the extra throw of the stroker crank.
Is this a custom baffle? if so, do you sell them?
Your Video looks great, and was really interesting to watch.
Best wishes :)
Hi,
I machined some cut-outs in the vertical sheet metal and added some spacers, with that it worked quite well, but still an close call.
Thanks mate =)
Hey I'm planing on turbo charging my peugeot 206 do you guys happen to know how much boost pressure a stock tu5jp4 can handle?. Thanks in advance
It’s all about the complete engine design.
A stock TU5JP4 with stock compression is only good for low boost 🤞🏻
👌👌👌
Thanks 🏁
Have you dynoed it yet? I'm considering my options with my 206 gti now, want to get it closer to 200bhp as stock is a bit dull, any recomendations?
Not yet 🙈
Well for the EW10J4 I would suggest change the head and inlet to EW10J4S and mild EW10J4S cams in conjunction with a standalone management system💪🏻
Pornigraphic! Good job!!!
Thanks mate, it was immense work 🤯
How do you time the cam position with the bottom block before pitting the belt on?
With an dial gauge to find the real TDC. 🕵🏻♂️
6:35 - is it crankshaft sensor?? Amazing video, great job!
Thank you mate 😎👍🏻
No that are temperature sensors for the ecu and the dashboard 😉
I would love to see an explanatory video on how to set adjustable shafts and pulleys for a double-camshaft competition engine, on youtube there is no good video about that.
So you would like to see an „How-to set the correct cam timing with aftermarket cam pulleys“ video?
I think so can do that with my own race engine (my next build) 🤔
@@SaxoRacingTeam
It would be great an explanatory video of how to do it, I bought those same rsx pulleys for my tu5jp4, and near where I live there is no one who knows how to tune the cams, I would love to know how to do it myself.
Okay @EduS2K
I will see what I can do ✌🏻
@@SaxoRacingTeam Thank you very much, if you can put subtitles in English I would appreciate it, I do not understand spoken English very well
Yeah that’s a decision I have to make... 🤷🏻♂️
German or English in the video - and both as subs I think.
Any houses going cheap on your street 😁 I'll be the neighbor to visit & provide the coffee next time....oh I may fire 1000 questions your way as well!
Haha, yeah its not too expensive in our neighbourhood in Leipzig... you're welcome :D
have you ever worked on the super 1600 c2 engine? I saw from the chips that use a phase sensor, but I can't understand where it is located.
Hi, well on stock TU5JP4 engines they use an signal from the coilpack to know the TDC of cylinder 1 - I think you meant that?
@@SaxoRacingTeam with stock ECU it is as you say, he understands which is the first cylinder through the coil, but I have seen that on the super 1600 they use an external trigger whell and from ufficial documentation I see that there is a cam sensor(i presume) that I do not know where it is positioned (support number 7 in the photo)
@@TonyEvo I can only imagine that the sensor goes either to one of the cam wheels (but is pointing in the other direction on the drawing) or it uses the mechanical power steering pump on the inlet cam as trigger.
surely it is as you say. Thanks
it is 1800cc or 1600? is it possible to do that on a tu5 engine?
It is a TU5 engine with 1789,5 ccm.
Basically you can do that on any 16v TU5 engine. 😎
Where did you get that citroen sport engine stand from ?
It was available directly from Citroen Racing when the C2 R2 came out 🏁
Hi on how much you set piston ring gap?
We set the piston ring gaps to 0,38 / 0,40 / 0,40 mm.
hi where can i get a citroen motorsport engine mount?
That was sold by Citroen Sport some years ago. I think it’s not available anymore 🤷🏻♂️
Hi! at 6:36 you install the waterbox. I notice it has a green sensor (water temp) but also a brown sensor below. What is it? Also there is a blue sensor in the head what is this other sensor? Thank you!
All three are coolant temp sensors.
Green - ECU
Blue - coolant gauge in the dash
Brown - extra sensor for vehicles with AC
flic.kr/p/7fyijP
@@SaxoRacingTeam Thank you very much my friend 🙏
what oil filter do you use?
Just a noname high capacity oil filter and after break-in there is now a K&N performance oil filter installed 👍🏻
Fucking hell this deserve milions of views😍😍😍
Thanks mate!
Well that would be nice to get such an audience - feel free to share the video =)
you could clean these at 5:20 but how will you clean these at 3:15 ?
I only removed the superfluous sealant, the seal itself is still there, of course.
🇵🇹👌
Has it gone from 1.6 to 1.8?
Yes it’s now nearly 1800ccm with 80mm pistons and stroked crankshaft 💪🏻
Cool!!! 😍 whats the price of this kit? (with a little less compression, 11.5:1)
Thanks mate 👋🏼
Well there is only a high compression and a low compression kit for the stroker crankshaft. But it’s possible to lower compression in several ways to make it work 😎
Can you say me how much money should be paid for this kit?
@@ahmadrezakia4587 you should calculate about 10k € for a build like you can see in the video 💸💸💸
@@SaxoRacingTeam Tanks bro!
This mony will be my total salary for five years!!!!
Provided that the value of the national currency doesn't decrease!!!
@@ahmadrezakia4587 I know it’s not cheap ✌🏻
But I like to be honest.
Hello Sebastian, great videos and great craftmenship!
What do you think about combining TUJP3 engine block from 1.4 75hp and TU5J4 or TU5JP4 head? Is there any benefits and are they compatible?
Thanks mate 😁
Well in stock form it is not possible.
But we are working on something special, stay tuned ✌🏻
@@SaxoRacingTeam what power are you getting from the 1800 cc conversion?
@@mitchiegxxr350 as soon as the engine is mapped and had it’s break-in process we can say more about that.
Is this a reliable petrol engine in your opinion?
Well it depends on what is reliable for you?
Of course a complete forged engine will never reach the mileage of a stock engine, but compared to other race engine’s that’s a very reliable and nearly service free setup 👌🏻
@@SaxoRacingTeam Yeah, I mean when comparing to VAG Group TSI engines, this should be the reliable one :)
@@HardiHolpus yes I agree ☝️
The TU5J4 engine is in my opinion one of the best engines PSA ever made 💪🏻
why not use xu7 engine? it's already 1.8 16v .
The XU engine weighs considerably more and is very difficult to get into a Saxo/106.
You have completed kit
What do you mean?
Where did you manage to find rebuild parts for this engine?
What kind of parts do you mean?
@@SaxoRacingTeam Bearing shells, rings etc, I can only find parts for the J4 engine
@@iainmacrae6982 some oem parts are not longer available, but regarding bearings there are aftermarket alternatives…
For this specific project we used machined race bearings 🏁
How much does a setup like this cost? A
Well it's really high spec for the power it should make - way over 5k €€€
falta un buen heavy metal
Someone knows if this engine fits in Citroen C3 16.16 year 2006, because I would not like to remove it is full equipment
What do you mean?
You can use the TU5JP4 (109HP) engine as starting point, that engine is stock in the Citroen C3.
@@SaxoRacingTeam If I have that but the question is can I adapt the engine of the C2 VTS? Thank you
@@joanlouray7015 yes but there is no big difference between these engines (just inlet manifold & cams & valve springs), maybe easier to upgrade an TU5JP4 with some parts 😎
@@SaxoRacingTeam 😊😊Thank you good man,, good job,, health,
I haw same engin in my 307 peugeot 15 years and 40000 km working like new.
Yes the TU5JP4 was no bad engine, but a bit boring 🙃
Wv ps kommen dabei raus?
Hi Tiago, der Motor ist eher auf einen optimalen Drehmomentverlauf ausgelegt, es geht also nicht in erster Linie um die Maximalleistung. Trotzdem sollten mindestens 170 PS anliegen 💪🏻😎
@@SaxoRacingTeam dass ist schon genug für diesen motor, es gibt welche die habeb 197 ps, meiner hat 130 ps 😬
Tiago Evora oder über 240 PS 😎 czcams.com/video/1rbhkJm2evc/video.html powered by SaxoRacingTeam ☺️
i need that engine stand...
Yeah original Citroen Sport stuff 😎
What kind of Valve covers are those?👀
Just the stock plastic covers from the TU5JP4 engine 😎
@@SaxoRacingTeam ah i only have the metal ones didn’t know plastic ones were available 👍
@@dannyjost1196 look for the 109/110HP TU5JP4 engines they are equipped with the plastic ones 🕵🏻♂️
@@SaxoRacingTeam Thanks! guess there is advantages in comparison with the metal ones? or there is no special reason for you using them?
@@dannyjost1196 we are using a TU5JP4 engine block for this project, which means we don’t have the stock crankcase ventilation from the block to the head. Because of that it’s better to use the covers with two connections. And of course the easy to change gaskets are a advantage on the plastic version.
And for 1.6 hdi?
We like N/A engines more, sorry ✌🏻
@@SaxoRacingTeam you know some group or team that can do this?
where is your 207 ??????
Hey, we still have the 207 but it’s for sale soon. Maybe I will make the back to back test Video soon 🎬
How much money for that kind of renovation of this engine? thanks
Well that particular engine is very special and was around 10k € 💸😁
@@SaxoRacingTeam materials for renovation was 10k? really?
@@wilddigger8070 yes roundabout, but it’s no renovation I would say.
It’s the ultimate road engine with a lot of custom parts (forged crank, rods & pistons, CNC machined head …)
Me gustaría que me hicieras el motor a mi saxo NFX. Soy de España aún te sigues dedicando a esto?
¿Qué tipo de motor le gustaría construir?
En general, una colaboración conmigo empieza con el desarrollo de un motor:
saxoracingteam.de/en/services/high-performance-engine-development/
@@SaxoRacingTeam quisiera construir un motor NFX para calle muy rabioso…
Por donde puedo contactar contigo mas privado?
@@Jesussguez En el perfil encontrará varias opciones de contacto:
Facebook, Instagram o email a través de la pagina web.
Sin embargo, el inglés sería mejor, ya que solo entiendo el español con un traductor.
@@SaxoRacingTeam ok te contacte por instagram
why its 1.8 liter ? Original one is just a 1.6
A stroker crankshaft is fitted with special connecting rods and pistons, resulting in a displacement of just under 1.8 litres. 🏁
@@SaxoRacingTeam shouldn't you expand the piston bearings ?
@@mertcan. Excuse me, but what do you mean by piston bearings?
@@SaxoRacingTeam how could you make 1.8l without expanding the hole through which the piston enters ?
@@mertcan. Ah okay, you mean the bore of the engine block.
Yes of course this is also enlarged to the maximum dimension, but the main difference is in combination with the stroke of the crankshaft.
Les bielles c15 ca monte ou pas puisque tout les moteur diesel c est forgé en usines exemple un 330 i on a monter des bielles tds jusqu'à 600 ch no probleme du coup y a plus que les pistons a acheter forger
Les bielles diesel ne sont pas toutes forgées en série. Il s'agit ici de bielles ZRP avec des vis ARP adaptées au vilebrequin forgé.
@@SaxoRacingTeam ok merci du renseignement mais moi toutes celles que j ai demonter etait bien plus robuste que celle d essence
@@jeancharlesrabaux5658 C'est certainement vrai pour les pièces de série, mais ici, seules des pièces de compétition ont été montées.
@@SaxoRacingTeam ok moi je dit ca quant on a pas trop d argent ca dépanne exemple les bielles tds bmw supporte jusqu a 600 ch y a un 330 i turbo sur you tub qui a des bielles tds jusqu'à a aujourd'hui tout va bien
@@jeancharlesrabaux5658 Oui pour les petits budgets c'est une solution, mais chez Peugeot/Citroën il y a peu de choix de pièces de série.
Pejo motoru hacıı
Tabii ki, Peugeot gücü!
Y a pas il claque severe ce moteur une belle pieces quand je dit il claque sa veux dire qui dechire grave
Je ne comprends pas très bien ce que tu veux dire.
@@SaxoRacingTeam elle dechire
@@SaxoRacingTeam il dechire ce moteur
@@jeancharlesrabaux5658 Jusqu'à présent, le moteur fonctionne à merveille.
Il y aura d'autres vidéos...
@@SaxoRacingTeam j espere il et trop beau comme on dit chez nous il est bien nee qui veux dire qu il et bon et beau
pure porn *-*
Thanks mate!