How Fast Drivers STEER Using Their FEET...
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If you want to drive fast in sim racing, being able to rotate the car is of paramount importance. Many newer drivers in Gran Turismo or Forza believe this is done using just the steering wheel, But that couldn’t be farther from the truth., and by doing so they’re making themselves slow in Racing Games…
Fast drivers are able to turn the car without the steering wheel - and it’s a vital technique to squeezing out as much time on a lap as possible.
But what do I mean by rotation? If we look at a car from a birds eye view, and jab a pin through the middle of it, the car will spin around the centre point. When you steer in a car, this is effectively what you are doing. helicopter sound take off
Most drivers, when turning into a corner will let off the brakes, and feed the steering wheel into the turn. But, doing this, they are relying purely on the front tyres to get into the corner. Which, is not only slower, but it also increases tyre wear.
Some corners require more rotation, especially the slower breed. And, this simple act of rotation using the wheel won’t cut it. We need a new method to gain more rotation, so we can get through the turn more efficiently.
These fast drivers actually steer or rotate the car using the pedals, just as much as they do with the wheel. I know that it sounds foolish, but it’s true.
Look at this, I’m going to lock my wheel to just 100 degrees of rotation. Not a lot at all, especially to get through a tight turn. We approach it at some serious speed, and not much steering to work with, we won’t get through the turn in a million years.
However, with the technique I’m about to show you, we can get through the turn with absolutely no issue. Well maybe more issues than I expected whilst writing this script… But we managed to get farther than no pedal steering nonetheless. It might not be pretty, or particularly fast. But, it’s a proof of concept. Here’s the amount the car rotated with pedal steering compared to just wheel steering.
So how can you steer using the pedals, and get the car to rotate more dramatically? There are a couple techniques you should master. three way split
As we brake, the weight of the car is shifted forward, and loaded onto the front tyres. As we discovered in my “Why SMooth is faster video”, this extra load of weight gives the tyres more traction. - thus making the car turn better.
But as soon as you left off the brakes, most of this extra weight is removed. So instead of lifting off, then turning in. WHat i want you to try is turning whilst braking.
Enter the braking zone, and slam on the anchors, and as you start to lift off the brakes, turn the wheel into the corner. A general rule of thumb is the more steering you use, the less brakes should be applied.
You’ll notice that the car turns into the corner much faster this way, or in other words, there is more rotation happening due to this shift of weight, and because we’re blending both steering and braking actions, this technique usually allows you to brake a lot later. And all of this combined equals faster lap times. If you hadn’t worked it out yet, this technique is calledtrailbraking.
But, it’s not only on the entrance to a corner that we can steer using the pedals. Say you enter a turn, and you notice you’re starting to understeer whilst on the accelerator. This is because whilst accelerating, the weight is moved to the rear tyres, meaning the fronts don’t have enough traction to steer.
What you can do in this situation is lift off the throttle. Once again moving the weight to the front tyres, allowing you to rotate the car mid corner. This is called blending the throttle. If you want more rotation, be more aggressive with this blend, less? Be more gentle.
Just like this gentle transition, into my next video, in which we discover whether drifting or gripping is actually faster…
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No matter how much times i watch these videos when it comes to driving i forget all of it lol
Just gotta keep practicing, and it'll come naturally. These videos are only to make you aware - so you'll get there sooner.
You’ll eventually learn all those techniques by driving, and try to be aware of your mistakes.
For me, those videos are more useful to have a better understanding of my car behavior, when I’m doing something without paying attention.
Maybe you need someone next to you to coach you while driving.(No im not trying to sell you something)You can have others from your Steam friendlist watch you and give tips.
you dont have to remember half of it, just remember to trail brake, hell & toe without drifting and youre good to go
Can yo make video about chicanes ?
I personally think drifting in and gripping out is a best way to drive trough it
My personal idea and speculations
yeah my trail braking looks like this:
1.brake before corner
2.turn in
3.oh shit its understeer
4.procced to kick the brake (amount of kicking depends on the corner)
5.exit corner
Itsuki moment
You also could've mentioned using the throttle to help rotate the car. Sometimes using less steering and more gas will actually turn the car better. This is especially apparent on mid and rear engined cars.
With RWD
@@maxjonhylb And sometimes AWD
How is it different than drifting or power sliding?
@@arthur9511 Drifting is all about pulling angles, while this kind of "drifting" is done with the least angle possible.
@@getsideways7257 he made a video about four wheel drifting and how gripping is generally better, so I was a little confused. I thought this was the same technique.
I don't even know if you going to read this comment, but your video actually help a lot. That "why smooth is faster" video made me improve my lap times much more.
Because i was driving aggressively, i always ended up oversteering the car, thus making me lose time and/or positions. After learning how to drive smoothly, that rarely happens.
0:57 I saw what you did there
Can we take a moment to appreciate the master work of editing in this videos??
I was thinking the exact thing! The editing is so clean, professional and smooth, very pleasant to watch.
The editing is superb. It must take ages to make
Absolutely
Feels like a "God Foot" tutorial session. Basically a GTR R34 drifting moment in touge.
i tought about it too
SORIYAAAA
Watched because of the edit, Stayed because of the quality content. This is amazing 👍🏻
I like the editing on this video, very fast paced and somewhat comedic. Thanks for all the time you put into these videos!
00:34 that edit with the Vietnam huey helicopter vibe was so subtle. Bravo, bloke, bravo. What a choice.
My favorite way of cornering is a 1999 mr2 with sport tires and letting the car swing and fall through the corner. A little throttle and smooth as butter. If I have to steer past 100 degrees, I'm falling off the road.
GIVE YOUR EDITOR A RAISE!!! like fr such smoothness man its really good
thanks!
I really appreciate your explanation and approach to the execution of it! And the editing too!
I just had to watch it a good number of times to get a better understanding. Being mostly a visual learner, I had to pretend I'm driving while you're explaining to understand the concepts .
I usually already know the techniques you show in your videos because I just do what I feel the car needs so I use this techniques without knowing it, but I still like to watch your videos because they help me explain this techniques to my friends because I don't know how to explain it, I just do it.
NO WAYY HE USED MY SONG WINDOWS BREAKCORE AT THE BEGINNING OMGGGGGGGGGGGG MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
THANK YOUUUUUUU
This is the reason why I like the ferrari 488 gt3. It is son fun at the ring breaking a bit late and make it turn in with the brakes but if you hit a curb you will end up giving the inside barrier a lil kithz
I saw a video of this dude drifting his car back and forth with using just the pedals. Thats what brought me my interest to this video. It didnt really answer my quesrion but it was so interesting and well demonstrated that i wanna watch more
Thanks! It's the same principles for drifting
I love how he technically gets to his promised answer every video (not clickbait) but sometimes he makes weird statements toward the beginning that give the wrong idea entirely (“able to steer the car without using the wheel”, where it should be “using less wheel”) for dramatic effect, which feels like clickbait when you realize what he actually means.
Just came here to say every single one of your videos has been so useful to me. You have a way of breaking things down in a way that it really clicks for my brain in particular. Thank you and keep up the great work love what you do!!!
appreciate the surprising amount of special effects that you've added w/i this video.
I got a thrustmaste t300 back in December but due to college i hadn't had much time to dedicate to racing on it till recently. Im not the fastest but also not the slowest usually. Ive been doing the mx5 cup car racing in assetto corsa and everything you share has become very helpful when i remember it and apply it correctly
When I first switched to a wheel and pedals I was about 15 seconds a lap slower. I want to lie and say I got more and more used to the wheel as I used it, but my neighbors weren't as appreciative of me double clutching as they should have been.
To being the fastest
wow your song choice is amazing, very hip very cool very well produced. Amazing work !
Love your edits! One of my idols!
Your editing improved a lot, is amazing and satisfying
you explained it very nicely great vid
The breakcore-like music in the background makes this videos even better!
Great explanation and video you got the sub 👍🏼
OMG the string between the brake pedal and steering wheel that pulls it out when you turn the wheel is brilliant. I need to start training with this. In regards to the video, I always went by the following:
Good drivers maneuver the car with the steering wheel.
Great drivers maneuver the car with the steering wheel and pedals.
Excellent drivers maneuver the car with the steering wheel, pedals, the car's weight and the curvature of the road.
Underrated channel, the edits are 👌. Subbed.
Your videos and edits are awesome man fantastic job
This is great content, very well put together.
I'm interested to see how your next video goes as well. I've always thought of drifting as the fastest cornering technique, but with it comes a proportional (limiting) factor of the most tire wear, so in most situations it makes more sense to take corners slightly slower than you could while drifting for the sake of saving tires. And that makes sense, considering how frequent pit stops to deal with max tire wear would almost certainly undo any advantage you gained from taking corners at the max speed. However, there is a middle ground between cornering speed and tire wear, if you can find it, where you maximize the amount of speed you can squeeze out of a corner while minimizing the amount of tire you have to pay for it with. Fast drivers will know this as the point where your car is technically sliding, because your tires are just past their grip point, but they're not so far past that you're full on drifting. You're getting the benefit of a drift, since you're able to take the corner slightly faster than what the traction of your tires would provide naturally, but you don't need to go farther than that because after this point you add more tire wear without also increasing cornering speed. And this is regarding asphalt courses with cars that don't have immense downforce, as rally cars and F1 cars (for example) have different solutions to the speed/tire wear problem, given their differing circumstances.
This is all theoretical, so it would be nice to have some data that agrees with it
This is one of the core ideas how to steer a motorbike and I also think it’s much more apparent when riding a bike on street vs car on street so this is the way I learned steering with throttle.
What a Great Video. Thanks for making this 💚
I remember talking about this to a friend. He had no idea what i was talking about. The idea is you want to steer the car with as little steering wheel movement as necessary. Then i heard about slip angle and that blew my mind. Wouldn't use it in endurance type racing though cos it heats your tyres a bit too much.
nice edits man
Why couldn’t you teach my drivers ed class?
Also, forgot to mention, the editing is very good. I really liked this video!
shout out to the editor of the video footage, pleasant to watch as always!
why is the editing so good lmao
I come here to learn but I kept being distracted by the awesome animation and editing, so... I decided to watch it as many time as I need to.
Bro i need a mix of your background music, I love it
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I learned weight transfer on 80's porche that car was really sensitive to it oversteer on the trail braking and understeer on the throttle
YES! i LOVE the string, haha! so glad i subbed to you like 4 minutes ago. i shall try this technique. super scared of spinning. (been telling myself to brake in a straight line for 20+ years!)
Thanks to this video I can now make most of the sharp 90 degree turns on the way home with only around 180 degrees of wheel rotation as long as I am not required to come to a full stop.
Great video and that Windows 95 DnB in the beginning was so, so good.
That sneaky subscribe stat... Made me sub...
Just popped in to say I always love the production style of your videos. That is all.
🚁 subscribed because of the creedence song bit. haha XD Great video
dope vid and dope pizzahotline music
I've learnt this by myself after a thousand hours of messing around in beamng drive! Very interesting to see this concept explained!
It's those little things in the background that make it great !👍gg
great video lad
your videos are literally so perfect
isnt this what takumi learnt during the duct tape deathmatch
Bro that second of 'fortunate son' during the car turning into a helicopter was hilarious
The amount of editing in this video is too much for my brain to process so you know he probably sunk hours of effort into this. Thanks for the entertaining advice man!
No one gonna say something about the editing skills ? it's mental broo
I thought I was decreasing steering angle to prevent overrotation in the braking... but I didn't think about telling: "i'm rotating the car with the brake pedal"
then about the corner exit... when the car has such understeering problem under throttle I tend to modify the line a lot, it's like doing a fake doble apex (making a later apex) to reduce the time on the throttle as it's a bad rear to front balance, then when I feel in the moment to use the "leftover" track width... full throttle. In loooong corners it gets difficult so I tend to apply and lift throttle like you said but it's not what I (personally) would do, like it doesn't sound very ideal (which doesn't necessarily mean I'm right)
Would you be able to provide a power over distance graph that aligns with your distance traveled around the turn so we can see when you apply the most and least pressure? Providing us with stuff like this on turns of various cambers, grades, entry speeds, sharpnesses, and exit variations will really help us quantify exactly what your saying.
This is especially important for people like me who don't SIM race, but live in wet, hilly terrain that's full of deer and fallen trees, so we just want to know how to evasively maneuver around those obstacles if the time comes.
nice editing
The editing goes crazy
You know what, usually that "80% of people are not subscribed" thing is hella annoying. But you pulled it off in a classy way. There you go, you win, have a sub 😂
I actually started to do this when drifting and it has helped a lot. I'm glad to know that it's a real
Off topic but any of u have any tips on how to get used to left foot braking on fwd irl. I am very familiar with my car irl, I know how the weight shifts how it will oversteer or understeer , gear ratios but I wanna learn to left foor brake
I think one learns this naturally by trying to go faster around a track
but it's interesting to learn why that is working.
I'm a total rookie when it comes to cars and car physics but I always wondered,
why I can turn better, when I let go of the throttle or step on the brakes or drive slower ;-)
Great video
OMG DID YOU REALLY USE MAKOTO FEAT DEEZIM SOUND ??? 😨😨😨😨😨
Man of culture aswell !
the editing is on point wow
interesting to see trophy truck drivers use this almost constantly considering the truck is so heavy you gotta use the brakes to get the proper rotation
Are you first steering and then easing off the brakes or are you first slowly easing off the brake while you start turning? I have problems to understand or find the timing when what is to do
Finally, a visual guide to racing techniques!!!
Good content as allways! tho the Tik Tok editing will rot my brain 🤣
I still can't believe Eiger Nordwald is in AC.
whats the app called that shows your braking and throttle lines?
great videos by the way
You need to drop these tunes too. Dnb and racing has been life for years! 😂
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@@TSRB pls can you share that impreza mod?
bruh why the starting go so hard🔥
Me before clicking the video: wow, let's see some new techniques!
Me after the video: bruh this is Letterally what I do every day in gran turismo...
U need a awd for this, for asetto corsa, r34 skyline is best for this technique, lift off, quick steer to your apex, full throttle and straight steer in same time ✌️
9 times out of 10 I naturally use these techniques in real life when driving moutain pass roads. However in videogames I dont, so, I find these videos very entertaining and helpful
Can we appreciate how he doesn't interrupt the video to tell us to subscribe.
I've drifted a lap on Assetto Corsa all with throttle control (minus initial turn in). Mind blowing stuff.
Pretty much any good drifter is only using the wheel to make gentle suggestions to the car. You whisper to the wheel and yell at the pedals.
Can you send a link to that impreza? looks amazing :)
I have known about trail braking since I was a kid and have seen fast drivers use it in races
That's why Brazilian F1 Driver Ayrton Senna repeatedly brake & release through corners.
It's like spamming the brakes so that the weight & momentum allows him to turn more but your car might be jerking I guess
You gotta do a video on left foot braking
I've been doing all these things without even noticing ever since I got confident enough with a car. I used to drive lots on mountain roads late at night, wishing to come back home fast to go to sleep, and I think I learned implicitly to associate the feeling of weight transfer to steering. When I started to use driving sims it was so hard for me to get into it, because all of my experience relied on actually feeling the acceleration as the car swings around corners
PLEASE TELL ME THERES A DOWNLOAD FOR THE TRACK AT THE START OF THE VIDEO. It was my fav track of the older gran turismos. Its the swiss mountains one
this is actually how youre supposed to drive supercars n shit that has high hp, good video wish more ppl would talk ab this
I could swear im hearing the Windows 95 startup sound in that song.
another great vid!
Watching this for GTSport Colorado springs
You’re the Living proof that Drum n Bass can be used for everything. Getting metalheadz / Photek vibes
thanks, very cool 👍
i always trail brake on the sim but its not that much in real life (maybe I'm afraid of it) but i think i should try to practice it a bit more
I did it in the night in a country road I thought I was familiar with but i encountered a sudden curve. I did not do it because I wanted to experiment but because that was the only way to not lose control of my fwd and it went smoother than expected.
I could not believe myself but then I never did it again because I have not access to a track and in public roads I'd rather be respectful of other drivers than trying race techniques.
But I have a background learning to trail brake when practicing coming to a full stop as I let go the brakes gradually so the weight that is in the front wheels returns to the back as slow as possible. Once you do it for a year in the same car you will control the weight transfer perfectly even when emergency driving. I think it is safer to know how to do it than not knowing so don't hesitate to get a feel for your brakes and suspension behavior in a controlled safe emviorement with no one around. You also have the advantage over sim racing that you can still feel the different forces allowing you to receive more precise feedback than any kind of sim.
Was gonna talk sheet off rip but I like the music
honestly these kind of microcorrection require a really quick Reaction Time and a good feel of the car... which on a static chair and a screen wont give... you either gotta be an amazing driver or have experience on the track, really sending it
I notice in lots of aim racing videos never really mention how and why this happens . Keep in mind it's a whole new driving curve it's not the occasional leave the house type vehicle the huge difference is almost everything . Most don't use power steering , power brakes , and acceleration is completely different because of this factor , this is why driving like this happens. You get to experience the true feeling of the car . Yes all this would seem to be faster but in reality you'll be a lot slower because the weight difference is huge . Also the car shakes like crazy because of mounts to increase stiffness to entire motor .
Can recommend. Real life applications. Now i made that 360 turn towards the center island
i thought i was going to watch max verstappen driving with his feet and shifting with his toes
nice red universe effects lol
I'm on controller (waiting for a wheel) and I've been trying to learn these techniques but its just not clicking with me. First corner on akina with the stock 86 and I cant get the car to rotate, the wheels lock up and I understeer EVEN if I apply such little braking