Irohazaka Jump: Is It Actually Possible?!
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Is the iconic irohazaka from jump actually possible, or is it initial d’s biggest gimmick?
Now don’t worry if you’re having a bit of deja vu, you’re probably not going insane. Because this is a question that I’ve already tried and failed to answer on my channel before. Let me give you a quick recap..
I loaded up Assetto Corsa's Irohazaka Touge in the yellow mister2 and began descending the slope. I didn’t initially know which corner the jump was actually performed on, so I firstly needed to go on a recon run to scout out potential corners, and decide which i’d try it on. This was my first crucial mistake, and I’ll tell you why a little later. I actually found two corners which seemed suitable for the irohazaka jump, and I set off attempting it.
I spent hours attempting the irohazaka jump on these corners, and it wasn’t easy. I’d either not rotate the car enough to set myself up for the jump, and ended up going the hairpin as usual. Or, I’d rotate too much and hit the guardrail. And even if I got the setup right, once I landed, the car just bounced everywhere, and I even yeeted over the guardrail and fell into the assetto corsa netherworld. As a result of my failure, i abandoned the challenge.
A few weeks later, I knew I had to try this technique again, I had invested far too much time and effort on that video to abandon it *sunk cost fallacy*.
And after a small break, I felt refreshed. As a result, I finally made some headway on the irohazaka jump. I had finally sussed out the technique for lining the car up for the jump. I simply had to drift the previous hairpin and hold off the transition all the way until it was time to do the jump. And that point, I had to rip the handbrake and let weight transfer put in the work. And yes, I managed to successfully do the irohazaka jump.
No, just kidding. After hours of attempts over multiple months, I never managed to successfully do an irohazaka jump. My car was just bouncing all over the place upon landing. So, begrudgingly, I made a video, stating the irohazaka jump was in fact, a humongous gimmick, and it wasn’t actually possible.
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Physics fact: To get the MR2 to jump instead of slide it has to be dark blue
and you have to be blasting "crazy for love" at max volume
And time the eurobeat on the jump perfectly
And get that special camera angle
It has to be dark blue, and you got to drive a like kart driver (Go search a youtube video, someone had did it already in a real car, no shift at the entry but a rather low gear with high RPM turn). Of course, your car suspension needs to be set to accommodate such high jump (we are talking about a near 3-4 ft landing of jump) at the first two hair pin
Kai: (does irohazaka jump)
Takumi: (idea pops)
Kai: why do i see a flying trueno on my mirrors
Thats basically what happened frl, takumi jumps a 10 year old car without even cracking a foglight
THE WINGS
my god, i would have the same reaction if i saw a trueno flying, right after i took a flying lesson as well
@@justkady Actually I'd have more confidence in not doing damage to the 80's corolla than the 90's mr2. It has more ground clearance for one. So basically follow the leader, if the mr2 can do something insane the ae86 should be able to follow.
@@mizinoinovermyhead.7523 youre right actually, even though its practically insane to jump either car because the mr2 is hella imbalanced and the trueno has no abs, both are bad ideas
That pole that has no collisions is actually there in initial d, but it is in a slightly different spot allowing enough of a gap to jump between it and the guardrail.
So that leads me to believe that that pole is exactly there in real life but the animators just moved it for the jump
Due to people trying this in real life they extended guardrails and stuff in some places
source: trust me bro
Haha, those gas prices
I noticed it too good God that's hilarious
$100 bucks🗿
This is just me, but it would be a bit funnier if it were in Yen, because this is in Japan.
Le fish *french music*
Realistic
The gas prices slowly going up at 1:30 is so accurate its painful.
yea, truely
"slowly"
@@Armi1P Dumbledore said calmly.
gas inflation gone crazy
In Initial D the first jump with overtake was at the corner 33. However, after this one the mr2 jumped at few other corners as well as the 86. They might as well jump in the cornes you showed in the previous video, so technically you are not wrong.
Great videos non the less
i think the main issue people have with not being able to ""do it well"
is, ITS AN ANIME the jump it self is always exaggerated. i was a local legend in my own right. and the things people told me that i did was laughable.
but thats just how story goes. in all reality it probably was just him flopping down.
and dude probably did a lot of damage to his car and cut him off.
legend vs reality.
hell. tony hawks first competition 900 was extremely sloppy. and by todays standard wouldnt be worth landing like that for the point deductions.
@@dbspaceoditty true tho
@@dbspaceoditty Also the version of the road isn't exactly true to reality, so who knows what a real one looks like. Theres so many little differences and uncertainties that the only way to really tell is to crash a bunch of cars on a japanese mountain.
@@mizinoinovermyhead.7523 i feel like the dude that did that jump in the anime put a lot of work into his car
a lot of race cars have a plastic/steel bottom plate
i could see him having a skit plate on the bottom of his car.
@@dbspaceoditty it’s not the skid plate, it’s the travel of the suspension itself. Sport suspension is low travel and stiff. If you over load it, it hits the bump stop, and stresses the mounts. Hitting like this in a very low sports car would likely slam the struts through the hood of that car and tear the strut mounts.
kai's mr 2 had rally suspension and sway bars, Takumi's 86 also had rally suspension installed by Bunta when he was still a racer.
Oh so that's why they can confidently do the jump
"rally suspension"
Isnt it changed when he race nagazato
@@centurionmk.1365 No, Bunta change the settings on the 86’s suspension just for the race against the r32.
@@outlawtrent3371 Like thats even relevant... The entire engine has been swapped out between the r32 and mr2 races (actually 2 seasons are between them lol), and along with the engine everything has been changed in some way shape or form.
Not to mention by the time the mr2 race happens, project d is regularly tuning the 86 and changing its suspension settings for EVERY road they go to
MR2 has oversteer but that's it's biggest advantage, it specialises in low angle, high speed drift and intense weight transfers, with the differential turning the car while on and off throttle. You generally want to slide or lift the inside front tire, as there's less weight on the front. if you slide all four, then the rear should regain grip first. The mid engine layout of the MR2 allows you to place all of the weight of the car on the outside tires.
This makes sense as in my MR2 AW11a (1985) when i get to drift in rainy weather i always find it easier and more practical to have a low angle drift. I havent tried sending fully into a corner as i like my car and dont have any racing or drifting expirience and dont want to send it side first into a tree cause i spun out. My low power in general (140hp on the wheels) makes me really whip the car when trying to spin it around a corner.
@@axelthegamer2470 I wish I could own an AW11 IRL, all of my experience comes from games.
yeah the low angle of drift is because of the mid rear layout and wheelbase. I'm pretty sure the supercharged AW11s came with a stiffer rear antiroll bar, and The mid rear layout is terrible for spins, once you go 180 degrees it's very hard to stay on the original line. it's very hard to do 360 drifts unlike an FR layout like the AE86.
you'd probably want a limited slip differential if you're planning on attempting any sort of drifting or driving on the limit, though I'm not an expert and I'm not sure what would be compatible or how it would affect performance. if you push the outer rear tire a bit too far it won't keep sending power to the outer wheel unless the LSD compensates. I use 67% accel and 35% decel on Forza Horizon 5 for whatever it's worth.
Maybe check out the "OverRev!" manga, it's about an AW11 the same way Initial D is about an AE86.
all cars are faster sliding with little angle not just the mr2
Slip angle is a beautiful thing
@@axelthegamer2470 that's a dream car of mine. also a Transformer
OMG that gas station gag had me in tears.
EK Irohazaka is not the only one that exists. There are a few more mods. And also, MR2 oversteer can be fixed with the right tune.
What’s the tune?? The oversteer really upsets me as I drive one in real life and it’s not realistic
@@Scalene17 My guess would be changing the camber, or possibly softening the rear springs if its possible
"No matter how much you find a car sometimes you can't change its basic characteristics"
-ryosuke takahashi
@@jordanrobshaw1406 you can and the weight of the GTR is the reason why it's so fast.
@@AirborneJoban yes but it makes its tires wear down fast
That Irohazaka Jump makes me feel *CRAZY FOR LOVE*
I actually *EXPRESS LOVE* that jump
*DONT STAND SO CLOSE* to me when i do it
All I did for that jump is just *WHEELPOWER & GO*
*ALL THAT I WANT* is to do this correctly
I have my *CRAZY LITTLE LOVE* to support me doing the jump
Glorious, I know it is not possible, or atleast pretty difficult in other hairpins, in corner 33 it is a bit easier, but only a bit, we need a rally suspension MR2, to fully test it however, since the MR2 in INITIAL D (I speculate) had one, because of its owner backstory.
Even in a rally car, the suspension for tarmac is not setup like the suspension for dirt. It's possible they ran it, but given the height of the car, I am not keen on believing it was run on rally suspension.
@@rallywagon261 they may have lowered it because it was an average street car after
@@jordanrobshaw1406 that doesn't make anything better. A rally suspension alone isn't going to make that car handle a 5 foot drop with likely an off camber landing. If the suspension is lower, then it's not going to have the travel needed to absorb the energy when it lands. It's going to slam into the bump stops, if they have bump stops, and all of that energy is going right to the frame, not to mention the energy of the engine and trans smashing into its mounts. The MR2 would either have smashed out, or with rally suspension set up specifically to handle jumps, might have survived the jumps, but them would be so high and loose it would never have kept up as the body roll would have been to much. And, I think it also fair to point out the car also lacked a roll cage, which makes it highly likely it had no chassis stiffening going on, so even with rally suspension set up for jumps, you're only getting in a run or two before the chassis starts getting twisted.
Which brings us back to the 86. Street/sport suspension, no chassis stiffening, on a cheap street car. That car wouldn't have survive the first jump at all.
@@rallywagon261 true
I loved the video, but did you consider trying it out in BeamNG as well to see how the crash physics work like in the previous video? I do realize that doing that would probably take forever lol
this has to be one of you best videos yet! The editing was f-ing fantastic! I felt like i was watching movie! You are one of a kind TSRB!
1:13 yoooo I got featured in the video. Thank you TSRB and nice editing, the video is great. After the 33th corner there is 2 more corner right, so after the 2 corner there is more irohazaka jump.
I love how your videos are short, The only problem with ur videos. Is that theirs never enough content. Always wanting more videos from you cause they’re so great!
Been here for the past year or 2 now
Absolutely love the way you say 'MR2', haven't laughed this much in a while
I've been watching your vids for awhile now, i play touge life assetto corsa all the time, i love your style of video making, it looks like it takes alot of hard work, thanks for posting
Epic video as always. Keep making more bud, you're a shining light in the touge-tube community.
Glad I found your channel, love the editing
Love the editing style of this video, twas really good
i thought i was subbed, and then the sub button started glowing, thats cool asf. been watching for years, im prolly subbed on my other accounts
For one, I love this editing style. Great video all around. Also, could you include some kind of playlist or pastebin in the description with the music you use for your videos? The amount of DnB and music that sounds similar to Ridge Racer/soundtracks of that sort are amazing.
Those gas prices stonks was the best detail in the video😂
Epic editing & thematic direction
>the Mister 2
that is the fucking funniest line I have heard for ages mate, I'm gonna start refering to all MR2's by that name hahhaha.
Definitely subscribed.
The video of the guy throwing his g29 in the pool is actually my friend 😂
Kenta sent that in the TSRB discord server lol.
@@thelolrus7491 yep haha
And then we all made TSRB put it into a vid, best decision ever
this bringing me back to those days spending pennies doing time attack in this track on an Initial D arcade game
I literally saw the older video today. And the new upload made me question my existence.
If you do Irohazaka Jump IRL you'll at least have half-destroyed suspensions or bent rims😂
Or a huge dent on the front because you hit the lamp post or land badly
Great editing!!
after watching 15 of your videos i finally learned what game it is that you're playing
the lightpole is actually seen in the jump in the show, i think it exaggerated the hight of the jump (also didnt enclude the bushes being that high) but it was like less than 2 feet from the pole
Content inspiration, very enjoyable video.
Nice editing 😫
The gas price going up at the start lmaooo
This video, as an often Irohazaka player who always cries about not being able to jump the hairpins, sparked to me a new idea. A conclusive video could be made comparing the speed of the jump and driving through the corner using different techniques.
The Mister2 returns!
Just something to add, it's been used before in rally racing on a few occasions. As long as the height difference isn't to big it's possible. But it's only good as an overtaking maneuver as it loses time.
The amount of tires marks left in that turn!
epic narrative! Love it!
Nice video. BTW the Kai's MR2 was N/A model not the turbo model. Idk if that helps.
1:30 you earned your like with that
That shrine on the road is from the shinto religion which is native to Japan, believing that spirits exist everywhere from plants to mountains to humans and animals. Shinto can be literally translated as "Road of the gods".
0:20
0:23
1:30
Gas prices are rising quick
man that was a nice drift
Keep in mind that this is a game map and not the real thing. Actual racers that drive irohazaka have said that the edge is too narrow, basically there isn't room to finish the turn without running into the guardrail. That being said, the thing that likely inspired the jump (which is possible) involves running over the sloped median which can get a bit of airtime and shave off distance. It destroys your suspension and isn't very common but it's been done (according to local legend.)
0:20 Mister 2 🤣🤣🤣🤣
loooooooooooool at the gas prices good one lmfao i laughed so hard
5:02 Wow that nice drift i seen just like 1cm or 2cm in guardrail
i didnt even know that AC could look so good
Hey, is there a chance you can give us the link for the mr2? Thanks.
Not the gas pricing easter egg he put in 😂
What mod does he use to have that evo?
on the other videos
idk who many people noticed that gas price hike but that was fucking brilliant
3:24 JAZZ CARTEL - BLUE HAZE GOOD MUSIC CHOICE YESSSSSSSS
There are so many tire marks on the road you've practically burned out your tires to the rim.
Which version of AC is this?
wow i respect that
Honestly the only reason I wish I still had a PC is to play this game again. I played it once years ago and the mods were kinda blah back then, but it looks like there's so much more activity with it now so I really wish I could get back into it and rip it on the touge once more 😭
What about shinji's no braking technique is that acually doable?
Hairpin #8 is the best one to jump on by far, the guardrail is far back and there a wall that make a sharp drop giving you airtime. i actually did it on my first few tries in this video czcams.com/video/TvdUPObNKeo/video.html
4:02 GOD THAT HURTS
I'm glad you did it even with huge skill issue
just the time the car takes to line up and jump the other guy has already made the entire turn
5:37 R.I.P. bunta
Is this the map by Ek Tracks?
What mods do you have?
Could you please give us link to this track?
5:36 got me laughin.
0:20 I like how the gas prices go up lmao
damn in the anime mr2's rear wheell locked up (shift lock or handbrake mb)
The thumbnail brought me here.
1:30 lol. Fr tho
4:11 you know this guy is commited on successing cuz HOLY CRAP THATS A LOT OF SKID MARKS
Why are you using the second gen MR2 instead of the first gen? Is that just not in Assetto Corsa?
As a pole, I didn't know i don't have physics in AC
Never tried this course on a proper sim. only places i have was the initial D arcade games, and tokyo extreme racer drift. i always thought in more realistic circumstances the car would be a huge factor in success. like a super low car with a stiff suspension wouldnt work, but more rally like cars would have an easier time. especially 4wd where the front tires that make contact first would help stabilize the car, whereas in a rwd you would have to wait until the rear comes down to begin using the throttle.
0:20 XD ridiculous gas prices go brrrrrrr
1:31 WHY IS IT SO HIGH
5:00 KANSEI DORIFTO?!!
I thought this was BeamNG for a sec. I have both this car and map downloaded on it lol.
maybe try watching some initial d arcade stage gameplay of iro.
pretty sure the approach is different.
yours went like the anime.
in arcade, people treat it as shorten hairpin, so you jump(fall) mid drift.
Nice clip
Mister 2 on its home course
Technically its corner 13 if your counting by hairpins...
Nice video
I do it multiple time in some corners in hirohazaka
My dream car the Toyota mr2
It would be awesome if you could check out that touge game on roblox again i hear that they are adding performance tuning in a few months.
gas goes gas gas gas
0:09 I've just been in this place before....
The Gas price lol
Thanks you
ok so in we know that 33th corner can really do jumps on it...the one that i keen to know is what about 36th till 39th corner??? is it initiald's gimmick? correct me if im worng but we do know that some initial d statements are true tho, but there are less actual details where the 4 hairpins we can jump on it. (please exclude initial d's arcade physics, i mean the in AC game). Do provide me some details to this. thanks!
What mod did you use for the MR2?
mr 2 mod prob
@@Spritecar69420 most helpful youtube comment
You can use BeamNG to test out the damages the jump did to MISTER2, to conclude if it's viable irl.
I thought you will jump the WHOLE trip like people do in GTA games 😂🤣🤪
Bro u have to make a video tutorial for your graphics
You should check out Vegetable Studio. He recreated the whole race in AC but avex took it down because of the eurobeat. You can watch the reupload on his 2nd channel.
1:10 wonder who that awesome guys profile is....