I rubbed POISON IVY on my arm in WINTER, but I didn't expect this to happen!

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  • čas přidán 23. 02. 2024
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  • @FeralForaging
    @FeralForaging  Před 4 měsíci +12

    Read me! 🙏
    Remember, the results of the tests that I show in this video are not definitive! If you decide to interact with poison ivy, you do so at your own risk. Additionally, I would imagine that exterior parts like the roots or bark may be more dangerous at the very beginning of the vine’s dormancy (late fall/early winter) as oils from the leaves could be left behind on them, and they wouldn’t have had as much time to wash off with the weather.
    Leaning on the side of caution is important, but I do think people should also know that removing poison ivy is likely far safer around the end of winter than it is when its leaves are fully out.
    I hope you enjoyed the video!

    • @Daraluz
      @Daraluz Před 4 měsíci +4

      OMG YES YES YES.. I am SOOOOOO allergic to poison ivy!! One late winter, I was helping a work crew taking down trees to harvest for lumber and made the mistake of sitting down on one of the cut tree trunks.. had NO idea the dead-looking vines on it were and came home to find my entire butt and upper legs had thick welts! Had to go to a dermatologist for shots and medicine for it.. it was terrible..

    • @kingspal99
      @kingspal99 Před 2 měsíci

      that, sir, is a wollyvine

    • @kingspal99
      @kingspal99 Před 2 měsíci

      milkweed

    • @kingspal99
      @kingspal99 Před 2 měsíci

      if it goes into the bloodstream by scratching it will spread

  • @Whataboutseconddinner
    @Whataboutseconddinner Před 4 měsíci +12

    I have a rule and it works. Any time I deal with poison ivy, I always shower with unscented laundry detergent. You really need to scrub with a towel or loofa. I only get the areas that it may have touched (arms, legs, face). Urushiol takes hours to start reacting, so you have time to get the oil off of your skin. I never get rashes anymore, unless I somehow miss a spot.

    • @Kaleb.R
      @Kaleb.R Před 2 měsíci +3

      I shower with dawn dish soap whenever I come in contact with it myself. I even carry a travel size bottle when I work for a lawn care company in the summer to wash my hands and arms

  • @buzztoole4751
    @buzztoole4751 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Thankfully it has never bothered me. I am a grounds maintenance worker. I can pull it bare handed in the summer, attack it with the string trimmer, juicy leaves flying, no problem. Its a huge advantage for me.

    • @itsno1duh
      @itsno1duh Před měsícem +1

      I was like you and could hand pull for many years... Just once though a leafy branch off the vine stuck under my watchband , later that day I found it... over the evening I became more and more distressed and next day went to the Drs with hardly a rash even but I felt insane with the reaction, I was almost thrown out of the Drs office! sadly much like this account but w/o the smart Dr she had >>> Homeopathy for Poison Ivy: A Case in Point
      So Apis mellifica was the remedy! Go figure...

  • @jamesvatter5729
    @jamesvatter5729 Před 3 měsíci +4

    It has to depend upon the individual. I used to get poison ivy in the dead of winter when we had eight inches of snow. This happened more than once! The only common denominator was being downwind of the next door neighbor burning brush. The local MD said the oil can become airborne in the wood smoke. I guess I was just super sensitive.

  • @kevinquinlanphoto
    @kevinquinlanphoto Před 4 měsíci +10

    Post an update in a few days when it gets worse 😬. You are brave for doing this, but definitely thorough. I remove poision ivy from our yard all year long, winter is definitely the best time to do it .. wear long sleves and long pants. I always wear those nitrile dipped cheap gloves, and throw them out after each time....never reuse the gloves

  • @MsCindyh
    @MsCindyh Před 4 měsíci +12

    Yes! Also burning it in a camp fire can make your lungs very sick!

    • @theIAMofME
      @theIAMofME Před 4 měsíci +6

      Actually.. it can unalive some people.

  • @xerrias
    @xerrias Před 4 měsíci +15

    there are studies on both ends of urishiol exposure immunity. My beliefs, are that it just depends person to person on how their immune system innitially handles it. Same with some people and exposure to nuts, or latex. Some it does nothing or develops immunity, some it CAUSES an allergy/sensitivity to form.

    • @triipppzzz
      @triipppzzz Před 3 měsíci +2

      i personally got worse reactions once leading to my entire body stomach swelling and now it doesn’t affect me so might be both

  • @dylan-5287
    @dylan-5287 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I accidentally walked through a giant patch of it a few summers ago in shorts and didn't get anything. My buddy and me would go hiking and he'd wear long pants and still get crazy reactions, needed meds from the doctor multiple times. It seems so variable.

  • @xerrias
    @xerrias Před 4 měsíci +7

    the urishiol concentrationa are much lower in the vines in winter. Most people dont have a reaction to this, but highly reactive people or extra allergic people should still avoid it.
    And of course cutting it and touching it will be more concentration, and burning it is dangerous

  • @monareese5307
    @monareese5307 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Yes, it is very poisonous.We try to pull a big trunk out after it was dead and dried out before it got a chance to Bloom again.And we both broke out

  • @melissam0ss
    @melissam0ss Před 4 měsíci +3

    I once was overly sensitive (allergic?) but discovered a homeopathic remedy that I gave my horse to help with some issues actually cleared my sensitivity! Because I also took the homeopathic just because I gave it to him…it’s called “Nux Vomica” and it was in the form of super tiny tiny little beads that you put in your cheek or under the tongue. They melt away quickly so dosing to my horse was super easy and he never noticed it. Worth a try! It won’t hurt you in any way…homeopathy is very awesome if you don’t get hung up on all the hype. Apparently it has vibrational signature of the poison ivy plant…and some other vibrational things

  • @GypsyBrokenwings
    @GypsyBrokenwings Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thanks for the reminder to find some jewel weed soap.

  • @darleneniclow5331
    @darleneniclow5331 Před 3 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤👍learned so much about the plant ivy. Ty you so much on how we can concor the plant ivy on our propertys in the winter.

  • @lewisward4359
    @lewisward4359 Před 4 měsíci +3

    A friend tried the Euell Gibbons methods of ingesting small amounts of poison ivy daily basis after the buds break to develop immunity two years in a row.The first year (1973) it worked fine, but in 1974 he skipped a day or two and thence a small piece and he developed a serious case of poison ivy all over his body. He was taking baths in Jewelweed to ease the pain. Ugh Good luck!

  • @insanecow24
    @insanecow24 Před měsícem

    Funny you mentioned a psychosomatic reaction… I started getting all itchy halfway through this video. And it’s not going away. Thanks.

  • @stickerking
    @stickerking Před měsícem

    I would love to see your take on the plant Jewel Weed. The seed pods pop, the seeds taste like walnut, the leaves shimmer under water with a hydrophobic coating, and most importantly its a cure for poison ivy. You can use the plants juices directly or boil it down (i prefer boiling it in olive oil to extract.)

  • @TerressaZook
    @TerressaZook Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really thank you for this, very informative 🌱

  • @LittleJordanFarm
    @LittleJordanFarm Před 2 měsíci

    Yep i was afraid to do that..ouch. ive brushed by leaves many times and never got it but sure as i get the juice on me . On the good side i have jewelweed on my property. I scrub my hands with if i expect ive been exposed and i make a salve from it to share and use in winter. Your brave lol

  • @XiHyperon289
    @XiHyperon289 Před 3 měsíci

    Developed my worse case in January! Despite being knee-deep in snow and bundled up against the cold, I was still wary enough to know "dont touch your face if it's possible that you touched P.I."
    Who'd a thunk that MY SHOULDER would be the vector. Next morning required a trip to E.R. where they shot me up with steroids to reduce the swelling in my face. Missed out on over a week of school: No sleep=no focus=no work done.

  • @dcummings1476
    @dcummings1476 Před 4 měsíci +3

    YES! IT IS! Be careful!

  • @venidamcdaniel1913
    @venidamcdaniel1913 Před 4 měsíci +3

    lol. Good info. Sorry about the rash.

  • @maggiepfob
    @maggiepfob Před měsícem

    Yah, those roots! A couple of years ago I was weeding the berm outside our fence in late winter, pulling up creeping charlie by the roots. I didn't realize I was also yanking out poison ivy roots - until both my hands started to itch, and then swell up. The reaction got so bad I was afraid I was going to have to get my wedding ring cut off in order to get circulation back in my finger, but fortunately I was able to remove the ring with a lot of butter before my hands, ultimately, swelled up to the size of baseball mitts. What a miserable month that was! Now, I no longer do any weeding AT ALL before the poison ivy leaves appear in spring, so I can tell what I'm yanking out. (Also, I have put my wedding ring in the safe and wear a silicon one, now!)
    Hey, what are the chances you can do a video about the silly myth that the fluid inside the blisters of a poison ivy rash can also cause a reaction?

  • @cryptomg
    @cryptomg Před 4 měsíci

    If you shower within 8 hours you are usually safe. I have touched buds at the end of winter/early spring and became covered in rashes. But I am quite allergic to it

  • @batimusmaximus2743
    @batimusmaximus2743 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you SO MUCH for sacrificing your body for the good of humanity!!! It really helped clarify things for me. QUESTION: A friend of mine related that when he cut into a medium poison ivy vine with a lopper during the winter, the vine released a powder into the air that blew all over him and gave him the rash. Do you know anything about this? Thanks again.

  • @lesspaul2241
    @lesspaul2241 Před 17 dny

    Sasquatch behind you @4:18 left side of screen in woods over your right shoulder.

  • @user-po7iv4ni3o
    @user-po7iv4ni3o Před 4 měsíci +2

    I used to be moderately allergic to the stuff, but along with a lot of seasonal allergies I seem to have outgrown it. My main defense is a laser eye for ivy, but I've come into contact with it plenty of times and don't seem to get it anymore. Maybe I was always that way and just had more unintentional extended exposure as a young'n.

  • @Luxito_DeWarlock
    @Luxito_DeWarlock Před 2 měsíci +1

    In my area im constantly in contact with poison oak. When I was a kid i rubbed some all over me so bullies wouldn’t touch me anymore…
    To this day I still dont get any reactions to it

  • @KyleWidmyer
    @KyleWidmyer Před 4 měsíci +3

    Yes it it. I have first hand experience.

  • @aliannarodriguez1581
    @aliannarodriguez1581 Před 3 měsíci

    Only a few people have mentioned Tecnu. That stuff is amazing. It’s always better to use it before you break out, but it’s extremely effective even after you break out. I visit places that are choked in poison ivy, it’s literally everywhere, and have managed to avoid getting a reaction now for quite a few years.

    • @VictoriaG234
      @VictoriaG234 Před 3 měsíci

      Is this a medicinal/herbal remedy? We are highly allergic to poison ivy/oak/sumac. I've had an allergic reaction being upwind(without touching it). We have tried many things to help with the irritating skin reaction.

    • @aliannarodriguez1581
      @aliannarodriguez1581 Před měsícem

      @@VictoriaG234 No it’s an over the counter commercial product, you should be able to find it in the drug store.

  • @Shainagffsgggd-kw1hy
    @Shainagffsgggd-kw1hy Před 3 měsíci

    Fast forward to 4:12 and I swear you see a phantom like apparition walking in the background, look to the right of his head at the large tree, the person seems to walk right out of the tree itself and appears to be see through and wearing a flowing cape or dress. Interesting.

  • @mariabrown6890
    @mariabrown6890 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It travels your blood stream,won't always be at point of contact

  • @billymishoe8578
    @billymishoe8578 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I live in North Carolina and my yard is covered in it. I have to cut and pull all summer long. I don't wear gloves and- knock on wood, Have never broke out with it. But I do try to be half way careful with it and now I always rinse off right after with the garden hose. My mom can about walk by it and break-out but it has never bothered me. My cousin smoked some one time cause it got mixed in with some homegrown he bought. It made him pretty sick and he had to go to the doctor.

    • @TheAcenightcreeper
      @TheAcenightcreeper Před 3 měsíci

      I too live in NC and had forty acres of unkept woodlands…
      Instead of cutting and pulling, buy 2.5 gallons of garlon 4, get a hatchet or machete, cut the base of the vine and immedietly spray the triclopyr on the cut both ends. It will kill the roots and absorb up the vine and kill to the tip. It will eventually fall out of the tree it is in….and be much safer and easier to handle.

  • @marnettadavidsonwest6757
    @marnettadavidsonwest6757 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have been lucky seem i immune to poison ivy but I'm believe well some of my siblings are not they walk through the leaves t catch it but most I not sure how much I remember well it been awhile since I been around it possibly my sister's more cause my younger brother goes camping all the time but if vets poison ivy i ot sure
    Thanks for the information

  • @abundance_In_Motion
    @abundance_In_Motion Před 4 měsíci +3

    I ate a ton of mangoes over a week and broke out in ivy-like rash

    • @victoriabaker4400
      @victoriabaker4400 Před 4 měsíci

      The latex that comes out of the stem-end of mangoes can cause a latex-reaction. Same with figs, Virginia creeper, and any number of other plants that, when cut, emit a whitish, thickish liquid.

    • @FeralForaging
      @FeralForaging  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yes, this is definitely possible!

  • @vedahine2694
    @vedahine2694 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I’m 50 years old and I’ve never had a reaction from poison ivy. I’ve never made it a point to avoid it

  • @victoriabaker4400
    @victoriabaker4400 Před 4 měsíci +1

    If one is exposed to poison ivy or poison oak, the most important thing is to use the right type of soap to remove as much of the oils as possible, as quickly as possible. The urushiol is a difficult oil to remove, so not all soaps work. The traditional product that is used is called Tecnu, it's generally kept on the work trucks of people who work on utility lines, things like that. I always keep some in the house. I'm not sure how biodegradable Tecnu is, but there was a period of time in my life when I had to use it, even though I've been an "organic gal" forever. There are some handmade soaps that are claimed to work. Anyway, the idea is to lather, lather, lather, keep rubbing it to break down that oil, rinse rinse rinse, lather up again, at least twice, NOT IN A BATHTUB!!!. Take off clothes! It's on your clothes and shoes and socks. I feel so bad for this fellow, you can see it's creeping up his arm. Places where the rash rubs against other skin are very vulnerable, uncomfortable, and often spreads it further, even though the claim is that it's not spread that way. Everyone's system is different. The old folk remedy of getting in the shower and turning the hot water up as hot as you can stand it, then letting the hot water run on the rash as long as you can stand it, ACTUALLY WORKS to relieve the itching. At the very end, step back and turn off the hot water, then do a quick rinse with the cold water to snap the pores shut again. The reason it works is 1) You wear the nerve endings "out" so they stop sending you the itchy signal for a while; and 2) it washes off the fluids and crusties that, no matter what anyone says to the contrary, can spread the rash. For me the best type of treatment to apply is made by the same company as makes Tecnu, it's a clear gel that contains a numbing agent and helps to dry things out. Anything that adds material on, like calamine lotion, drives me insane with the need to get it off. ymmv. Also, for real, benadryl or another anti-allergy med is really called for. Steroids may need to be taken, very short term, but it can be that bad, easily. Especially if you get it on your face. There are supposed to be antidote plants that usually grow nearby that can be applied to neutralize the urushiol, but I've never been brave enough to find out.

    • @mirtillo7941
      @mirtillo7941 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Jewel weed, Impatiens capensis, sap will neutralize urushiol immediately and later on. It works so well that I steep broken stems and leaves in hot water, then pour the “broth” in ice cube molds and use one ice cube when needed (without having to look for a jewel weed plant)

    • @victoriabaker4400
      @victoriabaker4400 Před 4 měsíci

      @@mirtillo7941Thank you very much for this! That's a very smart way to make the remedy available. There is a yellow version, called Impatiens pallida, do you know if that is equally useful for this? I once had an herbalist tell me I could freeze ice cubes of an infusion, as you describe, to use with cineraria for eyes, he said that freezing keep it sterile so it's safe to use. Very interesting.

  • @DaimyoD0
    @DaimyoD0 Před 4 měsíci +1

    -have you confirmed if you have a reaction to poison ivy in general?- 3:30 nvm
    Don't you have to damage the plant to get urushiol out of it? 5:55 Yeah I was under the impression that you actually have to damage the plant tissues to get the oils out, unlike something like stinging nettle, which is evolved to essentially "envenomate" animals. Urushiol isn't an intentional defense against mammals (but probably an anti-microbial or "clotting agent," so to speak) AFAIK.
    7:26 Yeah this is about what I was expecting. Good to know it's still active in the winter, though.
    4:28 Currently I seem to have no sensitivity to it but I try very hard not to get exposed because I know it's sort of like, throwing away a gift lol. I feel like a cat with nine lives and I don't want to waste them on trivial, preventable exposures. 8:50 Interesting to hear that raised sensitivity after an exposure can decay over time, didn't know that actually.

  • @kingspal99
    @kingspal99 Před 2 měsíci

    that sir is a wollyvine

  • @Zombie_Spaceman
    @Zombie_Spaceman Před 4 měsíci +1

    I could roll in a patch of poison ivy and be fine, but am alergic to heat, lmao

  • @kalrandom7387
    @kalrandom7387 Před 4 měsíci

    You gotta get the sap on you to break out.
    As a dumb kid in rural area, after the movie Predator came out, I cut a vine and drank some of the sap, (DO NOT DO THIS) it was hard to swallow and I felt like crap for a few days, but for over 30 years I could walk thru the smoke burning it during summer without a reaction. Now that I'm older I do have a reaction more often. As far as removing it during the winter just make sure it's a cold day so the sap is not up at all and your relatively safe still wear gloves long sleeves Etc and once you're done put your clothes straight into the washing machine so you don't handle them more and you should be fine in my experience.
    If you're clearing it don't forget to get the roots are you just wasting your time

  • @captain_red_beard4202
    @captain_red_beard4202 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Plot twist. FeralForaging is not allergic. Jk! Good vid!

  • @theIAMofME
    @theIAMofME Před 4 měsíci

    I appreciate what you did. You're either really kind or stupid. LOL Just kidding. I am allergic. It is the worst intense itch EVER! Here are two things that might help someone. I never got it until I was 46 years old. I've been exposed many times because HEY, I live in the South. It's everywhere. They say round &up makes it spread even more and it doesn't kill it. Please don't use round &up. The two things I do when I KNOW I've been exposed or start to get the bumps....I immediately take two benedryl. Yeah, you're gonna take a nap. Also, put clear fingernail polish on the bumps before they get oozy. If you don't it will continue to spread. A safer option might be liquid skin. I don't like to take benedryl or use the polish but, it WORKS!! Dude, I can't believe you did that. But, thank you!! Hope you're over your poison ivy.

  • @clayjones553
    @clayjones553 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Youre crazy! I would be in big trouble if i did that. Im highly allergic

  • @alexburgdorf419
    @alexburgdorf419 Před 4 měsíci

    I blame "The Wild Thornberries" for the misinformation

  • @CyrusHarp
    @CyrusHarp Před 4 měsíci

    If you can’t gain immunity through exposure, then why did I get it a lot as a kid, less as a young adult, and now I’m totally immune? 4:33

    • @kevinquinlanphoto
      @kevinquinlanphoto Před 4 měsíci

      Because you run and climb through it more as a kid playing outside

    • @CyrusHarp
      @CyrusHarp Před 4 měsíci

      @@kevinquinlanphoto I definitely get exposed more now, as I know I am immune. As a kid, I tried to avoid it. I have an outdoor job, touch poison ivy daily, and haven’t got any detectable rash for 12 years. I’ve even tried mashing up the leaves and rubbing the juices on my arms.

  • @clayjones553
    @clayjones553 Před 4 měsíci

    Hot water is the best poison ivy treatment

  • @batzzz2044
    @batzzz2044 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Been waiting for this lmfao

  • @monareese5307
    @monareese5307 Před 3 měsíci

    Just stay away from it😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lordsams
    @lordsams Před 4 měsíci

    I rub poison ivy leaves on me no reaction what the heck

  • @Eddie-qx7cx
    @Eddie-qx7cx Před 4 měsíci

    Poison ivy and poison oak has never bothered me at all.

  • @MultiShaed
    @MultiShaed Před 4 měsíci +1

    I got a poison ivy rash when I was clearing privet. I didn't know there were any vines in the area till I saw it leafed out later in the year and then it clicked.

  • @barbarapesa-yocum7753
    @barbarapesa-yocum7753 Před 4 měsíci

    Goats eat poison ivy and drinking the Goats milk creates an immunity

  • @clintromine802
    @clintromine802 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Will you touch on jewel weed & how it’s supposed to be a natural treatment for poison ivy. And how to identify it.

  • @BosomBuddyCreations
    @BosomBuddyCreations Před 4 měsíci

    Just because you didnt have a reaction doesnt mean someone else wont have one. Everyone has a different reaction to poison ivy.

    • @FeralForaging
      @FeralForaging  Před 4 měsíci

      As discussed in the video, though I think seeing that I didn't react at all to the outer parts, but did to the inner tissue is greater evidence that there is very little urushiol on the outer portions if it's there at all later in the winter!

  • @kob8634
    @kob8634 Před 4 měsíci

    That's not poison ivy. Not what we call it anyway. Poison ivy is a low bush not an ivy vine (at least round here)

    • @victoriabaker4400
      @victoriabaker4400 Před 4 měsíci

      It grows in a lot of different forms and depends on your climate. In areas with really long cold winters, the vines don't form as much because the cold winter kills back the plants. In places with milder winters, it turns into heavy vines because the branches, which will become vines, aren't killed back completely.

    • @kob8634
      @kob8634 Před 4 měsíci

      @@victoriabaker4400 Last August, in the highlands of Mabou Cape Breton, I deliberately innoculated myself with poison ivy. I took a leaf, plucked off the tip, and touched the tiny blob of white latex to my skin. I did it twice with two leaves. For two weeks almost nothing happened other than there were two tiny black dots on my arm.. then the fun began.. I have pictures that you would NOT believe, my arm swelled to the size of a leg, it wept fluids everywhere, staf infections sprang up daily, and I spend SIX MONTHS on prednisone trying to get the reaction under control. The arm was a mess but my whole body was full of itching throughout every tissue. I had shingles when I was twenty, this was MUCH WORSE and if it wasn't for exceptional doses of prednisone it's possible I would have lost my life. It was during that time that I began researching poison ivy and came to realize just how lethal it can be. Btw, sheep eat this stuff (if you do you will die, I promise) and the birds eat the seeds and spread it around. Cape Breton is FULL of it now that they've let the forests grow back on the mountains -- back when there were lots of sheep and pasture it wasn't an issue, but there should be warnings everywhere on this stuff (and you should not ever deliberately innoculate youself with this shit -- one of the stupidest, eye opening, things I've ever done -- 62 man!, 62!)

    • @FeralForaging
      @FeralForaging  Před 4 měsíci

      People call it different things. The scientific name for the species shown in the video is Toxicodendron radicans (Eastern Poison Ivy)

    • @dkrplr
      @dkrplr Před 4 měsíci

      That sure looks like trumpet creeper, not poison ivy.

  • @empressphoenixrose
    @empressphoenixrose Před 4 měsíci

    It really depends on ones personal reaction level more than the time of year. I know this for fact. Thats why a video like this isn't good. People, know yr own reaction level and learn to id it. Do not burn it!

  • @kima3565
    @kima3565 Před 3 měsíci

    The first time your exposed to an allergy, nothing happens, reactions occur when the body develops antigens on subsequent exposures so not listening to your claim

  • @mariabrown6890
    @mariabrown6890 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Oh no eating it you will reach Nirvana like monks do