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Hey Dave, you can technically row across if you want to ;)
hello dude, You shut make a vídeo talking about hanse You never talk about them and makes me doubtfull about them and they're pretty beautiful boats :)
I’ve been building and repairing boats for more than forty years. Your suggestions here are good. The island packets, however are in a different class. Having looked behind the varnish so to speak, there is a level of quality to them that is comparable to most of the custom yachts that are priced hundreds of thousands more
Thanks for the Great info. Looking forward to learning more. Thank you 👍😁
Well done and good information!
Great video thanks
Fantastic video very well done :)
great video and I agree with your comments! I look forwaed to the next one
Thank you
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Great Stuff Mate 100%
Very nicely done :)
I like the way you think. Get in the water ASAP. Some of us that are starting have no clue. It's best to buy a boat ready to go.
Thank you, I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment
The only thing I would disagree with in your vid, is how great the Beneteaus are. I am far from an armchair sailor as well. While they might be ok sailing boats, and people are crossing oceans in them, this doesn't qualify them as true passage makers. I would say that it's most likely we will never experience a truly dangerous storm, but they happen, and a Beneteau is not the boat to be in if you do! The tradewind passages "can" be very safe, but they still can be plagued with large, uncomfortable seaways, and in the wrong time of year see typhoons (see any information on the Queens Birthday Storm, or the Fastnet Storm, these are the types of storms which any mariner attempting ocean passages should try to be as prepared as possible for, including the right boat!). Beneteau's have large flat areas incorporated into their hull designs which make them "pound" in a seaway, especially to windward. This makes for a very uncomfortable passage and a fatigued crew. Bill Crealock sites fatigue as the most dangerous detractor to safety! They are also all "spade rudder" builds, which I, and I venture to say most true voyagers would say is a huge no no! Spade rudders don't just shear off, the back end of a spade rudder is like a can opener and when struck by a container, a whale, or any large debris will cut the after stations of a thin glass hull, which Beneteaus are known for, open like a can, and this happens! I think it would have been helpful, or maybe your responsibility, to state something about these detriments to your viewers. Especially as this vid is oriented towards first time buyers with little or no experience with sailboats or voyaging, and to whom this vid might be very influential. They have the burden of doing their own research, you have the burden of giving them thorough information! Thanks! Peace
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I am a firm believer in the less time a crossing takes the better. With the improvements in weather forecasting and the proper captain and crew the passage will take far less time with a fin keel,. I’ve crossed on mine several times. I believe the reality is the need for a full keel heavy displacement days are the past. They do have advantages , they will come out better if grounded, are more comfortable in heavy seas but take far longer to cross and have zero chance out our running a weather system.. I will absolutely take into account your comment on this being geared towards more novice sailors and point out these things in greater deatail. I tried doing that in my most recent video and my next video is going to be going further in depth so I appreaciate the comment and the reminder to be aware that it is needed for me to go into greater detail
@@ChasingLatitudes Thanks for the reply! From my perspective you missed my point, which wasn’t at all about speed or safety, and no mono hull alive can out run a Storm moving at 30 knots! That’s not a pointing would try to impress on anyone. My point is about comfort and safety neither of which a Beneteau has. To me voyaging is not about your turn of speed it’s about comfort and safety, and while one doesn’t need a full keel boat, I feel one should have a rugged boat with lots of dead rise and a protected rudder. But to each their own. I’d like to hear more about your crossings and your boat, I’ll look deeper for some of your vids on it. Best
@@sunlovesailing I agree comfort on a crossing is top three, fatigue can be the most dangerous to safety . Speed impresses no one as you said however the less time a crossing takes the safer you are . No matter what type of cruising a person does the reality is that we all spend more time at anchor or on the dock than we do sailing. I currently have what you would consider a No No boat for crossings 😂 I have an oceanis 40 currently and have crossed the Atlantic on her several times. I’ve seen large storms build and had no issues staying ahead of them and getting out of the way especially hurricanes and tropical storms. I rode out hurricane Irma in the keys when it made landfall as a category four hurricane. Before the storm the mooring field had 150 boats , after the storm there were three left. I am a huge advocate that the captain and crew are what make the boat safe or not safe, I advocate less time at crossing as the risk of danger is less. A good compromise in my opinion would be a larger fin keel with a skeg hung rudder, you can still Heel if needed but will be fast enough to Hopefully avoid the need to. With the advancements in weather forecasting the chances now are so much less for getting caught in large storms. Everyone will get squalls and some storms but there is such a low chance now of getting caught in multiple large continuous storms that the days of heavy full keel boats are simply not needed
@@ChasingLatitudes Agreed, the faster time one can make in a crossing the better. And while I don’t strictly adhere to the need to have a full keeled boat (I had one, it was painfully slow) they are still the safest boat to cross an ocean in. They will heave to better than any other configuration and heaving to is sailing 101 to me. It’s the safest way a boat can lay in a storm and gives the crew and boat a rest. That said, we’re sailing a Crealock 37, a long keel boat with a very large skeg, and the prop protected in an aperture. She’s a cutter rigged yawl with a tiller, my fave configuration! They have a good turn of speed and are very comfortable. Not as fast as your Oceanis that’s for sure! Hey man I’d love an Oceanis for cruising the islands, lots of room, fast, and fun, but the fact is no one out runs a Hurricane in a monohull, the person either goes the other way from the predictions... and gets lucky, or the hurricane goes the other way. And you are correct, weather forecasting has gotten very good, but it’s still fallible and the weather is very unpredictable these days as well. For me, it’s a strongly built, comfortable, known passage maker with a protected rudder. My best friend was in The Queens Birthday Storm. He taught me years ago how to fit out a voyaging boat from that perspective. I know there are other ways, but why wouldn’t I choose the absolute most safe comfortable boat I could get, fit her out as best I could, and have the confidence that she will take care of me and my crew, even if my skippering wavers. I know peeps are doing this in boats like yours, and more power to them/ you.. you’re out there doing it and that’s what counts!! But personally I would never advocate a boat with flatter hull stations, a spade rudder for serious ocean voyaging. Keep up the good work dude!! This is still Sun Love Sailing by the way, I just posted from my other channel. Peace
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Yes! a similar video for catamarans (yes, they'll be more expensive) would be GREATLY appreciated! TY!
You got it!
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Damn, I love your videos. Very valuable content.
Ahh thanks
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Good choices and #5 should be #5 _ Nice surprise to see the prices _ So i get the idea when refitted one could be "good enough" to go for about $65K usd _ I am in the gathering info stage 102 _ There are quite a few good ones out there that are not the well known names _ Just to name one is the Cape Dory _ Maybe like a tier two quality? _ I've come to the conclusion, subject to change upon new information, that when i am ready to buy i won't have one or two in mind, but instead i'll see what's out there, then check out the specs, etc on sailboat data - this is the over-simplified version, of coarse there is a lot to it as knowledge, knowing what to look for, all adds into the mix of making an informed decision _ IF at all possible i want to buy where i don't get high taxes added on too _ Anyways thnx for the vg video - from a thumbs-up subber :>)
My first trip from the Caribbean to Bermuda was crewing on an Island Packet 40. We were hit with 70 kt winds and 25' seas. No problem. The captain had upgraded from a brand new "Bendy-toy" 45 that suffered catastrophic structural failures crossing the Gulf Stream in 40 kt winds and 15' seas. The main bulkhead delaminated from the hull, the rug went slack and the hull could be seen to visibly twist as easy following sea crossed under the boat. No one in a storm ever said "I was so smart to save money and buy a cheap boat.".
Capt. Blackheart Charlie
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I would suggest you look at hull design before anything, think full keel, then budget for a full survey before putting your hand in your pocket further
Hallberg-Rassy, Island Packet and Hans Christian are my top 3 (Not necessarily in that order) ... The Tartan was really not on my radar until this video ... Thanks! 👍🏻👊🏻✌🏻
Thank you
My impression of pictures/design space on the HalBerg-Rassy is that this boat designer didn't like cooking, had his meals made for him, and didn't like using the 'Head', because both are very small and designed poorly- but maybe that's just me. What do you think?
(Yes, I couldn't understand my friend when he mentioned the H-R name either- guess I wasn't a knowing-sailor back then.!) -
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I am doing some research on boating and craft that will be a main work horse for the Caribbean (US territories). I have been researching the Beneteau's to Prout cats to steel hulls. I'm taking my time, as there are more boats in the world than there are sailors. So no rush right now. But this video added a few more names i can look up. Thnax.
That’s amazing , I am in the Caribbean and I have a beneteau. If your goals are sailing here and exploring the 7000 islands my suggestion would be a shallow draft beneteau, jenneau or Bavaria. Any of these can be had for less than 100k depending on size/year and if budget is lower you can pick up early 90s versions for around 30k
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Blue water sailboat vs production sailboat
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Great information for me. For would be a good comparable catamaran for an entry level blue water boat?
Can you do a video on the Heavenly Twins 27 catamaran and other small similar catamarans?
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In my opinion the bayfields are one of the Best Buy’s for blue water cruising, I have two 32c bayfields. Wonderful boats
Nice boat, how long have you had it?
@@ChasingLatitudes 3 yrs, she’s almost done on a major refit. Ground up restoration. In cars terms lol. She had great bones just cosmetic & electronics really, & everything in between.
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Honestly, i would love to find a dana 24 with a few more feet on it for a dedicated shower, and a bit more storage.
A year and half ago I purchased an Ericson 41 for $10,000. Beautiful inside and out.
So far I've put in about $5000. I think I'll need about $15 to $20,000 more to make her a cruiser.
My refrigeration compressor just went out ($900+shipping) damn. I do need a larger anchor and an autopilot. Other than a haul out.
Oh I need a new depth gauge and new sheets, then I'm out of here. So, really on the cheap I could out of here for, $7000. That's food too. I'm paying $500 a month for a slip here in the PNW.
That’s amazing 😉, slips are cheap in the PNW , I’m in the Caribbean now but when I was in key west my boat slip was 1400 😳😳 I was like this is rediculous ...
What are your sailing plans ? Heading south or ??
@@ChasingLatitudes
Well right now here in the PNW, it's a Sales er market. I sold my Albin Vega 3 months ago, $3500. No one had the money, so down down went my price. 2 slip fee's for a year. That hurt. Anyways. Next year I want to buy a Formosa 41. Or something ketch like in the mid 50 foot range, Formosa 51 would be great. Don't get me wrong. This Ericson 41 is nice. Just not the boat I want.
@@clutelmm how’s the PNW treating you ? I grew up in Oregon and used to sail the Columbia 😁
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Remember…. nothing on earth is more expensive than ‘a cheap boat’ 🙃
beginner offshore cruisers would be nice
Friend of mine ,years ago, had a 23 foot that crossed Atlantic 7 times. It was glass with twin keels, fiberglass and I believe it was Dutch built but that might only be because she was Dutch. Anyone have any idea?
I'm just some random guy who's been trying to figure out what I want. But I will say, that Kretshmer, Goodlander, as well as the Perry's (when he was alive), all have promoted center cockpit, full keel, canoe style ketches for maximum safety and comfort at sea. For island hopping and sitting in the harbor 90% of the time, sure, something low draft and beamy is best.
You would need to understand why Kretschmer and the others previously said that. If you talk to John today that’s no longer the case, people keep holding on to this dinosaur thinking from an article back in 1986
I’ll try to find the interview for you if possible, it’s from I believe last year. Kretschmer explains that back then that was the case however now with all the advances in weather tracking and sailboats the need for that style narrow canoe is no longer needed. People seem to think they are going to turn into Shackleton and explore the world or something . Crossing the Atlantic occasionally or the pacific is different than a complete circumnavigation. All these people talking about blue water boats won’t even cross and the percentage of people who will circumnavigate is incredibly low but they think they need to purchase a boat to discover the new world or something
the designers of canoe sterns did it as a lark and almost immediately changed the design as they realised it was rubbish.
@@superformOG canoe sterns are literally the silliest sailboat design ever to exist.
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lol I’ve looked at the 30-40K Tartans and they need complete refits. There’s a huge difference between looking at these online and what they turn out to be in person.
I don’t think anyone looking at a budget blue water sailboat would expect it to be ready to go as is at the absolute entry level price point ? That’s why they are budget boats , they will get you started and on the water for an entry level price but that by no means says it’s ready for a five year circumnavigation lol. Tartans in the 40k range can sometimes be close, close as in they will get you south down to the Caribbean and then you can kind of choose what you think from there. Lots of people think they need a so called blue water boat when they don’t . Thanks for the comments as I couldn’t agree more
Many people who search for a big bluewater sailboat dream of only 2-3 cruising areas. Instead of refitting a big old bluewater boat, if you buy a cheaper smaller newer boat where you want to sail it you may save a LOT of money. If you want to sail the med, buy a boat in the med, use it and resell. Saves the W-E atlantic hairy passage. If you want to sail the bay of islands in new zealand for a season, search in that area. Buy something simple that you can resell. Much cheaper. You will get to know those remote interesting places. Go small, go now. So true.
@@jgoitializarralde6935 couldn’t agree more, this rediculous idea of buying some old, full keel, slow, and heavy displacement sailboat. With the hopes to refit for your dreams of circumnavigation will 99% of the time result in a giant waste of time. Most sailors never cross and even less of the ones that do cross will cross once and do exactly what you said . They find an area they like and sail that area. I am in the Caribbean, we have 7000 islands and thousands of miles to explore. No reason for me to leave here for anything other than a circumnavigation
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@@jgoitializarralde6935 thanks for your sharing
HR for me when i strike lotto millions. HR 48. And else Island Packet. How are the Hylas boats? I like there loojs and interiors, hylas 46.
I'm curious what you think of diy cruising yachts. 2 designers I'm somewhat familiar with are Bruce Roberts (Emerald Steel) and George Buhler (Salt and Tar).
Bruce Roberts is a stud
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What about boats coming out of charter? Are they a good buy? Can you find a reputable surveyor in the islands to help prevent buying a dog? I appreciate your thoughts and agree the Catalina 42 you are paying for the name vs getting more value and I owned one for 12 years!
What do you think about Degero 35 s model?
What about Irwin 37....any opinions on capability?
Among them which ones you can you sail alone? which ones can you do soloing?
So I 30 and not 35ft seams to be the recommended minimum of boat size for ocean crossing? Thanks (I'm a total newbie)
What is your opinion about saddler 25 as second hand they can be £5500 I know they won't be the best of boats and won't easily cross oceans but they can and have done and for the price are OK for getting into yachting. I am hoping to live in a boat at some point and am thinking about saddler 25 as my first boat. What do you think?
I’m puzzled by the prices stated in this video. I’ve been searching for blue water boat’s 37 - 40’ for 8 months or so on Yacht World and other sites and haven’t seen anything even close to these prices. That includes the brands featured. The IPs in the 37-40 range are well over $100k and forget about the HRs and Amels which are $200k plus boats. I’d love to get a Tartan but $80-100k seems to be the going rate for one in decent shape. BTW, I’ve been searching for boats of 1984 through 1997 vintage setting $65k as my limit while holding $20k in reserve for the refits and equipment refreshes that I know will be necessary. Boats with bolted on keels, deck stepped masts, exposed rudders and other undesirable features are in reach but not true blue water boats. Maybe the boats being featured are indeed in Europe somewhere but not on the US East Coast.
Why is it so expensive in the US ?
I just watched a video from you, and these are the boats that you hate the most. In this video, you’re actually encouraging the purchase of these types of boats “” Bluewater, you are presently the person you’re going to grow to hate lol.
Would you go back though your logs and give me your average noon to noon daily run on all your Beneteau's ocean passages. Plus the number of daily runs over 200 miles. Our 43 ft vessel's average with no engine use, no weather imfo, no light weather sails on 3 Atlantic crossings is 149 a day. Is that considered safe. 🤔⛵🌍⛵🌎 Phil
Boats are so much cheaper over there than they are in Australia. For example, the closest Beneteau to what you were looking at is $89k.
Yikes
Then, there is a good market in Australia for those boats.
With a couple of emails - the sea-transport cost + customs duty + legal formalities can be figure it out ...
Every single boat you mentioned for the price advertised would need 50% of that price again to get it ready for blue water cruising..
That’s what happens when you buy a cheap boat 😏
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Got caught in a storm off lands end UK in a first 41.When we eventually got into port there wasn't a dry berth on the boat, and two bulkhead mounted mirrors were smashed to bits. What does that tell you?
That tells me that the beneteau first is not for crossings 🙃 you can do the occasional crossings on an oceanis but the firsts are more for speed than crossing
48h forecasts nowadays are fairly accurate. Biscay crossing from N Spain?
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Watching refits with older Hallberg-Rassay boats, I've see many blister repair. Is this the case with older Amel yachts?
Depends on what model and how the boat has been cared for.
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Hall berg Ramsey is one of the few builders who have actually improved in quality instead of the other way around. Frankly, beware of anything pre-1990
Bought a Contest 30 last August for 5k euros and I'm planning to cross an Ocean with her. What you guys think about it?
Depends on what ocean 😉 nothing surprises me when it comes to crossings . You could tell me you were going to row across the Atlantic and I would just ask you to send me pictures 🤣 storage might be an issue but depends on the actual plan. I’ve seen less cross oceans so depends on the boat and the work done to get her ready
Not sure where you're abouts. Atlantic E-W no problem properly sorted. W-E I wouldn't do it. But you may want to see the W to E crossing of Jambo on YTB
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Good boat no worries well build.
@@jgoitializarralde6935 whats wrong with w-e
I buy boats all over and rent them. I currently have 13 boats fully rented at an average rate of $750/month. My shortest lease is 6 months and currently on a 7 month waiting list. Its a buyers market so dont be afraid to lowball offer on any boat. There is no such thing as insulting an owner and if a broker tells you that...then get a new broker!!
100% it’s amazing what deal you can get in a boat if you just offer
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$750/month? what kind of boat rents for that little, a berth queen? That's cheaper than an apartment.
I’m assuming somewhere very inexpensive maybe Wisconsin or something ? My slip rent alone in key west was 1350
@@ChasingLatitudes right, somewhere in Wis. on the hard, 100 miles from any lake, lol. Electric is extra..
What are the cheapest new Bluewater sailboats ?
Almost any boat can cross the ocean with a good captain and fair weather.
And enough rum
No Najad ? Also swedish (made in the same place as Hallberg-Rassy) and very high quality blue water sailboat
Those are fantastic boats just not normally budget friendly
@@nonyayet1379 you should also checkout Baltic (from Finland , like Nautor Swan) . Nowadays they only make super yachts , but they used to build anything up from 33 ft . These were always high quality light and high performance (like Swan) bluewater cruisers that were also used for regatta racing . Especially worth mentionning are the ones designed by Doug Peterson (famous designer look him up in Wiki) : 38 DP ,42 DP , 48 DP and 55 DP . These boats are quite a bit faster than your typical Hallberg-Rassy or Najad .
sailboatdata.com/sailboat?filter%5Bname%5D=baltic&paginate=25&units=imperial&sort=name
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Are catalinas any good?
Yep they are, the 22 its a bit small in therms of comfort but is tough and can manage blue waters absolutely but hard to live in it for months
Wife and I are looking for a nice live on sail boat. We want to launch out of texas an work our way to Florida. The keys. Bahamas an down to Belize. Love to hear ur advice. We have $100,000 to spend on a ship.
What are you currently leaning towards? That’s more than enough of a budget. That was my budget to do very similar sailing as I just left the keys in July and I’m currently in Puerto Rico
@@ChasingLatitudes thank you for the reply. Really appreciate ur time. I like what I see in a 50ft or bigger beneteau. I grew up in seattle sailing a 35 sloop every summer. My skills are rusty but recoverable.
@@ChasingLatitudes I like the Catalinas also. Def looking for a turn key boat not interested in an rehabilitation boat. Our time frame to train an launch is end of next summer.
I have a 2008 oceanis 40 two cabin owners version. I love beneteau. The only thing I would recommend thinking very very hard about is this. Once you go above 40 the cost for everything dramatically increases. Slips will be allot more at 50, anchors, sails and general maintenance is going to be tens of thousands more at 50 vs 40. The size is great but a 40 beneteau is huge. If set on bigger than 40 I’d honestly recommend a 46 and avoid the 50 due to ongoing costs. Give me a couple min and let me check the entry price on a 50 currently
So as I suspected, entry is around 160k for the 50. You could get a 40 and stay under budget, use the extra cash to upgrade🙃 just my initial thoughts
Any thoughts on a Bristol 40 for ocean crossing?
Depends on the ocean 🤔 Atlantic, pacific, Indian? Vessel details?
@@ChasingLatitudes sorry it was just a general question. My goal is to circumnavigate. I've seen a lot of stuff saying to get like a 50-52 catamaran instead, would you agree with that or would something like a Bristol 40 be able to make the journey
I would do a mono over a cat for mtiple reasons, one of the biggest being running cost
@@ChasingLatitudes and would a 40ft be safe/large enough to handle circumnavigation?
Yes
Cant even get near these prices in Australia
Yeah, can't in the states either any more
The costs are high for these boats!
It can be a little expensive getting into sailing, there are definitely ways to find deals as long as you are patient
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Are these hurricane worthy?
Usually its someone else boat you have to worry about in hurricanes, their boat drifting into yours, the idea is to avoid hurricanes and simply move out of the way. The average hurricane only moves around 10 to 15 pmh and you have plenty of time to simply sail to a different island or area
So are you are saying it's a buyer's market?
In the United States NO ,outside the states yes
@@ChasingLatitudes I think you missed the British sarcasm there
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Honestly nothing below 30k isn't called budget. Maybe mid-range but budget is under 15 or even under 10k. And yes there are boats in this price range that can cross the Atlantic, it won't be of great comfort but it will do. Even a numble Dufour arpège can be had for 6 to 10k and will do it. Otherwise if the title was for mid-range boats its good content.
Can you spell out your 3rd boat. I couldn't understand it... Thank you
Halberg rassy
Amel
Island packet
Tartan
Beneteau
Sorry I have some speech problems and have pronunciation issues sometimes
@@ChasingLatitudes there's a website bluewaterboats.org, do you agree on their lists on capable bluewater boats?
@@Pulaco.Dimantag hey sorry took me so long to reply for some reason I never see these comments till much later. That’s an interesting list they put together, they can all make the crossings depending on the amount of time and effort into a refit . Some on the list I would personally not go on, not because they can’t but they would be miserable. When it comes to crossings for me I am more about comfort and safety, a 27 foot boat does not make me feel safe when I see 50 knots and waves of 30 feet. When spending weeks at sea for crossings it’s hard work and you can make it far more enjoyable by getting a more comfortable boat . This of course depends on what your personal priorities are for crossing , how many crossings you’re actually going to do and how often. I’m always open to discussion so feel free to ask as many questions as often as you like. My patron has a chat member section so I’m usually after there but I’ll answer any questions here always as well
@@ChasingLatitudes Thanks a lot for the reply... I hope you would make a video on bluewater sailboats under 40' that is comfortable and safe, also maybe on keel types and it's pros and cons.. i like your channel a lot.. it's very educational and we learn something.. thanks
@@ChasingLatitudes No Problem... Thanks
Hey what do people need to look out for when buying a boat from the 70's or 80's? That's pretty old.
A newer boat
@@ChasingLatitudes hahaha yeah totally. But a lot of the prices you were quoting for entry were from really old boats. Can you actually cross oceans in those? Sorry, I have zero sailing experience and have wanted to sail around the world my whole life and am pretty limited in finances.
@@njp101 No worries, I would suggest looking at Captian Q here on CZcams, he searches high and low for great deals, he can give you some direction on older boats that are ocean going and budget friendly. The boats he usually looks at are a bit older than even the ones I listed in these videos. It comes down to more the captain than the boat itself. Obviously a sea worth vessel is needed but making one capable to cross oceans is not that difficult if you start with the correct boat. Here is one he found for 39k, and he has found others far even half of that :) Check him out and let me know what you think czcams.com/video/JDqwZ392qg8/video.html
@@ChasingLatitudes Awesome man! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time and effort!
@@njp101 No worries that's what I am here for, I like helping people in your exact scenario, save ya money and help ya figure out how to get on the water:) sooner than later
If you’re a financial minded blue water sailor, you keep it under 30’.
way not westerly ?
There are some great Westerlys out there that could easily(and do) sail offshore.
@@linesledaft westerlys are great, if I remember correctly there is one currently crossing in the 2020 arc
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A buyer's market? What?
Literally any where outside the states it’s a buyers market , expand a little bit there buddy , branch out some.
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100k subs or you can have me gold tooth!
I’m sorry too tell you but these boats are a bit over my budget of $4,000
I paid 3k for my bluewater capable boat
That’s amazing, what did you get ?
And please don’t try and tell me or use sailing UMA is your reference cause that’s just laughable. That boat was no where near blue water ready when purchased and they have since gone through about 4 different engines
@@ChasingLatitudes its a southern cross 28. needs work of course
@@laxmannate07 how you like it so far?
@@laxmannate07 Dang, that's basically a tent with a keel. I know people do it- even smaller, but I can't imagine crossing an ocean on something that small. You really have to be a minimalist.
Beneteaus are cheap for a reason.
Because they are a production boat 😏
@@ChasingLatitudes there is a reason they are so cheap in the second hand market. Because they aren't so well built and therefore serious sailors don't want them.
@@zalacainbilbao I find this comment funny, more beneteau cross the Atlantic every year than any other boat , not an opinion just a fact. Look at the boats crossing currently in the 2020 arc , they are all beneteau or jenneau , couple of lagging and a handful of others. Facebook sailors and arm chair sailors put them down but more of them are cruising so
@@ChasingLatitudes You know nothing about me yet are happy to provide an opinion about me, that's a reflection of your ignorance.
Many Beneteaus cross the Atlantic, because there are many of them built and because it's a relatively easy trip. Not so many Beneteaus can be found going round Cape Horn or sailing in the far North.
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