A Brand New Hardtail from Stanton - The Stanton Sherpa Ti + Bikepacking Machine
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2022
- The Stanton Sherpa Ti + is Stanton's latest creation. Featuring clearance for 29x3.0 tires, it's a VERY unique and exciting hardtail. As you know, I love the stanton sherpa, and now being able to fit big tires on this new sherpa ti + is exciting. Today we take a first look video to measure geometry, highlight features, and see what it's all about.
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Spiffy frame, cool build. It is impressive that your channel has progressed to the point where a conversation with an international industry benchmark, leads to an experiMENTAL TITANIUM frame unannounced at your front door. Congratulations! I can't wait to see how it rides and I love the geo meter, thanks for the effort once again.
You know what I love about titanium it's a bike for life!
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Ti is a frame for life. Wish my 1996 Merlin XLM had tabs for disc brakes so I could up grade it.
well done! you rocked the bike and the discussion thereof! thanks for sharing!
Can't wait for your bikepacking vids!
Beautiful bike and looking forward to the test ride. Thx for the content. 👍.......Loving the tan walls on this bike, its almost as nice as my Stanton Switch9er 4130 😉😉
I really liking my Sherpa as it's just so fun & supple. I remember asking Stanton about this when I was getting my frame at end of last year & a steel might eventually come if there is enough interest for it. Would have been cool if the regular steel Sherpa came with rear rack mounts.
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Could you do a video on your favorite bikes for a budget like under $2000. I just really enjoy the way you explain things
No, that's the type of thing i save for my bike consultation service.
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That's such a beautiful frame! I never post till you break out a gorgeous Ti frame! Wow! Short reach, longer rear end. I'll tune in to the review.
Great build!
I completely agree, that Geo is seems perfect for bike-packing. I can’t wait to hear about your riding impressions. I have those Teravail Coronado tires and know they are super plush
That's a beautiful frame. I appreciate that you spec parts for reliability and quality, and not just weight.
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Beautiful frame and great components! I can see an enhancement in the video quality. Keep up the good work!
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I am REALLY liking how this frame is looking thus far !!
Love those tan walls also !
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Another great reveal and first look Steve!!! Can’t wait to see you on a bike packing trip with it!!! I hope when you have time you get experimental with it, set up single speed, change the head angle on it extend the reach and see what happens!!! 👍👍👍
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Heads up good deals with thier Black Friday sale and the low exchange rate if you are considering Stantons. I wish they still had the steel Sherpa...
Looking forward for your first ride video. You're so right, on a bike packing mountainbike a modern long geometry is not ideal. Greetings from Germany
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Awesome bike. Looks purrdy with the skinwalls. 👍👍
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Wtb Silverado saddle is awesome on all my bikes
Nice frame 160mm cranks wow
After riding a bunch of single speed I started having knee problems caused by hip immobility a really good PT got me lined out. IT band, calf muscle nerve pain and neuropathy down the lower part of my leg. Clean MRI but a ton of pain. Took about 3-4 months 2-3 PT workouts per week to get it all lined out and now I’m back to 100%. I took on getting my feet strong as well since clipped shoes sort of take foot mobility because they are stiff like you want. Now I’m full on zero drop shoes, with flexible soles except when riding. My balance is better too, way better. Ankles aren’t so week(use to get a bad roll every couple years).
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Awesome..
You mention the Stanton Ti bar, however it is no longer on their website. I've considered looking at the Roosts, mostly for looks (it would look dope with gun metal bits on my Paradox...vanity!!!) as I do not have any hand/arm issues and in fact ride Raceface Atlas 35 bars w/o issues.
So cool of them to send you this!!! WOW that geo is a surprise for sure. Had you been riding the 4130 Sherpa instead of the 853 lately?
I totally agree, this was completely inexpected. I'm stoked to see more models available from stanton. Choices are always a good thing. This one was still built up from the 4130 vs 853 vid. I didn't have the energy to swap all the parts back over to the 853
@@hardtailparty Haha I don't blame you!
I'm loving my Sherpa. It's fun to ride fast and slow.
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Love that you cant hide your excitement for this frame and build...you look like a kid on Xmas who got exactly what he was wishing for😅😅😅
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I’ve been struggling to find a comfortable saddle for longer climbs. I’ve tried Giant, Ergon, Fabric, Specialized, and fitzik, with the Specialized taking my vote. Is the WTB Silverado a good balance of comfort and durability?
Looking fwd to 5DEV's 34T chainring coming out this week.
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That reach sounds perfect for me. I need this asap lol
They're available to purchase on the website.
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Great first insight. Always a good watch.
My question is.. Is the hanger not ment to be the part that breaks to protect other components, hence alloy normally..That Ti won't bend or snap, it will mangle something more expensive!, or drag fixings from the frame..Or am I wrong..
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Great looking bike and helpful video. Do have any episodes that talk about the gear you use for hardtail bikepacking?
Yes. See my bikepacking playlist
@@hardtailparty D'oh. How did I miss this? Rock on and have a great bike packing trip with yer buddy
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I've been wanting to do the whole AZ trail myself, minus the grand canyon since that is carry your bike.
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more of a Thorn Sherpa guy myself ;)
Wait till you try a Stanton Sherpa.
Handsome bike. Tan walls finally grew on me. They're like dress shoes but with jeans.
I love ti + tanwalls. They look so good on this frame.
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You are really being taken seriously if you just get something like this unannounced. Congrats!
Thanks. Some companies see the value in me reviewing their bikes. Others don't. Stain gets it (and it doesn't hurt that they make rad bikes)
Stanton's site says it's a 69* hta at sag. They posed the info last week based on the email I got(I get emails from at least 6 brands you reviewed cause all these bikes are soo cool) about it. I wonder who else will follow this route.
👋 hi
What are you thoughts on using a Sherpa or Sherpa + as a gravel bike, with drop bars and 700 wheels?
This just could be my dream bike.. especially if they decide to do it in steel. Wonder how it would be with 27.5+ though??
27.5+ doesn't currently fit in the dropouts.
Is the oval ring what we used to call biopacing rings?
No
Those bosses at the top of the seat stays are for mounting a traditional pannier rack.
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What fork would you recommend for my 2022 rockhopper? Straight steerer tube & QR
I run a 100mm Recon on my 2018. Seems to work well, although not particularly light it seems plenty stiff.
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I've been riding for 20+ years and was an early adopter of 29ers. I've owned 40+ bikes and have to say I am not impressed with the 'new geo' bikes for rides longer than a couple hours or rides with more flat terrain. I have a Yeti Arc and a SB140 and feel like these steep seat angles simply pitch you too far forward when riding on flat terrain. I think the pendulum has swung too far, like you said. When I saw these geo numbers of this new Stanton I got excited. Sounds like this will be a great all day bike.
My bikepacking bike of choice right now is a Salsa Fargo. I'm 5'8" and upsized to a medium Salsa Fargo Ti because I wanted a more traditional geo set (69HT with 100mm fork sagged/73ST) and with the reach where it's at I can run drop bars with 60mm stem or flat bars with 80mm stem. Have you ridden a Fargo in either drop mode or flat bar? It's got clearance for 29x3.0, all the mounts, can be run belt drive, single speed, rohloff, etc. Very versatile.
I thought the fargo was 69* unsagged.
This is why I spend so much time in my bike consultation service getting to know the rider and what their trails are like. The needs of a bike for flat gravel terrain are completely different than the needs in the Rockies at 10,000 feet on steep rocky singletrack. This is another reason why I don't post "top 5" lists of the best hardtails. It totally depends on how they'll be ridden. Here on Hardtail party we primarily focus on mountain biking more than flatter smooth riding, though a some of my viewers do that too.
@@mellissanash7517 69* with the rigid fork as it's sold and 69* with a 100mm fork sagged 25%.
Reach 415mm? Sherpa quoted 432.4 for their 19" size on a 505mm A2C fork; & 646.2mm Stack.
Maybe the fork you used affected the Reach measurement; or is there something else?
Interesting offering from Sherpa; well done for the video Steve!
Keep me in mind I measure at static and Stanton measures at sag. Reach grows at sag.
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Except for the head angle this geo is very similar to my 2021 Medium surly karate monkey
Do you need a fork if you are using such tires? I tried 27,5+ tires on a fully and sometimes I felt like the bike would be better without any suspension.
It depends on your terrain. This could certainly be built up with a rigid fork (and would be a great option for some locales)
fpeter01 I tend to agree re 27+ tires and suspension forks .. I think it confuses the suspension ,there is a plush ness from the tire volume..I had my Nordest Sardinha with an air fork ,but it is so much better as rigid setup ..just my two cents worth!!
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I can't wait to hear how it rides beyond the raw numbers, British people know their Hardtails 😅
I'm also curious to see how Dan will achieve those retro fit sliding dropouts
They'll bolt on. All their rear ends have a 3 bolt mounting dropout. Pretty slick.
@@hardtailparty nice 👌
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Great looking bike! But what about your Maniak? Does that then just become your trail bike vs. do it all?
My goal is to review every hardtail on the planet, not necessarily to find a "winner" or "one bike to rule then all."
@@hardtailparty great goal to have. My question referred to your personal stable....so the Sherpa + eventually goes back to Stanton?
@Mark McGrath I have over 20+ hardtail frames right now. It's always a revolving door.
@@hardtailparty Do you have a dedicated "frame room" or did it require a storage "Pod?"
@@MMcG25 I'm running out of space, that's for sure. It sounds like a great problem to have, but it's starting to become a burden.
What's the biggest chainring that fits on this frame?
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WOW!
sliding drop outs later on?
does that mean my gen 3 sherpa can be fitted with a 3.00 tier on the rear??
No, but it means it can be set up ss one day. The gen 3 Sherpa fits a 2.6 max
@@hardtailparty oh,thanks steve,am realy running a reakon 2.6 ,thinking of moving to dhr..
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Hey, u need to check out maxxis rekon+ 29x2.8. Massive and light!
Reckons don't work great where I live, but I love them in the loam. I think the ikon + would be a better fit for the desert.
@@hardtailparty so dissector and ikon? 😀
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What do you think of Cervelo's new XC bike? As a Torontonian, I'm excited as we now have Cervelo and RSD making hardtails!
I haven't seen one in person yet
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Prefer my gen 3 Sherpa ti but interested about ti swapouts also single speed conversion 👍👍
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Hey Steve the New Updated Marin San Quentin 2022 just got released on Marine"s website , Worth a look ;)
They've been in contact with me about it. Hopefully I get to throw a leg over one soon.
@@hardtailparty cool , they've made some nice geo updates , That 334mm seat tube length looks gooood 😅
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I must admit, I'm a little sad that we won't be seeing the Maniak built up 29+ and bagged up for bikepacking
We still will. The Maniak isn't going anywhere.
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Stanton just posted details on their website Learn more here: bit.ly/3yfj7NI
Strange that they wouldn't just give it a completely new model name with it being so different.
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Ha! First comment!
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