Trouble is, Bad-Enoch and Priti Nasty are not better, and by all accounts Mordaunt is rather lazy. They've gone well past scraping the bottom of the barrel: we're into JCB works beneath the barrel now.
@@marksandsmith6778 they are both as bad as eachother and have had a monopoly on this government for 140 years. Conservative and Labour need removing and replacing with someone else. At this point it shouldn't matter who as long as they prevent labour and Conservative getting back seats and allow new party's to gain movement promoting choice and building back trust in the system
Labour dose have to understand that just because they have the up and coming big win, it dose not mean that they have the public's respect. We just needed the torres out
@user-op8fg3ny3j sadly Labour still wins its 1st past the post and when they do they will still think they have the mandate of the people 😕 no its rigid and the only true way out of this cycle is too over throw the MP's and start over
CORRECTION: We'd just like to take the time to apologise for an error we have spotted in the video. At 3:00, we state in the narration that Mordaunt has a satisfaction rating of 42%. On screen, however, she is shown to have a satisfaction rating of 45%. An error was made in the animation of the video, and the poll on screen at the time is from November 2023 - not the one we reference in the narration from April this year. Again, we'd just like to apologise for this error, and we'll try to minimise such errors moving forwards.
The assumption here that Mordaunt will keep her seat is stunning. Portsmouth North is a bellwether seat and usually goes with the government. Assuming Mordaunt stands there, and doesn’t do a chicken run to a safer seat, it’s almost akin to saying Portillo would be a great candidate for the Tory leadership in 97, before he went and lost his seat.
First thing I thought too. They haven't looked at the polling data. But to be honest this channel often releases videos with huge statements that can be refuted by the most cursory bit of research.
@@corpclarke TLDR really do sun up their channel name quite often, in the sense that the news they read was in a long article and therefore they didn’t read all of it 😂
@@GarfaGarfGarf the MP for Havant, Alan Mak, is highly likely to stand based on the fact he said that Labour ‘has already given up on the seat’ so I doubt that he feels threatened enough to give up on his seat and he’s also only 40 so unlikely to retire based on age.
Im not a tory fan but we have never elected a prime minister in the UK. Thats up to the party and we elect the MP for our constituency. But yes we do need an election.
I think she will win it again, just a gut feeling. I think the Tories will lose the election as a whole, but I don't think it will be very devastating. I think she will keep her Portsmouth North seat
Not if they make the party utterly unelectable, as seems likely with that set of woeful options. Not a shred of ability between them, perhaps almost as importantly, no charisma either (because let's face, that was enough for Johnson). This lot are individually and collectively fundamentally unlikeable.
@@tonyb9735 agreed. they'll be so riven by internal division for at least the next parliament that it's irrelevent, the Lib Dems will probably be acting more coherently as an official opposition (assuming the SNP get wiped out)
The issue isn't Tory v Labour, the issue is the national debt. We are getting rid of the Tories because we are sick and tired of their lies, sleeze and corruption. We are sick of how they treat us on a daily basis while thinking they are better than us. We are not however, voting for a Labour government based on brilliant polices and plans. And that is going to be a problem come 2026 or so.
The old debt bollox !!! we are more in debt ,than since just after the 2nd world war ,when we introduced the NHS , Social housing , the benefits systems , nuclear weapons development , world leading Jet aircraft development etc etc etc. WE ARE A VERY RICH COUNTRY , we can afford anything. Japan spends 200% GDP , it works , it functions , G8 government economics are not like home finances , stop comparing as such
@@nopants3560 Good luck r.e. the next few years if you honestly believe this. Regarding us being a ‘rich country’, you take London out of the UK, we are poorer than the state of Mississippi (the poorest US state).
Debt isnt really an issue, yet, yes it can cost too much if it gets out of control but its fine as long as you take debt on while making smart investments that boost GDP, which the government doesn't do nearly enough of atm.
I might be harsh but... if the Tories are about to face their biggest defeat ever in less than 6 months, then it doesn't matter much who's gonna be the next Tory leader, does it? In fact, I'd like to see less Tory-related content and more Labour ones since I still have no idea what this country and my daily life will look like when Labour takes over?! Please share relevant content!!!
@@jeffdingle9677 like we need another blairite in office that is what starmer is he praces tony blair even though starmer say "he is nothing like tony blair" but he is borrowing what tony blair did back in the day.
I used to be a Tory member...I now couldnt dislike them more. I woule say though that I really hope Penny doesnt run this time, shes a good politician, and I dont want to see a rare good tory ruined as a scapegoat when the tories lose.
This is the sort of videos TLDR generally makes. They don't shy from dabbling into using clickbait titles. I guess I don't complain because atleast they still give some information regardless
For impartiality/clarity could you start with “Following polling data, it’s becoming clearer and clearer that the conservatives will lose the general election”. Or something to that effect, it draws the direct data source and highlights that this isn’t a statement of fact from TLDR but, rather drawn from data following a trend. Small but, very important distinction. Cheers from a long term viewer/supporter :)
This really isn't TLDR's strength. Happens in a lot of videos. I often don't think they consider data at all. If they had they'd know Mordaunt is likely to lose her seat.
They're TL;DR by name TL;DR by nature 😀😀 But seriously short videos are terse and for clicks not serious analysis. Given that Tory MPs have opened the succession battle before the election is called it is becoming clearer and clearer they'll lose. No sensible ideas, just delusions and scandal. Their own bad behaviour makes for self fulfilling prophecy, pretending otherwise is pure right wing hopium, just like the oxymoronic Brexit benefits they lied about for years and are suffering the consequences having kicked out almost all conscientious MPs, leaving them detached from reality.
@@corpclarke She may be likely to lose her current seat, she might not be likely to lose the seat she campaigns for. That's two potentially different seats. If the Tories are looking for potential replacements, they might want to put them in safe seats in order to guarantee that they stay in the party.
@@user-uf4rx5ih3v There are barely any safe Tory seats available, and the safer the seat the less likely the incumbent is to give it up. Plenty of MP's are resigning , opening up dozens of seats, but few of them are winnable.
Who cares who leads the Conservative Party. I don't think there is any way back after the inevitable defeat in November. Why would anyone bother standing to be the leader? They only stay in charge until the other MP's vote them out.
I don't get to vote in the conservative leadership elections, but from an outsiders perspective I find the rankings pretty clear: A chicken > Penny M > Rishi Sunack> Kemi B > a lettuce > Liz Truss > Suella Braverman As such my vote in the general election might have to go to the MRLP as they are the party with the best PM candidate in the list.
From a purely objective political entertainment point of view it is going to be interesting to see how many MPs the Conservatives have left after the election and their place on the political spectrum. If they end up with sub 100 MPs as one poll has suggested, there could be a situation where there are only centrist, or only right leaning MPs left. It could change the whole feel of the party. And will the remaining MPs align with the views of their membership, donors, their councillors and other party elements. What's left of the party could fall apart.
@@mightymizzar9672If that pic is you, you look too young to understand any of this, back to playing with your action figures sonny, cos you clearly know nothing of what you speak.
I wish this was a little more analytical. Didn't mention that Penny Mordaunt is in a former Labour seat and probably won't be in Parliament after the election. If so the more centrist Tories will back another candidate, no mentioned. Additionally the reminding Tories are likely to be in rural, moderate, safe seats meaning the more right wing, Brexit, red wall conservatives will be gone. Just feel like this could have gone a little deeper.
Agreed. Mentioning the MRP polling (as outlined on, for example, ElectoralCalculus) against each of these candidates’ seats would have provided another perspective.
As a Brit, it's also weird for me to hear the sexually and ethnically diverse front bench promote misogyny and xenophobia. Although David Cameron set up processes to diversify the cabinet, it seems the selection criteria still requires the holding of rabid views. I suspect that they are willingly being used by less diverse colleagues to smuggle in more extreme policies than might otherwise be possible.
@@nathanaelsmith3553 Honestly it make sense. Your average old white male conservative fart probably still feels that they have to control what they say so they don't get labelled as racist, sexist, etc. but minorities in top party positions can much more easily push an extreme party line while more easily dodging such criticisms. I honestly think this is the direction a lot of Conservative parties in the West are going, using minority members as their mouthpiece to deflect more obvious criticism against the party. It's perfect in a way, you can enact blatantly discriminatory policies and then if people criticize the party for it, the party can just gaslight the opposition by saying they're actually the ones doing the discrimination.
Right? You can be pro marriage, benefits, name change etc. But if you point out the obvious innate advantage on sports, you're a monster apparently. It's extremely unfair to the athletes.
I'm guessing the choice for the Tories is between 'saving seats from being lost to Labour' and 'saving seats from being lost to Reform'? It's quite obvious if there's a change in leadership, given polling, they're there to save the furniture at the next election. I'm guessing that many Tory MPs may feel that Reform is more of an existential threat to the party, so may be inclined to support a more right-leaning leader to mitigate the losses. I could, of course, be wrong.
Doesn't mean a thing if Penny, Suella or Badenoch don't win their seats. If the leadership contentest is after the election and not triggered before hand by bickering MPs the tory party landscape will look vastly different. With current polling and majorities being over turned of 25k+ being favourites amoung Conservatives means very little if you aren't viewed favorably in your constituency.
Isn't it the party membership (in the Tories at least), not the UK electorate that votes for the Prime Minister (by virtue of voting for the leader of the party which wins Government)?
Why did the thumbnail have a picture of David Cameron? It's not a big deal on its own but its just one more example of the increased amount of clickbait across TLDR and it really puts me off and makes me doubt your integrity as a news channel. If you would lie about the content of the video to pull in views, why should I trust you to deliver unbiased news when sensationalism is more profitable?
I get why some MPs might want to try. "With someone else, I might be able to keep my seat.". But, who would want to replace him? Even if someone had a plan that they thought would turn things around, do they think they'd be able to get it passed and implemented to make a difference by the end of the year? Most likely not. Which leads us to ask: Does anyone really want to carry the mantle of being in charge when the Conservative party lost their biggest election ever?
To be honest the fact that these are the three individuals left to replace Sunak, just says it all. No wonder Sunak has not received a confidence vote...
A real Conservative would be a start, and for all you Socialists don't think for one minute it would be any better with Labour. Their open border policy would mean millions more immigrants and much higher taxes to fund them.
@@mightymizzar9672 How is that gonna help? "Wow, that conservative party has moved more to the right over the last decade and also wrecked the country with its policies. We should elect that even righter party, where all the people, who promoted the previous policies, which turned out to be based on lies and stupidity, defected to. That will help the country!" 😂
One thing you haven't really mentioned is the vulnerability of Mordaunt's seat. Badenoch and Braverman in NW Essex and Fareham & Waterlooville respectively are not going anywhere at the next election, but Mordaunt in Portsmouth North very much could. Her being taken out in her seat would mean her faction of the party would probably have to find someone else, potentially someone that isn't well known
Recent polls with Braverman put her with a small majority in her constituency old boundaries and a loss on the new boundaries, depending on campaigning she too is quite at risk
How so. She's undoubtedly better than Sunak, Truss, and loads of others. As far as they all go, Badenoch is the best of a bad bunch. I don't know why she'd want it though. Poisoned chalice.
If the tories do genuinely get decimated it will signal that the public are sick of the current crop. Don't rule out a complete outsider being their next leader by virtue of their lack of association with recent governments.
One of the strange ironies of these candidates is that the party most famous for being perceived as racist and sexist, is also the party without a single white male as serious contender for head of the party.
Guess what. women can be sexist, and minorities can be prejudiced against other minorities. But it's a great political tactic. Want to kick a refugee? The daughter of immigrants is the best person for the job. I recognise the mentality in my own family. My dad believed he should have been the very last immigrant allowed into the UK. Pulling up the drawbridge.
Nobody directly votes for the UK PM unless you are a voter within their constituency. Moreover, there is no constitutional requirement for the PM to even be an MP. It is just the custom of the currently dominant parties. This is how a parliamentary system works. We don't have a presidential system.
Both Boris Johnson and Teresa May won elections, so it’s just been Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak who haven’t won a general election (but yeah as others said, no PM is directly elected).
@@johnburn8031neither do Americans. They also vote for local representatives, then majority gets presidency. The USA election style isnt too far off from britian's.
It's kind of the most irrelevant question in British politics right now, with the absolute devastation that they're about to suffer. May as well be asking what particular colour the next Monster Raving Loony Party's leader's hat inner lining should be.
The right wing would most likely gladly choose Moordaunt over either Badenoch or Bravermann, let’s not forget that they’re the right wing for a reason 😂
I'm sorry but I think there serious rethink about faction labels - someone who advocated for No Deal Brexit, wanted to make Andrea Leadsome chancellor and ended up backing Liz Truss for leader can't really be described as a "moderate"
The MRP polls aren't predicting what the seat count will be in the next general election. They were predicting what the seat counts would be if there was a GE on the day of the poll. It doesn't extrapolate to account for possible changing sentiments between then and the date of the GE.
Ok, step one to becoming leader of the tories, “1. Become popular with other tories.” This is f-ing gold, keep it coming, I’ll be the king of England in no time…
Dont matter who they put in charge their incompetence over the years has sealed their fate none of them are worth voting for same with labour but they will probably win and run the country further into the ground
I will never understand how the Conservatives came up with the idea of appointing an Indian as their leader when the main motivation for Brexit and support for the party was based on racism and rejection of the non-UK indigenous population. He was inappropriate from the start.
@@meantares India supported Mandela against his fight against Apartheid and recently added AU to G20 during it's presidency in 2023. Do you have any example of India being racist towards Asians, Blacks or Hispanic people ??
It's hardly controversial that the British Empire was a force for good. The BE was not the first empire in basically any of the regions it occupied, and most had known atrocities and exploitation by previous regimes...however, only the BE left a legacy of anti-slavery, an evil that had plagued mankind since pre-history. In its short time the BE ended the slave trade, spread the industrial revolution that gave us prosperity beyond what anyone thought possible, spread the scientific principle that elevated humanity to the tech level it enjoys now, spread medical advances that have saved billions of lives, spread modern agricultural tech that has resulted in more people dying of obesity than famine (something that was unheard of in all history before the 20th century), prevented Napoleon from conquoring Europe and defeated the Nazis. All in all, they had a positive legacy. Lets not forget that if the UK had taken the land it likely would have been taken by another, as empire was the order of the day. Its not as if it would have remained independent, either a local/regional empire would have taken the land, or another European one would have...and look at their legacy. Most had to be forced by the UK to abandon slavery.
@@struanpeat5116 thing is, he has a point 😂 it's not like there were perfect borders and equality before the british showed up. They either left the situation better or the same after they left.
I think Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Party will ended up like what happened to Kim Campbell and her Party (Progressive Conservative) in the 1993 Canadian federal election winning only 2 seats...
Imagine being the Tory party and thinking Braverman is the answer to your existential crisis.
If they weren't already in such a situation, Cruella would lead them into one
@@_jpg haha "Cruella" very funny! 😊😊
Trouble is, Bad-Enoch and Priti Nasty are not better, and by all accounts Mordaunt is rather lazy. They've gone well past scraping the bottom of the barrel: we're into JCB works beneath the barrel now.
She's the best option they have, tbh
Lmao
A cabbage
almost..Liz Truss
Overqualified to lead the conservative party.
@@alaskanmalamute101 From my study in politics, a cabbage lasts much longer than a lettuce. i.e. a few days versus a week or so.
I’d eat a cabbage….
@@cabinessenceking😂
Tories truly deserve Zero seats.
Nope, let them keep one or two, that's more embarrassing 😄
So do Labour.. Neither party deserve power. Simply because Labour have sat and allowed everything to go through.
@@srjwari they were in opposition so blame John Bull
@@marksandsmith6778 they are both as bad as eachother and have had a monopoly on this government for 140 years.
Conservative and Labour need removing and replacing with someone else. At this point it shouldn't matter who as long as they prevent labour and Conservative getting back seats and allow new party's to gain movement promoting choice and building back trust in the system
@@srjwarilabour didn't even exist 140 years ago .what are you even on about
They forgot to poll the most important member of the cabinet! The Chief Mouser, Larry
The only member of government with a 100% satisfaction rating
I thought he was a civil servant?
@@WSmith1984 For now. Larry for PM!
+1 for Larry
@@philallen7626He’s more deserving than any politician, that’s for sure
Labour dose have to understand that just because they have the up and coming big win, it dose not mean that they have the public's respect. We just needed the torres out
Alright little miss illiterate.
Vote independent/third party
And then what? 🇺🇸 love to know.
Vote libdem or Green then
@user-op8fg3ny3j sadly Labour still wins its 1st past the post and when they do they will still think they have the mandate of the people 😕 no its rigid and the only true way out of this cycle is too over throw the MP's and start over
Simply replacing the Party Leader won't help the Conservatives. It's a collective problem with the party, not just Rishi Sunak.
They need to get rid of those crazy far right libertarians
CORRECTION: We'd just like to take the time to apologise for an error we have spotted in the video. At 3:00, we state in the narration that Mordaunt has a satisfaction rating of 42%. On screen, however, she is shown to have a satisfaction rating of 45%. An error was made in the animation of the video, and the poll on screen at the time is from November 2023 - not the one we reference in the narration from April this year. Again, we'd just like to apologise for this error, and we'll try to minimise such errors moving forwards.
Who could replace Sunak? Is that lettuce still hanging around?
Think so
I ate it, sorry guys
Yes, she is…
@@TheBonsaiGarden Liz Truss isn't the lettuce herself bro...
A cabbage would be a lot closer to the mark in describing Truss.
The assumption here that Mordaunt will keep her seat is stunning. Portsmouth North is a bellwether seat and usually goes with the government. Assuming Mordaunt stands there, and doesn’t do a chicken run to a safer seat, it’s almost akin to saying Portillo would be a great candidate for the Tory leadership in 97, before he went and lost his seat.
First thing I thought too. They haven't looked at the polling data. But to be honest this channel often releases videos with huge statements that can be refuted by the most cursory bit of research.
The Havant constituentcy near Portsmouth North is disgustingly pro Tory so she'd probably rock up there.
@@corpclarke TLDR really do sun up their channel name quite often, in the sense that the news they read was in a long article and therefore they didn’t read all of it 😂
@@GarfaGarfGarf the MP for Havant, Alan Mak, is highly likely to stand based on the fact he said that Labour ‘has already given up on the seat’ so I doubt that he feels threatened enough to give up on his seat and he’s also only 40 so unlikely to retire based on age.
She might as well sell that PM for PM domain now.
It’s ridiculous that Tories will give the UK a 3rd unelected prime minister in a row, just call a general election NOW.
I don’t think Sunak will resign before the election.
You don't elect prime ministers
We don't vote for a prime minister. We vote for our MP.
Im not a tory fan but we have never elected a prime minister in the UK. Thats up to the party and we elect the MP for our constituency. But yes we do need an election.
Pm aren’t elected
0:14 Neither of those polls suggest more seats for Labour than in 1997. But the April one does suggest less seats for the Tories than in 1997.
Mordaunt has to retain her seat first and foremost. That's far from guaranteed.
I think she will win it again, just a gut feeling. I think the Tories will lose the election as a whole, but I don't think it will be very devastating. I think she will keep her Portsmouth North seat
Same with Braverman
@danielbanbury378 Imagine if all three lose their seats.
Imagine if Sunak does too...
Mordaunt will lose her seat
Kier Starmer is the next Conservative prime minister
The realest comment here
his manifesto is doing absolutely nothing
I don't think a conservative would have served in Corbyns shadow cabinet 😂
To some people anything right wing of total communism is "conservative".
@@herbivorethecarnivore8447 Yup the centre has been abandoned
Who ever wins, we lose.
Not if they make the party utterly unelectable, as seems likely with that set of woeful options. Not a shred of ability between them, perhaps almost as importantly, no charisma either (because let's face, that was enough for Johnson). This lot are individually and collectively fundamentally unlikeable.
@@tonyb9735 agreed. they'll be so riven by internal division for at least the next parliament that it's irrelevent, the Lib Dems will probably be acting more coherently as an official opposition (assuming the SNP get wiped out)
that cactus on the top shelve is on the absolute edge. You should named it Rishi
The issue isn't Tory v Labour, the issue is the national debt.
We are getting rid of the Tories because we are sick and tired of their lies, sleeze and corruption. We are sick of how they treat us on a daily basis while thinking they are better than us.
We are not however, voting for a Labour government based on brilliant polices and plans. And that is going to be a problem come 2026 or so.
True, we dont want labour either, they are rotten, spoilt and corrupt. Keir starmors a trojan horse, you can tell because murdoch ‘likes’ him.
The old debt bollox !!! we are more in debt ,than since just after the 2nd world war ,when we introduced the NHS , Social housing , the benefits systems , nuclear weapons development , world leading Jet aircraft development etc etc etc. WE ARE A VERY RICH COUNTRY , we can afford anything. Japan spends 200% GDP , it works , it functions , G8 government economics are not like home finances , stop comparing as such
@@nopants3560 Good luck r.e. the next few years if you honestly believe this.
Regarding us being a ‘rich country’, you take London out of the UK, we are poorer than the state of Mississippi (the poorest US state).
@@wattbenj Ok, but that doesn't uh mean much. British people have a vastly superior quality of life to the average person residing in Mississippi.
Debt isnt really an issue, yet, yes it can cost too much if it gets out of control but its fine as long as you take debt on while making smart investments that boost GDP, which the government doesn't do nearly enough of atm.
Braverman should get it because she's so terrible that she deserves to be the leader who oversaw the downfall of the Tories.
maybe a local Cab driver perhaps a clerk?
Badenoch might be respected as a minister but can anyone see the Tory MEMBERSHIP (not parliament) voting a black woman into party leader position?
An actual head of lettuce as leader would be too good for that rotten party.
Look at the leadership pool of Tories, hopeless.
Not so much a pool as a shallow muddy puddle.
Quite honestly whoever replaces him it won’t
Make the slightest difference , there is so much corruption going on
The Rwandan Ambassador?
I might be harsh but... if the Tories are about to face their biggest defeat ever in less than 6 months, then it doesn't matter much who's gonna be the next Tory leader, does it? In fact, I'd like to see less Tory-related content and more Labour ones since I still have no idea what this country and my daily life will look like when Labour takes over?! Please share relevant content!!!
The tory downfall is a collective effort. Trash after trash.
As my late grandmother used to say "GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH"
and we are not seeing a downfall in the labour party are we go look how many MPs have quit because of the war against hamas and israel
@@jeffdingle9677 like we need another blairite in office that is what starmer is he praces tony blair even though starmer say "he is nothing like tony blair" but he is borrowing what tony blair did back in the day.
@@Anthony-xd1lj
Well it seems like the two main factions in labor are either Blairites or literal communists so take your pic.
Kier Starmer's the first name that jumps to mind.
I hope that when Keir becomes PM he makes Tony Blair foreign secretary .
Is it that time of year again where we get a new Prime Minister?
well it's been a couple of months already
You guys are even worse than us (Australia) and that's really saying something lol.
@@fatalshore5068there is a reason the dream of most brits is to leave for Australia, politics is often better of two evils
@@thundabolt7867 We finally got rid of our conservative party at the last election. Looks like you guys will too at this upcoming one.
I used to be a Tory member...I now couldnt dislike them more.
I woule say though that I really hope Penny doesnt run this time, shes a good politician, and I dont want to see a rare good tory ruined as a scapegoat when the tories lose.
cabbage 2.0?
It has to be penny mourdant… anyone else is insane
Then surely it would never be her
@@lif6737 thinking about it she’s gonna lose her seat so it literally cannot be her ☠️
I haven't been able to identify any cabinet minister since Boris' cabinet except Braverman and David Cameron
Lots of nonentities.... Might be the same with Starmers bunch as well ?
And neither of those are "good" name recognition
@@richardruff8712we'll have to wait and see I suppose. Can't be worse can they.
@@takecourage92 What about HUNT.... Jeremy Hunt ?
An 8 minute and 31 sec video to say 'no idea, could be any of them'
Genius, pure genius
He lists the possibilities and the background. No need to claim that a certain one will be it if it's not certain
This is the sort of videos TLDR generally makes. They don't shy from dabbling into using clickbait titles. I guess I don't complain because atleast they still give some information regardless
For impartiality/clarity could you start with “Following polling data, it’s becoming clearer and clearer that the conservatives will lose the general election”. Or something to that effect, it draws the direct data source and highlights that this isn’t a statement of fact from TLDR but, rather drawn from data following a trend. Small but, very important distinction. Cheers from a long term viewer/supporter :)
This really isn't TLDR's strength. Happens in a lot of videos. I often don't think they consider data at all. If they had they'd know Mordaunt is likely to lose her seat.
They're TL;DR by name TL;DR by nature 😀😀
But seriously short videos are terse and for clicks not serious analysis.
Given that Tory MPs have opened the succession battle before the election is called it is becoming clearer and clearer they'll lose.
No sensible ideas, just delusions and scandal.
Their own bad behaviour makes for self fulfilling prophecy, pretending otherwise is pure right wing hopium, just like the oxymoronic Brexit benefits they lied about for years and are suffering the consequences having kicked out almost all conscientious MPs, leaving them detached from reality.
@@corpclarke She may be likely to lose her current seat, she might not be likely to lose the seat she campaigns for. That's two potentially different seats. If the Tories are looking for potential replacements, they might want to put them in safe seats in order to guarantee that they stay in the party.
@@user-uf4rx5ih3v There are barely any safe Tory seats available, and the safer the seat the less likely the incumbent is to give it up. Plenty of MP's are resigning , opening up dozens of seats, but few of them are winnable.
Sorry, but isn't that obvious? Do they have to remind you that water is wet too?
Sunak is already setting up his next job as a tech bro. He got his friend Musk to set him up with a job.
The little Cameron on the thumbnail implies that he could be Con leader again and that would be hilarious after all this time
My vote is for a chocolate teapot as it would be more effective
And last longer
And the stuff it spills out is much tastier
And easier to clean up the mess after you're done
@@rafael_lana Chocco giz bucket would be too
Who cares who leads the Conservative Party. I don't think there is any way back after the inevitable defeat in November. Why would anyone bother standing to be the leader? They only stay in charge until the other MP's vote them out.
I don't get to vote in the conservative leadership elections, but from an outsiders perspective I find the rankings pretty clear:
A chicken > Penny M > Rishi Sunack> Kemi B > a lettuce > Liz Truss > Suella Braverman
As such my vote in the general election might have to go to the MRLP as they are the party with the best PM candidate in the list.
I think I might be voting MRLP too.
Suella Braverman! She can be a great dictator for the UK.
I love how we've gone from last year people saying there's still a chance of a 1992 repeat to this year people saying Canada 1993 is on the cards.
zero seats
It's important to remember that Sunak's successor would have to survive the election. Penny Mordaunt is in real danger of losing her seat.
As is Braverman
Wow.. finally.. he lasted longer than everyone expected!
😆😆
From a purely objective political entertainment point of view it is going to be interesting to see how many MPs the Conservatives have left after the election and their place on the political spectrum. If they end up with sub 100 MPs as one poll has suggested, there could be a situation where there are only centrist, or only right leaning MPs left. It could change the whole feel of the party. And will the remaining MPs align with the views of their membership, donors, their councillors and other party elements. What's left of the party could fall apart.
Well, lets hope so.....!
There is no wayyyy suella is a candidate 😂😂
She's the best of a bad bunch starmer included
@@mightymizzar9672 In what way? She appears to lack all the traits of a natural leader.
@@SimonPass230267 she lacks all the traits of being a human being
@@mightymizzar9672If that pic is you, you look too young to understand any of this, back to playing with your action figures sonny, cos you clearly know nothing of what you speak.
@@mightymizzar9672 "Best of a bad bunch" - what a ringing endorsement.
I think my pet cat would do a better job than sunak
Larry
😂 truth. I'll be relieved at not having to listen to my mum's and her NHS colleagues' slamming Sunak. They absolutely f!@@£g loath him.
What's your pet cats stance on abortion?
@@mr.netflix9149 *meow*
@@mr.netflix9149 what's yours?
I wish this was a little more analytical. Didn't mention that Penny Mordaunt is in a former Labour seat and probably won't be in Parliament after the election. If so the more centrist Tories will back another candidate, no mentioned. Additionally the reminding Tories are likely to be in rural, moderate, safe seats meaning the more right wing, Brexit, red wall conservatives will be gone. Just feel like this could have gone a little deeper.
Agreed. Mentioning the MRP polling (as outlined on, for example, ElectoralCalculus) against each of these candidates’ seats would have provided another perspective.
the question would appear moot for the foreseeable future..
I’m American so it’s so weird to see a Conservative Party with women and people of color in actual leadership roles and weight in the party
As a Brit, it's also weird for me to hear the sexually and ethnically diverse front bench promote misogyny and xenophobia. Although David Cameron set up processes to diversify the cabinet, it seems the selection criteria still requires the holding of rabid views. I suspect that they are willingly being used by less diverse colleagues to smuggle in more extreme policies than might otherwise be possible.
I'd define Trump as a PoC as well, orange is a colour!
Wow if an American thinks it’s weird then we truly are f ked
@@nathanaelsmith3553 Honestly it make sense. Your average old white male conservative fart probably still feels that they have to control what they say so they don't get labelled as racist, sexist, etc. but minorities in top party positions can much more easily push an extreme party line while more easily dodging such criticisms. I honestly think this is the direction a lot of Conservative parties in the West are going, using minority members as their mouthpiece to deflect more obvious criticism against the party. It's perfect in a way, you can enact blatantly discriminatory policies and then if people criticize the party for it, the party can just gaslight the opposition by saying they're actually the ones doing the discrimination.
How is that quote anti trans?
Right? You can be pro marriage, benefits, name change etc. But if you point out the obvious innate advantage on sports, you're a monster apparently. It's extremely unfair to the athletes.
I'm guessing the choice for the Tories is between 'saving seats from being lost to Labour' and 'saving seats from being lost to Reform'?
It's quite obvious if there's a change in leadership, given polling, they're there to save the furniture at the next election. I'm guessing that many Tory MPs may feel that Reform is more of an existential threat to the party, so may be inclined to support a more right-leaning leader to mitigate the losses.
I could, of course, be wrong.
It needs Reforming for sure.
If the tories are smart, they’d get Penny in.
Penny won’t get in.
Yeah would love to see reform overtake the torries
Dumb question who couldn't replace him is the bigger question
Well, there is a lower age limit. So my 3 year old nephew can't replace him.
Doesn't mean a thing if Penny, Suella or Badenoch don't win their seats. If the leadership contentest is after the election and not triggered before hand by bickering MPs the tory party landscape will look vastly different. With current polling and majorities being over turned of 25k+ being favourites amoung Conservatives means very little if you aren't viewed favorably in your constituency.
It's not Sunak or Liz or Boris it's the Conservative Party! People are fed-up with them governing for corporations instead of the people...
Mannequin in a top hat?
They have atleast one if you like Mogg
ChatGPT?
@@andybrice2711 ChatGPT doesn't have data after 202...2? I think, so they'll have to bring it up to date
@@_jpg It's for the Conservative party though. We don't want it getting too many modern ideas.
@@andybrice2711 Fair 😆
I think there's zero chance whatsoever of the UK electorate voting for a black woman to be the Prime Minister.
Isn't it the party membership (in the Tories at least), not the UK electorate that votes for the Prime Minister (by virtue of voting for the leader of the party which wins Government)?
Why did the thumbnail have a picture of David Cameron? It's not a big deal on its own but its just one more example of the increased amount of clickbait across TLDR and it really puts me off and makes me doubt your integrity as a news channel. If you would lie about the content of the video to pull in views, why should I trust you to deliver unbiased news when sensationalism is more profitable?
I get why some MPs might want to try. "With someone else, I might be able to keep my seat.". But, who would want to replace him? Even if someone had a plan that they thought would turn things around, do they think they'd be able to get it passed and implemented to make a difference by the end of the year? Most likely not. Which leads us to ask: Does anyone really want to carry the mantle of being in charge when the Conservative party lost their biggest election ever?
To be honest the fact that these are the three individuals left to replace Sunak, just says it all. No wonder Sunak has not received a confidence vote...
*Starmer would make a great leader of the Tories*
A point I feel you should have touched on is their relative chances of holding their seats.
A while back, I put 50p on Truss being the next leader at 100/1, she's now on 66/1. I can't cash that difference out, unfortunately.
Hopefully a Labour government.
🤞🤞🤞
A real Conservative would be a start, and for all you Socialists don't think for one minute it would be any better with Labour. Their open border policy would mean millions more immigrants and much higher taxes to fund them.
Socialism leads to Communism.
@@VoidlessDeityDon't be daft
@@VoidlessDeity labour is not socialist, its more conservative than the "conservative" party at the moment
How on earth would the Tories get 155 seats!? Are people stupid!? ZERO SEATS!!!
Full seats for reform
Because Labour is worse and many hope for a return of proper Tories to the party
Because we don't have proportional representation
ZERO SEATS!
@@mightymizzar9672 How is that gonna help?
"Wow, that conservative party has moved more to the right over the last decade and also wrecked the country with its policies. We should elect that even righter party, where all the people, who promoted the previous policies, which turned out to be based on lies and stupidity, defected to. That will help the country!" 😂
One thing you haven't really mentioned is the vulnerability of Mordaunt's seat. Badenoch and Braverman in NW Essex and Fareham & Waterlooville respectively are not going anywhere at the next election, but Mordaunt in Portsmouth North very much could. Her being taken out in her seat would mean her faction of the party would probably have to find someone else, potentially someone that isn't well known
Recent polls with Braverman put her with a small majority in her constituency old boundaries and a loss on the new boundaries, depending on campaigning she too is quite at risk
One important factor to bear in mind is the very real chance that Mordaunt, and maybe even Badenoch will lose their seats.
Badenoch would be hilarious.
The country cannot aford to laugh..... for a good while.
How so. She's undoubtedly better than Sunak, Truss, and loads of others. As far as they all go, Badenoch is the best of a bad bunch. I don't know why she'd want it though. Poisoned chalice.
Got it. The options are ruthless, heartless or clueless.
If the tories do genuinely get decimated it will signal that the public are sick of the current crop. Don't rule out a complete outsider being their next leader by virtue of their lack of association with recent governments.
They will choose the most crazy candidate. So Suella.
Who cares whos next, the tories have an inexhaustible supply of bellends.
As a right wing libertarian I would like to say that truss is about a right wing libertarian as Keir starmer is a socialist
If current polling is right none of these will be eligible after the election
Personally, I can't see Mordaunt even holding her seat. Portsmouth North has been Labour before, after all.
One of the strange ironies of these candidates is that the party most famous for being perceived as racist and sexist, is also the party without a single white male as serious contender for head of the party.
They don't want to ruin their career.
Guess what. women can be sexist, and minorities can be prejudiced against other minorities. But it's a great political tactic. Want to kick a refugee? The daughter of immigrants is the best person for the job. I recognise the mentality in my own family. My dad believed he should have been the very last immigrant allowed into the UK. Pulling up the drawbridge.
Liberalism has truly won out in Western society. Now we have inclusive racism and sexism
What happened to elections? Isn't he the 4th non elected ( by the people) leader of the country.
Nobody directly votes for the UK PM unless you are a voter within their constituency. Moreover, there is no constitutional requirement for the PM to even be an MP. It is just the custom of the currently dominant parties. This is how a parliamentary system works. We don't have a presidential system.
We don't live in the USA and we don't directly elect the Prime Minister.
Edit. I am not saying that the USA elects their President directly. 🤦🏻♂
Boris was elected tbf, he did win a general election. It's just Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak that haven't.
Both Boris Johnson and Teresa May won elections, so it’s just been Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak who haven’t won a general election (but yeah as others said, no PM is directly elected).
@@johnburn8031neither do Americans. They also vote for local representatives, then majority gets presidency. The USA election style isnt too far off from britian's.
It's kind of the most irrelevant question in British politics right now, with the absolute devastation that they're about to suffer. May as well be asking what particular colour the next Monster Raving Loony Party's leader's hat inner lining should be.
I LOVE YOUR VOICE
The right wing would most likely gladly choose Moordaunt over either Badenoch or Bravermann, let’s not forget that they’re the right wing for a reason 😂
I'll replace him if you want?
I'm sorry but I think there serious rethink about faction labels - someone who advocated for No Deal Brexit, wanted to make Andrea Leadsome chancellor and ended up backing Liz Truss for leader can't really be described as a "moderate"
Compared to everyone else being frothing at the mouth rwnj...
You forgot the lettuce
Ofc when mainland Europe shifts right, the UK shifts left.
I guess they cant get enough of all the immigrants
Tories in power for 14 years... more than expected a shift to the left.
Donkeys is better
The MRP polls aren't predicting what the seat count will be in the next general election. They were predicting what the seat counts would be if there was a GE on the day of the poll.
It doesn't extrapolate to account for possible changing sentiments between then and the date of the GE.
Ok, step one to becoming leader of the tories, “1. Become popular with other tories.”
This is f-ing gold, keep it coming, I’ll be the king of England in no time…
Whilst two of the candidates are essentially monsters, it is nice to see that woman are becoming more leading within politics.
Representation is a good thing.
We'll still criticise them for their actions, though, just as we do for our male politicians.
When I was a kid we had a female Prime Minister. Pretty sure the Queen was female back then too.
British politics is mad 🫨
Dont matter who they put in charge their incompetence over the years has sealed their fate none of them are worth voting for same with labour but they will probably win and run the country further into the ground
Labour Party only have 8% working class members, down from 70% when they started and in the 80s.
Tories-lite. We need proportional representation now.
I will never understand how the Conservatives came up with the idea of appointing an Indian as their leader when the main motivation for Brexit and support for the party was based on racism and rejection of the non-UK indigenous population. He was inappropriate from the start.
Because Indian people are mostly conservative and racists too.
You're having trouble with your conclusions because your assumptions are wrong. Also Sunak was born in the UK.
@@meantares India supported Mandela against his fight against Apartheid and recently added AU to G20 during it's presidency in 2023. Do you have any example of India being racist towards Asians, Blacks or Hispanic people ??
This is about to be a full cabbage harvest 😂
Suella.
Mordant … you must be joking.
So many factions...why don't they just split and become a multiparty system?
It's hardly controversial that the British Empire was a force for good. The BE was not the first empire in basically any of the regions it occupied, and most had known atrocities and exploitation by previous regimes...however, only the BE left a legacy of anti-slavery, an evil that had plagued mankind since pre-history.
In its short time the BE ended the slave trade, spread the industrial revolution that gave us prosperity beyond what anyone thought possible, spread the scientific principle that elevated humanity to the tech level it enjoys now, spread medical advances that have saved billions of lives, spread modern agricultural tech that has resulted in more people dying of obesity than famine (something that was unheard of in all history before the 20th century), prevented Napoleon from conquoring Europe and defeated the Nazis.
All in all, they had a positive legacy. Lets not forget that if the UK had taken the land it likely would have been taken by another, as empire was the order of the day. Its not as if it would have remained independent, either a local/regional empire would have taken the land, or another European one would have...and look at their legacy. Most had to be forced by the UK to abandon slavery.
no one reply to this comment with outrage, this person is just trying to farm interactions with controversy
@@struanpeat5116 thing is, he has a point 😂 it's not like there were perfect borders and equality before the british showed up. They either left the situation better or the same after they left.
I think Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Party will ended up like what happened to Kim Campbell and her Party (Progressive Conservative) in the 1993 Canadian federal election winning only 2 seats...
Has anyone else noticed that as the Tory party gets weaker that Ben keeps looking more vibrant and sexy?
Nebula News wtf. When I started watching 'This Week In Parliament' this was a one-person outfit considering giving up.
Wow.