Retro Header Build-Off Part 5: Building an Anti-Reversion Chamber

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  • čas přidán 18. 09. 2017
  • Now that you have seen how the header was built, we are going to move on in the exhaust system and complete the next part. In the earlier episodes, Aaron kept hinting that he was going to use "secret torque magic" for the header build-off. He reveals on this episode that it is the Anti-Reversion chamber - he explains how it works and how to make one. We also cover the Flex, Mid-pipe and Catalytic Converter installation.
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    Parts used on this exhaust system (Vibrant Part Numbers)
    Header:
    4x 2603 U-J 1.75" Mandrel Bend
    2x 10350 1.5" - 1.75" Collector
    6x 10340 Spring Tab Kit
    4x 2601 U-J 1.5" Mandrel Bend
    1x 10352 1.75" - 2" Collector
    Anti Reversion Chamber:
    1x 2686 2"-2.5" Reducer
    2x 2630 2.5" - 3" Reducer
    Exhaust:
    3x 1490 2.5" V-Band Assembly
    1x 60804 2.5" Flexible Coupling
    1x 7525 GESi Catalytic Converter
    1x 2641 2.5" Straight Tubing
    1x 11898 Exhaust Hangers
    1x 1188 Saddle Style Weld-on O2 Bung
    1x 1118 Street Power Muffler
    3x 13040 2.5" Mandrel Bend 90 Degree
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Komentáře • 70

  • @imadude85
    @imadude85 Před měsícem +1

    David Vizard said that the anti reversion mechanism is best done at as near to the exhaust valve as possible, that is by putting anti reversion flaps at the beginning of the exhaust header.

  • @NickKautz
    @NickKautz Před 6 lety +13

    What he made there is called a merge collector. The cone shape is to allow scavenging (negative pressure waves) to occur over a longer duration per pulse, which adds power over a broader rpm range compared to a standard collector which causes a stronger but shorter duration negative.

    • @lilwewe1451
      @lilwewe1451 Před 20 dny

      6 years is a little late but he made whats called a reversion chamber that was placed past the merge collector. The design is to prevent reversion (exhaust resonance/reverse flow) which in turn assists in scavenging. another way that big racers do(F1, NASCAR, rally) is stepping up the header piping at increments to make it harder for those reversion pulses to travel back up to the exhaust valves hindering scavenging.

    • @NickKautz
      @NickKautz Před 19 dny

      @@lilwewe1451 For whatever reason , the term "merge collector" seems to be used to describe a collector with an expanding exit, whereas a "collector" typically doesn't have that. I don't know if the anti-reversion chamber actually does what it's believed to do, because the incoming pressure wave encountering a constricting cone after an expanding cone would likely cancel some of the negative pressure that would otherwise have contributed to scavenging. Stepped headers assist scavenging by causing moments of negative pressure while the exhaust valve is still open (I'm assuming that's the goal), helping to evacuate the cylinder better. I would think a constricting cone would create some back pressure, but probably insignificant in this case because of how much larger in diameter the anti-reversion chamber is compared to the collector.

  • @TheForcedinductn
    @TheForcedinductn Před 6 lety +10

    Cool stuff but I thought anti reversion chambers were supposed to be as closed to the exhaust ports as possible, is that not the case? For those that don't know, anti reversion chambers also help with engines that have a lot of exhaust valve overlap, the chamber helps keep exhaust gases from being sucked back into the cylinder during the intake stroke.

    • @getweir_d
      @getweir_d Před 6 lety +7

      yes, directly at the head would be the ideal location. packaging prevents that in this application. I've seen other fabricators have success gaining torque placing them post collector on n/a headers. there is a lot of math involved to maximize the potential of the chamber. the intent here is to encourage people to try new things and learn by doing.

    • @phoneuser3569
      @phoneuser3569 Před 6 lety +3

      FORCED-INDUCTN
      A proper pulse tuned exhaust does not need them.

    • @TheForcedinductn
      @TheForcedinductn Před 6 lety

      Aaron Weir Super cool, I didn't realize they would work that far down, awesome work! @ Phone User, interesting, makes sense too.

  • @everydayirace
    @everydayirace Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bad ass work, thumb 👍

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Před 6 lety +8

    Never heard of a chamber like that for 4 stroke engines. It seems to resemble a 2 stroke technology for controlling exhaust pulses.

  • @unijabnx2000
    @unijabnx2000 Před 6 lety +5

    I would love this guy to build a full exhaust for my 370Z
    pretty please!!

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 Před 5 lety

    What schedule pipe do you use for the headers and the rest of the exhaust? I see SS turbo Headers used SCH 10. Do you use thinner tubes for N/A aplications?

    • @hipjr832
      @hipjr832 Před 4 lety

      Yeah, if you're running an NA build then there's no point in having thick piping such as (Sch 10, 40) it'd be best to use thin wall tubing

  • @emeliealegonero4043
    @emeliealegonero4043 Před 13 dny

    Nice

  • @mike.135i
    @mike.135i Před 6 lety +1

    so much about exhaust i didnt know, can u put these chambers on any natural aspirated car like an e46 straight 6 BMW or is it just for certin cars where this chamber will be beneficial?

  • @todd5082
    @todd5082 Před 4 lety +4

    Great welds! Heat sink idea is brilliant. The 1980’s porn music not so good.

  • @anamgguy3794
    @anamgguy3794 Před 3 lety +3

    Can you talk about what this does for turbo applications, the Pagani Huayra uses these in place of mufflers

    • @MrIngorodrigues
      @MrIngorodrigues Před měsícem

      The theory is The exhaust pressure wave can push The mixture back to admission loosing some VE

  • @AdamNZ
    @AdamNZ Před 2 dny

    They're also called reverse cone

  • @302hobronco
    @302hobronco Před 19 dny

    Is there a mathematical equation to figure out tube length and diameter for the anti reversion pipe?

  • @LikeZO
    @LikeZO Před 5 lety +1

    @2:44 Wish I could say the same of my welding lol.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Před 6 lety +2

    Nice! I see the Speed Academy boys have reverted to your method of fabrication. I guess their "digital wizardry' can't work any more...LOL

    • @daos3300
      @daos3300 Před 6 lety +3

      it looked like such a colossal and unnecessarily overcomplicated timewaste..

  • @tape2199
    @tape2199 Před 3 lety

    The part that you slid inside the cone should've went outside of the cone because you're interfering with scavenging unless you butt connect the two together and weld it. Whenever you're connecting a piece to the exhaust going outward you always slide it over the previous piece.

  • @TheSol115
    @TheSol115 Před 17 dny

    work on dino at low rpm ?

  • @brandonjones5808
    @brandonjones5808 Před 6 lety

    Where did you get the background music, because it sounds like my classic disco set 1 that I posted on my soundcloud my name is J.Golden Productions

  • @Rigohm
    @Rigohm Před 6 lety

    Would an anti-reversion have benefits on a turbo set-up (assuming it's after the turbo outlet or down pipe)?

    • @brandythompson528
      @brandythompson528 Před 6 lety +2

      Rigo Hernandez don't think so. The exhaust would have to come back through the turbo, which I don't think is possible.

    • @getweir_d
      @getweir_d Před 6 lety

      no, there is not a significant benefit in a turbo application as all the pulse waves are disrupted by the turbine wheel.

    • @piHi-lg8pl
      @piHi-lg8pl Před 6 lety +2

      The best exhaust after a turbo is a laminar bell which is super short and would change shape depending on the variations in flow. It's kind of like how rockets loose parts as they change altitude the thrust cone(bell) keeps the correct burn happening for max thrust but on a turbo it's going to be reversed where we will take the pressure coming out of the turbo and try to diffuse it with the greatest pressure transition possible without inducing more turbulence.

  • @waltmucha2499
    @waltmucha2499 Před 2 lety

    Anti reversion chamber. Is this like dv’s chamber?

  • @Cannibeasty
    @Cannibeasty Před 6 lety +7

    Hey Vibrant, I need advice. What schooling (degrees or certs) would I need to have a job in a speed shop like this? What does the career path look like? Thanks in advance!

    • @RacecarAndChill
      @RacecarAndChill Před 6 lety +2

      Great question. Hoping they answer.

    • @krazed0451
      @krazed0451 Před 6 lety

      .

    • @ryanfulkman
      @ryanfulkman Před 6 lety

      william ulibarri, start with vocational schools. Learn welding and automotive.

    • @piHi-lg8pl
      @piHi-lg8pl Před 6 lety

      I work at a speed shop and I have had zero schooling.... teach yourself and get skilled trade jobs and look at college to expand your people base

    • @MrLister30
      @MrLister30 Před 5 lety +1

      Hi William, that's a great question. The most important thing is you need is passion for the industry. I am one of the technical staff at vibrant along with Aaron and Jay. We all have completely different backgrounds, Jay is self taught, Aaron has a machining background and I am an engineer. We all bring different expertise to the table, but we all share a deep passion in racing, automotive design and fabrication.

  • @truthseeker8483
    @truthseeker8483 Před 6 lety +1

    Who sells these exhaust sections again????? Don't forget a silencer or two....maybe a resonator??

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  • @lilflatty2472
    @lilflatty2472 Před 6 lety

    Why not use a rotary fixture? It makes the process so much easier and consistent.

  • @pirsq314
    @pirsq314 Před 6 lety +7

    Why does a 2002 need a cat? They never came with one so why add the exhaust restriction?

    • @VibrantPerformanceTV
      @VibrantPerformanceTV  Před 6 lety +8

      That's a great question - There were a couple of reasons when considering adding the GESi Catalytic to this vehicle. Firstly, yes - the car is old enough to not have any emissions regulations by the government, however we have tested these catalytic converters in the past on naturally aspirated vehicles and have actually seen an increase in horsepower when adding them (refer to our video 'How can a Catalytic Add Horsepower?' czcams.com/video/56oLVgpwOAs/video.html). Secondly, Art requested to add the cat because he wants to have an enjoyable experience when driving the car on the street - by having cleaner air coming out the pipe, eliminating the smell, etc. Lastly, the whole exhaust has V-Band connections will allow him to switch the catted section with a catless midpipe or even put on straight piping off the header all the way back if he decides to track the vehicle.

    • @TheEldukerino
      @TheEldukerino Před 6 lety +1

      I was under the impression that carburated vehicles do not run efficiently enough to use a cat. I have thought about putting one on my car (Datsun 510 with side draft Mikuni's) but have heard that the cat would overheat and break down very quickly. Are the GESi Cats able to handle the variations in AFR that carbs present?

    • @ReidHenderson
      @ReidHenderson Před 5 lety

      @@TheEldukerino I don't understand why either. But I know some cats have a metal core catalyst so they can handle extreme heat and richer running vehicles better. But the carb would still probably wash all the catalyst of the substrate then its not much of a convertor anymore just a muffler.

    • @skippy2987
      @skippy2987 Před 5 lety

      @@VibrantPerformanceTV This could only be because adding a slight restriction there benefits the pulse tuning. High performance honda guys have discovered that "high flowing" the cat reduces power, not realising honda know what they are doing when they release an emissions legal 100hp/litre engine. You'd almost certainly note the same gain in power with a piping size step-down then step-up in the same place.

    • @HondaTrumpAi
      @HondaTrumpAi Před rokem

      @@skippy2987 Got a 100 cpi metallic core cat on A k24 still today. Thank you

  • @Fenrasulfr
    @Fenrasulfr Před 6 lety +1

    A set of webers would finish the look of an oldskool sportscar engine.

  • @tomscustomshop
    @tomscustomshop Před 4 lety

    Like it!

  • @00duce84
    @00duce84 Před 6 lety

    where is the background music from?

  • @gpggarciano2234
    @gpggarciano2234 Před 3 lety +1

    whats the use of the Anti-Reversion Chamber? can some shed some light over here please...

    • @imadude85
      @imadude85 Před měsícem

      Prevents the exhaust pulses travelling back upwards. It happens because of valve overlap during high intake vacuum. When done right, the benefits includes improves torque at lower RPM, ability to use more aggressive cam timing, can go full throttle at much lower RPM, less Nox.

  • @darceedarcee
    @darceedarcee Před rokem

    Doesn't that bother you that the vibrant merge bottle necks the flow so much??

  • @johnvineyard67
    @johnvineyard67 Před měsícem

    have you dyno tested any of this .... thinkn not ..

  • @evanmastermind
    @evanmastermind Před 6 lety

    Black bars = cinematic.

  • @daos3300
    @daos3300 Před 2 lety

    looks nice, but do you have any math to back it up?

  • @AdamKyleAnderson
    @AdamKyleAnderson Před 6 lety +6

    So you build a nice free flow exhaust and then go stick a massive restricter ( CAT ) in the middle. DOH!

    • @VibrantPerformanceTV
      @VibrantPerformanceTV  Před 6 lety +4

      Refer to our video regarding out GESi Catalytics: czcams.com/video/56oLVgpwOAs/video.html

  • @thebavariancircle5105
    @thebavariancircle5105 Před 3 lety +1

    Trust me, I’m a tube engineer..... 🤦🏻

  • @sxs4l245
    @sxs4l245 Před 5 lety

    This is not a working mans exhaust. I would probably have to take a second job. STEP back son, I got this....

  • @CharleswoodSpudzyofficial

    Man this guy can weld

  • @GUEST-qw4te
    @GUEST-qw4te Před 3 lety

    Iirc. Your anti reversion part is at the wrong end.

  • @alexhise968
    @alexhise968 Před 20 hodinami

    No math just looks

  • @goclunker
    @goclunker Před 5 lety

    Omgherd itr a 2002trrrree

  • @briguy91931
    @briguy91931 Před 6 lety

    You could cut out half the work by doing a side exit!!! Mwahahahaha!!!

  • @phoneuser3569
    @phoneuser3569 Před 6 lety

    Lol anti reversion chamber and a CAT.........wtf dudes.