Planes With Massive Guns - Phwooaarr! Look At The Guns On That One

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  • @HardThrasher
    @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +299

    Snagging
    - The P.108A, beloved of War Thunder players was skipped on the reasonable basis I had never heard of but my world is better for having learnt about it. Sadly it didn't work and they only built one as a result.
    - Discussions of energy vs momentum...sure ok, I mean Ihaven't a clue really but glad you do. Please direct discussions of the difference between momentum, recoil, energy, force etc towards someone who cares. Big gun go bang but not back is the extent of my knowlege.
    - The missing AC130 was on the list but then I decided to cut it because I am a heartless bastard ;)
    - The HS-129 is not here because it had the same issues as the Ju-88P and, contrary to what War Thunder might have taught you - it also didn't work, but there are better sources that I could find on the Ju88P than the HS-129 so Iused that. If you want to imagine I included HS-129 just swap the words out in your head, but bear in mind that they only made 20 odd and they never saw serious action as they basically disintegrated on firing *and* only had half the ammunition of a JU88P version

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z Před 5 měsíci +28

      What follows is a second-hand repeat of an unverified/unverifiable story that came from one of the now-deceased perpetrators!
      Apparently the yanks up in the islands north of Australia were rather amused by the way the somewhat inadequately-supplied Australian military would cannibalise absolutely _everything_ in order to better fight the Japanese. Unlike the Australians, the yanks were well-supplied with things like planes, trucks and guns, and tended to have to do other things than fix those planes, trucks and guns that had some sort of failure.
      Being amused by them, and finding that it was good to have Australians on their side in the war; they even left some quite fixable things by the road etc for the Australians to quickly press back into use in some way. Said Australians were beyond just taking anything that would move, they would take a lot of things that were not really supposed to be moved; and earned the name "The Hydraulics".
      The point of this was one of the "adaptations" performed by these creative people was to take a RAAF Lancaster, take a 17pdr anti-tank gun, and concoct some sort of fitting to mount the gun to the main wing spar. Pointing it out through what had been the bomb aimer's station. The pilot was provided with some aiming marks on his windshield. A couple of gunners were posted at the breech of the gun, and fired it under command from the pilot.
      This system was reported as working - the shells that hit the Japanese ships were reported as blowing holes right through the bottom of the hull.

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Před 5 měsíci +5

      question: do you mean the base version of the HS129 or the one with the extra gun bolted onto it due to the standard armament being a on the inefective side? also did you drop the hs129 due to being underpowered? if yes then thats the magic of the gnome rhone radial: i dont know any planes that had these engines and that wherent under powered.

    • @WolfeSaber9933
      @WolfeSaber9933 Před 5 měsíci +4

      As an aerospace engineer, I've came up with an idea for an A-10 replacement without it being the F-35 or 16. And its gun with a 57mm auto cannon that shoots explosive rounds. To keep up with technology, the pilot would have the ability to heavily lead the shots, like if the plane was a flying artillery piece.

    • @uberduberdave
      @uberduberdave Před 5 měsíci +4

      Thanks for not including the Bell YFM-1 Airacuda, but you could probably do an entire episode on the P-39 and its 37mm gun...

    • @Keckegenkai
      @Keckegenkai Před 5 měsíci +3

      Heres the HS129 blowing up some soviet armor in the later stages of the war
      czcams.com/video/gSoWlaUF4vQ/video.html

  • @WedgeGCrew1545
    @WedgeGCrew1545 Před 5 měsíci +892

    History of conflict with the United States "WHO TOUCHED MY BOATS?!?!"

    • @liocla2331
      @liocla2331 Před 5 měsíci +55

      a lesson best learnt from its father

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 5 měsíci +79

      Who touched my boats and "Is that oil?!?"

    • @philvanderlaan5942
      @philvanderlaan5942 Před 5 měsíci +18

      1120ad ( the white ship ) , the US : huh? What ? Oh! It’s too early, I’m going back to bed until I actually exist.

    • @leonardkrol2600
      @leonardkrol2600 Před 5 měsíci +12

      This should be the motto of the US Navy.

    • @dclark142002
      @dclark142002 Před 5 měsíci +36

      “I am United States… and this [grabs boats] is my weapon. [lays both hands covetously on navy]
      [Checks the port of his navy] “Oh my God, who touched Bill? Alright…Who touched my boats!?”
      “Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, [sniff] maybe. I’ve yet to meet one that can outsmart guns.”

  • @nemilyk
    @nemilyk Před 5 měsíci +421

    Aviation Nerds: "You are without a doubt the worst aircraft designer I've ever heard of."
    Blackburn: "But you *have* heard of me..."

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 Před 5 měsíci +39

      Tbf not everything they did was a failure, they did give us the Buccaneer so there's that I suppose

    • @68poundercarronade
      @68poundercarronade Před 4 měsíci +7

      ​@@hammer1349buccaneer's airbrake 😋😋🥵🥵🥵

    • @Wemfsh
      @Wemfsh Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@hammer1349the buccaneer is the most beautiful military aircraft ever built fight me

    • @moblinmajorgeneral
      @moblinmajorgeneral Před 4 měsíci +6

      The Republican Guard after being completely obliterated by the Buccaneer: That's got to be the best subsonic attack aircraft I have ever seen.
      So it would seem...

    • @andrewgause6971
      @andrewgause6971 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@hammer1349Monkeys and typewriters, my friend. XD

  • @palamecianrider7385
    @palamecianrider7385 Před 5 měsíci +426

    Lord Hardthrasher and the Colonials sounds either like a 60's band or just a plain description of a British man in the 19th century

    • @philvanderlaan5942
      @philvanderlaan5942 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Sounds great ! Eagerly awaiting that album

    • @stephenandersen4625
      @stephenandersen4625 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Hardthrasher sounds like a death metal band

    • @stephenmeier4658
      @stephenmeier4658 Před 5 měsíci +16

      They opened for Paul Revere and the Raiders during an ill fated tour of England during which Paul became obsessed with announcing "the British are coming" while observing the venue filling up with music fans. The band decided to leave England and never return

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 5 měsíci +10

      British 19th/ 20th C Culture at home and Public School was based on discipline of Caning/Corporal Punishment a two faced English mp is called Andrew"Thrasher" Mitchell.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@stephenandersen4625 Sounds like a death metal band that's trying too hard to make sure you really know they're a death metal band.
      "Lord Hardthrasher & The Colonials" on the other hand... I'd probably buy that album. :)

  • @Direwolf1618
    @Direwolf1618 Před 5 měsíci +307

    I am surprised no mention of the AC-130 Gunship with that lovely 105 mm has proven to be extremely effective over the decades.

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +186

      Given how many of them got shot down in Vietnam, and how useless they'd be if the US ever faced an enemy with MANPADs and/or an airforce, I did nearly include them, but they were a bit obvious

    • @iivin4233
      @iivin4233 Před 5 měsíci +19

      I don't know if they'd have any utility, but I can imagine a few "recoiless" designs that might work.
      Who says the tube needs to be attached to the plane? Give it some fins, let the plan drop a bundle of recoiless tubes and detonate--I mean fire them remotely.
      Or the tubes could be mounted on a similarly disposable drone, or a less disposable drone that orbits the battlefield--or swarms it. Though, at that point, you could just use glide bombs.

    • @chamberlane2899
      @chamberlane2899 Před 5 měsíci +42

      @@iivin4233alright, so hear me out: a giant HEAT round.
      I mean after all, a HEAT round is just a big shotgun firing point blank.

    • @ravenoferin500
      @ravenoferin500 Před 5 měsíci +16

      ​@@iivin4233Uhuh keep going sounds like something from Battetech. Just biggify the idea.

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +57

      @chamerlane keep talking, I'm nearly there

  • @antardragon
    @antardragon Před 5 měsíci +115

    At the end there I thought Lazerpig would parachute in and drunkenly yell "It's shit!" when the A10 briefly popped up.

  • @hamstermk4
    @hamstermk4 Před 5 měsíci +226

    "Cletus the conscript," cannon loader and navigator sounds like someone I want to hear more about.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 5 měsíci +15

      "Some folks'll never lose a thumb, but then again some folks'll... like Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel!"

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 Před 3 měsíci

      Me too but he died being a pilot

    • @bificommander7472
      @bificommander7472 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Is he a friend of Private Conscriptovich and Colonel Kleptovski?

    • @fungalcoffee
      @fungalcoffee Před 2 měsíci

      I think my grandpa served with him in WWII

  • @Fr33zy159
    @Fr33zy159 Před 5 měsíci +171

    To be fair the B-25G's M4 cannon wasn't a straight up tank gun, it was highly lightened and modified to fit in the nose of the B-25. So it was actually designed specifically for aircraft use. What's hilarious is this modification was then installed in the M24 light tank. So the Americans actually designed an aircraft gun and then stuck it in a tank.

    • @chrisgibson5267
      @chrisgibson5267 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Did the M4 gun lead to the M6 gun that went into the Chafee?

    • @deshonarnold2253
      @deshonarnold2253 Před 5 měsíci +8

      ​@chrisgibson5267 That is what he is saying.

    • @michaelkoerner4578
      @michaelkoerner4578 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@chrisgibson5267 that's what the m6 is, the ground version

    • @animaltvi9515
      @animaltvi9515 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thought the Gs gun was an tank gun that basically buggered up the airframe and the one in the H was the lightened redesigned version ? . Neither were particular good or liked by the crews. . Preferred the J solid nose version. . So I've been reading anyway.

    • @TheSchultinator
      @TheSchultinator Před 3 měsíci +2

      Considering the US tried to make a tank for paratroopers to take along, sounds about right!

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 Před 5 měsíci +290

    My takeaway from this video confirms to me that the De Havilland Mosquito is a beacon of enduring perfection that was able to anything it bloody well felt like, with the highlight being middle-fingering Goering for a laugh. but also being able to mount literally every type of weapon including an anti-tank gun.

    • @peterkerr4019
      @peterkerr4019 Před 5 měsíci +18

      @Turnipstalk The Swordfish had a lot of fun at Taranto, too. The Italians were not impressed. But I'd still have a Mosquito any day of the week.

    • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
      @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Mosquito was the best plane of ww2, period.

    • @markwilliams2620
      @markwilliams2620 Před 5 měsíci +7

      From a bunch of unemployed piano makers in Hatfield.

    • @kirotheavenger60
      @kirotheavenger60 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@Turnipstalk wooden aircraft aren't stealthy, the majority of a plane's radar cross section comes from the spinning props, and both had significant amounts of metal in their construction anyway.
      Late war Swordfish had metal wings for the lower pair, to protect them when firing rockets.

    • @kirotheavenger60
      @kirotheavenger60 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @Turnipstalk the problem with first hand accounts is that they're not very "clean", they're riddled with context they might not be aware of, generally quite small in scope, and just generally full of all sorts of biases and get jumbled with time.
      Plus, this is an area we don't need to rely on first hand accounts, we have plenty of actual data. And we can see that aircraft like mosquito were not materially any 'stealthier' to radar than their contemporaries.
      I have no doubt, however, that German radar operators struggled to track Mossies on radar. Mossies flew low and fast. Accounts of them flying *beneath* phone lines and even trees as not hard to find. Compared a typical fighter roving for a Circus or Ramrod patrol or whatever, yeah a Mossie is gonna be hard to see. But not because it's made partly of wood.
      Wooden aircraft weren't that novel, half the Soviet airforce was wooden.

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing Před 5 měsíci +165

    "At the bottom of the round they had a wad of grease and lead balls..."
    Well who hasn't been there after a big night?

    • @FifingFossil
      @FifingFossil Před 5 měsíci +14

      What a amazing design, you can destroy zeppelin with 40mm HE shell and shred your own plane with nearly 1kg of metal balls fired like shotgun

    • @kevinchristensen84
      @kevinchristensen84 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ​@@FifingFossilAt least it gets you out in the open air.
      -Matthias, Monty Python And The Life of Brian

    • @russhoover6768
      @russhoover6768 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@FifingFossilHow about we turn the gun around and light the grease flame on.

    • @FifingFossil
      @FifingFossil Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@russhoover6768 no true gentleman could think about such practice, this would be disgrace

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@FifingFossil Quite aside from it being disgraceful behaviour, one runs the risk of performing a brief impersonation of a rocket engine's combustion chamber undergoing what is known in the business as a "hard start". Which would generally be regarded as a non-optimal outcome for such an experiment.

  • @benattwood8786
    @benattwood8786 Před 5 měsíci +70

    "Piss de l'resistance" - Best phrase I've heard in a long time!

  • @armymanaka360
    @armymanaka360 Před 5 měsíci +237

    Can’t believe you cut me off in the middle of my viewing experience to reupload,shame on you good sir

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +96

      Sorry! Massive fuck up at my end

    • @armymanaka360
      @armymanaka360 Před 5 měsíci +60

      @@HardThrasher it’s alright lad,now I get to watch it twice

    • @noobie64
      @noobie64 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I was trying to give this video a thumbs up and it said entity is gone! 😮😂

    • @iivin4233
      @iivin4233 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@HardThrasher I was initially disappointed, which is a compliment if you think about it.

    • @smellysam
      @smellysam Před 5 měsíci +5

      Watch out lad, you might get demoted down to « aspiring CZcamsr ».

  • @MrHrannsi
    @MrHrannsi Před 5 měsíci +62

    "Went for a burton", have not heard this phrase since Monty Python was around, excellent episode from our good Lord.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 5 měsíci +4

      I'd like to know who this Burton was, sounds like an unfortunate sort of chap.
      Off to google I go.

    • @gchampi2
      @gchampi2 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@sixstringedthing Burton's Tailors, a High-Street suit retailer. When you were demobbed at the end of WW2, you were paid off & given a voucher for a new suit (to make the job search easier), said voucher being usable only at Burton's. Hence, someone who disappeared from their unit had "Gone for a Burton", aka been discharged from service.

  • @dongiovanni4331
    @dongiovanni4331 Před 5 měsíci +63

    I'm rewatching, and am at the explanation of recoilless guns.
    On to the story: some madlad strapped some bazookas (recoiless infantry portable anti-tank weapons) to a Piper Cub, and shooting at tanks. WW2 was crazy.

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Bazooka was a rocket launcher, not a recoilless gun.

    • @dongiovanni4331
      @dongiovanni4331 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@richardvernon317 counterpoint: that thing at 4:52 looks suspiciously like a Karl Gustav

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@dongiovanni4331 That it is. US and UK did develop recoilless guns in WWII, 75 and 105mm ones in the US entered service, while the UK developed the shoulder fired 3.45 inch Burnley and 7.2 inch trailer mounted weapon. The British had the 120mm Wombat gun as its primary infantry anti tank recoilless gun until the advent of guided anti tank missiles. One mad cap idea was a recoilless Aircraft gun for the Gloster Javelin. It got 30mm Aden cannons instead.

    • @QofSQ
      @QofSQ Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@TurnipstalkYou got there before me. The principle is the same; they are both recoilless weapons.

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 Před 5 měsíci

      @Turnipstalk The Bazooka is a Rocket fired out of a smooth bore tube!!! A recoilless gun fires a shell down a barrel which is normally rifled and leaves the cartridge casing behind. They are not the same thing!!!

  • @badhippo
    @badhippo Před 5 měsíci +34

    "morphine addicted blob" - that made me dribble my coffee from laughter. Thank you.

    • @zymuralchemy
      @zymuralchemy Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Lord Hardthrasher Guide to Nazi's would be an excellent video. Bring in Roman from Regular Car Reviews and go to town on the whole of the Reich.
      Hermann Goering: The official nazi of spamming the call flight attendant button for more sandwiches.

    • @allenlombard3627
      @allenlombard3627 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Don't forget they were all on Meth as well :D

  • @patrickstewart3446
    @patrickstewart3446 Před 5 měsíci +28

    When I heard “Blackburn” I knew the plane was going to look weird.
    😁

    • @WilHenDavis
      @WilHenDavis Před 4 měsíci +1

      25 mins was all I could stand! Dire! Good God! Get rid of the comedian-wannabee! 😞

  • @William_Bryant
    @William_Bryant Před 5 měsíci +33

    Don’t. Touch. The Boats.

  • @martinjones12
    @martinjones12 Před 5 měsíci +31

    The IJN had the temerity to "exist for a bit" !!!!! PRICELESS line M'Lord, tickled my working class ribs royally!!!! LOL!

    • @tomarmadiyer2698
      @tomarmadiyer2698 Před 5 měsíci

      The US was a distraction from the ijn's true nemesis, the ija

  • @gandsproductions5105
    @gandsproductions5105 Před 5 měsíci +63

    My favorite big gun plane project is probably the german attempt at mounting a recoilles, autoloading flak 43 to a ju-88. It was called the "duesenkanone duka 88". Never flew, but the modification was made to 1 ju-88.

  • @OlegMilitaryHistory
    @OlegMilitaryHistory Před 5 měsíci +18

    The section about the Tupolev I-12 missed the best part - the Kurchevsky recoilless 76mm guns were MUZZLE LOADED autocannons
    They had a tubular magazine that ran parallel to the gun barrel, and was situated above the barrel. In front of the gun barrel, there was an extension that kind of looked like a catcher's mitt. To load - a push bar would push the entire stack of rounds inside the magazine forward, until the front round literally fell out of the tube under its own weight, and would (theoretically) fall into the catcher's mitt. Then, there was a little spring-loaded push rod with a plate, that would chuck the round down the barrel - kind of like an infantry mortar - and then rotate the little plate out of the way so when the round hits the pin at the base of the gun, and is fired out the front, it doesn't take the plate with it. Needless to say - allowing your rounds to free-fall into the catcher's mitt with zero mechanical constraints - WHILE FLYING - meant that most of the rounds fell straight down to the ground, and never even made it into the barrel in the first place.
    This article here has some good photos of the Kurchevsky recoilless muzzle-loaded autocannon in a current museum display, with close-up views of the catcher's mitt:
    yuripasholok.livejournal.com/12093507.html

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +12

      OH MY GOD! THat's.....wow.....but thank you, that has brightened my whole day up

    • @OlegMilitaryHistory
      @OlegMilitaryHistory Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@HardThrasher some of Kurchevsky's other hits included a 152mm non-autoloaded recoilless rifle mounted on the Russian equivalent of the Ford Model T, a 305mm recoilless rifle mounted on a tiny WW1 destroyer, a 100mm autoloaded recoilless rifle on the Tupolev DIP "heavy fighter", a 152mm autoloaded recoilless rifle on a G-5 torpedo boat - and the proposed plan for a battleship-caliber recoilless rifle to be mounted on a heavy bomber (which is where the fake illustrations of the Kalinin K-7 with the Iowa battleship turrets comes from)

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 4 měsíci +3

      So it was an airborne and "automatic" version of some poorly trained young conscript constantly risking blowing his hand off with each reload.
      But it worked so poorly that most rounds just fell harmlessly out of the sky, so the Probability of Kill for this weapon was mostly dependent on whether one of those dropped rounds happened to hit someone in the head when they fell.
      You have revealed one of The Most Soviet Things Ever. Fantastic.

    • @Ailasher
      @Ailasher Před 2 měsíci

      @@sixstringedthing The engineer who designed the gun was sent to gulag. His patron was shot in the head after a trial on another case (it was the famous “genius” Tukhachevsky). The young poorly trained conscripts were in safe (until the next day).

  • @dmanbiker
    @dmanbiker Před 4 měsíci +11

    The P-39 Aircobra is always neglected. Single engine fighter, built around a 37mm through the propeller hub. They had to put the engine behind the pilot and run a drive shaft through their legs to accommodate the gun and armor and had the fuel tanks in the wings.

  • @MortRotu
    @MortRotu Před 5 měsíci +14

    Loved the guest appearances, loving the real comradery this group of historians shows one another as well! Bravo Lord Hardthrasher, Bravo sir!

  • @daniTise3270
    @daniTise3270 Před 5 měsíci +20

    I've got a silly gun for you old boy! Your cousins in the antipodes (The civilised ones not the aussies), designed the officially fastest firing single-barreled machine gun in history in WW2 known as the Mitchell Light Machine Gun with a firing rate of 110 rounds a second (please ignore the 30-round magazine). The idea was that because the RNZAF only had pathetic lawnmowers with wings strapped on, we needed a cheap domestically produced machinegun that could tear enemy aircraft to pieces. The recoil from the Mitchell LMG is so horrific however, that tests showed that if an aircraft such as the ones being used were to have four fitted, the recoil would slow them down to the point they would stall. As a result, the only surviving example is now on display in the National Army Museum of New Zealand

    • @jonc4403
      @jonc4403 Před 5 měsíci

      The Aussies are kinda nuts when it comes to rate of fire. czcams.com/video/wKlnMwuCZso/video.html

  • @badeiser
    @badeiser Před 4 měsíci +4

    The AC 130 is the ultimate expression of big guns on big planes

  • @marklivingstone3710
    @marklivingstone3710 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I’ve always had a soft spot for the modification tried on the ME163 Komet. Because of its speed it was difficult to line up on target and fire a sufficient amount of ammunition to complete the job. The solution was to mount 8 cannons along the top of the wings, 4 each side. There was a photo sensitive cell in each cannon. The idea was that the ME163 would fly beneath a target and each cannon would fire when it sensed movement above it. Because of its speed, the first trial of the system resulted in all 8 cannons firing with in less than 1 second and blew the wings off. Back to the drawing board.😊 ( source Mani Ziegler’s book, ME163 Rocket Fighter)

  • @evernewb2073
    @evernewb2073 Před 4 měsíci +10

    to be fair the gun in the A-10 hasn't proved all that useful either: basically the engineers were ordered to make an airplane with that gun in it and told to prioritize making it relatively economical and easy to repair. a little bit of napkin math later and someone had realized that they could probably produce a respectable aircraft that could be serviced and repaired in your average tractor shed using off the shelf parts for somewhere in the ballpark of $15-25k a pop (ended up at ~$17k) but the cost of the *_pilot_* was at minimum going to be somewhere around $250k, so their best-results interpretation of the non-negotiable parts of their orders ended up being to use the gun as additional armor for the pilot and design every aspect of the aircraft that they could around the goal of recovering the pilot alive because 1 retained pilot was roughly 5 times the resource value of the total loss of aircraft + weapons loadout + assorted logistics costs _and_ the longer a pilot remained alive the more valuable and effective they became as opposed to the constantly depreciating value of any aging materiel.
    to be clear the aircraft _can_ fire the gun reliably and accurately, it's just not all that terribly useful compared to the plethora of other ordinance strapped to the thing and does not, in fact, actually do the one job that the idiots insisting on the aircraft's design and production intended it for (the "anti-tank" gun does not actually kill tanks worth a dam because diving on them to hit top-down hasn't been a viable thing since WELL before the aircraft was proposed, though it does do pretty well against anything else)

  • @relwalretep
    @relwalretep Před 5 měsíci +14

    Thanks for reassuring me that I wasn't in a fever dream around 6:20 or so in the previous release

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice Před 5 měsíci +10

    I WISH we had the 14 inch cannon do217 in War thunder. I can think of nothing more hilarious than flying straight at someones tank barely above stall speed and eviscerating them with a naval cannon before watching my entire plane get ripped apart by the force of the gun or smashing straight into the ground.

  • @Jo-rz6bs
    @Jo-rz6bs Před 5 měsíci +6

    Im just happy to see the word phwoooaaar for the first time since Viz

  • @frankquevedo3453
    @frankquevedo3453 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This was a Very fun program to view and view (2) again! Informative, imaginative, and entertaining narration! Good bloody Show chaps

  • @shinobutakumirebirth7004
    @shinobutakumirebirth7004 Před 5 měsíci +5

    And just like that I found another channel to feed my addiction to englishmen, aussies, and maybe a scot or two explaining funny things about aircrafts and aircraft accessories

  • @williamrobinson7435
    @williamrobinson7435 Před měsícem +1

    Some chat in comments about the A10. I once had the pleasure of taking coffee in S. Kensington with a retired Warthog pilot, who pointed out that the thing evolved from its earlier marques, in which the pilot was sitting directly above the massive rotary cannon to one in which the gun was more nose mounted, and pointing down a bit, obviating somewhat the necessity for the inertial lurch which made recovery to airspeed and therefore not crashing at least possible.
    Great channel you have here my lord! 🌟👍

  • @olegue3554
    @olegue3554 Před 5 měsíci +20

    hi to the people wathcing when the live was taken down

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +5

      SORRY! Total balls up at my end

    • @134StormShadow
      @134StormShadow Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@HardThrasherdon't worry about it. Get to watch it twice now 😊😊😊😊😊

    • @wurzel9671
      @wurzel9671 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@HardThrasherwhat hap?

  • @Crises79
    @Crises79 Před 5 měsíci +20

    The redo!

    • @spajansen
      @spajansen Před 5 měsíci

      what happened? i was half way

    • @canon-de-75
      @canon-de-75 Před 5 měsíci

      huh??

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +12

      Sorry! Basically the first half of the video got weirdly cut up when I edited it to put in Red's section, and I didn't know until it went live in the Premier so as fast as I could, I recut it pulled the old one and put this up. My sincere apologies

    • @HeroicCid
      @HeroicCid Před 5 měsíci

      I was going to say, the premier had 1200 people watching and now the video is back at 600 views.

  • @tonybrett7974
    @tonybrett7974 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I dropped history at school (a very long time ago) due to it being absolutely effingly mind numbingly boring. Many decades later thanks to some very good authors & with extra special thanks to the likes of you Sir, I am gaining an ever increasing knowledge of the past with added wit. Excellent work!

  • @lokai7914
    @lokai7914 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Another wonderful trip into history, with just a soupcon of sarcasm. Marvellous!

  • @phillipneal8194
    @phillipneal8194 Před 5 měsíci +3

    It is a pleasure to regard your videos/documentaries. Thank you.

  • @kingcosworth2643
    @kingcosworth2643 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Unhinged engineers are the best kind of engineers

  • @baanibarnes9711
    @baanibarnes9711 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You had me on your written intro, everyone needs a sense of humour, I eagerly await the following content!

  • @richardvernon317
    @richardvernon317 Před 5 měsíci +9

    32 pounder never fitted to the Mosquito. A trial like the German one was done in 1945 with pressure sensors where parts of the airframe were going to be. That's as close as a 32 Pounder got to be fitted to the aircraft.

  • @planesounds
    @planesounds Před 5 měsíci +4

    A note from the Antipodes, never ask for a "shrimp" on a barby. A shrimp is the size that only gets included in a salad. Prawns are what we eat starting with those the size of a middle finger going through to Tiger and King Prawns that are size of a banana. Besides, too many of the prawnetttes have probably been harvested from a cess pool in Vietnam while the real prawns fought to the end in the open waters of the Gulf of Carpentaria.
    Apart from that a brilliant video. I learnt a lot but probably coming from a low base. Thanks. (Careful with images of "The Rock" as some people get a bit precious about using images of their sacred sites.)

  • @stefanstringer725
    @stefanstringer725 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As a enjoyer of your channel and a New Zealander, I thank you for this video, but most importantly the dead-accurate Australian impression.

  • @enjaymarine
    @enjaymarine Před 4 měsíci +2

    As an ex-RAF Engine basher and general player-about-with-aircraft for more than half a century, I have to ask myself the oblivious question - "Why have I not seen this splendidly tongue-in-cheek channel before..?" Needless to say, said Subscribe button has been pressed and - though now retired in warmer climes - one will monitor similarly scathing productions with delight and anticipation. Keep doing what you're doing..!

  • @geoffhunter7704
    @geoffhunter7704 Před 5 měsíci +6

    In 1943 the RAF and the Fleet Air Arm tried to fit a M1940 4.5" AA GUN to Short Stirling Bomber to take out U Boats a Pneumatic/Hydro Recoil System was developed and the weapon was mounted in the Bomb Bay in a housing.Come the first Ground Firing the Ventral Blister was ripped from the fuselage after the overstressed recoil system failed.The biggest fitted was a M1897 75MM Cannon as its MV was only 535 MPS giving a lower recoil as you state B25 and Mosquito were fitted with this plus the 57MM A/T gun was also fitted though its MV was 864 MPS but by this time the recoil system was much improved finally the Short Sunderland was fitted with twin 20mm Oerlikon's which was successful.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The cannon in the Sherman was derived from the M1897 so presumably the M1897 would be similar to the M4 but on a bigger aircraft. I'd like to have seen them mounted in the weapons room, trundling out to a position under the wings when needed...

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@wbertie2604 As stated the 75MM fitted to the B25 and Mosquito was the M1897 adopted by the US as was 155MM in 1917 the 75MM having a MV of 534MPS and really unsuitable as an A/T Gun hence having to get close to a Panther/Tiger at 500Yds to take them from the side, the supreme Allied A/T Gun being the 3" 17Pdr brew up these German Tanks at 1200M

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@geoffhunter7704 they used the M1897 earlier in the war on the M3 GMC. And the M3 75mm was derived from it. The Germans put captured French ones on PAK 38 carriages, IIRC, and used them as AT guns. It wasn't totally useless, if a bit lacking by mid-1943.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@wbertie2604 There was also the US M5 a concoction of 3" AA Barrel and Breech +the 105MM A1 Carriage Assembly MV was 792MPS and developed in 1940/41 but the ever so conservative USB of Ord stopped work on it to concentrate on the 75MM however complaints from Europe forced the Board to begin work on the M5 and it was fitted to the M10 Achilles its performance was not quite as good as the 17Pdr but it was very useful.It was replaced by the 90MM at 823 FPS but the board fucked up the AT Round and it was taking 2/3 strikes to brew up Panthers and Tigers see M26 V Panther Cologne 1945 on YT.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@geoffhunter7704 sometimes AT development (US, British, German) sounds like an episode of Scrapheap Challenge.

  • @marknewman2187
    @marknewman2187 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Absolutely spiffing old boy ,made me spill my port " Jenkins more LBV ,chop chop my good man" looking forward to your next moving picture old man , tallyho

  • @GadgetSteelmare
    @GadgetSteelmare Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gonna be honest, I'd never heard of your channel before until a friend linked this video to me. I'm glad I took the time to watch it! I enjoyed the laughs I got out of it, and it was fun learning about aircraft I hadn't know about before. I'm definitely subscribing.

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 4 měsíci

      Much as I would love to assume I am a household name alongside Obama and Messi, it appears I have some way to go yet 😉
      Welcome aboard, glad you enjoyed it

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Found this video on CZcams recommendation. Love it. you just got a new subscriber, and I subscribe to the other contributors of the video.

  • @Wheels-of-terror
    @Wheels-of-terror Před 5 měsíci +12

    Speaking of conglomerations (what a nice word to describe the abominations), was the nationalization of aircraft companies as bad of a result as what happened with British Leyland?

  • @csjrogerson2377
    @csjrogerson2377 Před 5 měsíci +3

    You said there would be some swearing and so I should have been prepared, but I was utterly shocked when you said "Blackburn". Steady on M'Lud, that was a bit strong.

  • @michaelnaven213
    @michaelnaven213 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Big guns for little airplanes with jolly good humor, what could go wrong?😂😂👍🤣🤣👏

  • @cehussey
    @cehussey Před 5 měsíci +2

    Big improvement with the background music. The tracks fit so much better than the generic track I heard in an earlier vid. The whole doc, including the guest segments, comes together really well. And I learned something new about attempts to strap large caliber ordinance on planes not designed to handle such.
    In terms of planes with unusual weaponry, another that comes to mind was mounted in one of the more iconic aircraft of WWII, the Bf 109, with its propeller-shaft cannon.

    • @gwtpictgwtpict4214
      @gwtpictgwtpict4214 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The French did the same with the Dewoitine D.520 and the Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 both of which were in service at the time of the fall of France.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat Před 5 měsíci +7

    I shall point to the Quad ADEN 30mm Revolver Cannon.
    Mounted on many fine British jets.
    At 4 × 1,700rpm you got yourself 6,800rpm and, what, 25kg? of exploding lead every second.
    Which we bolted on to everything we could.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads Před 5 měsíci +1

      Were adens revolving cannon or normal belt fed like a hispano?

    • @heneagedundas
      @heneagedundas Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@sugarnads Revolver cannon. Many years ago as a 16 year old I did my work experience on an RAF base. I had the good fortune to be taken to the ground firing of an ADEN that the armourers had just finished maintenance work on. Impressive stuff.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads Před 5 měsíci

      @@heneagedundas cool. Id n3ver read anything about their layout. Just aden 4 pack

  • @theackshow5048
    @theackshow5048 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Lord HardThrasher, you edited my dad out of the B 25G video!
    Now that I have properly vented (etiquette requires me to not speak too harshly of their homeland by the maternal British side of my family...), I was amused by the mention of windows being blown off during test firing of the "G" prototype. This, indeed happened to my dad when he was given the honor of firing the 75mm cannon for the first time during a test flight. The plexiglass nose bubble (the cannon prototype was a previous-generation airframe) blew off pinning my dad against the bulkhead behind the bombardier position.
    He survived the event relatively undamaged with the exception of his pride.
    Thus, the G model and successive iterations of the B25 sported an all-metal nose piece
    I would like to put forth the unconfirmed theory that some Knob had supplied 75mm artillery rounds - instead of rounds with a more sensible powder charge - from the local armory for the experiment.
    Having chatted with actual B25G pilots in my relative youth, I can verify that one of the reasons why there are possibly only two B25Gs in existence is the fact that operating the cannon caused the airframe to slowly disassemble itself. They were great for shooting at locomotives - especially when emerging from a railroad tunnel - in the Italian/North Africa theatre. The Japanese were not terribly fond of the B25G, either.
    For the curious reader, here is the full B25G video complete with my dad appearing at :25 into the presentation: czcams.com/video/alGQNwLc-LM/video.htmlsi=ufLDrGdmW45IvEBa

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones Před 3 měsíci +1

    This could be where Winston Churchill learned about that soft underbelly of Europe -- a phenomenon which, other than the Dardanelles, consisted mainly of Alps, Appenines, and maybe the odd mine field or so.

  • @micstonemic696stone
    @micstonemic696stone Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you
    History with a laugh
    Cannot swear back because of CZcams algorithm
    There is nothing better than hearing an Englishman swear like a trooper
    And I enjoyed the video

  • @ridermak4111
    @ridermak4111 Před 5 měsíci +3

    JEEZUSHAROLDCHRISTONRUBBERCRUTCHESTHAT’SFUNNYSH!TRIGHTTHERE. And that’s coming from a Yank who understood every word from a Mach .9 speedspeaking Brit. So rare.
    Hilarious and informative…a masterpiece. 👊😎

  • @johndonker319
    @johndonker319 Před 5 měsíci +3

    The Boeing 747-400 YAL-1 Big Laser belongs in this line up as well. :D

    • @diestormlie
      @diestormlie Před 5 měsíci +1

      Sadly, I don't think the Laser counts as a *Gun.*

    • @ohgosh5892
      @ohgosh5892 Před 19 dny

      @@diestormlieoh yes they do. Energy is energy.

    • @ohgosh5892
      @ohgosh5892 Před 19 dny

      and light has momentum, on a quantum photon basis.

  • @RangerOfTheOrder
    @RangerOfTheOrder Před 2 měsíci +1

    15:50 This reminds me of what I used to do all the time in Space Engineers.
    Build a small, maneuverable craft, then whack a great big gun on it.

  • @UD503J
    @UD503J Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was going to call out Paper Skies' video on the MiG-9 but I saw at the end that you directly referenced that video. Love to see he's getting more attention!

  • @captainyossarian388
    @captainyossarian388 Před 5 měsíci +4

    No mention of the Airacobra where they had to move the engine behind the pilot to accommodate the cannon (and IIRC if the pilot was unlucky, it could stall backwards because of that)?

  • @fguocokgyloeu4817
    @fguocokgyloeu4817 Před 5 měsíci +6

    No AC-130H?

  • @udp1073
    @udp1073 Před 4 měsíci +2

    One of the best video ever, informative yet freaking funny

  • @Oldtanktapper
    @Oldtanktapper Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wasn’t expecting a ‘Story of O’ reference in a video about aircraft armaments, but there you go.

  • @Direwolf1618
    @Direwolf1618 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Was mid watch on old version...

    • @fuckoff4705
      @fuckoff4705 Před 5 měsíci

      nothing hardthrasher can change about that

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Sorry! Basically the first half of the video got weirdly cut up when I edited it to put in Red's section, and I didn't know until it went live in the Premier so as fast as I could, I recut it pulled the old one and put this up. My sincere apologies

  • @rbaxter286
    @rbaxter286 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I believe the B25 75mm was ripped out and placed in the Chaffee tank?
    That's what I think I heard in a UK Tank Museum video (i.e., not come 'colonial' museum).
    And, and, no "Big Gun Go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!"?? You know, a plane actually designed with the gun in mind?
    Or, a cargo plane with a 105mm howitzer and 40mm cannon???

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Could well have been, I don't exactly know, but someone will

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 5 měsíci

      It is true

  • @barbaraanneneale3674
    @barbaraanneneale3674 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Bravo, another brilliant video. Who knew that history could also be hilarious?

  • @RTYT504
    @RTYT504 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The whole, "lets slap two 40mm auto cannons to a hurricane and call it a day" thing

  • @ViperFox_
    @ViperFox_ Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was going to be very upset if the MiG 27 wasn’t in this video but it was there. Well done sir

  • @ironwolf2173
    @ironwolf2173 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Ah yes, the mosquito. Just a damn fine plane

  • @liladoodle
    @liladoodle Před 5 měsíci +2

    I feel like a part 2 could be done. Because U'm surprised you didn't mention the Italian P.108 bomber, which had a variant armed with a 102mm gun for anti-shipping duties.

  • @brianford8493
    @brianford8493 Před 5 měsíci +1

    So much delivered at high knots for such cost and little black over red., Brilliant as usual Der Thrasher....Ta! ✌️

  • @felipecardoza9967
    @felipecardoza9967 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Best. Damn. Military. History. Channel. Also, the most hilarious.

  • @user-ii7tf7xc6p
    @user-ii7tf7xc6p Před 3 měsíci

    "It seems mans desire to combine massive guns and air planes is more challanging and complex then one might assum- im sorry, did you just hear something?"
    A-10 Has joined the game

  • @SGTBacon99
    @SGTBacon99 Před 3 měsíci +1

    "Congratulations, you have shot yourself down" LMAO

  • @roywerder533
    @roywerder533 Před 3 měsíci +1

    There is also the curious case of the F51D M40, a 1970s testbed for mounting two recoilless rifles on a P51's wingtips

  • @Kitty-CatDaddy
    @Kitty-CatDaddy Před 5 měsíci +1

    "He foolishly let me do the video editing....." You just don't know how hilariously funny that line is.

  • @peterknowles3198
    @peterknowles3198 Před 4 měsíci

    Due to holidays and lack of internet I have been unable to access Your Lordship for the past three weeks. Now back home and internet restored, one feels a great stirring in the undercarraige as your honey soaked voice once again imparts knowledge, wit and wisdom in no small measure. An excellent video as ever, thsnks for posting. As a boy, my favourite plane with a big gun was the Henschel 129. I am sated

  • @garycollard1981
    @garycollard1981 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Loved the "sudden outbreak of T34s" comment....funny.

  • @ionized007
    @ionized007 Před 5 měsíci +2

    RED WRENCH??? Most unexpected collab of the CENTURY

  • @tomarmadiyer2698
    @tomarmadiyer2698 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Part of me wants to set this video to loop overnight and see how many playthroughs i can sleep-absorb
    I'll have a third watch before bedtime I'm sure
    Tickle the all going rhythm for our Lord HT

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 2 měsíci

      Earrape youtube ads might be a slight problem

  • @roywerder533
    @roywerder533 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I would honestly welcome a series on "planes with ludicrous amounts of guns", I don't think it gets worse than the B25 with the 14 .50cals

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 5 měsíci +1

      The YB-29 has entered the chat

    • @roywerder533
      @roywerder533 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@HardThrasher Oh boy. Although it has almost all of them in turrets, as compared to the B25J-NC, which can boast 18 forward facing guns and 6 more in turrets, technically beating out the YB-29 (albeit a lot less practical) :)

    • @roywerder533
      @roywerder533 Před 5 měsíci

      I should correct myself, after some more researching it is only 4 extra in turrets, as I have found no evidence of a bottom turret and the top turret is counted as forward facing, since it can fire straight ahead.

  • @crusaderiii477
    @crusaderiii477 Před 2 měsíci

    The AD scout looks like something that would be used to catch pigeons and fail.

  • @user-ek9vo2ub9b
    @user-ek9vo2ub9b Před 4 měsíci

    "You have some guns on ya! That's what he's talkin' about! Shake them guns! You can do the Tube-shaker? The Gun-shaker? Gimme the Gun-shaker! Shake them guns!"

  • @daveb6470
    @daveb6470 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brilliantly funny and surprisingly thought-provoking...

  • @hajimeokajima
    @hajimeokajima Před 5 měsíci +1

    Another banger from Lord HardThrasher and some of the other CZcamsrs that are one of those worthwhile CZcamsrs and not bumbling David Irving simps like a certain other famous internet British Traitor we know. Did miss Jenkins though, the boy needs more love. Cheers!

  • @jimcottee9187
    @jimcottee9187 Před 3 měsíci

    Subscribed - from the Land of the Big Red Rock. Being a military Rug Rat, I had to follow my father's postings to various Air Force bases, including Boscombe Down, where he did his Test Pilot course in the late 50's. Having cut his teeth firing his P-51's guns & rockets over Korea, he went on to fly all 3 of the V Bombers in the UK, then more cannon & rocket fire from the F-86's during the Malaysian Conflict . He went on to test fly the F-111 over Texas before the RAAF purchased the Pig. I wonder if someone thought of putting a bloody big canon on that.?

  • @wmden1
    @wmden1 Před 4 měsíci

    Some of this is a bit hilarious. Thanks. Love the Mossy, with its 2 Merlins and made out of good furniture wood. Nice segment on it. Bad assed little plane, though I know it's not that little.

  • @nd_gunslinger_6264
    @nd_gunslinger_6264 Před 4 měsíci +1

    "most of the operational aircraft were converted to a much more modest 14 machine gun variety, because uh-AMERICUHHHH F**K YEAH" As an American, can confirm. I started laughing out loud while waiting for my college class to start, had to unpair my headphones and let my buddies listen to that 😂😂 I couldn't help but think what the engineers were thinking when they bolted all of that together. "The P-47 Thunderbolt is awesome with eight .50 cals, lets slap another six on that bad mammajamma, and see how much swiss cheese the Duece can make" is what I'm guessing 😂

  • @johnnieangel99
    @johnnieangel99 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just came upon your channel. Absofrigginlutely Love this vid. Thank you and keep up the stellar work

  • @JahBushi
    @JahBushi Před 2 měsíci +1

    you had me at autoloading PAK40!

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot420 Před 4 měsíci

    That warning at the beginning is _almost_ perfect. It just needs something along the lines of "Remember, offense is only taken and never given."

  • @charlesclark3840
    @charlesclark3840 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'm not a Lord or a Lady, so I guess that makes me one of the Crazies. WHO TOUCHED MY BOATS!?!?

  • @WideLoad405
    @WideLoad405 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This guy is like Drachinifel on speed.

  • @ingihrannar8781
    @ingihrannar8781 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Finally i hear from you again!
    Havent even watched the video but im sure its a good one, similar to all the rest.
    Please have a wonderful day M'lord!

  • @pjbth
    @pjbth Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can't wait for the next one. Your Channel is going to blow up here soon its awesome content

  • @Shaun_Jones
    @Shaun_Jones Před 2 měsíci +1

    The brits did eventually get into the “way too much gun” club. After the success of the Tetse, they decided to fit the Mosquito with a gun that it was believed would be able to one-shot a U-Boat no matter where on the vessel the round hit. The weapon chosen? A 32-pounder anti-tank gun; yes, the exact same gun that was mounted to the Tortoise assault tank. Supposedly, the aircraft did handle firing tests quite well, but then someone removed the opium from the design team’s tea rations and they all realized it was a dumb idea and buried the test report in an archive.

    • @HardThrasher
      @HardThrasher  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm sort of vaguely aware of the attempt and can but applaud it ;)

  • @787.h8
    @787.h8 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Its the first time I’ve enjoyed a video about history.
    You have an excellent way of delivering information love from saudi❤️

  • @cbaylor0369
    @cbaylor0369 Před 5 měsíci +1

    How dare you upload on a work day? How do you expect me to get any work done- now I must sit and grab a drink and watch!

  • @andibell652
    @andibell652 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Splendid as always m'lord.

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You missed off the Italian offering of the Piaggio P.108A which carried a rather manly 102mm cannon.