I would say Aemond and his brothel worker reminding you of Mary holding Jesus is very much readable as a mother holding her son. So It's not about evoking the image of Aemond as Jesus but the image of the relationship between the two, which very much has maternal conotations
Viserys didnt talk about Aegon's dream in s1 e3, he talked about his own dream. He never talked about the "song of ice of fire" or "the prince that was promised" Alicent's sept routine wasnt from Rhaenyra's memory she literally asked Mysaria about where/when to go to meet her.
Didn't Preston also get hung up about Blood being at the gate I thought that was also pretty clearly Mysaria... CIA's got him working overtime I guess.
Preston has… issues with S1E3 for reasons that continue to elude me. I’m just lucky we didn’t get a refresher on how Viserys was irredeemably evil because he “never thought” he’d have another son. 😑
Preston's most complaints, are all him not paying attention to any details and missing out on details that's already presented in the show.... He already did it in the episode 1 after show... I didn't finish last episodes after show and now I think I'm also not going to continue this one.
Preston I think you’re looking way too far into the Jesus statue thing. This is an issue that you have with a lot of your content, in that in your mind you noticed the similarity between the statue and the pose and thus concluded “oh wow so that means the scene is supposed to have all of the symbolism of the statue”. Besides a passing similarity of a mother figure holding a smaller person there is no comparison and no correlation between the statue and Aemond besides one in which you choose to interpret it, lol. It was clearly a scene meant to show that the woman is a comfort figure for Aemond, and which he got mocked for by Aegon in the third episode. There is literally nothing there about Aemond being a Christ figure besides that you noticed a similarity between the scene and the statue and concluded “oh so they’re definitely portraying Aemond as Jesus and the prostitute as Mary” based on literally nothing outside of a comparison you made of a statue you’re aware of and which the creators wouldn’t possibly expect viewers to conclude. Not sure if you were joking or not but, cmon man, they obviously are not trying to say Aemond is Jesus or a Christ analogue To the statue, the idea of a mother comforting her son is the primary message beyond the religious symbolism. That is what makes it a powerful image after-all, and the goal of renaissance religious art was often to capture the human elements of the Bible stories. Such as, for instance, a mother comforting her beleaguered son. That is a universal message, and a scene which depicts a similar scene of comfort should first be compared to a mother’s care rather than a specific renaissance statue about Jesus Much love, you’re my favorite ASOIAF creator, but you’re stretching way too far there lol
Preston seems to sometimes come up with a conclusion and then afterwards look for evidence supporting it. And it’s also a bit silly to think that Michelangelo invented the idea of lying in a mother’s lap
The Grand Sept looks MASSIVE and has huge bulb-like domes. I thought maybe the statues were unique to Baelor's Sept, but the Grand Sept has those too...
@@b_a_z_e_dv.2.067 Oh yes know that in the Books, but I thought in the show they've been following around Hugh in King's Landing - talking to Aegon, scene at home, scene at the tavern. In the tavern scene pretty sure doesn't Hugh say that his dad was Baelon, who he says was brother to Viserys/Daemon? When obviously in the books he is the father
@@b1bbscraz3y I'd say the end was ridiculous, though inconsequential. Also don't love the whole Rhaenyra and Alicent are kinda cool with each other and don't really want war angle when in the book they just hate each other Daemon initially just kinda lurking around Harrenhal after everyone sees his dragon was kinda dumb, and the brothel scene was extra but other than that thought the episode was really good. Simon Strong killed his scene.
Well, in the books Aegon II. is disguised as peasant to get out of Kings Landing. He has burns on his body so he shoud be easilly recognised. Then he gets to Dragonstone by fishboat (same as Rhaenyra) and hidd in the castle. This is much more absurde than the ending of this episode
no it is not. it can be absurd in its own right. but it is in no way whatsoever more absurd than Rhaenyra getting that close to Alicent making herself known and leaving King's Landing without getting arrested or killed. it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. especially after Rhaenyra flashed a knife to Alicent like she would shank her own childhood best friend. that should throw the whole "they won't kill each other they're friends" thing out the window, at least from Alicent's perspective since she was LITERALLY just directly threatened with being shanked by the person who was her childhood best friend. and especially AFTER Alicent's 6 year old grandson was just killed IN HIS BED like 2 days before this. it makes absolutely no sense. Alicent should be terrified that this was the second instance in the same week that someone was able to get this close to members of the royal family INSIDE King's Landing INSIDE the Red Keep and INSIDE the sept to be that close to her. no logic whatsoever
@@b1bbscraz3y Yeah that knife was probably bit too much. But I still think that the scene is really good. It adds alot to the story. Alicent and Rhaenyra are doing nothing in the book, even tho they are main characters. Rhaenyra wants to prevent the war and the onlyone who will hear her is Alicent, but she will not listen to her by messages so she has to meet her in person and explaine herself. As I already said the travel by fishboat happens even in the book so that shoudnt be the problem. It looks like to me that the knife incident happens because Rhaenyra is a bit stresed and as she herself said it was a mistake and she starts the conversation over again. And that Alicent didnt make her arrested is because she belives that Rhaenyra didnt killed her gradson and really dont want the war to happen. But yeah I also undestand your point of view
Exactly. I feel like because they don’t have an official story to go by they are now over criticising the episodes. Holding them to a much higher standard
Pretty sure Larys was the one who smuggled him to dragonstone. That lessens the absurdity of it a lot, as he's the city spymaster and the only ppl who'd see/recognise Aegon are ones who'd work for Larys
I don't really get why Alicent is considered to be important. Nobody ever listened to her. Why does she have a place at small council? She's not a master of anything and doesn't have a good relationship with the king either Why does Raenyra think Alicent can do something? Alicent goes like "iT's ToO lAtE" but nobody would care what she says even before that
Rhaenyra thinks that because Rhaenyra is delusional. Her show version is 100% the daughter of Viserys: indecisive, weak, refusing to take action and constantly engaging in magical thinking, believing there is still a peaceful solution somehow even though everyone around her (except Rhaenys) tries telling her there isn't. I feel especially bad for her council who keeps trying to get her back to reality, only to be accused of disloyalty and treason because Rhaenyra (and Rhaenys) don't like to hear the truth.
He told her the Targaryen line received prophetic dreams, and that he received one - a boy wearing the conquerer's crown - and his insecurity about succession involved it. Then, on his death bed, he mentions the Song of Ice and Fire, the Prince that was Promised, and the succession issue.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobinhe did not coherently assert all of this into informing her about “Aegon’s dream of the prince who was promised”. He talked about a desire and hope for a male heir, and then mumbled about the prince who was promised and Aegon when he died. He did not outline the specific prophecy to Alicent as he did to Rhaenyra, in that Aegon had a dream about uniting the realm against a threat and that the prince who was promised would arrive. That is why Alicent thinks of his deathbed mumbles in relevant terms such as him talking about preferring Aegon for the throne rather than an existential prophecy. No clue why you can’t see that and are instead focusing on the fact that Alicent heard the words “The prince who was promised”, which has no context without a relevant explanation. She does not have a full image of the prophecy just because she’s heard the words from Viserys before
Maybe, I dont think they will ever reveal what happened to Laenor, it could also be that the connection between Dragon and Rider is not globe spanning. So him being too far away from Seasmoke for too long is similar to him having died
When Alys said you will die here, i think they were on the edge of the lake. After the battle, Caraxes crawled to edge near Harrenhal, perhaps Daemon was with him.
1:53:40 pretty sure thats just confirmation bias, you only notice the wigs you notice so you think you see them all, when a good one could pass you by without realising.
Rhaenyra accuses her war council of treason merely for advising her to leave them, only to then immediately leave on her own accord on a foolish and highly dangerous mission, that results in Alicent telling her the exact same thing her war council already told her: "there is no way back, stop being silly and start living in the real world". She's a pretty bad queen and she gets worse the more she listens to Rhaenys, who seems to love accusing Rhaenyra's advisors of disloyalty merely for giving advice she disagrees with. Show Rhaenyra and Book Rhaenyra are completely different characters at this point though. Book Rhaenyra was female Daemon, but Show Rhaenyra is female Viserys: weak, indecisive, refusing to accept reality and unwilling to listen to the smarter people around her who give her pretty good advice (apart from Rhaenys obviously).
I was completely stoned watching the episode and could not believe some of the dumb things I was seeing. I was trying to convince myself that I was way too high and that I was tripping or hallucinating. but nope. when I saw Rhaenyra sit right next to Alicent and flash a knife to her, I literally said this cannot be real there is no way they actually filmed this
@@timocruz510 I'm not sure it was better. for those at least the lack of logic wasn't as detrimental from a character to character standpoint. but this just defies all logic whatsoever given the context of being on opposing sides fighting for the same position, and both sides having already killed children of the heads of each side whether by mistake or not. literally days after Alicent's grandchild was murdered in his bed. there is zero logic to it
@@b1bbscraz3y I mean you can justify it at least a little bit. Arya would straight die from that. No questions asked. End of story. The fact she somehow survived was a slap in the face to the viewer. This, though really stupid, has at least some form of justification to make it at least possible
Book Rhaenyra is female Daemon? What are you talking about? At this point in F&B Rhaenyra isn’t doing shit. She doesn’t do much of anything between the death of Luke and the death of Jace.
Why does the show have the castellan of Harrenhall explaining to daemon who the lord of the riverlands is? Like I get it on a meta level so the audience is keyed in, but telling daemon that the lord of the riverlands is a Tully is the equivalent of explaining to a congressman who the president is. They’ve probably met.
This is just like when Rhaenys koolaided through the door and then doesn't kill everyone - why didn't Alicent just act like she was walking away and then when she was safe yell out that Rhaenyra was there? Alicent's character would FOR SURE want to save all the bloodshed. This is why these convoluted "sneak into kings landing because we need a key character conversation" ruins the suspension of disbelief. Great acting ruined by stupid plot devices.
Laenor is dead now, that's why Seasmoke is restless and Rhaenyra pauses and looks taken aback when Mysaria says that she thinks it's lonely. He died overseas recently and Rhaenyra just realized that through the fact that the mental bond is seemingly severed.
Rheaynera should not be hesistant to go to war after Lukes death since nothing has changed for her she wants peace and is trying to broker it. Her Character development has stalled and they are floundering to give her som agency. they should have made her more active in the war and not be sidelined.
I can understand now why early reviews said the show was meandering with these 4 episodes. they are really dragging this out with Rhaenyra being hesitant. and the whole sept scheme was absolutely ridiculously dumb. it makes no sense if Rhaenyra is able to enter or leave King's Landing without being killed or captured especially AFTER flashing a knife to Alicent as if she would kill her own friend too. so that should throw the whole "trying to make peace because they were friends, they won't kill each other" thing out the window at least from Alicent's perspective since she was LITERALLY threatened to be shanked directly by the person who was her friend. regardless if Rhaenyra would do it or not, from Alicent' perspective she was just threatened with being shanked. there is no "but we friends tho" after that whatsoever. and ESPECIALLY after Alicent's 6 year old grandson was just killed in his bed like 2 days ago this is now 2 instances that prove the royal family can be reached and potentially killed in King's Landing a city they're literally holding, either the Red Keep in their beds or in the sept Alicent should be absolutely terrified that Rhaenyra or anyone from the other side was able to get that close to her. if Rhaenyra could do it that means literally anyone else should be able to do the exact same thing they're also milking the entire "Rhaenyra's a mother" with tragic losses thing, dragging out the whole scene of her kissing her kids goodbye for literally like 10 minutes. the fact that they literally showed Rhaenyra kissing each of her younger children individually was complete nonsense especially from a pacing perspective. like come on, we don't need to see everyone of them individually. show one, then skip to the end please for the love of god
The writers should just give everyone glass candles so they can facetime each other instead of these elaborate schemes to get the characters to talk in kings landing.
that entire convoluted scheme may have been the dumbest thing I've ever seen on television or in a movie. I honestly can't think of anything else being that dumb it makes absolutely zero sense why Rhaenyra would be able to enter or leave King's Landing without being arrested or killed. especially after Rhaenyra flashed a knife to Alicent like she would shank her own childhood best friend, so that throws out the whole "they're friends they won't kill each other" thing at least to Alicent since RHAENYRA LITERALLY FLASHED A KNIFE TO HER. and especially after Alicent's 6 year old grandchild was killed like 2 days ago. literally makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
During the sept scene, in the background, you can hear "Gospodi pomiluj" chanting. Its from Christian ortodox service and it means Help us God. Really weird to hear my language in HotD :)
Yeah, for sure, they said he looked Dornish at the nameday tourney but they didn’t know him at the time. It’s been decades since then and they all should know by now he’s a Stormlander from the Dornish Marches where they guard the borderlands against those pesky Dornishmen. That’s what I’m saying.
The showwriters seems to treat the two queens as indecisive, confused, and passive. Kind of a big change and, ultimately, a miss compared with Fire and Blood.
Honestly, a story my elderly, history and prophecy consumed husband told me 10, 12 years ago while he was drunk and I had a toddler, a baby and a moody ex-GF/step-daughter to mind at a stupid hunt wouldn't exactly be a peak, important memory. Alicent has been listening to Vis ramble on about Valerya and prophecy and dragons since she was s kid. He probably told her WAY TOO MANY stories mixing history and the future and dreams and dragons, etc.
They refuse to give Rhen or Alis any agency whatsoever. They are terrified to allow either of these women to do anything considered bad or evil. It’s to the point it’s impacting the quality of the show with how far they are taking it.
Unforunately, at this point in the story Fire and Blood have Alicent and Rhaenyra doing jack shit. Rhaenyra doesn't really do anything until after the Battle of the Gullet, and Alicient barely does anything until the fall of KL.
yeah i heard princess weekes (youtuber) say this about s1. she was disappointed that alicent and rhaenyra weren't allowed to be ambitious or political players of their own accord. i was torn because i thought it was still interesting to see how being used as a pawn is mentally destructive for such a young girl, especially for alicent. but they've taken it a bit too far and i can really see that now
@@arvaakuka8568 well we're getting historical accounts from maesters. it's obviously going to be harder to find more 'likable' characters when all you see is fragmented and heavily biased views of their actions compared to POV chapters like in ASOIAF.
I would agree and add that cutting all the scheming from the story before Viserys' death and not making that part two seasons is this show's mistake. And also making Alicent and Rhaenyra peers and friends when they were an adult accusing a child of being a whore, when she arguably probably was one. But no they have to be friends it's more tragic that way even if it does make less sense.
Rheneara in the show just doesn’t seem written well to me. George writes morally grey characters, every one of them has some real deep flaw but show Rheneara is so squeaky clean in this it plays out like fan fiction more than anything. I hope they are working towards something other than she was perfect and everyone else is the problem
I’m actually a lil confused by this because I feel like Rheneara is borderline a piece of shit lol. I mean I’m rooting for her and Daemon because they are fun to root for, but, they are both bad people💀
I don’t mind kings landing being easy to sneak into. Like, you could probably very easily sneak into New York without much notice at all. However it’s no one having any sort of guard or retainer around them. Like in the books, besides the chambers is there a single instance where Cersei isn’t surrounded by kings guard, Lannister retinues, ladies in waiting, various consolers, and other randoms who want to be important?
Had a conversation with my buddy about Aegon II reminding us of Bush II. Id love to hang out and have a few brews with Bush II and Aegon II. They seem chummy and a good time. Simultaneously they are both terrible leaders lol
I found I resigned myself fairly quickly to the fact that the sept scene would happen and be stupid. And probably because by this point the show has conditioned me to do so, I accepted that the explanation would be stupid rather quickly, and watched the scene on its own merits putting aside the stupidness of it existing. And I loved the acting in the scene, so it kind of got a pass from me under something similar to the "rule of cool". All this to say I was kinda surprised that it didn't bother me, but I don't think it's at all invalid to be bothered by it :P
Aemond has nothing to do with Jesus. We see him like that to show that his outward personality is a front for insecurity. So then once we know that the brothel is Aemond only solace we have Aegon come in and ruin, which will probably lead to Aemond leaving for Rooks Rest. No idea how Preston got to Jesus, seems pretty obvious what the show is saying.
I still hold that we could have Jon fight the Night King in Season 8 - and have him get absolutely _destroyed_ (oh, and Ghost killed, if we are at it already). And just be left at the side, wounded and beaten bloody. The rest could even play out as it was, with Jon's contribution just being that he bought Arya and Bran time. If we had time, we could even see him try to grasp with why he was such a failure in his eyes... Edit: Funnily, that is actually precisely the role of the knight in quite a lot of actually medieval stories I have heard - his job was _not_ the killing blow, but take the beating so somebody else could sneak in...
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Kings Landing is super easy to sneak into. Just wear a cloak, cover your solid gold hand, or swim up like Euron. Make sure to avoid all the secret tunnels.
The scenes with seasmoke this season lead me to assume that Adamm will tame Seasmoke and the blacks will learn of dragon seeds and they will then search for more. Adamm looks ambitious staring up at seasmoke. Theres also the shot from the trailer of Rhaenyra and Adamm having that staredown with their dragons. When he tames, Rhaenyra probably flies out to confront him.
Lifetime appointment for a Supreme Judge is crucial believe me, writing from Turkey, when they are not, they fear from the government in decision making process, lifetime appointment is much better than the option that Judges fear that what will my next appointment be if I go with the wrong decision for government
Agree that S02E2 is the best episode of the show so far, but I'm baffled that they decided to end it on more Alicent and Christian Cole sex instead of the twin fight.
@@blondymonk1535 Nothing wrong with Alicent ignoring her crying child to get some dick. It's characterization for her. It's just a really weak way to cap off an episode compared to a dramatic fight wherein two characters die.
@@slingshot3615 that's a bit disproven by how much they severely botched and fumbled Blood & Cheese. it was still horrific, but not nearly as impactful whatsoever as what George wrote. the fact that George didn't write such a great story specifically for these intermediate parts of the war just means the show literally has to ass pull most of this stuff, and we are seeing how ridiculous it can be with something like Rhaenyra going to King's Landing just to have a conversation with Alicent in the sept without getting arrested or killed
Palestinians survived 4 years of trump and the funding for the PA being cut but over 40,000 Palestinians we're murdered under Biden's watch and full support and only God knows how many are buried under the rubble that have not been accounted for final death toll could be over 100,000 easy if you think that's forgivable because because you're worried funding being cut then you're the moron with no integrity or forward thinking ability
Rhaenyra says that only recently has Seasmoke become lonely. While this could be because Laenor has moved significantly far away, its also perhaps more likely that Laenor has recently died. His dragon feels his lack of presence. Rhaenyra has a moment where she appears to consider why only recently Seasmoke is restless. I will send this as a super chat next week
I think that having Rheanyra and Allicent realize that Vyserys never changed his mind before a full fledged war breaks out was way less impacful. If they were to realize that all of this death and destruction was caused by a misunderstanding after the fact, it would mean so much more to the plot.
Autistics "mask" which is almost an act in order to communicate effectively. I enjoy masking sometimes other times it's very draining. Those with autism avoid eye contact because it's unsettling or uncomfortable but they are able to do it. I'm on the spectrum and for the most part you couldn't tell that I am. Hellaena might or might not be... 🤷♂️
Oh, I am oh Alicent missed a huge opportunity but to be Rhaenyra missed twice as badly. I’ll explain: 1. When it seemed as though the conversation between her and Romero was about to end, if I was Allison, I would’ve tried to find a way to head to the train, and on that path told one of the guards in order to have them cease Rhaenyra. She is the pivotal piece on the chessboard of the blacks, and it would be insane not to have captured her to at the very least hold her hostage and force terms of surrender on to team black. 2. Rhaenyra was foolish because she should’ve known at the very least with her brother Aegon as King, Alicent would have no power nor control to sway the decisions of team green because she would also have to assume that her father Otto Hightower is still there as well. And in between the two Alicent‘s control has ceased. 3. To me the double mistake by Rhaenyra if not, the biggest mistake of all, is that Rhaenyra could’ve just as easily done the same thing as my first point with Alicent, where if the talks of a parlay seemed to be going nowhere, then she could just as easily have taken that knife covered her mouth and snuck her out of the Cept onto the boat and back to Dragon Stone and kept Allison as a hostage, in order to possibly force terms and the surrender of team green.
@Preston/Carmine You like & mention Martin’s affinity for parallels & symmatr. Well, Larys is DEFINITELY helping Rhaenyra, the TRUE heir. In that same sense, Varys is helping Aegon VI, the alleged true heir. IF you’re going to parallel the two, wouldn’t this make that true? The directors surely wanted us to notice Larys in the Black Council scene, despite Aegon going crazing yelling, but the camera focuses in on Larys. It’s not even subtle. So say you? Is Aegon VI the true heir from ASOIAF original story? Do you dismiss it as impossible?
Aegon VI, like Rhaenyra, probably will claim the crown for a short time until he’s eaten by her nephew Aegon II’s dragon, just like Aegon VI might be eaten by his aunt dragon himself. I see a parallel.
I love Preston’s ASOIAF content, but his political takes stink of someone who has the most surface level understanding of things it’s kinda crazy. I guess we all have those things that we invest deeply into and learn a ton about, and those that we don’t. I guess it’s the confidence he talks about that irks me. Like why talk like an authority if you don’t actually get it?
I feel like most part of the episode is so great, I just don't care about the ridicilousness at the end. As long as it doesn't distract from the main story to much. Loved Harrenhall and how weird and mistique it is. Hope to see more of these dragonseeds and secret Targaryen bastards. And I can't wait for Aemond to snap again🔥🔥🔥🔥
Carmine is the 1st to observe, the show is going out of its way to show Rhaeneyra as a sympathetic keeper of peace…and it’s not working. Her character appears rather pathetic.
@@iliaponomarev1624 exactly you have to let your brain rest for how it is even possible or that Alicent wouldn’t yell for the guards right away and enjoy the great acting
@matthewheywood8532 well, they kinda lampshaded the non-yelling thing with "you yell - I kill you". But it's still hard to get over the fact Rhaenyra's idea to go to King's Landing to talk to Alicent is very, very, very stupid on so many levels.
@@iliaponomarev1624 it’s not the smartest plan to say the least . I understand why it’s done though considering in the books they do nothing at this point so it’s to give them something to do
yeah it's hard to just let something go that was so enormously stupid and illogical. especially in this universe George created. or in any universe where two opposing sides are in conflict for the same position and AFTER killing people on both sides let alone children of the head figure of each side. it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. so it's incredibly difficult to just let it go and accept it for the great acting, because it was so completely ridiculous and unrealistic to begin with and the fact that Rhaenyra flashes a knife to Alicent as if she would shank her childhood best friend should throw out the entire "they were friends they won't kill each other" idea at least from Alicent's perspective because she was literally DIRECTLY threatened with being shanked BY the person who was her friend. Alicent should be absolutely terrified that this is the second instance I assume in the same week that someone was able to get this close to her or the royal family to kill literally her grandchild or potentially kill Alicent herself. it is absolutely ridiculous
Why don’t they just send Baela with her crossbow to assassinate Aegon from a distance? With her sniper rifle level accuracy of seeing things from a distance, she’ll be able to pinpoint him from several miles away. 😂
The show literally shows how she got close to them and that's how she recognised it's Criston. She got close because her job is patrolling movements. Did you even watch the scene? "Huh a dozen riders on the kingsroad during a wartime, I bet they are just hedge knights. No reason to verify."
FFS if you're going to comment about a character being "autistic" please take 5 minutes to learn what that actually means. Helaena's character was *very* consistent this episode.
I actually dont mind Allicent not remembering, or understanding as i saw it, what Viserys told her around a bon fire drunk when she was 17 yrs old. Or however old she was, she was a child still regardless. Like...if i were her...id probably be thinking he had too much to drank and wasnt making sense, and that by the end, he wanted an Aegon on the throne instead. Like.. wouldnt even remember that drunken night. To me, its the fact her mentioning the prince who was promised instills doubt in both, after Rhaenyra tries to play it off as an old story about Aegon the Conqueror. Neither doubted their positions. I know it was from history book and history is muddled with biases, but....certain parts never changed no matter the perspective, and biases. And both of them feeling in the right without doubt was one of those parts. Also, people who keep pointing out its supposed to be read like a history book dont really understand how historians gather their info on history, especially history only 300 yrs old with tons of writing to at least back up what we find. History is written the way it is to include all persectives...yes...while making clear note of who was on whose side, who was even alive and knew them, or how close to that time they were alive, and HOW biased they are. Take Elizabeth I. There were a LOT of rumors, and we see them all portrayed in different shows and media. Historians will point out those rumors, but also they will point out this person who said this lived in this era and supported this person, who was opposed to this person, which was conncted to Elizabeth in this way, and therefore was more likely a smear campaign against the family as a whole. But theyll also say, this person, while clear doesnt lets go with her mom, Anne, who doesnt like Anne very much, is very clearly giving their opinion, but is still being honest, as they show praise where appropriate, and other events that could be seen as smear or otherwise are backed up by very obvious non biased parties writing of the same thing. Basically, you have sources that are heavily baised, and cant be more obvious, that you take with a grain of salt. Then there are sources who may have biases, but are proven to be honest by other accounts discussing the same thing. They will tell you when something is more likely not true and why, and will tell you something is very likely true, because trustworthy sources also claim validity. And THATS how you treat a history book. The unreliable sources you push out of your head, and the ones who are trustworthy, you assume is more likely telling the truth of the matter. So if thats how you read a history book, then a good chunk of this story isnt being considered for the wrong reasons. Oh, and right, and if something is written about by multiple sources, in the time period, all over, you can bet its probably true. Like the well known death of a king or prince. No one questions if Prince Arthur died of a sickness. It wasnt a secret, and well known by MANY at that time. When sources all agree on something, you can assume it more than likely happened.
Fire and blood is NOT accurate. Why are you talking about timelines ?? You guys need up your game it seems like you are unable to discuss an unreliable plot line/pov/ narrative/narrator 😭
Chevron is-er-was-about court deference to the expertise of government agencies concerning matters within their agency’s field/enabling legislation. So much for that.
@@Cletusvandammm I like Jacobs. I watch his videos often. I really didn’t like his arguments and the whole election discussion. I commented on it in a respectful manner. Don’t see a problem with that
So is it now confirmed that Milly Alcock to the HOTD showrunners is as to Jason Momoa was to D&D...gotta bring em back in S2 for a vision scene so we can party.
dumbest vision scene I've ever seen. no only was it creepy to me for Daemon to be seeing child Rhaenyra in the first place, it was just completely cringe and goofy
On a meta level I get why they had it as a scene. The show has made the two’s relationship a core aspect of its drama. And in the source material I don’t think they ever see each other again so they added this bit in to let the two actors ham it up. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s an absurdly dangerous and just dumb thing to do in-universe
You do realize she has a lower approval rating than Biden’s low approval rating right now? And she failed to win more than 1% of the vote during the primary? She’s a DEI VP and unfortunately there is no replacing or bypassing her because she’s such a “diverse” and “historical” figure. Hahaha 😂
It seems like nobody in these comments actually like the show and I wonder if Preston likes anything to do with ASOIAF considering that all I ever hear on this channel are complaints, quibbles, and criticism.
I am a longtime subscriber and viewer who has been turned off by the constant whining. I loved his earlier theory videos especially the breakdown of Brienne's and Bran's stories and their themes. But the constant negativity is such a downer that I don't think I will be watching anymore.
So no concerns about spoilers at all? just come out with them not even a warning? Sucks, I was hoping to listen to your thoughts on this season but I really don't want major plot threads just casually spoiled. Rude
it's not like it's from leaks, the story is already there in Fire and Blood. I would think Preston goes by the assumption that his viewers are book readers. (there's also no guarantee the book story will be anything the same as the show) ALSO if you watch the original GoT there's the biggest spoiler possible for the ending of HotD sooo you probably already knew and forgot
I know it's in the book, I haven't read it and really enjoy not knowing what's coming, there are plenty of book adaptation tv shows that could be spoiled by yt creators but they generally don't out of consideration for their audience. If you wanna talk spoilers then that's fine but maybe have a warning at the beginning, and it sucks too cause now I can't listen to Prestons reaction to hot d unless I want everything spoiled.
Ambushes are a basic military tactic that rely upon knowing where the enemy is going to be. Every military man would know that and know that the way to avoid being ambushed is to make sure the enemy *doesn't* know where you're going to be. That's all that "CIA training" is. Basic ambush avoidance.
I would say Aemond and his brothel worker reminding you of Mary holding Jesus is very much readable as a mother holding her son. So It's not about evoking the image of Aemond as Jesus but the image of the relationship between the two, which very much has maternal conotations
Totally, I also thought the symbolism is more focused on the sex-worker lady as a mother (with a tragic destiny related may be)
Viserys didnt talk about Aegon's dream in s1 e3, he talked about his own dream. He never talked about the "song of ice of fire" or "the prince that was promised"
Alicent's sept routine wasnt from Rhaenyra's memory she literally asked Mysaria about where/when to go to meet her.
Didn't Preston also get hung up about Blood being at the gate I thought that was also pretty clearly Mysaria... CIA's got him working overtime I guess.
Preston has… issues with S1E3 for reasons that continue to elude me.
I’m just lucky we didn’t get a refresher on how Viserys was irredeemably evil because he “never thought” he’d have another son. 😑
@@Longshanks1690 I think it was that Viserys said he'd never get married again
Preston's most complaints, are all him not paying attention to any details and missing out on details that's already presented in the show.... He already did it in the episode 1 after show... I didn't finish last episodes after show and now I think I'm also not going to continue this one.
Yes. Those things are synonyms for aegon’s dream! Good job!
Preston I think you’re looking way too far into the Jesus statue thing. This is an issue that you have with a lot of your content, in that in your mind you noticed the similarity between the statue and the pose and thus concluded “oh wow so that means the scene is supposed to have all of the symbolism of the statue”.
Besides a passing similarity of a mother figure holding a smaller person there is no comparison and no correlation between the statue and Aemond besides one in which you choose to interpret it, lol. It was clearly a scene meant to show that the woman is a comfort figure for Aemond, and which he got mocked for by Aegon in the third episode. There is literally nothing there about Aemond being a Christ figure besides that you noticed a similarity between the scene and the statue and concluded “oh so they’re definitely portraying Aemond as Jesus and the prostitute as Mary” based on literally nothing outside of a comparison you made of a statue you’re aware of and which the creators wouldn’t possibly expect viewers to conclude.
Not sure if you were joking or not but, cmon man, they obviously are not trying to say Aemond is Jesus or a Christ analogue
To the statue, the idea of a mother comforting her son is the primary message beyond the religious symbolism. That is what makes it a powerful image after-all, and the goal of renaissance religious art was often to capture the human elements of the Bible stories. Such as, for instance, a mother comforting her beleaguered son. That is a universal message, and a scene which depicts a similar scene of comfort should first be compared to a mother’s care rather than a specific renaissance statue about Jesus
Much love, you’re my favorite ASOIAF creator, but you’re stretching way too far there lol
I just assumed that Aemond has Freudian mommy issues
I love Preston, but he often seems to miss the forest for the trees so to speak.
Oh come on!
I've seen plenty of people pointing out that this is a Pieta.
Preston seems to sometimes come up with a conclusion and then afterwards look for evidence supporting it. And it’s also a bit silly to think that Michelangelo invented the idea of lying in a mother’s lap
I really hope Preston reads this comment bc you are 100% right
Can we appreciate how show Baelor apparently didn’t love the Faith that much because the old Sept is way nicer
Didn't even think of that. Also Hugh Hammer seems to skip a generation? Says Baelon was the brother of Daemon and Viserys? Or did I mishear?
@@timocruz510 I think you misheard. Also, that wasn't Hugh. Hugh was the smith guy, I'm pretty sure.
You're thinking of Ulf White, who claimed to Baelon, the brave's son and the brother to Daemon and Viserys@timocruz510
The Grand Sept looks MASSIVE and has huge bulb-like domes. I thought maybe the statues were unique to Baelor's Sept, but the Grand Sept has those too...
@@b_a_z_e_dv.2.067 Oh yes know that in the Books, but I thought in the show they've been following around Hugh in King's Landing - talking to Aegon, scene at home, scene at the tavern. In the tavern scene pretty sure doesn't Hugh say that his dad was Baelon, who he says was brother to Viserys/Daemon? When obviously in the books he is the father
Preston saying he enjoyed 95% of the episode but complaining during 95% of the time :p
He loves bitching
@@onetwothreefourfive12345 there were a lot of dumb things about the episode to rightfully complain about
You can enjoy dumb writing and acknowledge it's dumb.
You clearly haven't been here long 😂 that's classic preston. We are all here for it haha
@@b1bbscraz3y I'd say the end was ridiculous, though inconsequential. Also don't love the whole Rhaenyra and Alicent are kinda cool with each other and don't really want war angle when in the book they just hate each other
Daemon initially just kinda lurking around Harrenhal after everyone sees his dragon was kinda dumb, and the brothel scene was extra but other than that thought the episode was really good. Simon Strong killed his scene.
Well, in the books Aegon II. is disguised as peasant to get out of Kings Landing. He has burns on his body so he shoud be easilly recognised. Then he gets to Dragonstone by fishboat (same as Rhaenyra) and hidd in the castle. This is much more absurde than the ending of this episode
no it is not. it can be absurd in its own right. but it is in no way whatsoever more absurd than Rhaenyra getting that close to Alicent making herself known and leaving King's Landing without getting arrested or killed. it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. especially after Rhaenyra flashed a knife to Alicent like she would shank her own childhood best friend. that should throw the whole "they won't kill each other they're friends" thing out the window, at least from Alicent's perspective since she was LITERALLY just directly threatened with being shanked by the person who was her childhood best friend. and especially AFTER Alicent's 6 year old grandson was just killed IN HIS BED like 2 days before this. it makes absolutely no sense. Alicent should be terrified that this was the second instance in the same week that someone was able to get this close to members of the royal family INSIDE King's Landing INSIDE the Red Keep and INSIDE the sept to be that close to her. no logic whatsoever
@@b1bbscraz3y Yeah that knife was probably bit too much. But I still think that the scene is really good. It adds alot to the story. Alicent and Rhaenyra are doing nothing in the book, even tho they are main characters. Rhaenyra wants to prevent the war and the onlyone who will hear her is Alicent, but she will not listen to her by messages so she has to meet her in person and explaine herself. As I already said the travel by fishboat happens even in the book so that shoudnt be the problem. It looks like to me that the knife incident happens because Rhaenyra is a bit stresed and as she herself said it was a mistake and she starts the conversation over again. And that Alicent didnt make her arrested is because she belives that Rhaenyra didnt killed her gradson and really dont want the war to happen. But yeah I also undestand your point of view
Exactly. I feel like because they don’t have an official story to go by they are now over criticising the episodes. Holding them to a much higher standard
Pretty sure Larys was the one who smuggled him to dragonstone. That lessens the absurdity of it a lot, as he's the city spymaster and the only ppl who'd see/recognise Aegon are ones who'd work for Larys
@@macnsteez3938 And here it's Mysaria who helped her to smuggle into the city so its still at least the same absurdity.
Well Simon Strong gave a 'strong' performance because he was played by one of the ‘strong’est stage actors of this generation Sir Simon Russell Beale.
I don't really get why Alicent is considered to be important. Nobody ever listened to her.
Why does she have a place at small council? She's not a master of anything and doesn't have a good relationship with the king either
Why does Raenyra think Alicent can do something? Alicent goes like "iT's ToO lAtE" but nobody would care what she says even before that
Kind of what she meant by saying it's too late. She couldnt stop it even if she wanted to
@@zifircin1797 too late means she could do something earlier. And she couldn't
Rhaenyra thinks that because Rhaenyra is delusional. Her show version is 100% the daughter of Viserys: indecisive, weak, refusing to take action and constantly engaging in magical thinking, believing there is still a peaceful solution somehow even though everyone around her (except Rhaenys) tries telling her there isn't.
I feel especially bad for her council who keeps trying to get her back to reality, only to be accused of disloyalty and treason because Rhaenyra (and Rhaenys) don't like to hear the truth.
@@TheHellyeahmen she maybe could have before aegon was crowned
@@zifircin1797 before that she was a puppet of her dad. She only realized it at the end of the season
Alicent was never told about the Song of Ice and Fire. Viserys told her he dreamed he would have a son.
He told her the Targaryen line received prophetic dreams, and that he received one - a boy wearing the conquerer's crown - and his insecurity about succession involved it. Then, on his death bed, he mentions the Song of Ice and Fire, the Prince that was Promised, and the succession issue.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobinhe did not coherently assert all of this into informing her about “Aegon’s dream of the prince who was promised”. He talked about a desire and hope for a male heir, and then mumbled about the prince who was promised and Aegon when he died. He did not outline the specific prophecy to Alicent as he did to Rhaenyra, in that Aegon had a dream about uniting the realm against a threat and that the prince who was promised would arrive.
That is why Alicent thinks of his deathbed mumbles in relevant terms such as him talking about preferring Aegon for the throne rather than an existential prophecy. No clue why you can’t see that and are instead focusing on the fact that Alicent heard the words “The prince who was promised”, which has no context without a relevant explanation. She does not have a full image of the prophecy just because she’s heard the words from Viserys before
I thought seasmoke being restless implied that Laenor died somehow? Just a guess
Maybe, I dont think they will ever reveal what happened to Laenor, it could also be that the connection between Dragon and Rider is not globe spanning. So him being too far away from Seasmoke for too long is similar to him having died
No. Preston has his own idea on it and every other theory is wrong!
When Alys said you will die here, i think they were on the edge of the lake. After the battle, Caraxes crawled to edge near Harrenhal, perhaps Daemon was with him.
Me when a magic lady doesn't specify the exact spot (preferably within a 5 foot radius) of where I will die.
I fucking love how much fun Trey has doing these game of thrones discussions ❤
1:53:40 pretty sure thats just confirmation bias, you only notice the wigs you notice so you think you see them all, when a good one could pass you by without realising.
That Dearon theory falls flat immediately because he is a dragon rider
Rhaenyra accuses her war council of treason merely for advising her to leave them, only to then immediately leave on her own accord on a foolish and highly dangerous mission, that results in Alicent telling her the exact same thing her war council already told her: "there is no way back, stop being silly and start living in the real world".
She's a pretty bad queen and she gets worse the more she listens to Rhaenys, who seems to love accusing Rhaenyra's advisors of disloyalty merely for giving advice she disagrees with.
Show Rhaenyra and Book Rhaenyra are completely different characters at this point though. Book Rhaenyra was female Daemon, but Show Rhaenyra is female Viserys: weak, indecisive, refusing to accept reality and unwilling to listen to the smarter people around her who give her pretty good advice (apart from Rhaenys obviously).
I was completely stoned watching the episode and could not believe some of the dumb things I was seeing. I was trying to convince myself that I was way too high and that I was tripping or hallucinating. but nope. when I saw Rhaenyra sit right next to Alicent and flash a knife to her, I literally said this cannot be real there is no way they actually filmed this
@@b1bbscraz3y lol yep was real dumb but at least it's better than S7 and S8 of GOT and the Arya Braavos plot
@@timocruz510 I'm not sure it was better. for those at least the lack of logic wasn't as detrimental from a character to character standpoint. but this just defies all logic whatsoever given the context of being on opposing sides fighting for the same position, and both sides having already killed children of the heads of each side whether by mistake or not. literally days after Alicent's grandchild was murdered in his bed. there is zero logic to it
@@b1bbscraz3y I mean you can justify it at least a little bit. Arya would straight die from that. No questions asked. End of story. The fact she somehow survived was a slap in the face to the viewer.
This, though really stupid, has at least some form of justification to make it at least possible
Book Rhaenyra is female Daemon? What are you talking about?
At this point in F&B Rhaenyra isn’t doing shit. She doesn’t do much of anything between the death of Luke and the death of Jace.
Why does the show have the castellan of Harrenhall explaining to daemon who the lord of the riverlands is? Like I get it on a meta level so the audience is keyed in, but telling daemon that the lord of the riverlands is a Tully is the equivalent of explaining to a congressman who the president is. They’ve probably met.
Funnily enough, both of them can no longer speak and can barely seal their bowels /s
This is just like when Rhaenys koolaided through the door and then doesn't kill everyone - why didn't Alicent just act like she was walking away and then when she was safe yell out that Rhaenyra was there? Alicent's character would FOR SURE want to save all the bloodshed.
This is why these convoluted "sneak into kings landing because we need a key character conversation" ruins the suspension of disbelief. Great acting ruined by stupid plot devices.
“Well you better keep on reading” -GRRM
Well he better keep writing then!
Rhaenyra got in on wearing a cloak this episode
You can't go wrong with a cloak.
My money is on Rhaenys getting the Kings landing field trip next episode.
Laenor is dead now, that's why Seasmoke is restless and Rhaenyra pauses and looks taken aback when Mysaria says that she thinks it's lonely. He died overseas recently and Rhaenyra just realized that through the fact that the mental bond is seemingly severed.
Rheaynera should not be hesistant to go to war after Lukes death since nothing has changed for her she wants peace and is trying to broker it. Her Character development has stalled and they are floundering to give her som agency. they should have made her more active in the war and not be sidelined.
I can understand now why early reviews said the show was meandering with these 4 episodes. they are really dragging this out with Rhaenyra being hesitant. and the whole sept scheme was absolutely ridiculously dumb. it makes no sense if Rhaenyra is able to enter or leave King's Landing without being killed or captured especially AFTER flashing a knife to Alicent as if she would kill her own friend too. so that should throw the whole "trying to make peace because they were friends, they won't kill each other" thing out the window
at least from Alicent's perspective since she was LITERALLY threatened to be shanked directly by the person who was her friend. regardless if Rhaenyra would do it or not, from Alicent' perspective she was just threatened with being shanked. there is no "but we friends tho" after that whatsoever. and ESPECIALLY after Alicent's 6 year old grandson was just killed in his bed like 2 days ago
this is now 2 instances that prove the royal family can be reached and potentially killed in King's Landing a city they're literally holding, either the Red Keep in their beds or in the sept
Alicent should be absolutely terrified that Rhaenyra or anyone from the other side was able to get that close to her. if Rhaenyra could do it that means literally anyone else should be able to do the exact same thing
they're also milking the entire "Rhaenyra's a mother" with tragic losses thing, dragging out the whole scene of her kissing her kids goodbye for literally like 10 minutes. the fact that they literally showed Rhaenyra kissing each of her younger children individually was complete nonsense especially from a pacing perspective. like come on, we don't need to see everyone of them individually. show one, then skip to the end please for the love of god
surpised They diddn't talk about Larys walking and pretending to be normal in the background this episode
The writers should just give everyone glass candles so they can facetime each other instead of these elaborate schemes to get the characters to talk in kings landing.
Most of Corly’s fortune comes from laying down underwater weirwood cable roots so that Weateros and Essos can talk to each other over the weirwoodnet.
don't know why that hit me so hard lol
that entire convoluted scheme may have been the dumbest thing I've ever seen on television or in a movie. I honestly can't think of anything else being that dumb
it makes absolutely zero sense why Rhaenyra would be able to enter or leave King's Landing without being arrested or killed. especially after Rhaenyra flashed a knife to Alicent like she would shank her own childhood best friend, so that throws out the whole "they're friends they won't kill each other" thing at least to Alicent since RHAENYRA LITERALLY FLASHED A KNIFE TO HER. and especially after Alicent's 6 year old grandchild was killed like 2 days ago. literally makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
@@b1bbscraz3yyou have not watched enough media if you think that takes the cake
@@caydenl.4878 I have seen a ton of movies and shows. logically speaking, I cannot think of anything
During the sept scene, in the background, you can hear "Gospodi pomiluj" chanting. Its from Christian ortodox service and it means Help us God. Really weird to hear my language in HotD :)
It means "Lord have mercy".
Most mainline Christians will know it as the opening words of the Kyrie Eleison.
Anyone else pick up on Gwain Hightower calling Cole a Dornishman? He’s a Stormlander for f’s sake….
They called him Dornish in Season 1 Episode 1 as well.
not gonna lie I don't like Cole but Alicent giving him that little cloth was kind of cute
Yeah, for sure, they said he looked Dornish at the nameday tourney but they didn’t know him at the time. It’s been decades since then and they all should know by now he’s a Stormlander from the Dornish Marches where they guard the borderlands against those pesky Dornishmen. That’s what I’m saying.
lol yep especially weird since Dorne isn't even part of the Seven Kingdoms at that point...
I think they make him Dornish in the show
The showwriters seems to treat the two queens as indecisive, confused, and passive. Kind of a big change and, ultimately, a miss compared with Fire and Blood.
Honestly, a story my elderly, history and prophecy consumed husband told me 10, 12 years ago while he was drunk and I had a toddler, a baby and a moody ex-GF/step-daughter to mind at a stupid hunt wouldn't exactly be a peak, important memory. Alicent has been listening to Vis ramble on about Valerya and prophecy and dragons since she was s kid. He probably told her WAY TOO MANY stories mixing history and the future and dreams and dragons, etc.
They refuse to give Rhen or Alis any agency whatsoever.
They are terrified to allow either of these women to do anything considered bad or evil.
It’s to the point it’s impacting the quality of the show with how far they are taking it.
That's the problem with a story with no likable characters. It's George's fault really.
Unforunately, at this point in the story Fire and Blood have Alicent and Rhaenyra doing jack shit.
Rhaenyra doesn't really do anything until after the Battle of the Gullet, and Alicient barely does anything until the fall of KL.
yeah i heard princess weekes (youtuber) say this about s1. she was disappointed that alicent and rhaenyra weren't allowed to be ambitious or political players of their own accord. i was torn because i thought it was still interesting to see how being used as a pawn is mentally destructive for such a young girl, especially for alicent. but they've taken it a bit too far and i can really see that now
@@arvaakuka8568 well we're getting historical accounts from maesters. it's obviously going to be harder to find more 'likable' characters when all you see is fragmented and heavily biased views of their actions compared to POV chapters like in ASOIAF.
I would agree and add that cutting all the scheming from the story before Viserys' death and not making that part two seasons is this show's mistake. And also making Alicent and Rhaenyra peers and friends when they were an adult accusing a child of being a whore, when she arguably probably was one. But no they have to be friends it's more tragic that way even if it does make less sense.
i'd love to be preston and never be wrong about anything
Rheneara in the show just doesn’t seem written well to me. George writes morally grey characters, every one of them has some real deep flaw but show Rheneara is so squeaky clean in this it plays out like fan fiction more than anything. I hope they are working towards something other than she was perfect and everyone else is the problem
Me too
I’m actually a lil confused by this because I feel like Rheneara is borderline a piece of shit lol. I mean I’m rooting for her and Daemon because they are fun to root for, but, they are both bad people💀
Yep gonna love to see how they handle Nettles/Tyland
Guessing it's going to be everyone else's fault...
Trey is so goated, show got a lot better when he started showing up regularly
I'd trade carmine for Trey in a heart beat.
I don’t mind kings landing being easy to sneak into. Like, you could probably very easily sneak into New York without much notice at all.
However it’s no one having any sort of guard or retainer around them. Like in the books, besides the chambers is there a single instance where Cersei isn’t surrounded by kings guard, Lannister retinues, ladies in waiting, various consolers, and other randoms who want to be important?
Had a conversation with my buddy about Aegon II reminding us of Bush II. Id love to hang out and have a few brews with Bush II and Aegon II. They seem chummy and a good time. Simultaneously they are both terrible leaders lol
Youd still vote biden over trump, but doesnt that apply to everyone? Id vote Cheese or Aegon 2 over Trump, but that doesnt make them good candidates
The weirwood dragon cyvasse piece in the Tyrion sample chapter definitely represents Jon. He’s the hidden dragon that the weirwood player is guiding.
I found I resigned myself fairly quickly to the fact that the sept scene would happen and be stupid. And probably because by this point the show has conditioned me to do so, I accepted that the explanation would be stupid rather quickly, and watched the scene on its own merits putting aside the stupidness of it existing. And I loved the acting in the scene, so it kind of got a pass from me under something similar to the "rule of cool". All this to say I was kinda surprised that it didn't bother me, but I don't think it's at all invalid to be bothered by it :P
Aemond has nothing to do with Jesus. We see him like that to show that his outward personality is a front for insecurity. So then once we know that the brothel is Aemond only solace we have Aegon come in and ruin, which will probably lead to Aemond leaving for Rooks Rest. No idea how Preston got to Jesus, seems pretty obvious what the show is saying.
Placing bets on Daemon burning the King’s Landing weirwood after being traumatized by the Harrenhal weirwood
I still hold that we could have Jon fight the Night King in Season 8 - and have him get absolutely _destroyed_ (oh, and Ghost killed, if we are at it already). And just be left at the side, wounded and beaten bloody. The rest could even play out as it was, with Jon's contribution just being that he bought Arya and Bran time. If we had time, we could even see him try to grasp with why he was such a failure in his eyes...
Edit: Funnily, that is actually precisely the role of the knight in quite a lot of actually medieval stories I have heard - his job was _not_ the killing blow, but take the beating so somebody else could sneak in...
I kept hearing your name from the dragon demand and I'm so glad I did . I now know where I'll be after every episode thank you good sir u just gained a new sub and a like for all your videos . Now I got more to listen to and catch up on during my commutes to and from work in the elevator industry . Also during down time and free time
Hiii, carmine mentioned something about preston reviewing an ai generated davos chapter. Does anyone know where I can find this livestream/video?
> Aemond walking naked
Oh, I get it now! It's a reference to Terminator movies. Also, Aemond's one unnatural eye!
Glad to see Preston was as frustrated as i was 😂 had a ton of fun watching but that last scene had me rolling my eyes soooo hard
This episode was ghostwritten by D&D.
Just about to watch the stream and I've just finished Ep3, again, really enjoyed it, they're doing a great job with this season so far.
Trump rped a woman? what? He wasnt even convicted for election interference lol. I thought Preston knows his politics.
2 whole episodes have aired without a Chad Summerchild parody episode. I need Chad
Oh they’re doing it again.
Wear a cloak.
Whenever explainer the trey comes on im very pleased.
Not only was her sneaking in batshit stupid but she also got there in five seconds.
Kings Landing is super easy to sneak into. Just wear a cloak, cover your solid gold hand, or swim up like Euron. Make sure to avoid all the secret tunnels.
This took a *very* interesting turn
The scenes with seasmoke this season lead me to assume that Adamm will tame Seasmoke and the blacks will learn of dragon seeds and they will then search for more. Adamm looks ambitious staring up at seasmoke. Theres also the shot from the trailer of Rhaenyra and Adamm having that staredown with their dragons. When he tames, Rhaenyra probably flies out to confront him.
You wouldn't BELIEVE how here i am for this wig/weave discussion
Lifetime appointment for a Supreme Judge is crucial believe me, writing from Turkey, when they are not, they fear from the government in decision making process, lifetime appointment is much better than the option that Judges fear that what will my next appointment be if I go with the wrong decision for government
Agree that S02E2 is the best episode of the show so far, but I'm baffled that they decided to end it on more Alicent and Christian Cole sex instead of the twin fight.
Should've ended with Aegon crying.
Just more Green hate...
@@blondymonk1535 Nothing wrong with Alicent ignoring her crying child to get some dick. It's characterization for her. It's just a really weak way to cap off an episode compared to a dramatic fight wherein two characters die.
You just know they're gonna f up rook's rest next episode, they're definitely not doing the things from the book
Not doing the thing from the book won’t make it inherently worse. George isn’t inherently a better storyteller for this story than the showrunners.
@slingshot3615
Yes. But the books tend to be more well thought out.
@@slingshot3615 that's a bit disproven by how much they severely botched and fumbled Blood & Cheese. it was still horrific, but not nearly as impactful whatsoever as what George wrote. the fact that George didn't write such a great story specifically for these intermediate parts of the war just means the show literally has to ass pull most of this stuff, and we are seeing how ridiculous it can be with something like Rhaenyra going to King's Landing just to have a conversation with Alicent in the sept without getting arrested or killed
Timestamping the Palestine thing bc yeah, I need to repeat this to many who believe 2:11:23
Palestinians survived 4 years of trump and the funding for the PA being cut but over 40,000 Palestinians we're murdered under Biden's watch and full support and only God knows how many are buried under the rubble that have not been accounted for final death toll could be over 100,000 easy if you think that's forgivable because because you're worried funding being cut then you're the moron with no integrity or forward thinking ability
Rhaenyra says that only recently has Seasmoke become lonely. While this could be because Laenor has moved significantly far away, its also perhaps more likely that Laenor has recently died. His dragon feels his lack of presence. Rhaenyra has a moment where she appears to consider why only recently Seasmoke is restless. I will send this as a super chat next week
I think that having Rheanyra and Allicent realize that Vyserys never changed his mind before a full fledged war breaks out was way less impacful. If they were to realize that all of this death and destruction was caused by a misunderstanding after the fact, it would mean so much more to the plot.
I did not have Preston and Trey talking about Evangelion on my bingo sheet
Chevron was bad law. It was logically inconsistent.
Thanks for the content 😊
Autistics "mask" which is almost an act in order to communicate effectively.
I enjoy masking sometimes other times it's very draining.
Those with autism avoid eye contact because it's unsettling or uncomfortable but they are able to do it.
I'm on the spectrum and for the most part you couldn't tell that I am.
Hellaena might or might not be... 🤷♂️
Oh, I am oh Alicent missed a huge opportunity but to be Rhaenyra missed twice as badly. I’ll explain:
1. When it seemed as though the conversation between her and Romero was about to end, if I was Allison, I would’ve tried to find a way to head to the train, and on that path told one of the guards in order to have them cease Rhaenyra. She is the pivotal piece on the chessboard of the blacks, and it would be insane not to have captured her to at the very least hold her hostage and force terms of surrender on to team black.
2. Rhaenyra was foolish because she should’ve known at the very least with her brother Aegon as King, Alicent would have no power nor control to sway the decisions of team green because she would also have to assume that her father Otto Hightower is still there as well. And in between the two Alicent‘s control has ceased.
3. To me the double mistake by Rhaenyra if not, the biggest mistake of all, is that Rhaenyra could’ve just as easily done the same thing as my first point with Alicent, where if the talks of a parlay seemed to be going nowhere, then she could just as easily have taken that knife covered her mouth and snuck her out of the Cept onto the boat and back to Dragon Stone and kept Allison as a hostage, in order to possibly force terms and the surrender of team green.
Anyone else notice Alys Rivers' American accent?
How the hell did nobody bring up Larys' meta line about George's gardening?
"Tales take on a life of their own, like weeds. Unless they are tended.":
21:31 late to this party, but to quote Funny or Die: “It’s not porn, it’s HBO.”
@Preston/Carmine
You like & mention Martin’s affinity for parallels & symmatr. Well, Larys is DEFINITELY helping Rhaenyra, the TRUE heir. In that same sense, Varys is helping Aegon VI, the alleged true heir. IF you’re going to parallel the two, wouldn’t this make that true? The directors surely wanted us to notice Larys in the Black Council scene, despite Aegon going crazing yelling, but the camera focuses in on Larys. It’s not even subtle. So say you? Is Aegon VI the true heir from ASOIAF original story? Do you dismiss it as impossible?
Aegon VI, like Rhaenyra, probably will claim the crown for a short time until he’s eaten by her nephew Aegon II’s dragon, just like Aegon VI might be eaten by his aunt dragon himself. I see a parallel.
Vortigern
Vercingetorix
Alcuin
Dragon names have often have a Gaulish/Anglo-Saxon vibe to me.
I love Preston’s ASOIAF content, but his political takes stink of someone who has the most surface level understanding of things it’s kinda crazy. I guess we all have those things that we invest deeply into and learn a ton about, and those that we don’t. I guess it’s the confidence he talks about that irks me. Like why talk like an authority if you don’t actually get it?
I feel like most part of the episode is so great, I just don't care about the ridicilousness at the end. As long as it doesn't distract from the main story to much. Loved Harrenhall and how weird and mistique it is. Hope to see more of these dragonseeds and secret Targaryen bastards. And I can't wait for Aemond to snap again🔥🔥🔥🔥
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i guess preston has not heard of lcafront wigs? or ever seen RPDR
I feel like aemond will
Have a opportunity to save aegon in the battle of rooks rest but after
Being mocked is going to let him get burned up!
Which is dumb...
I worked on Game of Thrones and I can reveal the fake beards in that used real human hair, at least my one did.
Biden or a lump of cheese and you pick Biden? 😅
PJ IS BACK FOMOS
the propecy should mention in the finale not every episode 😢. Im starting to hate the show.
Carmine is the 1st to observe, the show is going out of its way to show Rhaeneyra as a sympathetic keeper of peace…and it’s not working. Her character appears rather pathetic.
why yes, Alicent's Radiant AI has her going to sept at a set time each day. why do you ask?
That’s your beef?
She was doing her routine like a target in a Hitman mission
Jesus most certainly had mommy issues.
See Matthew 12: 46 - 50.
Once you let it go and accept that they just wanted Rheaynera and Alicent to meet the scene was good as they are two great actors .
It also felt like they really tried to make the scene somewhat believable. It was impossible, but they tried.
@@iliaponomarev1624 exactly you have to let your brain rest for how it is even possible or that Alicent wouldn’t yell for the guards right away and enjoy the great acting
@matthewheywood8532 well, they kinda lampshaded the non-yelling thing with "you yell - I kill you".
But it's still hard to get over the fact Rhaenyra's idea to go to King's Landing to talk to Alicent is very, very, very stupid on so many levels.
@@iliaponomarev1624 it’s not the smartest plan to say the least . I understand why it’s done though considering in the books they do nothing at this point so it’s to give them something to do
yeah it's hard to just let something go that was so enormously stupid and illogical. especially in this universe George created. or in any universe where two opposing sides are in conflict for the same position and AFTER killing people on both sides let alone children of the head figure of each side. it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. so it's incredibly difficult to just let it go and accept it for the great acting, because it was so completely ridiculous and unrealistic to begin with
and the fact that Rhaenyra flashes a knife to Alicent as if she would shank her childhood best friend should throw out the entire "they were friends they won't kill each other" idea at least from Alicent's perspective because she was literally DIRECTLY threatened with being shanked BY the person who was her friend. Alicent should be absolutely terrified that this is the second instance I assume in the same week that someone was able to get this close to her or the royal family to kill literally her grandchild or potentially kill Alicent herself. it is absolutely ridiculous
Why don’t they just send Baela with her crossbow to assassinate Aegon from a distance?
With her sniper rifle level accuracy of seeing things from a distance, she’ll be able to pinpoint him from several miles away. 😂
The dragon reacts first, and you can see the glint of sunlight off of their highly polished armour.
@@earlmason1954 And she knows this is for certain the LC from that distance and not just a hedge knight with OCD because…?
@@Longshanks1690 Because she literally gets close and sees him.
The show literally shows how she got close to them and that's how she recognised it's Criston. She got close because her job is patrolling movements. Did you even watch the scene?
"Huh a dozen riders on the kingsroad during a wartime, I bet they are just hedge knights. No reason to verify."
@@everhall306 so she was just divebombing random people from 8,000 feet on the off chance that they might turn out to be important?
FFS if you're going to comment about a character being "autistic" please take 5 minutes to learn what that actually means.
Helaena's character was *very* consistent this episode.
I actually dont mind Allicent not remembering, or understanding as i saw it, what Viserys told her around a bon fire drunk when she was 17 yrs old. Or however old she was, she was a child still regardless. Like...if i were her...id probably be thinking he had too much to drank and wasnt making sense, and that by the end, he wanted an Aegon on the throne instead. Like.. wouldnt even remember that drunken night. To me, its the fact her mentioning the prince who was promised instills doubt in both, after Rhaenyra tries to play it off as an old story about Aegon the Conqueror. Neither doubted their positions. I know it was from history book and history is muddled with biases, but....certain parts never changed no matter the perspective, and biases. And both of them feeling in the right without doubt was one of those parts.
Also, people who keep pointing out its supposed to be read like a history book dont really understand how historians gather their info on history, especially history only 300 yrs old with tons of writing to at least back up what we find. History is written the way it is to include all persectives...yes...while making clear note of who was on whose side, who was even alive and knew them, or how close to that time they were alive, and HOW biased they are.
Take Elizabeth I. There were a LOT of rumors, and we see them all portrayed in different shows and media. Historians will point out those rumors, but also they will point out this person who said this lived in this era and supported this person, who was opposed to this person, which was conncted to Elizabeth in this way, and therefore was more likely a smear campaign against the family as a whole. But theyll also say, this person, while clear doesnt lets go with her mom, Anne, who doesnt like Anne very much, is very clearly giving their opinion, but is still being honest, as they show praise where appropriate, and other events that could be seen as smear or otherwise are backed up by very obvious non biased parties writing of the same thing.
Basically, you have sources that are heavily baised, and cant be more obvious, that you take with a grain of salt. Then there are sources who may have biases, but are proven to be honest by other accounts discussing the same thing.
They will tell you when something is more likely not true and why, and will tell you something is very likely true, because trustworthy sources also claim validity.
And THATS how you treat a history book. The unreliable sources you push out of your head, and the ones who are trustworthy, you assume is more likely telling the truth of the matter.
So if thats how you read a history book, then a good chunk of this story isnt being considered for the wrong reasons.
Oh, and right, and if something is written about by multiple sources, in the time period, all over, you can bet its probably true. Like the well known death of a king or prince. No one questions if Prince Arthur died of a sickness. It wasnt a secret, and well known by MANY at that time.
When sources all agree on something, you can assume it more than likely happened.
Fire and blood is NOT accurate. Why are you talking about timelines ?? You guys need up your game it seems like you are unable to discuss an unreliable plot line/pov/ narrative/narrator 😭
Chevron is-er-was-about court deference to the expertise of government agencies concerning matters within their agency’s field/enabling legislation. So much for that.
A mid episode imho...
very mid
I’m disappoint to hear the arguments Jacobs uses for his political opinions
Get over it
You don't need to watch him
@@arvaakuka8568 you don’t need to reply to my comments. Yet you do.
@@Cletusvandammm I like Jacobs. I watch his videos often. I really didn’t like his arguments and the whole election discussion. I commented on it in a respectful manner. Don’t see a problem with that
What were his comments? And on which election@@abotapple
I didn’t think the last scene was that bad.
So is it now confirmed that Milly Alcock to the HOTD showrunners is as to Jason Momoa was to D&D...gotta bring em back in S2 for a vision scene so we can party.
As a sendoff to play a DC character.
@@bshaddo ...SO MANY PARALLELS 🤯
dumbest vision scene I've ever seen. no only was it creepy to me for Daemon to be seeing child Rhaenyra in the first place, it was just completely cringe and goofy
ooofff Preston, love you, uh but making fun of Milly's name is not a good look it comes off as creepy.
Relax, it’s a dick joke.
The last scene of Rhaenyra and Alicent just didn't work. Complete nonsense and the scene felt weird. They ruined a good episode with that shit.
So most of the episode was good?
I loved it
Wrong
On a meta level I get why they had it as a scene. The show has made the two’s relationship a core aspect of its drama. And in the source material I don’t think they ever see each other again so they added this bit in to let the two actors ham it up. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s an absurdly dangerous and just dumb thing to do in-universe
@@Cletusvandammm not wrong whatsoever. I would gladly point out the reasons why it was completely ridiculous
Worst episode so far
I do actually think Harris could get as many votes for Biden, maybe more if she reaches out to the youth vote, which helped Biden win in 2020.
You do realize she has a lower approval rating than Biden’s low approval rating right now? And she failed to win more than 1% of the vote during the primary? She’s a DEI VP and unfortunately there is no replacing or bypassing her because she’s such a “diverse” and “historical” figure. Hahaha 😂
It seems like nobody in these comments actually like the show and I wonder if Preston likes anything to do with ASOIAF considering that all I ever hear on this channel are complaints, quibbles, and criticism.
This your first time here?
I am a longtime subscriber and viewer who has been turned off by the constant whining. I loved his earlier theory videos especially the breakdown of Brienne's and Bran's stories and their themes. But the constant negativity is such a downer that I don't think I will be watching anymore.
So no concerns about spoilers at all? just come out with them not even a warning? Sucks, I was hoping to listen to your thoughts on this season but I really don't want major plot threads just casually spoiled. Rude
The title literally is episode 3 after party
This is not the channel to be on if you want to avoid book spoilers
it's not like it's from leaks, the story is already there in Fire and Blood. I would think Preston goes by the assumption that his viewers are book readers. (there's also no guarantee the book story will be anything the same as the show)
ALSO if you watch the original GoT there's the biggest spoiler possible for the ending of HotD sooo you probably already knew and forgot
I know it's in the book, I haven't read it and really enjoy not knowing what's coming, there are plenty of book adaptation tv shows that could be spoiled by yt creators but they generally don't out of consideration for their audience. If you wanna talk spoilers then that's fine but maybe have a warning at the beginning, and it sucks too cause now I can't listen to Prestons reaction to hot d unless I want everything spoiled.
@@PaulLunguMagic20 This is a book channel man...
worst episode yet.
Preston bitching about Alicent not having CIA training and calling it a stupid scene is beyong me.
She's a royal she definitely would have gotten a security brief at some point in time
Ambushes are a basic military tactic that rely upon knowing where the enemy is going to be.
Every military man would know that and know that the way to avoid being ambushed is to make sure the enemy *doesn't* know where you're going to be.
That's all that "CIA training" is. Basic ambush avoidance.