[3.3] Lorebits - The Origin of Words
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2023
- Trying a bit of a new format for ideas that never seem to fit into a proper theory or analysis video.
I'm mostly discussing a thought surrounding the reason behind why investigating the origin of words is forbidden by the Sumeru Akademiya. Not a fully-baked theory, just food for thought. - Hry
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Imagine reading a dictionary and Cyno shows up in your house and knocks your teeth out
Thank you for giving a possible connection between Faruzan's studies and her Darshan, I've been a little lost on that for a while now
Some scholar: decided to look up unfamiliar word
Al-Haitham: *FBI open up*
Scholar: googles intro python tutorial
Cyno: so you have chosen death
You joke, but I feel like if the traveler starts talking about their travels to other worlds they'll will unleash elazar and withering zones.
@@MrGamelover23 we've already told paimon about other worlds though?
The minute they mentioned “it’s illegal to study the origin of words” that IMMEDIATELY sent off warning bells for me…that’s….odd don’t you think? What secret would doing that uncover?
A secret that Celestia wants to stay hidden, one that maybe even drove King Deshret insane and initiated the downfall of Khaenri'ah
@@vergiltasev7108 was king deshret himself insane? Because he was sane enought to ask rukkahedetava. Combined with the fact that he weilded 7 elements, i think deshret was a descender and the reason why forbiden knoledge got to the public and caused the deshret kingdom downfall, is because deshret was not aware what forbiden knowledge does because he wasnt affected by it.
@@michapiasta3072 Where does it say that he wielded the 7 elements? And I seem to remember more that Rhukka noticed that Deshret's people weren't doing so well and then found the reason behind that.
Irl, the origin of language to an extent is forbidden to study, because it could evolve child abuse. Many have long wondered if language arose once or multiple times, and people have considered getting an isolated group of babies to try this out with, but a linguistically deprived, isolated group of babies would suffer, not just from being exposed to the elements, but also from linguistic deprivation potentially barring them from future social interaction.
@@michapiasta3072 Deshret didn't wield seven elements, he was the original choice of Celestia for dendro archon before he refused the gnosis and they were made to choose Rukkhadevata instead.
So essentially, King Deshret was using Java while Khanreiah was using C++
Got it
Bugs totally ended up sinking their respective IT companies
And both wanted to get their fingers on the windows kernell.
I am really intrigued by the idea of "Celestia: The programs are starting to learn the source code, we can't have them learn to code themselves, stop them"!
Yeah, Celestia seems to be the security protocol in this holodeck simulation.
the grip that Ashikai's videos have on me..... lmao I clicked so fast when I got the upload notification.
You too brother *pats back* I am adding another constellation to Yanfei for lantern right over her! Ashikai has free realestate in my heart bruh 😂💕
bruh same, I can't wait for another one
Lmao. Me, too. I didn't even see the title and channel name yet, I just saw like the top half of the thumbnail, I immediately thought "Ashikai?", scrolled down and out loud said "Yes!" xD
Me too got on my phone right know saw CZcams notifications read the word ashikai then instantly cliked and now I am here
Upvote if you to would simp for Ashikai 💕
Trailer : alhaitham calmly monologue bout his thinking and job
Other reaction tubers : He's cool !
Ashikai : okay there's a few seeds of lore here, connecting to the grand story
In short, Ashikai is always amazing
Not gonna lie, when I heard him say "It is forbidden to investigate the genesis of language", I thought to myself it ought to have some major lore implications
Maybe Ashikai is just having an effect on me lol
@@meganke2196 same, guess all these other people are just not that interested in the lore
Her and Catwithbluehat are the best
At 2:50, when you mentioned Nahida being the keyboard and mouse I IMMEDIATELY thought of her Normal and Chargers attacks, which are key presses and a click and drag with a mouse. SO COOL.
This would explain why dottore was too interested in ruin guards and how he gained lot of knowledge from breaking akademiya no no by studying them " it's funny how this man probably did every forbidden thing you can image "
I wonder if alhaitham will try approaching forbidden knowledge at some point
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I find it interesting that between Alhaitham's Darshan and Kaveh's Darshan, they could make some breakthroughs if they worked together, yet the two Darshans instead are at each other’s throats 😅
Linguistics and architecture/archeology are two fields of study closely linked and crucial in anthropology.
It's because it's forbidden for darshans to collaborate ! Maybe because they could figure out some hidden truth... 👀
@Capricia El Cid Yeah! I bet these rules and Cardinal Sins exist for a practical and moral reason, but some of them sound extreme and limited. Can’t collaborate with other fields that do go hand-hand together? Can’t study the origin of words and writing of all things? I study linguistics myself, so hearing that one can't study etymology far back is wild to me.
Everything just seems to convenient to keep people in-universe finding out certain world secrets, in my opinion.
@@mkay5649 Yes it's very sus! I wonder who imposed these prohibitions because I don’t see the Archon Dendro having created them, those in particular anyway. Could it be Celestia?
Recently I saw a video on the lore of Honkai and I found that the effects of the awakening of Stigmata looked a lot like the effects of forbidden knowledge! I hope the next quest will give us more answers! ^^
The runes found on the robots being a programming language is genius!
I think it's possible they're not allowed to study the "origins of words" in case the word was sufficiently removed from but is actually rooted from a word or concept erased from Irminsul and making the connection could unravel an encoded savefile. Like, you'd accidentally tag something for deletion that didn't get deleted because there was a typo and they didn't catch it.
That's a very good theory. I like this.
the "OUR VPN SHALL NOT BE BREACHED"
was spectacular xD
I once made an theory that since Khaenri'ah is the parallel of Rome Empire and Nordic, and in our world, most of our language are from Latin, Greek and many old languages. It wouldn't be a surprise that the Sumeru Akamedyia negate all form of connection with Khaenri'ah.
Another curious thing about Alhaitham's trailer showed the cyclical loop of the world. And of all animals he mentioned, was the birds. On many mythos, birds are used as symbols of freedom or passing messages. Which this make his phrase even more particular, is through the Traveller's journey, we are seeing many bird allegories and mentions such as: Mona's story about the crystal bird at the GAA event, Kusanali's parallel with a caged bird, Barbatos's flying lesson, Xiao's real form is a golden bird and even Leonard's Gliders were made to copy the birds's wings.
'WHAT LANGUAGE is thine, O sea?'
'The language of eternal question.'
'What language is thy answer, O sky?'
'The language of eternal silence.'
Stray Birds by Rabindranath Tagore.
Roman but Viking
That's what Khaenri'ah is
@@annaairahala9462 I heard his name is literally Arabic for da eagle
Regarding the cyclical loop of the world, taking into account Genshin's parent story Honkai, Teyvat was experiencing the same phenomenon as Honkai world based on recent chapters, except in different forms and terminology. The traveller's role is the combination of the main trio (Kiana, Mei, Broyna), Fire Moths project Ember, and Elysia.
@@vanessachowjiaying4423 funny thing about Lumine; same Chinese actress as Ely
I think it’s also worth mentioning how Egyptians had the notion of words having power and their myths sometimes involve using sacred words to manifest new things (creating something from nothingness).
So if these perpetual machines have been inscribed by symbols, they can be considered as primitive form of hieroglyphs. So maybe Dehsret managed to create things from chaos or rather abyss in a meaningful way (which also mirrors the creation myths where chaos reigned supreme until order was born from chaos).
Also, this would tie in with Ruin machines being advanced versions of King Dehsret tech since they also use a core with dark power that Ararycan said was related to Marana.
"Chaos?" *Jordan Peterson enters the chat*
Rather than hieroglyphs, Deshret's script is (mostly) an abjad like the kinds that emerged in the area for languages other than Egyptian like Phoenician and South Arabian script. Hieroglyphs are so complicated that if they tried putting them in the game they'd end up like Liyue's script - nonsense and indecipherable.
the origin of words being a sin in teyvat has perplexed me ever since i found out. especially considering that alhaitham's heravatat darshan, which is basically the language department, it's interesting that they're more concerned with actually translating languages. which is toeing the line very close to looking for the origin of words since you would usually break down the word by it's syllable origin. so it's kinda interesting that they list this is forbidden and yet they still try to study it in a very round about way. like some of the other sins are tempering with human evolution & tempering with life/death, then you just have finding out the origin of words. one of these isn't like the others 💀
i think it's very fitting that alhaitham is someone who we see continue to talk about this sin considering that he's very logical and it's such a prominent part of him that everyone who has a voiceline about him mentions it. so it's kind of interesting that he's the one trying to grapple with this. and he's accepting that not having an answer to everything is an actual answer in of itself. it's like he's accepted that he's given up trying to look for the answer and is rather trying to make do with what is available. which you would think for someone like him he'd research til the very end, but he doesn't.
and it think its because he's accepted that the scribe can't record everything, not like irminsul. and yet, we've seen that not even the irminsul can completely record everything. and it comes full circle that the only person who we have seen be mentioned to be the true recorder of this world is traveler. so of course it's by fate that we would meet him and go on this quest. the entirety of sumeru can be boiled down to, there is nothing about teyvat that can truly be recorded accurately. the only thing that can trusted is what traveler has seen since the moment they opened their eyes in teyvat.
"Threads of fate would be yours to reweave"... As the only person capable to remember the world that existed before you hit the reset button. Uh-oh my dude.
@Psycorde taking into account Genshin's parent story Honkai recent chapters, it's apparent that the travellers' role is similar to the Honkai trio (Kiana, Mei, Bronya), Fire Moths, and Elysia; to break away the cycle of destruction and rebirth. As revealed in the recent chapters, civilizations resets every 50 thousand years by the Herrscher of the End. However, in the previous era, the presence of the 13 Flamechsers managed to partly break away from the cycle through their backup projects.
I also saw another parallel to the myth of the Tower of Babel and the source code (which doesn't surprise me as Genshin likes to mash up mythology). Unified culture, unified language leads to overstep and punishment by the divine.
That reminds me. Pilos Peak was the top of DragonSpine/Vindagnyr. The people of Sal Vindagnyr got "nailed" and later Barbatos/Venti tossed the peak out to sea, creating Musk Reef. Perhaps Venti was trying to protect Mondstadt from repeating a Tower of Babel scenario?
@@sylvarogre5469 Musk Reef is a different mountain. Pilos Peak.
The fact that you got all this from such a fairly short teaser is what makes you amazing! Can't wait for all the upcoming scara stuff!
That "Celestia panic" segment felt like an intro to a NordVPN ad.
this is super interesting. every time they bring up the fact that looking into the origin of words is one of the cardinal sins, i’m really curious why that’s the case, so i do hope they elaborate on that a bit at some point
I think its because looking into the name of things could lead someone to learn about history being altered since we have seen that things that are named after people don't change when history does
It's probably as Ash said, Celestia would come knocking.
Meaning two things. It's an act going against the heavenly principles, and that it leads to the truth of this world
Which might just be the fact they they live in a simulation, knowing which would lead to all kinds of chaos - if you're a product of the simulation, you can't escape it, and you'll have to contend with the knowledge that everything you know is fake. In this case, ignorance is bliss, and that bliss might be what Celestia is protecting at any cost.
Surely related to the temple of silence
can’t wait to see more lore related to the cardinal sins! it’s also so interesting how the origin of certain objects are a banned subject, especially since the knowledge about who actually made teyvat is very murky
This man is so suspicious for how smart he is, also the fact he's reiterating multiple times he's an ordinary person is making me think he's very unordinary
Another reason to possibly avoid researching word origins: it may prompt discoveries about the unified civilization.
Modern linguists have used modern languages and preserved old languages like latin and sanskrit to reconstruct words in a language they call proto-indo-european. The shared (and missing) vocabulary of that proto language has been used to analyze the culture that spoke it.
What could Teyvat residents discover if they traced their modern words back to the unified civilization?
They’d discover, as we did, as Orobaxi did, that Celestia and all of its “rules” are just as alien to this world as the traveler is, and if the assload of evidence we have is to be believed, they haven’t exactly been good to Teyvat.
Orobaxi was killed explicitly because he discovered the unified civilization. The denizens of Enkanomiya were forced to submit to a cultural genocide before being allowed above ground. The inverted civilization in the chasm and Sal Vindagnir, civilizations that shared architectural similarities with the UC and presumably history, were both destroyed by celestial nails. Zhongli, one of the few people who know what really happened in Khaenri’ah, prevented from speaking about it. Celestia takes great pains to keep certain knowledge hidden.
Scholars being “destroyed by their knowledge” seems less likely than Celestia inflicting horrible punishment upon those who would dare reveal the man behind the curtain. Makes me wonder if “forbidden knowledge” is ACTUALLY a cognitohazard, or if Celestia just attached madness.exe to a bunch of files to keep them from being accessed.
@@atthewmayeohanekay9294 that's a really interesting theory. I would go with it if I still believed that Celestia are outright villains, but they could be a necessary evil.
The answer would depend on whether Irminsul is their tool or something that always existed. If the former, they are using it to control Teyvat, if the latter, they're just protecting it. Apparently, it's vulnerable to metaphysical concepts that manifest very much physically if you think hard enough (like King Deshret)
Exactly what I was gonna say. I'm a classicist and I swear there was not a day we didn't talk about PIE one way or the other in almost every class, so to hear that they cannot study the origin of words... that would mean they cannot try to compare languages and reconstruct roots. They probably fear being able to decipher some ancient language.
Ok it's kinda crack but I have a theory:
We can probably look at the things that you're not allowed to research to get an idea of what the gods don't want you to know.
Y'all know that biblical tale of god creating many languages to prevent humans from coordinated and building a tower to reach heaven?
What if all words have their origins in Celestia, who created the many languages to keep the 7 nations divided. That's probably also why they keep an archon in each nation.
Maybe there's something about a unified civilization that would allow humanity to ascend to godhood in a way, so when Celestia came into power, they made sure such a thing could never happen
our lady of lore at it again
Really enjoyed the change of pace with a short video. I love your deep dives as well but these Lorebit videos are a great idea to get your thoughts out there on smaller topics that don't fit into your bigger videos. Looking forward to more! 🥰
honestly it's so weird to not be able to search for the origins of the words, as someone who does find lenguage very intriguing, learning the origin of things in your own lenguage is such a cool part of history, and records that are lost are a pretty upsetting occurence. I personally don't think forbidden knowledge corrupts because of the knowledge itself. Let's say, you read before sun and moon, the knowledge we find in there alone is, not enough to make anyone go crazy. My theory is, forbidden knowledge itself is not dangerous in it's own, but because it was thrown into the abyss, it got corrupted, an now learning it will also corrupt you. Basically Teyvat is a closed bubble therefore there's nowhere to throw the trash to celestia piles it up in a trash dump and just like real life trash dumps it becomes some of the most toxic places to be around. But I wonder why the origin of words are forbidden knowledge in the first place? Maybe to cut any related ties to the unified civilization? Of the time of the seelies, the three moon sisters and the primordial one? Ashikai how dare you make me go into a rabbit hole at this hour, I need s l e e p, but I also need a n s w e r s
Maybe they didn't want them to learn about the Primordial and or their sins... O-0
For example, if the civilization who created language was either destroyed by Celestial or removed from record, they wouldn't want people to figure it out. And if they did, they will become like Orobashi
It's possible the Abyss or something made forbidden knowledge more dangerous, but it wouldn't have to. It just had to undermine enough of what people have used to understand how the world works. Think about learning that Earth wasn't even the center of the solar system, the effect that have had on religion. Imagine how we would react to conclusive evidence of intelligent, technological intelligent life.
There's also old ideas about true names of things having power. It's still true that being able to describe something more accurately gives you more control over it.
Put that idea in a world that has actual magic in it, and you also have to worry whether words themselves can invoke fundamental powers; an incantation. I'm also reminded of Golems, which were animated by 'holy' words inscribed on them, or written down and placed inside them.
Oh boy this is technically a teaser for another rabbit hole of a lore, i cant wait to watch your theories
There was this one Haravatat scholar who lived out in the woods. He attempted to translate a book bound in human skin and inked in blood... 🤣
Okay, on a more serious note. There are a lot of connections between breath, words, and creation/life in a few religions. Such as "In the beginning was the word, and the word became flesh." or "God formed man from clay and breathed life into him." etc. There was even an alternate version of the Adam & Eve story in which God realizes that humans have eaten of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, then God worries that humans might eat of the Tree of Life and become Gods as well. That's why he kicks them from the Garden. ( at least in that version)
Mixing that idea with the Odin story of the discovery of Runes is fascinating.
Ash please see this! I have a theory!!!!
So the opening cutscene everyone things is the start of the story, but what if it’s the end? Each nation teaches a lesson. Monstadt is that you can be free if a god demands it of you. Inazuma is the lesson about eternity not being perfect. Sumeru is about breaking the cycle of Samsara’s.
So:
What if Teyvat is in a time loop, a Samsara, and when Dain says about ‘Reweaving fate’, he actually means breaking the Samara before the next Samsara cycle starts. It would mean the cutscene at the end could make sense as both twins would have regained all their powers, and could be challenging the sustainer of HP to try to get to the gateway that leads to the divine/past the fake sky. This would mean that at the end of the game, we would see the opening cutscene again, but with a different ending (not being captured) as they have changed their fate/broken the samsara.
This would also make sense as in Honkai (spoilers):
The new chapter revealed that their universe runs on a 500 year cycle, and at the end of this cycle, the Herrescher of Finality essentially resets the world and starts again, much like a Samara!!!
Please do take this theory and review it anyone, would love to hear peoples take on it!!!
Considering captainverse stories and Star Rail proved that the general terms in Honkai have different terminologies, even different forms of manifestations, but are still similar, depending on the universes, Genshin is likely under the same category. The traveller's role is the combination of the main trio, Fire Moths and Elysia.
So first of all, the robots sound a lot like the golems of Hebrew mythology which were made by carving words on them. Can’t remember if the word carved was a name or a set of instructions because, tbh, most of my knowledge of the things comes from fiction and that one speedread of their wiki article I did 10+ years ago.
Secondly, did not expect my takeaway from this video to be: Alhaitham is trying to ‘who’s that Pokémon’ the knowledge missing from the world of Teyvat.
As a Jew it's very interesting to me how they are now also incorporating Hebrew mythology, if true! There's multiple stories, but it all begins with a Rabbi inserting a piece of paper in a clay doll's mouth, and it coming to life. Perhaps Genshin will follow the mythological story with Dottore's ruin guards?
well celestia did one thing "isolate the virus till it's totally unviewable and lost it's function to think and operate the turns into dark dust" part
Lore + Persona music = Profit for me
The Persona 3 ost was a nice touch
I guess it's like reading Harry Potter books vs watching the movie. Human imagination kinda fills in the blanks and can interpret some things more sophisticatedly. o 3o
I always that studying language too closely was tabooed because of how they will find the origin of words which eventually leads to the truth of where their language and cultures all came from.
omg, how did I miss the missing eye in those statuettes. aaaaahhhhh Odin is the embodiment of someone trying to gain knowledge. And this whole game is about forbidden knowledge. Man, I always enjoy basically gaining a new perspective on things in Genshin thanks to you. Another great video!
-Ashikai: ..Now, do you remember the silver twig..
-my procrastinaty ass: yes, I literally got it 15 mins ago😂
I really like Haitham’s calm teaser 💚 It reminds me about ‘A Beautiful Mind’ film. Your point about Irminsul and Abyss is very interesting because I think the abyss is like a black hole or a bottomless well.
that was such a short and chill video for a theory thats super heavy and interesting what the fuck
The way you talked about questions that can't be answered, but can still show things makes me think of black holes. They can't me seen an aprroaching them is very dangerous, but you can still "observe" them by looking at the effect they have on light and space.
Ashikai, I hope you read this, because I feel like I might be onto something, all thanks to you.
Investigating origin of words could be interpreted as questioning the reality itself, if it's indeed leading to the programming language of Teyvat, so to speak, and opening the door for doubting nature of all things.
Forbidden knowledge, then, could represent inability to deal with the consequences of it, namely nihilism and suffering that comes with your understanding of reality being torn apart.
It's also boundless potential, chaos, negative space around the Irminsul as you said. And "power from beyond" that Dainsleif was referring to at some point.
If my ramblings are too chaotic (don't have time to properly think it over and formulate it), I'll just refer to Nietzsche, nihilism, abyss that stares back and the concept of overman.
I'm not deeply familiar with Nietzsche's work, just know that he's misunderstood as some kind of proponent of nihilism rather than someone contending with it and looking for solutions
You're clever and will figure out the rest, I reckon. I'm myself a bit lost deep in the weeds here.
I liked the new format for small details of the lore that arent enough to make a big video about it, keep it up :)
Such a cool video! Also, love the new video format! I love all Ashikai vids ofc but this one was efficient and compact. Very awesome
Upside down hanged man can also relate to Tarot Major Arcana The hanged man, which depicts a man hanging from a living wood.
I look forward to your videos to listen to while I’m at work. The effort you put into these videos is amazing as well. I forget that I’m listen to game lore and not the history channel lol
i'd lile to know your opinions about nahida's story quest too... the whole "i'm not emira.. i'm [][]" and the shooting star after got me really curious... i hope her 2nd story quest (if it happens) will elaborate further 😌
The shooting star reminded me with the twins and that man who created Wing Glider. At least that's my immediate thought.
Since shooting stars has so far being associated with constellation falling from the sky, I wonder if that shooting star Nahida saw has something to do with either Rukkhadevata constellation or her own constellation
me opening this video thinking you would talk about etymology behind names within sumeru but it’s actually a theory. mind blown
I think you're spot on with the runes and programming language association. The idea that there are multiple programming languages that more or less do the same thing is very interesting b/c it implies that these specific ones are a higher-level abstraction (e.g. Python, Java) that might all compile down to a lower-level, more fundamental machine code (e.g. binary) that's closer to maybe the source code that governs Teyvat, that enforce the Heavenly Principles. It stands to reason that studying these symbols too closely can lead you to a closer understanding of the truth of this world which could be considered Forbidden Knowledgeᵀᴹ.
The idea that things that are not written down can be equally if not more important is also very interesting. If we know that writing things down explicitly makes them subject to be tempered with, what if there was a way to write them down indirectly, not just in the form of allegories but with actual negative space? Like Sudoku. Just given a valid initial state, the Sudoku puzzle can be solved to create exactly one end state, if one understands the rules behind that puzzle. This might be more useful than just using allegories b/c you'll get the exact same end result every single time without the chance of misinterpretation like you could with an allegory. The lore in this game is something else.
Well done! I can’t help but see Yanfei when I hear your voice now.
i wonder how many times i will have to watch this video to make my brain understand
good video me and my cat enjoyed👍👍👍
Loved this lore bit! Thank you! I admire how you make sense of the vast ocean of lore than Genshin tosses us into, and help us understand and appreciate it!
It reminded me of questions I had about genshin and linguistics. How do they communicate together. Like we can deduce there is only one language with geographical specialites like dialects since they don't seem to have any difficultes communicating with each other and the traveler. But then where does the 20+ langages came from (since summeru academics need to learn at least 20 to pass). We can concluse they are dead language or hillichurlian. But then why is there absolutly no influence on that language (maybe only just slight vocabulary since again they don't have any difficultes communicating with each other). And also since Faruzan and Qiqi who had a clear cut with civilisation don't seem to struggle that much with vocabulary, accent and stuff. Why is that language stuck in time ?
I don’t know if it’s the same in CN but in traveler’s voice line “ About Language “ Paimon says that the traveler has developed a good grasp on Tevyats language, referring to it as only one language. So according to this voice line all of Tevyat speaks one language. I guess the ones Akademiya students learn are all ancient ones that currently aren’t in use by humans ?
Great little video. Looking forward to seeing more in depth videos soon.
I'm really liking these short little vids!
all your videos are so awsome!
shit, I study computer science and linguistics in real life, I would be in so much trouble in Genshin Impact with Celestia T.T but now, I can say that I'm proudly a member of the Haravat Darshan trying to escape Cyno
I love this format because it's short, sweet, and still manages to cram a ton of fascinating connections into the experience.
I hate this format because it's just not enough Ashikai. We truly live in an imperfect world.
“DEPLOY THE NAIL, I REPEAT, DEPLOY THE NAIL”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It makes me think of black holes. Like how we can't actually detect them due to the nature of a black hole, but we can find them due to observing the effects they have on the space around them. It makes me wonder if we could think of descenders like information black holes; like we will be able to find them by figuring out the gaps in data and the impression they leave, even if irminsul contains no memory of them. Same for erased data like Wanderer.
Weird thought, what if the reason no one calls Aether and Lumine by their actual names is because no one is capable of remembering them. Like, if memories is just pulling from a personal databank in Irminsul, and the info about the Descenders isn't being recorded, what if no one can actually remember their names. I dunno, seems like something that would have come up, but maybe the Traveler is just used to it by the time the game starts. Both names have definitely been said in the presence of a few people (Paimon included) but never once is it addressed why the Abyss Twin called you by a different name.
"After Nahida deleted Rukhadevata" Dont remind us😭
Thank you for making this! I've been wondering about why the studying the origin of words would be considered forbidden.
I think it would be really helpful if you could add visual elements of the concepts you're talking about.
For example, showing a picture of Odin while talking about his eye, or showing a picture of what negative space is while describing it, etc.
Even if they were just squiggly drawings, it would get the point across better and would make everything easier for some people to understand.
Love your videos!
Imagine getting merked by the Matra for knowing C+ and Java.
Did you just release a video about language, after Alhaitam's Teaser just got released ?? 😯😯 nice timing
That open the possibility of some type of magic associated with words, being possible in teyvat asside of the visions and kemia
i didnt realize that
For alhaitham teaser, now new lore video. I’m hype
I love your videos!! They are so helpful!
Interesting thought about different kind of programming languages.
loved the new format!
Fun! I look forward to more of these.
This so funny cuz “endless suffering” released an hour after this video
Woah this came out of nowhere! Amazing!
Funny how you mentioned Nahida being the haptic device knowing her animation resembles it
Would be funny if the entirety of Teyvat is a simulation
@@noirblanc8013 I mean, it is for us
4th wall shatters
ngl, when I saw Alhaitham video, the scene where the bookshelves cross at the sides of him remember me the scene in Matrix with Neo and the gun shelves. So perhaps finding the origins of words... its like seeing the codes of the matrix?
wow! i was literally just thinking about this and then POOF Ashikai video about it! TY!!!!
Your big lore brain gives me energy.
Thanks for this new lorebits video. Very interesting :)
I know you said this on one of your streams but I love Lorebits.
I was almost crying and then suddenly realised that I hadn't watched new ashikai's video yet and LITERALLY STOPPED CRYING
My question here is, in the first Dainsleif Quest, they show us that he can read Abyssal Language, but Abyssal things cannot be comprehended because they are forbidden knowledge, this means Dain can actually understand forbidden knowledge? would that mean he can overpass the Teyvat rules? does this make him sus as a descender even when he's from Khaenri'ah or something like that?
Not everything from abyss it's forbidden knowledge
it could just be khaenriahs language
He understands the writings of the Abyss Order, the characters of which are a variation of the Unified Language's that we see in many other places. As every nation, even from the time of the unified society, had their own variation of script, it is likely that the Abyss Order uses Khaenri'ah's.
Ashikai be hyping Genshin more than the developers themselves…
Ashikai Lorequeen, queen of lore
I was hoping for a video about this!!!!
Weren't the Celestial nails dropped way before Khaenri'an disaster?
Nice format!
I have my eyes peeled for 3.4 and your notification turned on
by the way, were there any assumptions that the irminsul tree itself might be conscious? since xamaran exists and it's a conscious, talking being
I know very little about Ancient Persia but this sounds like Medieval Europe's relationship with pre-Christian literature. Yes, pagan literature was kept and immortalized for the ages, but only under the lens of Christianity. Any type of work that didn't opperate alongside Christian ideals either wasn't allowed to exist or wasn't written down faithfully.
Love the articulation and synopsis! All in a bite-size video. I just wish the music was a little more thematic and a little less 2008 demo. 😂
Your vids are awesome keep up the great work
can i pls know when we found out about the runes-as-programming language thing? i honestly had no idea about that up until now :D
so runes are a way to perform abilities/magic without a vision. its like how cyno sealed collei's dark powers or doctor strange performing forget spell. im kind of getting full metal alchemist vibes here. maybe one of the story in the future is reviving the dead using transmutation circle or transmuting animal with humans!
Maybe studying and learing about it will make turn you into a god that enables creation of unfathomable things. Celestia doesn't want anyone to have someone to have authority in their level or higher that's why they eradicate those who learns it.
Also, I got the implication that knowing the source of words is also learning the roots of Humanity in Teyvat.... And that for sure is forbidden knowledge as well. Because humanity was seeded in Teyvat so the language used is not of Teyvat either.
When I heard the first sentences of this trailer I thought of Ashikai immediately
Just a thing that popped into my head when I saw the trailer:
Does Irminsul control through language?
Let's say, someone makes up his own language and writes down history, can Irminsul manipulate these records?
Very interesting......and if you didn't circulate your lil made up language and kept it to yourself..... Would the Heavens find out? Would they stop you?
Now translate the concept gaps in recording to practice or intellect. If that what is not said implies that which is out of irminsul's reach, then the one whose actions defy rationality and prediction might be out of fate's reach. To defy the rule of celestia one would have to pretend to be a fool, to intentionally commit folly, to put on a mask and pretend to be acting merely a role in a play; to be the jester whom no one would take seriously.
Oh and can we talk about how odin, not to say king irmin, literally gave up his VISION in the pursuit for (forbidden) knowledge he inquired from three sisters weaving fate at the roots of a giant world tree?
ALHAITAHM not beating the King Deshret allegations
I didn't get the last part about Alheitham's statement... someone please explain me
I humbly suggest the watching of Technology Connections’ video on the color brown and adding it into the context blender with the forbiddenness of studying the origin of language in Genshin.
Well done!