That is very unfair- why he thought he should step out into the road to do that is beyond me. Having raced Ilkley myself, you still go very fast up that hill and there’s actually a decent risk of crashing on it due to riders fatiguing while others are attacking- let alone when someone is standing on the circuit itself! If the commissaries want to communicate with a rider, they ought to use a whiteboard.
That guy should know better, and it proves the elitism of British Cycling when they complain that you swore at an official, who was not dressed as an official, and they thought they could discipline you even though you had video evidence. Glad you made this available for the public to see.
The official is wearing a UCI uniform, the dark blue top and bright beige trousers are very different to the BC uniform but well known. Regardless it's inexplicable what the man was doing in the road.
F That!!! It doesn't matter how you express yourself, you got your point across. He was just mad because you put him in his place, and I promise he will never do that again since you made him feel a bit silly. LOL, Great Video My Brother!!
I agree with you completely. He should not have been there and risked causing an accident and you were justified in shouting at him to get out the way. You should put a counter complaint in for him.
I think you're 100% in the right mate, he could've caused a pretty serious accident by doing that, unacceptable of an official. I hate that we likely have to buy front and rear cameras for safety, we should be able to choose low-to-no tech. Much love from New Zealand.
If you look to the right, behind the official, there is a dog on a leash, and swearing in front of the dog can harm its feelings. The dog might need counseling after this ordeal. You should have said "Hello sir thank you for standing in the road with your whistle in a very dangerous manner, can you please just step back up onto the curb and off the course! And please sir when you step back do not step on the Dog right behind you." That is the way you go about these things, not swearing!
It's nice that you apologized for your profanity. We must be professional. He obviously shouldn't have been in the road. He could have caused a crash and or injuries to the riders. He should be disciplined. No, you shouldn't be banned. The officials ALL should have some type of clothing that identifies them as officials. They should also consider using some type of flags to communicate with the riders without getting on the road way. Safety first for all involved.
What's a few choice words in the heat of the moment when facing danger? You could have broke bones there in a fall or swerved into the crowd. He put you in a dangerous position through his own actions. That he is an official is crazy. That he is high up an abused his power to discipline you is nuts. It is him who clearly needs to be disciplined. Thanks for shaming them with this video. Will they take action - as a result of the publicity - or are they banding round his guy bc is high up and they are his friends?
Let’s hope the organisers watch it and learn. I rode in RideLondon this year and my only real criticism was the poor marshalling. Many took no notice of the riders, they didn’t get upstream of the numerous crashes to warn riders and several just waved their yellow flags continually to show how much fun they were having. The BC rules and regulations include hundreds of pages of onerous regulations regarding the riders but say nothing about how the officials should behave or how they should be identified on the circuit.
That was odd. As you said, you'd expect an official to be easily identifiable as such. Even then, you wouldn't expect to see them doing something like that. Just out of interest, what camera are you using - very clear footage.
He had absolutely ZERO reason to be in the middle of the road! Official or not. Cursing at someone who can’t potentially cause serious injury, is not something you should have to apologize for. Good thing you had your camera on.
Besides the swearing, which to be honest is understandable considering the effort and ambiguous intention of the 'spectator ', you hadn't done anything wrong. He was not in any recognisable kit to id as an official. He stepped into path of the athletes. His complaint is unreasonable he should be disciplined and made to apologise for his error. In my youth racing crits I had never experienced this but other pompous behavior abound. What are the current official rules for lap norification. I mean, the motorbike passing is a good enough clue isn't it. I hope you at least get a chance to have your say. Don't accept any strikes against you. Excellent racing and course btw.
He is lucky that’s all that happened. I would be angry if some idiot was standing in the middle of the race, when I was putting out over 800 watts . No unmarked officials should be allowed on course. If it’s for some crazy reason not a rule. Then it should be. If he had a high vis on you wouldn’t have done that.
He should not have been in the road and if he was, as you say, passing a message about being lapped then he was doing a crap job at it as you and those near you, weren't told. Standing in the gutter, facing on coming riders with a board and shouting / using his whistle would have been way more effective and much safer.
No matter who the official was he should not be stood in the middle of the road! Let's assume for a second you hit him, went over the bars and broke your neck. Your claim (civil) against the official would be considerable and most likely you would have a legal claim against BC if he was acting in official capacity for them. Now let's say you ran into him and caused his death no court in the land would take the case further he would (or next of kin) would be entitled to Didley Squat......motto of the story your camera footage would be used as evidence. I'm shocked BC have not forced the official to a full apology to you for endangering your safety!!!
That is very unfair- why he thought he should step out into the road to do that is beyond me. Having raced Ilkley myself, you still go very fast up that hill and there’s actually a decent risk of crashing on it due to riders fatiguing while others are attacking- let alone when someone is standing on the circuit itself! If the commissaries want to communicate with a rider, they ought to use a whiteboard.
Dangerous action by the race official at *08.40* in the video. He needs to be disciplined.
Totally agree @andykennedy5951, why aren’t officials wearing hi-vis, surely should be mandate.
That guy should know better, and it proves the elitism of British Cycling when they complain that you swore at an official, who was not dressed as an official, and they thought they could discipline you even though you had video evidence. Glad you made this available for the public to see.
The official is wearing a UCI uniform, the dark blue top and bright beige trousers are very different to the BC uniform but well known. Regardless it's inexplicable what the man was doing in the road.
so glad you had a camera. was great to watch it all too.
F That!!! It doesn't matter how you express yourself, you got your point across. He was just mad because you put him in his place, and I promise he will never do that again since you made him feel a bit silly. LOL, Great Video My Brother!!
Think you bruised his ego, shame he couldn’t admit fault, small man.
Hard not to swear when you’re at threshold and someone stands in your way!
You had every right to shout as you did
I agree with you completely.
He should not have been there and risked causing an accident and you were justified in shouting at him to get out the way. You should put a counter complaint in for him.
I thought about it… decided making the video was a better way of complaining
He's the one who should be disciplined.
I think you're 100% in the right mate, he could've caused a pretty serious accident by doing that, unacceptable of an official. I hate that we likely have to buy front and rear cameras for safety, we should be able to choose low-to-no tech. Much love from New Zealand.
Good Christ why oh why do some folks think its in any way acceptable to have their officials off the lead at a crit ?
If you look to the right, behind the official, there is a dog on a leash, and swearing in front of the dog can harm its feelings. The dog might need counseling after this ordeal. You should have said "Hello sir thank you for standing in the road with your whistle in a very dangerous manner, can you please just step back up onto the curb and off the course! And please sir when you step back do not step on the Dog right behind you." That is the way you go about these things, not swearing!
I will try and remember that for next time! 🤣
official should be disciplined. He's not above the rules, I'm sure there's rules and behaviors he need to follow.
It's nice that you apologized for your profanity. We must be professional.
He obviously shouldn't have been in the road. He could have caused a crash and or injuries to the riders. He should be disciplined.
No, you shouldn't be banned. The officials ALL should have some type of clothing that identifies them as officials.
They should also consider using some type of flags to communicate with the riders without getting on the road way.
Safety first for all involved.
Says it all with british organised cycling ...utter crap !
What was he thinking!!!. Put in a counter claim he could have been any nutter!!!
Good to see you weren't put off by the Dacre road race. You pick the hilly ones!
Ha yes, searching out the flat ones now!
What's a few choice words in the heat of the moment when facing danger? You could have broke bones there in a fall or swerved into the crowd. He put you in a dangerous position through his own actions. That he is an official is crazy. That he is high up an abused his power to discipline you is nuts. It is him who clearly needs to be disciplined. Thanks for shaming them with this video. Will they take action - as a result of the publicity - or are they banding round his guy bc is high up and they are his friends?
Can’t wait to do this next year as an 80 kg plus rider😂
it’s tough. I was at 84kg so was never going to be a great one for me.
Let’s hope the organisers watch it and learn. I rode in RideLondon this year and my only real criticism was the poor marshalling. Many took no notice of the riders, they didn’t get upstream of the numerous crashes to warn riders and several just waved their yellow flags continually to show how much fun they were having. The BC rules and regulations include hundreds of pages of onerous regulations regarding the riders but say nothing about how the officials should behave or how they should be identified on the circuit.
That was odd. As you said, you'd expect an official to be easily identifiable as such. Even then, you wouldn't expect to see them doing something like that.
Just out of interest, what camera are you using - very clear footage.
It’s the new @insta360 X4. Only had it for a couple of weeks but loving it. Just wish it was lighter but quality is amazing.
He had absolutely ZERO reason to be in the middle of the road! Official or not. Cursing at someone who can’t potentially cause serious injury, is not something you should have to apologize for. Good thing you had your camera on.
The fact that he’s a commissaire makes it even worse, he should know better! What are you apologising for?
Besides the swearing, which to be honest is understandable considering the effort and ambiguous intention of the 'spectator ', you hadn't done anything wrong. He was not in any recognisable kit to id as an official. He stepped into path of the athletes. His complaint is unreasonable he should be disciplined and made to apologise for his error. In my youth racing crits I had never experienced this but other pompous behavior abound. What are the current official rules for lap norification. I mean, the motorbike passing is a good enough clue isn't it.
I hope you at least get a chance to have your say. Don't accept any strikes against you.
Excellent racing and course btw.
That "official" is indeed a prick and a massive one at that to have the cheek to complain.
He is lucky that’s all that happened. I would be angry if some idiot was standing in the middle of the race, when I was putting out over 800 watts .
No unmarked officials should be allowed on course. If it’s for some crazy reason not a rule. Then it should be.
If he had a high vis on you wouldn’t have done that.
He should not have been in the road and if he was, as you say, passing a message about being lapped then he was doing a crap job at it as you and those near you, weren't told. Standing in the gutter, facing on coming riders with a board and shouting / using his whistle would have been way more effective and much safer.
No matter who the official was he should not be stood in the middle of the road! Let's assume for a second you hit him, went over the bars and broke your neck. Your claim (civil) against the official would be considerable and most likely you would have a legal claim against BC if he was acting in official capacity for them. Now let's say you ran into him and caused his death no court in the land would take the case further he would (or next of kin) would be entitled to Didley Squat......motto of the story your camera footage would be used as evidence. I'm shocked BC have not forced the official to a full apology to you for endangering your safety!!!
You didn't do anything wrong apart from swearing !!..I'd have done the exact same.
The guy's bell end and should not be on the road no matter who he is. Does being an official mean that you won't cause an accident? no it does not
Anybody who steps in front of racing cyclists must be a muppet.
It's a live race track, he shouldn't be on the road.