Classic Doom Video Review
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Gaming Pastime reviews the Classic Doom games for PC.
Developed and published by id Software, the first shareware episode of Doom was released for DOS in December, 1993. Two more episodes would follow and in 1995, The Ultimate Doom was released which is an expanded version of the game containing a fourth episode. Doom II was released in September, 1994. The expansion known as the Master Levels for Doom II was released in December, 1995. No Rest for the Living is a set of levels, or an expansion pack, for Doom II and was developed by Nerve Software, originally released on Xbox Live Arcade. It was then included in the Doom 3: BFG Edition. Final Doom which contains two thirty two level megawads - Evilution, developed by TeamTNT and The Plutonia Experiment, developed by the Casali brothers. Final Doom was released in May, 1996.
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Doom still blows me away with how perfectly the mechanics all fit together. It's one of the smoothest gameplay experiences ever.
I like the original two the best.
10:12 Doom Eternal: “Ask and you shall receive!”
It's still basically the Same Bossfight. Shoot at something that can barely do anything while you fight of Hordes of Monsters.
@@DrRitterstein he does a lot of things if you stand in one place he will punch it and does a lot of damage he throws projectiles and summons demons , so you need to pay attention on what he is doing.
Not gonna lie, as soon as we hear that Arch Vile alerted sound, we whip out the BFG
Glad to see you review one of the best all time games (and my personal favorite franchise).
Your reviews in general make getting out of work on Friday afternoons that much sweeter, which in and of itself says something.
I also got INCREDIBLY excited when I saw this video uploaded!
His reviews are TOP quality across the board. Glad to see him doing one of the holy trinity!
@@badnewsbruner yes. whats the holy trinity tho? doom, blood, and duke nukem?
Doom 1 and 2 are two of the best games of all time.
Then go through all of the past Cacowards for more or less endless customisation and replayability with total conversions, map packs and more. My personal favourites would be Ashes 2063, Adventures of Square and Pirate Doom **And Blade of Agony
Other games exist.
SaviorAssassin1996 I said two of the best. There’s more games worthy of that title. I also played more games besides these two.
Oh, sorry.
SaviorAssassin1996 it’s fine.
And now, the Icon of Sin, finally has a body in Doom Eternal
I like that this review wasn’t really biased on Classic Doom games and actually acknowledged it’s flaws. That’s something you don’t see everyday when it comes to Doom.
Dalle Smalhals 1993 my guy
Dalle Smalhals actually I didn’t get your question sorry, would you like to elaborate?
Dalle Smalhals I haven’t played Dark Forces tho, I like Star Wars so I might give it a shot
One of the grandfathers that started the first person shooter genre and still holds up til this day. Thanks for the review Gaming Pastime
A outstanding look at the iconic beginning of a wonderful game series, this is the finest detailed profile on the opening games, bravo! My favorite is "Final Doom".
Some of the music from Final Doom is some of the best music in the Doom series.
Fun fact:final doom is based on fan made levels
Well on the internet it says and no not the wiki I don't believe in it cause anybody can edit that
@@GokuFace Funner fact: Final Doom on PlayStation supports the PS mouse, but the game doesn't perform too well on console.
I don't recommend playing that version at all.
@@leegsy Funnest fact: You can play the playstation final doom as a mod on the PC. I recommend playing that version although it is a bit on the easy side compared to the PC version.
@@shroomologist I have PSX Doom TC but I've not tried Final yet.
This is one of my favorite classic FPS trilogy of all time. I play one of these three classic Doom games on a weekly basis even if its less than half an hour. Played through the shareware version of Doom on my dads computer back in the day and played the full retail versions later on a 486 or whatever was available in 1993. Played all the classic DOOM games upon their release. When i had enough money to buy my own computer played the shareware version of Doom back in 2010 to 2012 and bought the first three classic Doom games off Steam. Great review!
This is the largest crowd to ever witness the best game ever played, period!
This is where it all started for me. My first PC, my first FPS game, my first nightmares about demons from hell coming after me. Thank you Id Software.
Me too....first demon i was scared of was the pinkie
Doom was also my first fps game too thanks to my dad even though games like half life 2 were out at the time i first played it, Doom is still my one of my favorite fps games of all time
John Romero (one of the original creators) has released his own version of e1m4 and e1m6 and also a 5th episode of Ultimate Doom titled "Sigil" which I personally consider part of the canonical Doom experience (if you thought Thy Flesh Consumed was hard Sigil makes it look easy). Also look up "Console Doom Enhanced" which are enhanced ports of Playstation/Saturn Doom and Doom 64 (which is a whole new game).
i heard that sigil was an overall disappointing piece of work
PSX Doom TC & Doom 64 EX are now my favourite ways to play those games.
PSX Doom especially was getting a little hard to play as the framerate is all over the place, especially in Doom II levels.
The new Romero single levels are E1M4b (Phobos Mission Control) and E1M8b (Tech Gone Bad).
@@foreignuser_ I presume that info is from GmanLives' crappy/ignorant review, for which he got shat on greatly by the community. Seems you just can't trust people with texture filtering on, who then complain that it's very dark with OpenGL in GZDoom, when it was designed for the original software renderer. : D Also funny, when said person is crying about the wad not having Doom 2 assets, when it was clearly stated that it's a sequel to Thy Flesh Consumed, which is the fourth episode of the first game, so it's obvious that it won't have SSG or "new" monsters in it.
But at least he earned an unsubscribe from me for his amazing work. : D
This summary was brilliant, you just earned another sub!
10:15 An important thing to note: Nightmare also makes monsters move and attack much faster (50% faster IIRC), and their minimum time before their first attack is removed for Nightmare only.
You can actually play with fast monsters on lower difficulties by launching the game with the command line paramenter "-fast" (no quotes). This mode does not remove the minimum first attack time, however.
CZcamsr Decino has a great video explaining the difficulty differences, along with a ton of other great DOOM content:
czcams.com/video/af64p7GxQHU/video.html
czcams.com/video/DyR6qI3kcd0/video.html
I've been dying to see this in ages... And now I am so glad it finally came... THE ULTIMATE REVIEW FOR DOOM
Springy05 This one is good but if you wanna see the ULTIMATE Doom review watch Pro Doom episodes of Civvie11
Nah bro, that would be Tim Roger's (Action Button) review, hands down, no contest; czcams.com/video/38zduHkwGcc/video.html&ab_channel=ActionButton
OMG! This is gonna be such a great video!!! One of my all time favourite reviewers reviewing one of my all time favourite games! :) Euphoria level 100 and rising!
*chugs coffee and presses play*
Elgan Bruner that reply is so fucking reddit bugman soyboy calm down nerd.
I never even knew about No Rest for the Living until this review.
Unfortunately not available with the latest ports
If you have Doom 3 BFG Edition, you can take the Nerve.wad out of that and load it up with say...gzdoom....I don't know if you need Doom 2 as a base but that should be in the BFG Edition too.
Same thing happened to me a few years ago, it just wasnt very well advertised when it came to PC in the bfg edition. (which I didnt buy back then since I already had the other three games in it.)
It came officially for PC via the BFG Edition of Doom 3, but the Nerve.wad file was already circulating on the web some years before since it was released as an expansion for Doom 2 on XBLA. I remember playing the WAD on GZDoom back in 2010.
I first played Doom on the SNES, my dad bought it for me. So glad he did since I was real young at the time and had no clue what to expect!
In my opinion:
DOOM 1- first of it's kind. still badass to play to this day!
DOOM 2- Feels like an Expansion pack but with tons of new content. While I don't think the level design was as good as DOOM 1's, it's still badass to play.
Final DOOM: Plutonia- Probably my least favorite of the DOOM Franchise since it doesn't really show anything new + it's Super Difficult even on "I'm Too Young to Die". This game is mostly made for Speed Runners.
Final DOOM: TNT Evilution- Much better balance than Plutonia. It offers new Music Tracks but content-wise, it's still the same as DOOM 2. Though the game is overall ok.
DOOM 64- Probably the best DOOM game yet. It has a mixture of horror & dark atmosphere like DOOM 3 but still has the badass feel like DOOM 1 & 2. The Guns & Demons has a complete make-over & the sounds effects & killing are satisfying as hell.
DOOM 3- A complete different turn from the franchise. Basically a Reboot of the franchise where now it's mostly Horror instead of being badass. It's not a bad game at all, it's just different.
DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil- An expansion pack for DOOM 3. offers new content, & still not that bad.
DOOM 4 (2016)- Now returning the badass feel what DOOM was meant to be but with a modern twist. It brings back that fast-paced arcade action pack run-n-gun style with some modern mechanics in it. & Still badass to play!
DOOM Eternal- ....I'm waiting...
Mr. Atari 2600 agreed on doom64 being the best
Very well said, my friend. I really enjoyed Doom 3 because of how different it was and the Resurrection of Evil was so much fun! Doom 3 made me yearn for another Doom movie and what a modern Doom movie could possibly look like.
My favorite was Ultimate Doom, and it skyrocketed my love for it when I finally tried the Brutal Doom mod. It never gets old for me
"I'd like to see a new Doom game bring back the Icon of Sin as an animated boss you actually have to fight."
*is reminded I need to watch the Doom Eternal review*
The Icon of Sin from the Brutal Doom Hell on Earth Starter Pack was the best version I think
i finished TNT Evilution more then Doom 2. love TNT Evilution. i cant find any bad levels in that wad.
Quake is great, but the lower enemy count, weaker weapons and spongy monsters aren't as fun. The soundtrack and atmosphere are amazing though.
The monsters are quite agile but really lack that doom 2 level of variety.
This is the reason why I always preferred Doom over Quake, back then and still today, although Quake has its qualities, indeed.
@@rodrigof.r.desouza3587 for me it was the other way around... until the day i tried Brual doom - hell on earth starter pack
“I like to trigger people for my own amusement.” I officially live by those words now!
Hey cool, your origin story shares aspects with mine. My dad used to take me to his office and sit me down at some engineer's computer to play games that probably shouldn't really have been on those computers. First computer game I played and loved was Kevin Bales' Castle Adventure. We played a lot of World Class Leaderboard Golf, and later, Wolfenstein and Doom shareware.
"I Want The Icon Of Sin To Be An Actual Boss"
Doom Eternal: Say No More Fam!
FYI: The BFG projectile is also a form of hitscan. The projectile does zero damage if the target it would have affected isn't on screen when it explodes.
Good choice for the intro music gets you hyped
I currently only have Doom 2 on my Switch, i couldn’t get both at the same time but id rather have Doom 2 first after being so attached to the GBA version.
I suggest getting it on PC. Bethesda ports are, uhhh... not good.
Doom Maker i already do! And i play using ZDaemon. But the Switch version is split-screen, which i also actually use. So i don’t gotta lug around my Xbox or Playstations for that on top of a TV.
@@Demonanimator ZDeamon? Holy hell, that's as not mainstream as you can get. I was thinking about getting Doom on Switch too, but ehh... I've got Delta Touch
@@Demonanimator I use a laptop or PSP for portable DooM.
@Moogle Midgar Also MS has removed all other versions of Doom from XBL so if you're an Xbox owner you have no choice but to play these new inferior versions.
I use Z-DooM to play Doom, unless I'm playing PSX Doom TC where I used GZ-DooM.
For newcomers to this game that want to keep it close to vanilla. My personnal recommendation is PrBoom+. So close to vanilla the demos are compatible with it. Yet has some very handy feature including a proper Widescreen support. Is also legal for speedrunning given that you use the proper "-complevel" setting.
But, if all you want is to experience it like we did in the 90s. Chocolate Doom is the way to go.
By the way, use Plutonia MIDI pack for complete Final Doom experience
And also, would be very cool if you launched your Doom maps!
10:05 "I would love to see a new Doom game include the Icon of Sin but as an animated boss that you actually have to, you know, fight."
It's not an official game but a fan-made add-on (also standalone). Allow me to point you to Brutal Doom, before Doom 2016 was a thing.
czcams.com/video/mRLwLaUTnPY/video.html Edit: Found a better video.
That smooth "thy" flesh consumed is diamonds
I've still never actually beaten Doom II
Gotta get on that. I always just get lost at a certain level. But I own 2 copies of it still.
Glad to see you covered Master Levels and No Rest for the Living. Never see them talked about, but I did play both of them in my Classic Doom playthrough (along with some mods that port console exclusive levels...) HOWEVER! You missed Doom 64, which I consider a Classic Doom game, as well.
This is a really good review, much better than mine tbh
Your father knew mature rated games wouldn't damage you too much as a kid and you should be praised for having such parents. Really, I played Turok 2 a lot when I was a kid and even played the hell out of Conker's Bad Fur Day. I still turned out fine too.
Anyway, great review.
I miss skull tag so much. That was my high school bro
you can still use Skulltag though. i still use it. i have tons of wads that can only be used through skulltag. one of my favorite Skulltag wad the name of the wad is
Tribute - This is not the best wad in the world. you can get it here
www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/tribute
7 levels but amazingly made. pretty large levels as well. takes a while to get through it. for a real challenge play it on UV.
My kid told me the other day that he was looking to get into first-person shooters. I grinned and said, "I know just where to start." Father of the year 2019, folks.
Good call, i too am proud to say both my boys and daughter know DooM when they see/hear it...
You should play Brutal Doom : Hell on Earth Starter Pack. It's a brilliant retelling of the original Doom & Doom 2. The Icon of Sin fight at the end is epic & is everything you want. One of the best classic FPS experiences to be had & is just peerless. Add the metal soundtrack for the full effect :
www.moddb.com/mods/recurring-nightmare/downloads/brutal-doom-hell-on-earth-starter-pack
www.moddb.com/mods/recurring-nightmare/downloads/doom-metal-soundtrack-mod-volume-3
Watch Martinoz's playing of it if you want to see it in action first :
czcams.com/video/TrZA6aBfJcc/video.html
Numerous systems is a bit of an understatement ;)
It's literally known for being on *everything* including thermostats etc lol
But yeah. Timeless classic.
Still just as good as it was back when I was a kid. Could sit and play this for hours.
Did you know that Ultimate Doom was ported to Windows 95 by Gabe Newell? He did it when he still worked at Microsoft.
I remember playing this when I was 5 and I was always scared so I hid under a table
I bought Doom 3: BFG Edition for my Xbox 360 and it was amazing! Lots of great stuff on that collection. Anyone who does not have it, you need to find it and play it all the way through from Doom 1 to Resurrection of Evil. What an experience!
Doom is my favorite game and series of all time. I'm fucking named after it. Dalton and I just recently finished a coop playthrough of Final Doom, and I am currently working on a video review of it. I love these games so fucking much. At their best, they are shining examples of FPS level design.
Zandronum is how we did our coop playthrough of Final Doom...and it's how we will do Doom 2 when we do that. Already looking forward to that. I love Doom so fucking much
I still remember the cheats IDDQD IDCLIP.
@Dalle Smalhals there is idfa too
I enjoyed playing Doom for countless hours. I never ever grew bored with it.
For me the Classic DOOM experience contains what you reviewed plus Master Levels outtakes, and the official expansions Lost Episodes, Hell 2 Pay , Perditions Gate and some classic wads. Even some Maximum Doom wads too.
Some mods ads animated icon of sin as a final boss (i guess some iteration of brutal doom), and for what i have seen and played it's great.
What have you done to the hud, you monster.
Absolute agreement. Classic DooM is one of those REALLY few games (with Classic DooM I of course mean ALL of those early DooM-Games combined) that I could and will play forever; be it Vanilla or Modded. Got the Shareware-Version from a buddy in school back in 1993, and luckily I could get my hands on the full version of the game thanks to a small Retail Store-owner who ordered it for me here in Germany (was 16 at that time).
PS: If I had to pick a favorite among DooM and Quake...I also would choose DooM.
Maybe you could share some thoughts on Romeros inofficial 5th Episode "SIGIL" ? I personally quite liked it.
SIGIL released a few weeks after this review was completed and uploaded. We are planning to check it out.
I have the pc version for years, brilliant mods and source ports. I really hope nerve can fix the aspect ratio sound and frame rate issues
On the one hand, it's so great to see Final Doom getting the shine it has.
On the other, where the hell were you when it first dropped?
5:56 “[The BFG can] _decimate some of the lower-tier enemies in a single shot.”_
Those “lower-tier enemies” include the Cacodemon, Pain Elemental, Hell Knight, Revenant, Mancubus, Baron of Hell, Arch Vile, and Spider Mastermind.
So basically everything.
17:55 _"To win the game, you must kill me, John Romero!"_
And it's pronounced Jibs, ya reprobate. Short for giblets. Stupid, I know.
Cool review.
Doom 64 is also part of the Classic Doom era
Wait, Doom has a story?
i really like how you spice up an otherwise analytical, objective review with some sudden subjective thoughts while sounding the same, makes me crack up everytime.
and oh yeah, doom is much better than quake.
(keep up with this, love it)
Glad someone else shares the same opinion with me about DOOM being better than Quake. I’ve tried to get into Quake but I found it hard to do so. DOOM is way more fun for me, too.
Your wishes for an icon of sin fight have been heared apparantly
Indeed
Ultimate Doom - an amazing start to the series
Doom 2 - Good, level design can be a bit weird in some places but still pretty fun and the new monsters and supershotgun are great
TNT - Good, a little weird arround maps 22-26 though
Plutonia - Alot of really fun and challenging maps, probably my favorite of the IWADS level wise
Doom 64 - Ambient and pretty interesting
Doom 3 - Haven't played it yet
2016 - a bit fun in places, a bit frustrating sometimes, not as as good as any the classic doom games but still alright, i still have yet to fully complete it
Eternal - haven't played it yet, still trying to beat 2016 before i start this one
Doom Eternal is much more challenging & fast pace.
It easily triumphs the 2016 Doom game making you use every resource available to survive.
While a good game, DOOM 2016 can’t hold a candle to the level design and gameplay loop of the OG DOOMs.
both are FPS games, but comparing them isn't quite fair. they are generations apart, made by different teams, different graphics, music, controls... I love DOOM as a whole. it's like comparing Gold against Palladium or Platinum... they're all valuable and have their uses.
You just nailed the good and bad things of the two games. Timeless masterpiece, and yeah, the inside maps while very linear, but they don't give you the bullshit factor that much.
Thanks for uploading this review video! I've been on a binge watching fever on anything Doom related since Quakecon 2019: Year of Doom event.
I appreciate how you discuss the pros and cons of each game's level design and your passion for this legendary FPS franchise.
I was excited when it was announced both classic Doom games and Doom 3 were released on the Switch although I only bought Doom 2 because I had already played the first game on PC during my childhood and felt this would be an expansion pack with extra enemies and more varied level design plus no Doom experience is complete without the Super Shotgun. I might also buy Doom 3 next just to see how it stands up as a action horror game more than a traditional Doom game.
I hope they also release Doom 64 before Eternal comes out. I think they're saving it for a remastered version which would be awesome.
ArkhamGhost24 The DRM isn’t that big of an issue. The actual issue is how they screwed up the music and the Easter eggs like the Wolfenstein level being censored and the nine inch nails Easter egg being taken out.
@@ihatestairs9034 Yeah that's really disappointing. That's why I hope Bethesda wises up from their DRM fiasco and just remove the sign-in process through an update.
Do you have to log in to Bethesda.net? 🤔
I had forgotten that they used wolfenstein sprites in Doom 2 level 31, now i realize that there's yet another unmetioned error in the recent rerelease on switch. In this version all the enemies are normal zombie soldiers...
Oh cool, you had a similiar childhood. I started my gaming "career" being 4 playing doom :) also wolfenstein and dukenukem
You played on Ultra-Violence? I couldn't finish the Game on the easiest Difficulty...
Lets Die Together thn lul 😈😎😜😈
@Tw1st3dG4m3r Maybe he hasn't figured out how to strafe yet? :p
I always play on ultra violence, recently finished doom 2 on Ultra-Violence, it felt great
great games. i remember my first DOOM was bought randomly at target on CD for my PC and it was in a jewel case that said something like "Version 6.66" lmao
Doom 2 is my favorite game of all time.
Nice Review dude. I have beaten all these games multiple times, but could still listen to people literally talk about them for hours. In my humble opinion, the Doom Franchise is the best in the FPS genre. The first one came out when I was 4 and Ive always been aware of first two, but ironically Doom 3 was the first one I bought and I loved it so much it made me check out the classics. By now, I literally love all of them except for Doom RPG and Final Doom. Its funny, people say this series is a one trick pony which is kinda BS. The first one was a gamechanger, the second one upgraded everything that was great about 1, the third one made 15yo me crap my pants, Doom 2016 is an excellent return to form and the guys at ID consider Doom Eternal to be their Evil Dead 2. Which can only be a good thing. Good times ahead for those who love to rip and tear :)
After finishing doom eternal I'm rediscovering my love for the classics, and brutal doom in particular has completely changed the game. If you haven't tried it, please do. Also you mentioned wanting a slayer soundtrack, on moddb (dot) com, you can find 5 different volumes of rock and metal covers and interpretations of the original midi tracks. These + brutal doom makes for one of the best fps experiences I've ever had, standing alongside Eternal in my eyes.
Okay, honestly I think Ultimate Doom is just so much better because the levels are just sooo much more fun to play than Doom 2's.
"Doom is better than Quake, fight me." aaaaaaand subscribed...
Yes, miserable 2.5d is better than 3d full immersion.. no fighting.
Knee Deep in the Dead is my personal favorite.
I think I prefer Quake to Doom. I know you aren't big on the atmosphere but I eat that shit up. I've never seen anything like it in most other games. But what really keeps me coming back is the controls in quake. I love the effortless weapon switching, the fast speed which gets faster when you bhop, and how aiming and jumping really changes the game from it's predecessors. I do really enjoy classic Doom but I've never beaten them myself for some reason, I gotta get to that.
I love the original doom series I was born just a year before the original doom came out,I just need to buy doom 3 next time I get paid
You could check out Smooth Doom, it's basically Brutal Doom without altering gameplay
I’d consider clipping the review for separate versions of doom
10:04 your lucky your wish has been granted the icon of sin is in doom eternal and its animated
Great review!
I still wished No Rest For the Living had gotten the love it deserve
Wolfenstein Doom and Doom2 were written by a bunch of young blokes creating a game they would enjoy playing themselves. Everything after that they wrote to accentuate their programming skills, which is why after a couple of plays they become boring.
Lol it was the polar opposite for me. When this game came out I wanted to play it SO bad, but my parents were the type that would let me stay at home alone but couldn't play games like this. So guess what I did? Played games like this when nobody was home lol. Had my hidden installations of these games and when nobody was home it was time to break em out & have a ball.
Awesome review! THX!
Gaming Pastime: Doom is better than Quake
Me: *laughs because I love both the same*
No comments on Sigil wad, released by John Romero this year?
This review was completed and uploaded a few weeks before Sigil released.
@@Gamingpastime64 It would be great if you made a separated video for a review of Sigil and also Doom64ex (a pc port of Doom 64).
He was definitely playing Plutonia on a low difficulty setting otherwise he would have been screaming out in pain when he talked about it.
I can confirm I was not. I played on Ultra-Violence in each game.
Have you tried Smooth Doom or Beautiful Doom
You’re good at making videos.
can you please tell me what editing program you are using because i have strated a channel and i feel like i need to make my videos more entertaining. if you could tell me i would be happy :D idk whats good out there??
Adobe Premiere
Never to old to slay hellspawn
Played nothing but Doom 1993 and Doom 64 the last 2 weeks. Never played them before.
Examples of good games who nobody can say they are bad games. :)
The element of sin might the titan from the trailer of doom eternal
They're not games, they're wads, maps, or levels.
Best game ever