The Art of the Lucksman
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- The perfect pick for any fellow gambling enthusiasts. And yes, Crazy Dave is my canonical publicist now. Hopefully he becomes a regular.
And yes, what I said about Hanzo and Overwatch was a joke.
I would like to note that @HintShot made an excellent video called 'Art of the Backstab'. I actually had this 'Art of...' series planned for my old channel back when I played League of Legends (i.e. 'The Art of Nasus Jungle') so it just happened to coincide with that video's name too.
0:00 - Luck
0:51 - The Huntsman
5:18 - Skill?
6:22 - Secondary 'Discussion'
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#tf2 #teamfortress2 - Hry
![[TF2] A Mann's Guide to the Beggar's Bazooka](/img/n.gif)
FOR ANY CHOPPA ENTHUSIASTS, HERE IS THE MOD: gamebanana.com/mods/206363
EDIT: ALSO YEAH. THE HANZO THING WAS A JOKE LOL. LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN @ 0:50
Hi
El minimum o
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Thank you
Holy shit dude elmaxo liked your comment
Bruh i was using this gangsta mode for so long and now i saw it in your video XD
Wow this loadout is so good, I went into a payload server after watching this and kept killing this one spy named exlamo or something like that.
you moderator status is coming in to question right now my dearest Corey
@@elmaxoTF2 who is this corey person, I am clearly Dullpixel, a legally seperate entity
@@CoreyTF2 Yea man can't you read?
@@elmaxoTF2 Corey in the house reference?🤪
I remember I was playing as scout, a huntsman arrow was fired at me, and I pressed my strafe key, and apparently I didn't move far enough, because I teleported 0.5 seconds back into the past and got hit by the arrow.
the huntsman is theoretically the only sniper primary with random crits, and the only weapon in the game able to randomly crit when the setting is turned off
are you sure
@@Galacticbraindentist yes
Every time you fire the huntsman down a choke there is about a 20% chance it will deal 360 damage out of nowhere
@@La-Machina game says its a 20 but feels more like 60
Took me a sec to get the joke.
I cannot get over how your sniper holds that SMG. Easily the best part of the entire video
boa
choppa.
I'mma now call it the choppa
how does it do that though? Is it just something for the aussie smg or is it a custom viewmodels thing?
@@simpIeidiot hundred round drum killin everybody
Soldier: "Stop using those flying sticks and get a real gun!"
Sniper: "Mate, that's a plank of wood with a nail in it that your holding."
"I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee- I still have no idea how that was even remotely close to my head hitbox."
you were standing close to a dispenser
"Valve added the Huntsman because the popularity of Hanzo from Overwatch."
That better be bait.
Definitely
look at the top left of the screen as I said that
@@elmaxoTF2 Oh you little...
@@elmaxoTF2 TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO, YEHYEYE YEEE
HAHAHA how dare you.. jumped in the comments as you said that
I can't believe you forgot the most effective point blank defense in the game, or as I like to call it the "Stab Stab Stab".
STABBY STABBY STABBY
Stabby stab stab!
Honestly impressed that you managed to get Crazy Dave as your publicist
let's hope he doesn't call elmaxo for bowling every 5 seconds
@@AnesTheIdiot "hey Niko, it's Roman. Let's go bowling"
"huntsman takes no skill"
meanwhile i'm over here getting faaarrr less headshots with it up close than i am with a normal sniper
Humble bragging in CZcams comments WeirdChamp
@@ziggle5000 i wasn't bragging, i was saying that i suck with huntsman
@@grimace3983 humble bragging is the opposiìte of bragging but in a bad way
@@EmbeJuicemazzopazzo that is not what that means
Yeah me too i get instantly killed when using it while with the machina well i dont do that much headshots but hey at least i kill
CHOPPA WONT MISS
also other than the cleaner’s carbine, the smg is the only secondary that can deal damage lmao
i acutally purchased his CHOPPA WONT MISS smg (old one) but i think he is using a new aussie CHOPPA WONT MISS and is it a community server? im pretty sure it is cuz thats some nice smg equip.
Jerate does appetite and ego damage
correction, cleaner's carbine cannot deal damage
@@rafradeki until you pull out the bushwaka.
Then you can kill god.
Cleaner's Carbine shoot Frozen Peas
So...
5:27 my man got Crazy Dave in his contacts
WAIT BRIKSTER?
*“There is no bad huntsman user , it’s ‘Unlucky’ huntsman user.”*
- Dewill
"The Lucksman, or something often mistakenly referred to as the Huntsman."
Laughs in fortified compound
*2fortified compound
man you're crazy with this output. and your views are nuts too. great stuff man, keep it up!
okay but have you considered using the cleaners carbine instead? since you'll have to finish off a lot off enemies with it you'll actually fill the bar AND the most fun part you can do the old suprise crits with the bushwacka without alerting ppl to it with jarate
Huntsman with mini crits can kill god
Funniest thing: you can full charge bodysuit medics with mini crit luckman, lol
I use Huntsman, carbine, and shan-whatever.
Lemme tell you, that is THE MOST agressive sniper loadout in the game.
"Fuck camping, I'ma spam arrows on the frontlines."
Cleaners is a decent sidegrade but if you miss your arrow on someone closing in or they’re a high health target, you really want the smg.
@@evangonzalez7732 I use that same primary and melee with stock, and you and FishStick have back to back convinced me to try out the Carbine
I kind of feel bad for the spys who get picked off because they exist within the same mile radius as an arrow.
"Following the overwhelming response to Hanzo in Overwatch, Valve decided to add-"
My logical brain: "He's clearly making a joke."
My knee-jerk brain: "KILL. KILL. KILL."
my all time favorite screenshot is when i went to a server and tried learning airblast counters.
but i just anihilated the huntsman snipers so hard they told me they understamd i am good and i should leave.
still have it uploaded on steam. and will always be proud of that one because i just stomped the via luck,
i was the lucksman hunter
If you DO want to get into some of the nuance, the arrows are more likely to literally latch to an opponents head if you are BELOW them when you take the shot. Literally intentionally taking low ground or even something as small as crouching before letting the arrow loose will increase your success rate at hitting headshots a good degree.
Also, crossbow bolts move in the same arc and speed as huntsman arrows, so playing med is an AMAZING way to get better at huntsman shenanigans.
Man I love the beggars bazooka because I like luck and RNG, I think luck and RNG are the best game mechanics in the world. They must've been made for games or something.
It can sometimes annoying when someone use it against you. I once see a guy fired 3 crit rockets at once.
@@user-ix3xi5st6f There's an achievement for something like that
@Gaming Time and thats what i hate about them, i dont actually have nearly any input
@@Helperbot-2000 sounds like a Luck Issue
Reject order return to chaos
I love how the huntsman uses the projectile hit box that then checks what the closest main hit box is, making headshots so much easier to hit.
I had no idea how much I needed the knowledge that you can make sniper shoot his smgs like this 5:26
Wait dave in Team Fortress 2,?
Now I actually know how the huntsman projectile actually works, and it isn't luck based at all, but more like the hitbox is just huge in some scenarios.
Hitboxes are something we are all familiar with, the boxes that make up the model of a player, if a hitscan bullet hits one of these boxes, it will register as a hit.
Projectiles use Collision boxes, not hitboxes. Collision boxes are just 1 big box all around the player, that is the same size for all classes. If a projectile hits one of these collision boxes, they will count as a hit. Collision boxes are called "collision" because they are also used for the maps, and use collision boxes for when you collide with something, or some one. Each player has both of these on at the same time, and come in to play for whenever htiscan, or projectiles head their way.
All the projectiles can't headshot, besides one. The Huntsman Arrows. It's a projectile, but it has to headshot. Remember Collision boxes are just 1 big box, if a projectile hits, it is a hit. To compensate, since they both are active at the same time, arrows use both htiboxes and collision boxes. If it hits a hitbox, it's a hit. Hits a head hitbox, it's a headshot, buuuut, if it hits a collision box, it will locate where on the collision it exactly hit, and it goes to the closest hitbox. So if it hits the side of the collision box, it locates the closest hitbox to where it landed and relocates to that hitbox. Since heads most of the time stick out from the body a lot, a lot of the collision box is more head hitboxes then anything.
Basically, huntsman arrows just have a 2x bigger hitbox for enemies. It makes sense because well think, it's a projectile, so it has arc, no scope, takes time to hit your target, and hitscan doesn't have any of that jazz to deal with.
Since scout has a pretty tiny, skinny body, he has small hitboxes, but since collision boxes are the same size for all classes, this makes scout have a HUGE area on where you can hit him with your arrows. Heavy is the largest of course, normally heavy is the easiest to hit because of his slow speeds and huge hitbox, but the collision box veritcally is about the same height as heavy, leaving a small area of heavies head hitbox left, unlike scout.
In summary, nothing about it is luck based, just a big, big hitbox.
The more i use huntsman or lucksman, the more kills i usually get from sniper, because i found myself most of the time hitting bodyshots and when i use the lucksman, i just don't pray for the best, but pray that a pyro won't reflected it. Oh yea, you forgor to miss out the fact that if an "airblast pro" pyro knows what he is doing will be capable of killing your own arrows
am i the only one who's never had luck with the lucksman? Like i nearly exclusively get body shots even when hitting them pretty much on the neck and dont even mention getting corner spam kills. Is it really just hyped or am i unlucky and bad?
Same here
lucksman is just a meme man.
I've encountered a few very insane huntsman player, consistent headshots always top scoring.
-And same here I suck at the huntsman and rarely get kills unless enemy just doesn't move. Truly unlucky.-
Exactly, that's because all Casual players can do is whine about it.
I love those custom smg models so much
4:36 "Get down Mr. President" Kill made me laugh a tad harder than expected
That troll face behind Hanzo.... I had to make sure that was a joke XD
Valve : makes soldier demo and scout classes absolute funfests with overtuned stats, game changing mechanics and fun high mobility
Valve giving the sniper one item that actually allows him to play the game differently : *stupid idiot sniper you're bad and should feel bad*
It uses the bounding box and a third of that bounding box gives a headshot, so no. The huntsman is bullshit
If the weapon wasn't broken it wouldn't be a problem but it is. Not the sniper player fault but the luckman is indeed total bullshit that needs a rework.
I wish I was lucky enough to have Crazy Dave call me on a Sunday.
Great editing, love this kind of video. Makes me click on your vids when I see them
By the way congrats on the big growth recently
The memesmann just the fact that you can pin enemies to the wall is hilarious.
3:00 some employee spilled ketchup on their keyboard
As someone currently maining sniper for no greater or more interesting reason than "My aim is shit so let's go trial by fire", the lucksman fills me with an unspeakable contempt.
Fun Fact: Random crits actually do not benefit worse players! In reality you have a higher chance of random critting if you are doing a lot better than everyone else. So the system is already benefitting the good players (valve moment).
For those """"rare high moments""""
There is also some strange quirks of that system iirc, such as Engie's sentry damage counting toward his own crit rate, or a Medic's healing being counted as damage dealt.
Thank you for reminding me that the TRUE Choppa animations exist, as I have now realized a way to make them work with my other animation mods. This video was truly life changing.
those SMG anims make me actually want to use it
4:07 you killed "Unlucky."
We had the cult of the classic, now behold the legion of the lucksmen
I love trying to spot myself in these videos after i see you messing around on the server, always a treat to run into you on there
4:21 MOM GET THE CAMERA I'M FAMOUS
I think everybody now wants a huntsman live commentary
Can't believe Elmaxo is a fan of Choppa posting, this is the best day of my life
Bruh this video was so well done omfg, i don’t know why i just starter watching you!
Didn't know that "Crazy Dave" plays TF2! Keep it up elmaxo.
Awesome vids mate
hearing crazy dave ramble in the background is pretty funny
recently just found your channel i really love this content
I like to use the cozy camper with the lucksman cuz if you don’t miss you can easily roam the map solo
That freeze frame of the civilian-posing spy sent my sides out of orbit. Thanks.
The headshot hurtbox is stupid and it is easy to get accidental kills, but there's legitimately a lot of skill involved in learning your opponent's movement patterns and predicting where they'll end up. It's read, like in fighting games.
YOU HAVE DISHONERED MY COMRADS IN THE HUNTSMAN CLAN, FEEL THE WRATH OF HITBOXES
I was the spy that decloaked and got headshot at 5:44. And yes I am an idiot
The thing about the Choppa is that equipping it the menu gives you a taste of the Newtron Style.
The flip side to that jank ass head hit box is sometimes you like up a headshot on an idle player that's guaranteed to hit and it somehow just bodyshots or misses instead
0:07 Mr Game and Watch is the meaning of luck
“Luck is like man milk, very rare.”
-Bilbo Baggins
What?
I was never a good sniper....... but the huntsman bow works in a mysterious ways..........I love it.
2:33 so THAT's why I randomly had my arrows going off in random directions. I was holding it too long. Good to know
Lucksmen is probably my favorite thing in the game as neither you nor the opponent know how the hit box will work.
One time I came back to tf2 after a long time and hopped on a server, after a while I became bored and asked to anyone in the server which was the hardest playstyle/weapon to use. A guy answered "probably the huntsman", from.that day, I picked only sniper with bow and arrow and then...you pretty much summarized my experience with it :). Aside from peeking, I think it takes more skill to actually see advantages and opportunities, rather than taking advantage of said opportunities.
I once played lucksman in degroot keep and not only got some kills but i also got an achievement for killing an invis spy!
Cleaner’s Carbine is also pretty good with this loadout. Like you said, it takes just one bullet after a body shot to dispatch a light class, so the slower firing speed isn’t that bad. Plus, the mini-crits can actually be pretty effective when you miss a headshot with the bow (somehow) or with the Bushwhacka.
3:14 I was a mercenary like you until i took an arrow to the knee
Literally the greatest summary of the huntsman. I used it against my friends the other night when I got auto balanced and pissed them off to kingdom come. I also just sent this video to them too.
For huntsman yeah, smg or cozy camper are like the best secondaries imo, or cleaners if ya feel like meming with the bushwacka
3:15 i know this was probably just the hitbox bugging but i like to think that the tf team just really loved their old skyrim memes
5:25 Talkin to crazy dave
The bounding boxes for each class...
All jokes aside these videos are pretty daam good, keep it up!
3:13 "I was an adventurer like you until I took an arrow to the knee or something like that"
lucksman was essentially my first ever casual match,, and im still proud of it
5:35 "my name is crazy Dave, but you can call me crazy Dave"
basically the entire phone conversation.
btw if you have the smg that gives mini crits i recommend getting the bushwaka to because the crits from the smg will carry to the melee meaning you literally have a more useful version of jarate
The DDS needs it's extra 25 health back. It's perfect for huntsman snipers, as it lets you be more aggressive. Plus, you can still instantly die to a single quickscope, as a quickscope headshot does 150.
The only problem the DDS had was the bullet protection. Not the health.
The huntsman is by far the most fun primary to use as sniper unfortunately you still have to play sniper to use it which means its one of the least fun things to do in the game
As a Sniper main!!:
Yeah he a lil jank but we love him
Wow! Overwatch game out in 2009! Man. All those memories.
on thundermountain i was soldier defending last and no one was around so i fired a random rocket to a passageway and it happened to be a crocket and a spy happened to run into it. i cant get it out of my head it was hilarious
I approve the diss on thunder mountain
I love how fucking the "publisher" is crazy dave from plants v zombies
The most satisfying thing in TF2 is hitting a perfect airblast on a huntsman arrow and headshotting the sniper who fired it.
It's uses the bounding box which is a big rectangle that's the same for every class to register hits. If it doesn't hit the class' hit box but hits only the bounding box it teleports itself to the nearest hitbox to where it hit on the bounding box. So effectively it screws over scout the most and heavy the least since scout covers very little of his while heavy takes up most of his
Not just that, but like 1/3 of the entire hitbox redirects the arrow to the head
@@Helperbot-2000 it's so weird
@@ZaTrapu very
@@Helperbot-2000 mhm
never played this game heard about it in the past never watched anything about it but ur videos make this game seem very fun lmao
3:15 for server it wasn't me
Spaghetti code helps the lucksman just as much as it hinders em
I like the fact that you are using the "gangsta smg" animation
I swear to god that animation gives you %100 dmg + accuracy
Dude... That smg animation...
I neeeeed it
damn bro why did you have to show a jerma and star clip now im legally obligated to watch the complete jerma and star tf2 playlist
5:30 *casual Crazy Dave noises*
Is that a gangster smg viewmodel mod. I love it.
Great video, but I need to know what did you download to have that smg animation
yoo t hat smg animation is sick
Thats music is lit!
Randomly headshotting a rogue scout with the huntsman feels almost as good as reflecting huntsman arrows back into snipers
huntsman vid pog
For some reason I can’t play any class normal so I have my own subclass called the AC1-30 trollldier where I use the air strike and the parachute
Aim arrow at head, Aim rockets at floor, put stickets on corners. You create your own luck. This is a game of chance.
loving the custom smg animation, where did you find it?