Incredible New Dapol GWR Manor Class | Unboxing & Review
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0:00 Intro
3:19 Unboxing
8:26 Prototype Info
9:24 Detail
17:34 Mechanism
21:08 Performance
25:57 Haulage
31:31 Ratings
34:55 Conclusion - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I really wish manufacturers would include a driver and fireman figure. Nothing more unrealistic than a driverless loco barrelling down the track.
Some manufacturers do at least here in the US Like Broadway Limited Imports and MTH (Which bus under new ownership) there are those in other scales that do it as well but it's not universal across the board.
Not hard to add yourself
Gotta agree. My Smokey Joe came with a driver n fireman and while I didn't get around to painting them til recently they're now one of my favorite parts of the model due to the open cab showing em off so well
I wish they all did too - that'd be cool to see! I think Hornby are starting to add them with some of their new models interestingly!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
If Airfix and other model plane makers can put a pilot in airplane kits for the last fifty years we should expect crew too.
This is where I think the smaller companies really shine as they produce really fantastic models that don’t cost an arm and a leg and I’m thankful that companies like dapol and acurascale for these models
You're right - this is outstanding in my opinion!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video Sam. I noticed out of the box, when you were testing it's crawl some of the tender wheels were stalling. Model Railways Unlimited noticed the tender pickups were acting as brakes so he slackened them off. Maybe that would improve its performance?
I wonder what would happen if you switched it's tender with the Mogul, if the connectors are at the same level?
Yes I noticed the same - I guess I could look into that, but I prefer the good connection personally! I'm fairly sure this uses the same tender - or at least a very similar one - will have to double check!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Cheers for the review, been on the fence about the dapol one as i have a Accurascale one on preorder. Looks like i have to manors now on order. Thanks for the handy link
Fabulous as always Sam, thank again fo all that you do 👍
Enjoyed the video as ever, Sam. Looks great, brilliant value for a new model and even the power "issue" wouldn't detract from owning one. And having been at Didcot Railway Centre today I now have a hankering for a GWR model. This video may have been badly timed for me!
Great review of a wonderful model. Mine's been running round since it arrived from Rails on Monday, hauling a heavy train of Hornby Pullmans, including the 12 wheelers, all with lights (and therefore drag). Great job, Dapol!
That's fantastic to hear - glad yours is working well! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The whole time i was watching this i was willing it to do well in the performance stage got dapol prarie and loved it this again a amazing model at a amazing price as its my birthday this month had a eye on a model to treat myself to but i can see this changing especialy being named after my favorite holiday place lol loving what dapol are doing!
When I saw the thumbnail after coming home from work I was like: YES a new Sam's Train video and also a Dapol model review. They are probably my favourite Manufacturer nowadays. Good price for what you get, good performer, easy to maintain and run as well as amazing quality. Definately deserved rating. Just like you said the finish is so good it looks like a diecast boiler eventhough it isn't. What a beautiful model. Hats off to Dapol as usual and to you for making this fantastic review, Sam 👍👍
haha fantastic - they're getting to become my favourite too, often great work from them these days :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review Sam,lovely model.Picked Compton Manor up last Saturday,great detail and runs well
Hi Sam, Mike and Adi reviewed this wonderful Dapol Manor class with the same enthousiasme as you with a similar note. This is indeed a winner. Agreed the paint finish in satin gloss stands out and the slow speed is remarkable. Value for money is to applaud for !! This is proof that manufactures with a structured management are more capable than the 'great names' out there. And even produce more refined products accessible for every model railroader. This is a remarkable steamer ! Wonder how the Accurascale will compare ... but it already seems a very close match. Thanks for sharing - I really enjoyed this video ! Happy model railroading. Cheers, Filip
Thanks for the comment Filip - easily a winner for me! Long live Dapol
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Really impressive! I'd be interested in seeing some sort of breakdown on how much money manufacturers put into making their model trains in terms of production and design, it's very strange how other manufacturers have models with the same or less features than this one and still price them higher.
I work in manafacturing not for model railways but but big railways and submarine parts etc but now hot it all works , , and in all honesty these models probably cost around £25-30 to make , the real money comes in product development and research and more importantly tool making the tools for these mouldings there realy not cheep , I’ve seen tools for other items sell £3,000-£12,000 so you can image a rough ball point and as this is mass production there is a fair few tools. Not only this production samples will cost more and the all the staff who work on the project need to be payed as well , so that’s where the money goes , and I have to say £140 to me is a verry fair price , especially the fact it’s a new tool , the fact of the matter is is there still making a substantial profit on these models and there in for the hobby as where hornby are just in it for the money , I’m afraid Charing £180 + for a model with toolings made 30 years ago shocking quality and lack of care is just disgusting and shoes the harsh reality of what the company had become !
Thanks a lot for sharing guys - and Lym, I've heard very much the same from others in the know as well... that said, I agree the price here is very reasonable!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks for the video Sam love watching them!
it's a pleasure, that's great to hear! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review Sam!! I’m loving what Dapol are offering at the moment and I’d love to own one of these locos one day. It seems like they genuinely care about the customer experience and that is a fantastic differentiating factor in this market.
Thanks Harry - I do too - they seem to offer quite a bit of good will!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
They are indeed great models, I’m very happy with mine as well. Deserves top spot for sure.
Thanks Robin - that's very good to hear!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review as always Sam. Thank you for showing me what an incredible loco this is and helping me decide to buy one. I have now bought one in BR lined black livery and am very happy with it but I have noticed something odd and it's my manor runs more like your GWR mogul at 50% speed compared to your manor. I'm not sure whether or not yours is supposed to be as slow as it is. Glad to see you're happy with yours and most people are happy with theirs.
I don’t event collect model trains, or anything similar, yet this video appeared in my feed. I watched the whole thing while eating beakfast. Very relaxing start for today :)
Watching this whilst running in my Hook Norton Manor on my layout. It’s a top notch loco
Yaay!! I knew a 9 would come along sooner or later. Great stuff Sam...all the best.
Definitely - and this one really deserves it too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review Sam I’m very pleased with the one I purchased.
Have you seen the D1 dapol are making ?
great model train review keep up the great work
I'm glad this model was good. I bought the BR lined green one on release, and I've been sweating bullets on whether or not I would get what I paid for. Glad to see I will when it arrives.
I noticed during the "crawl" test that the centre wheels on the tender are/were draging. Not turning freely as they shpuld do, I would think that this could be caused by the pick ups putting slightly too much force on the wheels,. Might require some adjustment, Even after running in the cetre wheels on the tender are still sticking . Although you did notice this, !
I noticed the same on another first look video.
Yes that's true - and you're right about the pickups - I will look at adjusting these!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow what a loco! I totally agree some LMS locos from Dapol would definitely be welcome. A Claughton from them would be awesome!
What a loco indeed - and it would be great to see something from the other big 4 companies - fingers crossed!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm in for some BR standards from them, a 9F with this level of quality would be a game changer. I'm in for a 4MT tender mogul in the 76000 series if they want to provide. There is also a slap in the face to give to another manufacturer if they do a 45xx at their present level of quality...
hi sam. this is a model that can win a persons heart...a wonderful looking model..the tender/ engine coupling is brilliant. a lesson accurascale need to take onboard. as they have quiet a few minor improvements to be addressed on there models. one is their coupling on their manor as the tender is fixed with the loco with very restriction removal.. which they say to separate them only when servicing or repair..
Hi Sam, thanks again for sharing your review with us. I think your review is quite accurate for your model. Lots of great features and the dcc chip access is the best and is the only manufacturers innovation in making it easy. At least it allows models to be chipped later after the extra details added and is protective so as the extras are not damaged. Personally I think the performance was a little sluggish, but on your layout it shows how much it is affected by not so perfect track. I like Dapol models, and although I model in N , I have had only a couple of Dapol locomotives ( sadly not at the moment) and never had any problems with them. I have a few Dapol wagons and the levels of detail and free running is far superior to GF and Peco , and often better value. Keep up the great reviews, hopefully Dapol will bring out a couple of Southern Locomotives soon. I think they would do other regions proud.
It's a pleasure Paul - very innovative isn't it? Maybe a little sluggish, but overall no major complaints!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I've ordered an accurascale one. Will be interesting to see how it compares, after their Deltic though I'm optimistic. For the price it blew hornby out the water
Sam, another spot on review. I have just received two of these from pre order over a year ago? DC Torquay Manor and DC Fringford Manor.
To compare. My buffers are both straight, both have no moulding marks on tender hand rails (I would not have spotted them as plastic. Fringfords middle tender wheel sticks, Torquay tender wheels do not stick. Both have noisy tender wheels.
Paint on chimney is poor (the prairie has a metal chimney? And the mogul is black paint)
All have really good green paint un.ike many Hornby models with insipid grey green plastic.
Noth have realistic speeds gearing seems about 10% faster than real life.
Interestingly, both run much better on my PWM dc controllers than my old H&M Duette.
Will have to do a second opinion video...
Sam I will be collecting mine on friday, very good review I just hope there are not many fragile parts on it
I want one, interesting to see what Acurrascale com up with with just the three pole motor. Love the finish and detail. Other manufacturers note the price. Would be my third Dapol release when I can justify it. Go Dapol! Cheers as always Sam. 👍
Nice Sam! I love GWR Engines! They are the best! I liked the review!
I want to see dapol making LNER locos with their quality. I always love the LNER. Escpecially want to see the Peppercorn A1 & A2 redesign since last time Bachmann made them a decade ago.
By far the best locomotive you’ve reviewed all year
Great videos, Sam! Will you be producing a video comparing the Accurascale Manor with the Dapol version?
Just got my Manor 7810 Draycott Manor surprised yours ran slowly at 50% mine is a fine and will run at unrealistic speeds as well .And is even better at slow speed/crawl on DCC .A contender for model of the year.
Dapol's new GWR Manor locomotives are superb models. Plus, this particular model has a reasonable price from Dapol themselves and retailers Sam. Dapol is really on fire because of their marvelous engineering solution and reasonable prices on their newer models.
They sure are Bryan - the reasonable price makes it even better!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Interesting, string of good locos recently,, always nice to see fair models.
I ran one of these on my layout a few days ago. When coupled to 5 Hawksworth coaches made from Mopok kits it completely failed to move them - phenomenal wheel slip.
Hi Sam, perfect review and I fully agree with your findings. I am delighted with mine, not sure if you saw any of my videos? One thing for you, the tender wheels have a bit too much pickup drag, this steals traction from the loco but its a super easy fix. Check my Facebook group or community tab for photos. Fixing the drag on the Manor class tender wheels. (1) Referring to the manual turn tender upside down and remove the four screws, one in each corner. (2) Remove the four further screws from the weight and speaker mount as shown, also assist the wire out through the hole. (3) You can now see the pickups, a great idea they rub on the tops of the flanges so should not get dirty, gently flex the pickups up and away from the flanges until they are just touching. Reassemble, make sure to lube the axles.
😂😂Sam giving us a wave on the safety valve bonnet great vid Sam
Just an add-on : I've run mine and, two points :
1) yes, she is sluggish out of the box, but she improves on running
2) she is a better runner at 80% throttle than at 50 %, and I thing this setting (I call it the aviation setting, planes flies at 80 % throttle in cruise) is the one intended. It is the one for continental models too (my famous 0-10-0 Brawa...)
3) DCC is a good idea on her, or a nice pulsed current controller in DC, even if she is not bad with my little Gaugemaster Combi.
I see Dapol have put quite a bit of their R&D dollars (or, should I say, pounds?) into nice documentation; it looks really professional with color coding to pick out interesting bits that some modelers will be quite interested in. Good job, Dapol! 🎉 It even looks like they have an option for a sound-equipped DCC decoder AND speaker in the smoke box where it makes the most sense! This is definitely something the manufacturers of HO-scale steam locomotives here in the North American market need to pay attention to!
9:42 That just looks like how brass models have done it for a long time, only they used the traditional drawbar method you'd see on a lot of bachmann models, meaning they didn't lock in.
A fab review again Sam. Sadly, I missed this one since I’m working on an extensive review and research paper which needs to be peer-reviewed. My other half looked at it but doesn’t have a YT account. Anyway, she looks fantastic and profusely detailed for the amount, but the centre wheels of the tender aren’t turning cleanly, and the high concern about durability of that make of motor, or rather grave lack thereof is a straightforward no go. DCC on a USB stick and the connection of the two units are smart solutions that must be said, and she looks fantastic. Had the loco had a well reputable motor and the tender normal turning centre wheels, she whole would have been great value. Cherio and Ciao.
Thanks Linda - ahh sorry to hear that, all the best with the research paper though! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Looks excellent and love a Manor but my faithful old Mainline Edlestone Manor still runs really well and looks good so will keep her going a bit longer!
At last a manufacturer producing a quality product at a sensible price. I can see why you are so impressed with this loco. A very fair review.
Sam, great review as usual, but please do take a look at the pressure that the pick ups are putting on the tender wheels. Others have mentioned this and it is very important. I mean how can you expect a loco to perform well if it is pulling a tender with the brakes on!
Would love to see a further report after this production glitch has been dealt with.
I love my Dapol Mogul, but I might wait a while before I get the Manor, as beautiful as it is.
Awesome video today Sam beautiful modle really want one
Thanks a lot James, can highly recommend it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Dapols class 68 another gem . And even cheaper 😀
Wow great, will have to try one!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Lots to like , looks-wise it's excellent and has many nice features.
HOWEVER, Dapol motors do come across as a bit suspect judging from anecdotal evidence from a variety of people. It's something that seems to come up on a regular basis.
This is of course a vital part of the model and it seems a shame that Dapol haven't addressed this. It's an easy fix and surely wouldn't add much to the cost if they sourced some good quality motors. I really don't understand the thinking of cost cutting here when the rest of the model is excellent. It really puts me off buying their locos.
Sam, would it be possible for you to do an updated review on any models where you notice a drop off in performance after say 6-12 months? That would be really helpful.
P.S. Excellent review as ever, keep up the good work.
Great review! I love GWR locomotives, especially a pannier tank engine and have been to the dicot railway centre, also I was wondering what is a decent analogue controller for model trains, I looking at the Hornby HM 2000 controller or the Gauge master GMC-D twin controller as I recently purchased a Intercity 125 electric diesel with executive livery for a bargain price at £39.99 at a charity shop!
Nice model . Others have pointed out that the centre set of tender wheels seem to be very stiff because of pickups causing drag . I did notice in slow speed test that yours didn’t seem to be turning . The drag might be contributing to slow speed
Hi Sam, Nice review, looks a good engine, (what about another review after a few more run's, shame if wasn't so good) All the best Brian 😃
Oh look, a nine! Those have become very rare these days, it’s nice to see one again!
Really sharp looking model, especially for that price. Good to see!
Thanks Lach, I agree!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm sensing a pattern here, what I mean is that accurascale announces they are releasing a locomotive and then another company says they are releasing the same class that accurascale announces and then the other company makes it available to buy first.
Hi sam I hope you're ok This is a very beautiful model it is worth the money nice to see a manufacture care about the customer
Hope you're okay too Lewis - yes absolutely, Dapol have done us proud!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Loving the quality exactly what I expected from The Manor class
Very much so, me too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Easily one of the most anticipated models of this year and all I can say is wow, it certainly lived to the expectations Dapol have with their last few models it nice to see an up to date, modern tooling of the Manor in OO and we won't have to make do the old Bachmann/ Mainline models. The one area where I wish Dapol would improve on though is their choice of motor(s), the past few Dapol releases based on your reviews have been really hit or miss in terms of performance and I really don't trust the motors that Dapol uses and thus their locomotive's ability to perform something which I trust Acurascale will at least improve upon if their Class 55 is anything to go by .
So based upon dapols press material, they have implemented features from the manors into the 2nd batch of moguls, like the reduced gearing, improved firebox flicker et al. I wonder if they will be better than the 1st batch
Bit of a curates egg for me this one. Parts are great, others aspects seem to hark back 20 odd years. Those heavy parting lines which make the boiler bands look misaligned are a huge shame. And like previous Dapol GWR locos I really can't get on board with that plated brass when offset by the frankly crap 'copper' paint. Based on previous models too I also mistrust the innards, I've had nothing but trouble with Dapol PCBs and motors to the point where I still refer to them as Crapol. After the Mogul I had to keep sending back, I remain to be sold on this one and to be honest I'll happily 'miss out'.
Thanks for sharing Simon - yes I wish I had mentioned those parting lines, as they're so distracting in my footage (though not so much in person for some reason). Yes the copper paint is pretty disappointing - particularly as they've used real copper in the past!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Amazing locomotive!
Nice loco and for those who think it a bit slow; just turn up the throttle. Good modelers don't want the scale 200mph runners. Would have liked to see it running on speed setting 75 with the coaches just to see how it handles your layout.
Thanks for the review Sam and looking forward to the Accurascale Manor.
Nice one Sam,👍
Looks a great little model. One thing that I don't particularly like, which seems to be a feature of dapol's 0 gauge locos and the majority of 0 gauge wagons I've had out of the box, are the unpainted tyres of the wheels. I know some locos had polished tyres, but that was just an embellishment and is non-standard. Plus the majority of model steam locos from other manufacturers actually have painted tyres (diesels and rolling stock rarely do tbh, but it's not unheard of, such as the bachmann 47/57s).
I just hope they upscale it to 7mm, because a Manor is the largest steam loco I want in 0 gauge (aside from heavy freight).
Hey Sam, if you had two locos of the same class, one of which looked perfect and the detail was nice and sturdy but ran terrible, the other was the opposite would you switch out the bodies so you had one that looked and ran amazingly
Remembering the issues previous Dapol models had with motors, combined with how impressed I am with the Deltic are why I preordered the Accurascale one instead. Good to see that you are happy with the Dapol one! Personally, I think is should have faster gearing though.
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Yeah that's very reasonable - long term durability does worry me a bit with this... will have to see how that motor lasts!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I hope Hornby is taking notes from Dapol with the drawbar connection! I don't mind Hornby's rigid drawbar connection that is on the majority of my Hornby steamers, but Dapol has the right idea!
Love his layout.....
Nice review.
I may have to buy one now because of you
Awesome - they are very good! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Looks great and the price is great too 👍
Hi Sam. On the whole a rather nice model. I agree with your Quality rating. You didn't mention the moulding seam on the boiler that appears to have disappeared from many recent models. I thought you had missed the "sticking" wheels on the central axle of the tender; would some weight under the coal help - or would this interfere with the slightly diminished Power rating of the model?
Amazing model I'd love to get one for my self shipping will be expensive for the row
Yes Sam, I agree entirely Dapol do need to offer more of the other contingents of the big Four. I always thought it was because they were for a period housed in Llangollen and due to the railways influence that they churned out high number of GWR engines!
They sure do! That's probably why though, good point!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This could simply be a case of history repeating itself. The GWR has always had a substantial and enthusiastic following, sadly, and at one time, in the Fifties and Sixties, most layouts seemed to be GWR branch lines, and a lot of models, both RTR and kits, reflected this. Personally, I'm a fan of the 'Withered Arm'.
Thanks for reminding me you are correct a lot of the PECO kits were also GWR based! A lot of it was on the 'God's Wonderful Railway' acclaimation, particularly as it ran through the 'Heart of England'
A nice Loco you got there Sam & a nice price aswell!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Ordered one in the sound chip version couldn’t make my mind up Hattons must’ve been really upset with me changing my mind about which one to purchase So Sam please review the other manufactures version.
Mine arrives tomorrow... Nothing to add, Dapol follows his policy of "let's make models that kicks *ss with a sledgehammer", and suceeds again. Mogul, then Prairie, and now the Manor. As we say in France, jamais deux sans trois ! For my own, the gearing is OK, I have a Brawa locomotive that runs at the same speed, if not even slower ! Only the torque issue might be annoying in exploitation, but the realistic gearing is a great plus. Sam, just a suggestion : why not a measurement of the speed of the models to see how far they drift (or not) from the prototype speed ? I can do some measurements by my own if you are interested.
For once, I'm happy to have not waited for your review before buying her. So, the gauntlet has to be picked by Accurascale now, we'll see what they will do with their manors...
I’m curious about the dapol tender connections, is it possible to swap the tenders between the manor and the mogul?
Sam you mentioned in your performance review the Manor may run better with DCC. From a review process should you feature the model performance test with DCC for comparison or is it a known fact models run better chipped? A brilliant review.
The new 7th place winner in the top 20 locos you have reviewed in the last 3 years.
Really good model and dapol have done themselves proud. That being said for me Accurascale do have a fair few areas to improve. The main thing is that there appears to be an ugly seam line above the handrail running the whole length. Can’t believe they put the moulding line there.
That being said this is definitely the model to go for if not much of a rivet counter and it’s packed with features and very few areas the factory could have done better. The overall look and cab are top notch.
I tend to do DCC sound and from what I have seen this is one of the areas Accurascale model comes to the fore based on what we’ve seen so far with its dual speaker setup. Not least because they are the same price at £260. Though Accurascale have a load of benefits of buying direct that mean it’s effectively cheaper.
Thanks a lot for the comment - yes well spotted on the seams - wish I'd mentioned them in the video - hopefully Accura's wont be like that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains The Accurascale boiler is die cast metal (as is the chassis and footplate)
Something amiss with that tender - on the crawl tests you can see the engine-tender coupling 'stretching' intermittently as the tender drags. Otherwise a very fine model with great features!
Sam, You have to remember that the GW Manor’s were designed to replace the ageing fleet of Cambrian Railway locomotives operating out of Shrewsbury on the “Cambrian Coast Express”.
The Cambrian, like the Midland, had a small locomotive policy, preferring to double-head (again like the Midland) rather than use heavy large and expensive locomotives as per their green neighbour, the GWR.
A lot of the Cambrian system was rated at just 40mph due to the curvature gradients and poor ground conditions experienced in mid-Wales, with the rest rarely exceeding 60mph.
So to have a mixed-traffic 4-6-0 Manor Class that had a designed top speed of 75mph capable of travelling at 140mph in ‘00’ is totally unrealistic. DAPOL have geared their Manor appropriately 🚂🙂.
Just wonder if Accurascale, following on from DAPOL’s success with their Manor, will now abandon their Manor and reproduce a truly magnificent GW Grange, the very successful locomotives that the Manors were based on? Some say that the Grange’s were the best 4-6-0’s to ever come out of Swindon 🚂😃.
Ohhh if Dapol eventually does an all-new Hall Class, and then Olton Hall in red I'll be very very happy :D
I've got a couple questions
First how do you measure the pulling force on the American locos you review
And second where can I find the scale you use
I notice that your 'Shirtbutton' version has the logo in the centre panel of the tender. I have a 'GWR' version and the G W R seems to be offset to the rear of the tender, which looks odd to me. I have noticed that the G Crest W versions also have this offset to the rear. I am no expert in this, but not having the logos centred on the tender seems odd. What do others think?
Great Locomotive but I am rather surprised you have not mentioned the dirty great moulding line down the length of the boiler albeit at the side.
i love the manor class!
I do too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hopefully the next will be the long awaited Class 59. Already the price is a massive plus just like their amazing class 68. Not sure you have reviewed a 68?.
Nice Sam :)
What happened to the dapol secr d class? If it is the same motore then i Would like to be sure that it will last or at least be easy to replace? If not 5 stars for mechanism might be too much?
Just wondering if you have any 3rd radius curves on the layout?
Not bad at all! Heh.
Meanwhile, I'm super excited about Little Planet's Kerr Stuart Victory. The pre-orders finally asked for the full payment so those should be arriving soon!
Yes those are looking awesome too - can't wait! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm in for one too. RoS does not charge me the full price by now (I've made a preorder in december 21), but I would be glad to have her by beginning of september. I'm also waiting for their Sonic Models A5, same waiting time...
Epic video, I’m wondering if accurascale might be trying to take over the market with common models but are being rather slow about it
Way too early to tell, but if their next steamer is something like a Black 5 or an 8F, I would say that would show intent.
@@madduckuk They have teased an 8F on their Twitter account, so I am excited for that.
@@amazi6542 That's big!
I don't think so: I wouldn't describe the Manor as 'common'. Indeed, it was a gap in the market for a long time - and it seems that Dapol and Accurascale both independently decided to try and fill it (Dapol announced first, but when Accurascale announced, their model was already at quite an advanced stage, and work on it had likely already started when Dapol made their announcements).
Personally, I have no problem with duplicate products - especially in cases like this, where neither of them was likely to be aware of the other's when they started work on it. The only time I *do* have a problem with it is when it's done in a predatory manner - when a company announces a model, and then another company (whose products may or may not come in red boxes and whose name may or may not begin with the letter 'H') rushes something similar to the shops at a lower price in order to undercut them. But even then, I guess it's just business, and if we don't like it then we don't have to buy those products!
An 8F would be very cool to see - Hornby's is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and I reckon Accura could improve considerably on it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'd like them to do a Collett Goods 0-6-0 before they move past the GWR- I guess the old Replica Railways/Mainline model and its descendents are still the most common option there but by today's standards that one is very lacking. A Dapol version made to the same standard as this Manor Class model would be a most welcome edition to my fleet.
Grest that the loco seems to be good.
I don't really like the plastic crosshead. They didn't do that on the mogul so not sure why they would on the Manor.
Are you going to review the accurascale one when it comes out. It would be interesting to compare the two models
I like the Manor class.
Hinton Manor has been tested on my railway, and she runs like a dream straight out of the box. In my new video, I show off her firebox glow which is gorgeous. Thankyou for reviewing Torquay Manor. I love her.
@Alfie Gould Just because you want to get an Accurascale Manor, it doesn't mean you'll be a rival to someone. Stop worrying, Sam and I both have Manor models in our collections. I asked him to review one of the new Dapol Manors, so he did. It's great that you're following in our footsteps. I've found other CZcamsrs who have a Dapol Manor themselves, because I've led the way forwards. Who wouldn't want a new Dapol Manor to play with on their railway? There are a number of CZcamsrs out there who are enjoying running a Dapol Manor, on their railways. As I've said, you shouldn't keep what you want secret. Share it with us, and you'll see how nice it is to share your love for the Manors with everyone on CZcams.
@Alfie Gould I'd love to see your new model.