17 FACTS About John Marston Rockstar Doesn’t Tell You! | Red Dead Redemption 2
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- This took so long for me to make. I hardly ever can find time to upload or make these videos and this one was super challenging. But enough complaining, I hope this found everyone well. Hopefully there’s one or two things here at the very least that you found out about John for the very first time. Trying to find things that I think people might not already know about John Marston was also very challenging than making the video itself. Since he’s been around since 2010 and the series has millions of fans all over the world. But nonetheless a few of these things on the list I never even knew myself until recently and it’s what inspired me to even make this video. A lot of the theories can be found on Reddit such as John’s daughter being named for John’s horse and his blindness and his winter outfits. There are so many Reddit posters that I can’t tell who is the one who made the discovery in the first place for any of these details but I’d look there if you ever want to find out about more things in the game that you might not have known about. #rdr2 #reddeadredemption #arthurmorgan
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@@carlosspicyweiner5851 yep more like all, biggest lie was john blind in a eye nope, (tested for red dead redemption, that guy a fool must not know people close one eye to help sight a gun propper, mainly when using a scope the not used eye gets closed to not mess up the aim with a "ghost sight" (meaning you see thru scope and at same time see what the opposight eye from scope does and you won't be able to hit broad side of barn) glad I'm not only one calling out his bs.
whats the song at 9:53 also love ur content
@antlerr how does this correlate with johns blindness, you're just talking about the fact of arthurs aiming style
What's the song at the start
your channel has been reported for misinformation, have a nice day :)
The fact that John's prologue clothes are patched up if you wear his winter outfit is a small detail but an excellent piece of world building. Easily one the most detailed games of all time.
It's definitely the most detailed game ever made, there is little to no competition
@@-pROvAK I think ghost of tsushima and the last of us part 2 come really close but still rdr2 is king
@@carlinytc7431 nowhere close. There are CZcams channels that lasted years while making weekly videos about 8 hidden details of rdr2. And they still didn't run out of content.
@@carlinytc7431 GoT does not come close and I own both games.
@@ChromeMan04 there is somethings more detailed in got than rdr2. But like I said rdr2 is better
I still can't get over the fact that canonically John can read classical Chinese.
Where?
@@Quickscop3r4u there's a dead Chinese npc east of armadillo in the epilogue. On him there's a note written entirely in classical chinese which john reads and fully understands.
@@Thecircustapes What a legend thank you so much!
@@Thecircustapes if he doesn't read it out loud then chances are he doesn't understand it they
Or like how Jason Brody can read Japanese.
iv always thought that the heartbeat resemble a heart within john marston no matter how bad his actions seem sometimes (rdr1 and 2), and arthur ticking clock in the background resembles his limited time left before his passing
the sounds of the heartbeat are dependent on if youre high honor or low honor for both characters. With low honor there is no heartbeat sound effect because youre heartless.
@@itsgiorno2311 wow thats really cool
I thought it was to symbolize him calming himself and slowing down time (for himself) to take a better shot
Someone needs to test out Jack Marston dead eye
@@itsgiorno2311Really? Have you tried this?
John encourages/talks to his horse. He always says stuff like, “doing good girl” or something like, “we’ve been through it haven’t we?”
He also says that "Show me what you have got"
Usually i have to press G to make him say this, he doesn't otherwise.
I know for certain in a blizzard I’ve had him trigger dialogue. Might just be circumstantial
That’s when the horse stamina core is decreasing, when riding under normal circumstances he won’t do that
c'mon girl one more time
I doubt John is actually blind. Him saying “I got my eye back” is likely him talking about making a good shot than him being blind. Him closing his eye is ment to show how Arthur is more experienced than John as it is harder to shoot with both eyes open. And the eye patch was probably just a cool design rockstar wanted to do.
A bleeding eye isn’t usually as serious as if may look and it would be very wacky if John suddenly regained his eye sight after shooting a bird. Also John would’ve said something to Arthur and Javier if he did go blind.
He could have partial blindness in that eye.
Shooting with one eye closed vs both open is not that simple.
Its generally preferred to train yourself to shoot with both eyes open, but even competitive professional shooters close their other eye sometimes.
@@monkeyman8647 one of the main things that makes me think he isn’t blind is that he doesn’t mention it to anyone
@@Z3ZP didn’t know that. Still unlikely that John is blind though and it’s just that he was trained that way
Interestingly, Arthur’s way of aiming is apparently pretty hard, but a very skilled way of doing it.
It's the best way and the easy way of aiming, John is making it harder on himself and he deliberately also lose a perfect 180° degree awareness.
It's so you don't get tunnel vision
@@birdsteak9267 not easy with iron sights
It's a method that requires some practice to get used to. You'll usually see double when you first start practicing, but after a while your eyes become trained, and the double vision goes away
@@birdsteak9267 John does that due to the blurred vision he has with his left eye. I’d imagine aiming with two eyes while one is legally blind would probably screw up your shot more.
Snipers will aim with one eye closed, then open both to get back peripheral vision. Might be due to Arthur being trained by Dutch, whose father probably trained him. (Dutch's father was military)
(Edit:damn, this turned into the most controversial statement on the Internet lmao)
Interesting
Is that true, why would peripheral vision help with looking down a sniper scope?
@@thewoogs to maintain awareness on surroundings… tunnel vision kills
@@thewoogs What walkr said. Spatial awareness maintained by keeping both eyes open allows for that extra edge in a fight
Only snipers aim with one eye because you cant use the scope on one eye and not one on the other, thats just gonna screw you over while simply sniping
As a sport shooter I'm pretty impressed to see Arthur using both eyes open, modern techniques (of any kind) often have old roots. Works with anything non to very low magnified, pistol or rifle (iron sights back then). As far as magnified scopes you can but it's easier to allow one eye to dilate as needed to get a clear picture, open the other after it's adjusted
I’ve heard in the military, outside of using scoped rifles, soldiers are supposed to aim with both eyes open. This is just something I heard somewhere though so I’m not entirely sure if it’s true
@@theow771 I got family in service tho I haven't served (14y shooting experience tho). Pretty sure it's part of their training
@@Kawaiijihad aiming down a sight with one eye limits you in cqb. you become less aware of what's around you
you really just made john throw up all over jack like that 💀
I still tend to use magnified optics with both eyes open or at least kinda squint a bittle bit, I just dont focus on the off eye
Just to help people out, as I can see some people are confused about it. With the part about Arthur keeping both eyes open when aiming down a sight is a sign of being an experienced gunslinger, is in fact very true. If you close one eye, you lose approximately 45% of your peripheral vision. This is the same with both scoped weapons and iron sight. Now, some may think that losing that 45% can't be too bad as you're already aiming at your target, but you can't be any further from being right. Experienced marksmen will keep both eyes open until they're about to shoot in which they (may) close the eye they aren't using to aim down sight with to better help with taking a shot, then open that other eye again, this is because you need to see not just your target, but what's behind your target, around your target, and there are a few atmospheric conditions that you normally need to take into consideration depending on the distance of said target. If you were in a forest per-se, and you know this forest has mountain lions in them (only speaking hypothetical), and you were about to shoot one before it gets you, would you keep both eyes open to see if there's another mountain lion coming to get you, or close one eye to focus on that singular mountain lion? If you say focus on the singular mountain lion, you aren't going back home.
Hopefully this helps some people with their confusion. If people want to know my experience with firearms, I grew up around guns on a farm, hunted things, received police training and still shoot today.
good point...👍
Comment made just to lick Arthur's boots
Great explanation, mountain lions are solitary animals though.
Yup I close my eye because of the double vision
i have 0 training and have no idea how to aim with both eyes open the normal way, but since i have this weird thing where i see double but i can choose to make nearby things normal but farther objects slightly doubled and blurry, or to make farther objects normal but nearby items doubled and slightly blurry, but if i were to just extend my arm fully i can focus on both a gun's iron sights and things from far away with both eyes opened, just that im seeing two guns instead of one, doesnt matter when i see two guns if im still aiming down the sights
The pants he wears in the epilogue are not the same ones he wears in the prologue. The patches aren't even in the same place. Also, John is supposed to encourage his horse while running. It's a glitch that's in the epilogue that he doesn't. He also has Arthur's body, head shape, and most of his facial stricture.
Yea
They have different bodies and heads. I've experimented with gaining eight for them both. They are indeed different. John even has a smaller body type
@@thisisdumb101 i think people say this because there was a glitch of john having similar weight as Arthur did when he had TB
Yeah its just a glitch he did said those things in rdr1 like "Yehaaw com on come on!"
@@thisisdumb101 not really is arthur body copy pasted and made more skinny instead of his actual body of 1899
Maybe that's the reason the named dead eye in rdr1, because from his right eye he can see normal, but he can also use his left to see things differently using "dead eye" 🤯
This man is on to something!
Interesting theory, but please, stop consuming LSD
Probably the reason John's deadeye is so much redder than Arthurs if he's looking at it through a busted eye
If I recall correctly Red Harlow wore an eyepatch so it might go back further and the 2 you play as in read dead revolver have busted deadeye abilities compared to John and Arthur anyway
Man
Pretty sure dead eye was in red dead revolver
I think it is intresting knowing more about John, because in the first game he comes across as quite mysterious.
Sorry
@@solidsalt3412 tf you sorry for?
@@berkkyboi7390 lmao
I miss when he was actually quite mysterious.
Now that RDR2 exist.
John's past is no longer shrouded in mystery.
I miss when he was this Scarred Outlaw with a mysterious past.
@@KyleEvra i don't think RDR2 retroactively ruins his mysterious past. sure you know him now, but the others don't, and he handles the mystery very well
I love the attention to detail rockstar did making this game. But, as a diehard John Marston fan it baffles me how much is lacking out of his character in the epilogue
I bet whatever is lacking, John made up for it in the 4 years between RDR2 and RDR
@@cliffjumper416I think a lot of who he was, came from the events of rdr2.. So until the end, we dont really see the john we kno from rdr,1.. I think the scene with Rufus (,Name of a demon Alister Crowley befriended who showed up as a yellow lab when summoned, then became a small boy when communicated with.)
When john pretends not to worry, but is terrified of losing the dog while sucking the poison! That's his first real glimpse of rdr1 John! And of course the boat scene with Abigail.. That shows how hes changed and/or more starting to really change.
U have a hardened criminal.. Not like today!!! Killing 1 or 2 ppl and spending yrs in prison.. No! These guys had dozens even hundreds of murders under them. And If the law came? They shot em too, and if they got caught? They usually killed there way to freedom!!! It would take time to become the John and Abigail of rdr1..
He's not out of his character, he's simply more optimistic and easy-going since he wants out of the"game". In rdr1 he's angered with the fact that his family's held ransom, that's why he's more agitated and/or depressed in Rdr1
@@amirhomayoonfarmusicStupidity! John in RDR2 is absolutely nerfed, especially his personality. They had to do this so Arthur wouldn't be overshadowed by him.
@@samuelbrocanelli well, l agree to some extent. In epilogue he's nerfed, but l'd like to think the reason was that he is going to become a farmer and not a gangster anymore.
These were all super cool (as I expect from your videos). The only one I don't agree with is the blind left eye; it usually depends on the shooter and how they were trained as to whether they close or keep both eyes open whilst aiming. It's usually more common I'd say to close one eye.
It’s situational and depends on the time period. Modern training emphasizes having both eyes open, but it takes work to get used to that due to the natural inclination toward tunnel vision. And of course, keeping one eye closed can also be the result of the sun’s position, or a bruise, or blood and sweat.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 Ever been in a shootout or talked with trained and untrained individuals who were?
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 Then you have a dataset. Very good. I’ve found that loud, sharp noises tend to cause blinking and winking reflexes that override the reflex to keep eyes peeled when under threat.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 Ah, but you're missing one crucial detail: if you grow up shooting, *like someone on the frontier,* the flinching is trained out of you in childhood. That's why I started with "it's situational and depends on the time period and region." It's tempting to assign mechanistic explanations to things when we know a little, but having grown up on a wilderness farm, survived getting blown up a couple times, and studied oldtimers from a variety of professions, let me tell you... There are no absolutes here.
And in the late 1800s, it was noted by professional lawmen and many eyewitnesses that people who were confident with guns often shot with one eye closed, even if it was their first shootout, because brushes with death came at you often from an early age. That's not even counting the soldiers, because different units trained differently for different purposes.
All this to say: *It just depends.*
What is interesting tho, even back in rdr1 this was already a theory, since john tilts his head to see with his left eye a LOT, that theory was there loooong before rdr2
Man imagine if Rdr2 has a map expansion on the top of the snow of ambarino, it shows the direction of how the gang escaped Blackwater
Honestly that’s what I was looking forward to most besides seeing the actual Blackwater heist itself.
@@RedsDeadBaby i got a for ya question what is you're favorite Rdrd game and character
@@RedsDeadBaby wish rockstar put effort in a small but effective map expansion of rdr2, maybe an update instead of milking gta online for almost a damn decade
Escaping Blackwater might be a good prologue for RDR3, if it gets made. Something before the events as Mac or Davey or someone else and we get to play as Arthur through the whole massacre and robbery.
@@MegaForrestgump well, if rdr3 is really going to be made. I wish we could play as Dutch, so we know what he has been through that made him do what he did in rdr2. it should be a psychological explanation for all of that since the developer really has a thing for detail.
Its more likely that john's daugther was born between 1907 and 1911 than between 1899 and 1907 because if it had been a recent happening there would probably be some evidence in the epilogue. So jonh's horse being named rachel has probably got nothing to do with that.
If it were between those years, I imagine there would have been a grave marker for her at Beecher's Hope. She was likely older than Jack, and died due to their poor lifestyle choices, running with a gang. Also, nobody ever said she was Abigail's daughter. So possibly a child he had before meeting or settling with her.
@@Hero_of_Legend John said to miss MacFarlane that he had the daughter and years before that he rode in the gang. His daughter was probably born between arthur's death and the start of the epilogue, meaning she would be burried on an unknown place because she may have died before epilogue.. either that or she was born between rdr2 epilogue (1907) and rdr1 (1911) and she may be burried in blackwater graveyard. it's there for a reason, nobody wants to be burried on his own backyard
@@Hero_of_Legend you're so wrong it's not even funny
Nah rockstar forgor his daugther javier knew about her so it needed to be during the gang times
@@Bithe_Get then John lied about her to miss MacFarlane.. Rockstar has made a huge mistake somewhere and it doesn't matter where i guess
About the dead eye sound I noticed the difference of sound between John and Arthur, it was just nostalgic to hear again that sound
John does encourage his horse while running. Also his eyes are still blue in Rdr1, they just have a hint of gray in them.
If you gallop the horse he’ll give it a “come on” or “let’s go” but when sprinting the horse Arthur will occasionally shout “hyah” or “giddyup” while John will just remain silent. Spam the run button and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
@@RedsDeadBaby ok I'll try it out
His eyes are way more grey than blue in RDR. You can compare it using John's introduction cutscenes from the train.
This is news to me. In RDR2, John looks like he has very brown eyes, to me. Arthur had the baby blues, John has the dark hair and brown eyes… I have to figure this out now 😂
@@BennyCadillac John's eyes in RDR2 are straight up blue. lol
7:14 this part I can't lmao 💀
What’s best is how Abigail says “I think it came out pretty good” and John vomits all over the table lmao
@@RedsDeadBaby lmao
For an extremeley detailed game, I find it weird that John in the epilogue is a hybrid of Arthur and John
well we know the epilogue was rushed and my guess why they plastered Johns face over Arthur's body is so they didnt have to remodel all the clothing to fit Johns more skinnier appearance
@@Banjo404he also coulda just thickened up over 8 hears
@@kimoleia9979 well he’s skinny again in rdr1 and it’s confirmed it’s arthur’s body
That's why when I was playing it I thought he kinda reminded me of arthur
"I think i got my eye back" is a figure of speech like saying "im back in the swing of things" He isn't blind, he hasnt literally got his eye back, hes saying his skill level has returned to that of his glory days as a gunslinger
I always found it adorable that Arthur would sketch little pictures of deer and other animals in his journal, little details like that make characters seem so much more human.
Unsure if been commented on before, but the "john/arthur eyes open/closed when aiming" thing may be due to what's called 'eye dominance'. Arthur may be right handed and right eye dominant, whereas John may be right handed but left eye dominant (just means he automatically focuses using his left eye). That would explain why John closes his left eye when rifle shooting (if I shoot a right handed rifle stock I do this). Its a well known fact that experienced hunters/riflemen keep both eyes open when shooting to keep peripheral vision, but *only* if their eye dominance/dominant hand match etc
Thank you for the insight
@@reddrahvett623being cross-dominant is a big bummer.
I'm cross dominant but pretty accurate. But yeah.
pretty accurate of cross dominancy: as a cross dominant person I favorise my eye dominancy over my hand dominancy for shooting purposes
There is eye dominance, but you can always train to shoot with both eyes open, as I have learned from hunter safety
An Eye patch has an tactical advantage, when you outside and go into a house/cave or something, you switch the eyepatch and your eye doesn't have to adjust to the darkness
Funnily enough I learned this yesterday when I was rewatching Alex's spongebob theories
It’s still better to have two eyes, and in a dangerous situation you need peripheral vision, just loosing one eye can throw off your balance it’d have more pros than cons that’s why people don’t run around in eyepatches
@@charles_the_conqueror aye agreed, guess it has it's uses in an desert like area but as you say the cons are drastic
eyelids exist
I like that John's old holster means that he was using a mauser and lost it from the wolves. Meaning the old scruffy looking revolver John is using is just his old revolver that he probably decided to replace with a newer fancier pistol.
Then later he comments on mausers being a new kind of pistol that shoots fast… yeah
its an inconsistency on rockstars end @@georgeoswald4615
Arthur lives on through John's indigestion
Is John's left eye really blind? I mean it was cut up a bit, but it healed. The eye patch he wears was probably just random fun thing they did.
Yeah, him saying "I got my eye back" just sounds like him saying he's got his a back to being accurate
Also the eye patch is worn by Jack if you equip that outfit
Could that be the reason why he always closes it now due to the wolves not only did they leave him with scars but a blind eye
Without being fully blind, his vision could be blurry. With the injury he had, eye trauma isn't far-fetched imo...
To be honest, this theory goes way back to 2010. John, in the first game, had a visible lazy eye and also closed his left eye to aim. People said he was blind in one eye. A lazy eye can also be seen as some damage taken in the eye, or even a glass eye. Anyways, the same was being said about Johnny Klebitz so maybe the fans have a fetish or something idk 🤣🤣
6:55 "I think they came out good" had me dead when john puked 😭😭😭
Johns horse is named after Rachel Alexandra, a famous racehorse that looks near identical to the horse in game. Nothing to do with his daughter.
Also a lot of pooo
interesting that john wears a mauser box holster in the prologue yet in the epilogue when he meets up with charles he is shot by gangsters using mausers and he asks what kind of guns those are.
Idk if John is actually supposed to be blind in one eye, but his zombie costume is also missing his left eye, which is a weird design choice to keep consistent for no reason between two random costumes
The fact that he killed so many enemies with just one eye adds a lot more respect to John
That's why it's called the dead eye!
@@FabioBeckert 🗿
John Marston is not blind from one eye. Having a red eye, which happens when a blood vessel breaks, is usually not a big deal. It looks bad but it's usually harmless.
It is never mentioned anywhere, not even a single line at a random camp event, nothing. Closing an eye for aiming is a common practice and having an eye-patch on an outfit that was only available via DLC means nothing.
@@Mr.Sax.the zombie outfit had that same eye missing as well.
@@therookie5714 He's also missing his mouth and nose. I don't recall people saying he can't smell or him having a speech impediment.
“I got my eye back” I think he mostly means cause he’s very rusty , cause he’s been ranching. In the epilogue he def not rusty when he saves the ranch from those mercs tho so idk. My head cannon now tho is he is blind in that eye, wolf attack plus the deadly assassin outfit having a eye patch
Jack also wears the eyepatch in that outfit.
I suppose he considers himself "rusty" due to the 4 years in between the epilogue and RDR1, the years where he supposedly gave up a life of gunslinging and killing to work on the farm.
I was so sad that the drawings by John weren't as good as Arthur's in the journal, but at least they still have the same icon on the map, I love seeing discovered points of interest on there.
Arthur has been drawing all his life while John just began to write and draw so yea Johns drawing aren’t gonna be as good as arthurs
Arthur's drawings took me by surprise. I thought he was a meathead at first.
If you want to have your map features drawn by Arthur all the entire map...just finished all the point of interests and scour the whole map for all hidden point of interests including in the New Austin since you can access to that area after the Angelo Bronte mission in Version 1.00...in that way John would not do the drawings in the epilogue...
John is not exactly an artist like Arthur. the only time he picked up drawing is because of Arthur alone. he sort of emulates Arthur, because he's using Arthur's journal after all. in an essence, he's keeping Arthur alive in himself
Get to 7:38 and you can see Arthur Marston in all his glory, they did John dirty in the epilogue :/
It's gonna feel weird playing as John knowing his left eye is blind
I always see it now
I didn't know that
Probably he's not all blind, but legally blind (basically, your vision is to bad that you are pretty much blind, yes you can still see things and even being able to walk freely without help, but your vision it's like what? -144p?)
well when you play as him in first person it seems fine?
@@patchyjack5040 I can't tell if your joking or not
Those greenish yellow colors under John's dead horse is so gross but realistic, I love this game.
This could possibly be the most detailed game of all time!!!! I don't think we'll ever see this much depth in a game ever again. Games have become all about online multi player & micro transactions. Most games come out b4 they're even complete so I don't see a team putting in this much time & effort to make another masterpiece like this. 5 years from now we might still be finding new things
Honestly details are one of the things that i can see constantly getting better since a lot of games focus on graphics just look at all of fromsofts recent games they have a lot of details that the player normally wouldn't even see, the resident evil 7 and 8 were also pretty good at this and while their is probably more i haven't played that many recent games.
Amazing video! I played rdr2 for 200-ish hours on pc and God knows how many on ps4, and never knew everything in this video apart from John's more sloppier writing. This is truly a work of art, you deserve a medal :P
Arthur Morgan not closing his eyes while aiming just shows how much of a good marksman he is. Based on what I've read from redditors aiming with both eyes open help with eye strains, helps allow maintain your entire field of view, and depth perception. Rockstar did a really good job at this game.
Comment made just to lick Arthur's boots
@@Brassknuckles21what that person said was correct aiming with both eyes is alot more difficult than aiming with 1
@@Brassknuckles21I would give Arthur head if I could
Fun fact, Arthur got his journal as a gift. He mentions how he’s willing to start a new journal and all that- WHICH explains why Arthur is better at drawing and writing
@@fialovejbiftek he said fun not funny fact
His old one got burned down in the camp fire that was said to have happened a few years before the story so he actually hadn’t journaled for a long time until just before the blackwater mess. It’s also speculated that his dog copper may have died in the fire too
@@fialovejbiftekyou serious?
@@fialovejbiftek the only similarity between fun and funny is that you are neither
@@fialovejbiftek I'm not a britney spears song thank u very much 😤
Im not really sure if John is really fully blind but most likely legally blind so he sees but very little with the injured eye. Nice video btw
Thanks :)
Funny thing is, john was surprised and confused to see people using mausers. John can be heard encouraging his horse when it is out of stamina.
damn how this annoyed me hopefully one day they fix john at least they put out an update that his hair is
I doubt it /:
John isn't blind in his left eye. In the cutscene at the beginning of "Who the hell is Leviticus Cornwall," John's head and right eye are bandaged, and he looks around at the people in the room just fine with his left eye.
Or, at least he's not blind in his left eye 3 missions after being found bloodied on the ledge.
7:02 Throw out to uncle, not Jack.
I don’t think bro liked the food💀
John is not blinded by one eye , his injured eye is not as good as the other one , if he was blinded by one eye then he wouldn't have to close his blinded eye to shoot , in rdr1 he refers to getting his eye back because he has a lazy eye which is not good as the other
I’d be interested to see if Arthur doesn’t close one eye when shooting a rifle instead of a shotgun as shown in the video. There’s a difference in technique in the real world (or there can be, everyone is different)
On a different note it wouldn’t make sense for John to close a blind eye to shoot better as the eye is blind, and wouldn’t affect him anyways
Unless John closing his eye makes him feel like he can perform better, there wouldn’t be a point to closing his eye if he is blind. I know when I play the game, and the gun automatically stays aimed for me, I still have to hold the left trigger to feel comfortable.
I shoot shotguns with both eyes and rifles with one in my personal life. I'm with you on this one.
2:18 this caused some mad ptsd
Fr bro😂
6:14 Unlikely since John seems to refer it must happen between RDR2 (After the Epiloge) and 1. Since he said “years before I ran in a Gang”.
Damn I never thought about John being blind in one eye and I’ve been playing Red Dead since 2014.
He’s not.
@@raisnhed He could have a blind spot in his left eye
7:32 he looks like arthur to be honest
The us Army drill sergeants taught me to close my non dominant (in my case my left) eye. When asked about opening both eyes, the drill sergeants told us it was a more advanced technique.
This only came up on my feed today. Loved it! There was a lot I didn't know 👌
As wearing assassin outfit he could’ve also use the eyepatch to see in the dark as pirates used to in the 14th century
Huh I never noticed John’s horse very clearly pissed itself when it died 0:15
He is not blind in that eye, it was significantly weakened due to a Wolf attack. He does have sight in it, but it is fairly restricted.
No sound was made when using Dead Eye because no target was marked, you only panned over them.
Arthurs is the ticking sound cause its suppsoes to be a reference to TB, his life is ticking away, therfor the clock sound cause he doesnt have much time left.
John marstons deadeye sound is the heartbeat cause thats where he got shot in heart on his death. (Keep an eye on the bullet marks in john marstons death.)
I don't think John is blind as both scopes of the binocular is able to be seen through
John's still better at drawing than me
5:07 "Jhon aims with his left eye closed (due to his blindness)"
Yeah except that just proved this theory to be wrong, if it was a blind eye he wouldn't need to shut it obviously. Still could do it because he was used to aim like that, but it is unlikely. The "I've got my eye back" also should not be taken literally.
We saw in RDR1 John marston using his both eyes” the scar couldn’t reach the eye”
Besides Rockstar games are pretty sharp with their details !
Great video, RedsDeadBaby! I can see you put actual effort into this one. Two criticisms that I have is that John being blind in his left eye is entirely untrue. John means "getting his eye back" metaphorically as in getting his precision back. The Deadly Assassin outfit is just a pre-order bonus outfit that looks cool. The visually injured eye is just popped blood vessels, not serious. The closed eye while aiming is just because he isn't using it at that current moment so he closes it for better precision. And the Rachael named after his daughter thing is a theory, not a fact like the title says. I like that you included some lesser known facts on this video. Again, good job.
Here are some additional notes:
John not "yah-ing" his horse while riding is due to a bug with the game files, a modder named Daan found this and relayed it to me after I pointed it out. (The dialogue in the files exists, but due to an accident they made in the script for replacing the files with updated ones, it doesn't work.)
John using Arthur's vomiting sounds is obviously a bug, he has his own in the game files.
RDR1 John has grey eyes, whereas RDR2 John has blue eyes. You can see this in the two games' texture files.
Old Boy is not directly the same as the War Horse from RDR1 but it is very obviously inspired.
When arthurs sick and anytime you play as john, if you swap glove, Vest, and shirt varients the character models are buggy. Forearms beef out and then get skinnier, and as you can see in the video at 9:44 Johns Gloves actually change size. The game is being buggy with what porportions to use to what body model I think.
When sick with TB as Arthur if you check his wellbeing under Player < Arthur from the menu
Your health is Marked with the red Debuff "Tuberculosis" and a -%40 core drain rate with a skull icon ( posion uses the same icon )
And Your general stats will note Arthur as Underweight No matter what you do or eat.
I think as rockstar was rushing development in the end they couldn't polish this and other late game chapters as well as chapter 1-5, like how Annesburg theres an obvious Audio splice during a cutscene when Arthur helps Mrs. Downes Son, and this also explains why John has the same vomiting noises as Arthur and I swear to god ive heard John's grunts while climbing as Arthur.
Oh yea, John does encourage and hurry his horse while riding, Calm your horse while riding and itll restore stamina as well as have Arthur/John talk to it.
5:58 that happens if the horse has been running for too long, and John recognizes the horse's speed is decreasing, making him shout so the horse doesn't stop.
there is a secret horse names winter, if you spawn it it hast the same saddle like john, it looks very skinny and sick, it seems like it belonged to john
By using the cheat to spawn any random horse you can get Johns original horse with his custom saddle.
John got the Mangekyo Sharingan after losing Arthur
too bad he couldnt use tsukyomi and dodge those bullets in the end of the first game smh
@@iamgameing3840 they really pulled a shisui on him
@@babyfinesse_ what I'm sayin
When i ride a horse in red dead redemption 2 i always hear John encouraging his horse (i play on the first version of the game)
Fun fact John's not blind in his eye due to the attack by the wolf's John's eye was not put out but. Damaged giving the words I see double sometimes in rdr1
He's not blind, his eye was bleeding, probably because of a hit or something, that's actually pretty common.
If John was blind in his left eye he wouldn't need to close it. If however his vision was impaired in that eye, he might in order to give a clear image when aiming.
I suspect the eye colour and body/ face shape changes are due to the fact R* just used Arthur's body. And stuck John's skin on. Why they made this change when they already had a presumably working model in version 1.00, is baffling.
John doesn't take to the horses in the way Arthur does. He just doesn't seem all that caring towards his steed and, well, the feeling is obviously mutual. This is probably just my perception of it, because surely R* didn't program that in ... or did they? I've never had a really reliable horse with John, however I've had two fantastic bombproof ones and several others who were pretty good with Arthur.
I always assumed Rachel was named by David Geddes, as she was only lent to John originally while he worked for him.
He encourages them in my game tho
The only thing that makes me not think mr geddes gave him Rachel is when he’s racing Jack and if Jack is in the lead John will shout “you realize how old my horse is?” Indicating he’s had Rachel for quite some time
@@RedsDeadBaby except Mr Geddes tells John that he can have use of the horse when he starts working for him. I've never heard John say to Jack his horse is old, but if she is maybe that's why Mr Geddes was happy for him to take her 🤔
I think it’s kinda cool that Arthur’s dead eye sounds like he is taking in the sounds around him more; like he is processing all the feed his brain receives to make the predicted shot to land in dead eye, whilst John’s sounds more like a time slowing, locked-in perspective of just focusing purely on the gunfire and positioning of his enemies; perhaps meaning there are different types or ‘stances’ for dead eye? I’m probably just overthinking it, but it would be cool, because then assuming someone like Micah who is presumed to have dead eye, I wonder what his would be like?
7:14 Jack just sitting there like there's nothing he can do about his situation XD
Damn, I thought that I knew everything about little details about John, guess there's more than meets the eye. I did not know that John was partially blind.
Arthur's Deadeye also depends on his Honor. The sounds and the way they look are different
John vomitting from Abi's dinner in front of her was so freaking funny
Are there great guides or tutorials on how to sketch like Arthur? Really like how "general" his pencil strokes are while having details via "messy shading"
Little Johnny Marston
What's the song name around here? 7:23
Revenge is a dish best eaten
the part with the mammoth is such a rockstar moment, i think this is part of why their games take so long to develop, they have so much stuff in their game and so much hidden stuff that you can find new stuff a decade after the games come out.
Like the small detail of the yellow snow in around John’s dead horse.
Good video
I like how the channel changed
I promised change was coming! ;) thanks I really appreciate you saying that
What was the background song at #16 "old boy" at 8:30 ? It's familiar to me
The fine art of conversation
@@RedsDeadBaby thanks...great video
Another cool thing abt the journal is that you can see that Arthur’s drawing skill improves as you go through the journal
aiming with both eyes open gives greater field of view and is taught by militaries for clearing rooms due to the greater field of view given. while aiming with one eye is more of a "target" way to aim, giving greater accuracy at range.
It's the scope, one eye see far ahead through a lense, the other eye do not and that is a massive disparity in depth for both eyes at once and that is problematic as it mess with your depth perception. Take a binocular to your right eye and you understand haha, plus it's Generally better with one eye closed with scope, but long range with Iron sight and red dot with both eyes open works just fine, because the depth perception helps. This way you can also put on the lense protector on the front of the red dot scope at night, having both eyes open, like blocking your one eye with your hand at a certain distance from your face you can see through it, it's the same effect with the red dot and this help keeping you concealed in short distance shooting position in the dark, because the red dot lights up as a beacon.
Pretty sure at release John shouted to his horse too. I know for a fact because I remember missing Arthur's way of saying "boah". And being amazed as to how little I wanted to play as John even though I was excited RDR2 was a prequel
When you play first person you dont see that he is blind
how could you tell if some character isnt using both eyes? ._.
@@dant4774 how can you not tell the difference? Have you ever tried to close one eye and let the other open? I can see the difference
@@dant4774 you arent very smart
@@omegaomg175 To be fair if you’re partially blind in one eye then the other eye will pick up most of the slack. Source: I’m basically legally blind in my left eye.
@@MrThatGuy97
You’d still be able to tell the difference if you all of a sudden got full vision back in your bad eye.
I love this kind of video since I like the game love to know more about it. Great video always is awesome to know about the game you love or like just to make it more interesting to your "gamer" life.
Glad you enjoyed!
“Sorry”
*cutely vomits down jacks spine*
Bro i think rockstar is going to "fix" John in a Remastered version to the new consoles
No they wont
I don't think they will do it if they didn't do it with a few simple updates I doubt that johk will come out fixed on ps5
Not likely. They already cancelled it. Which is probably for the best considering that dumpster fire of the GTA trilogy
@@MB-yw6uv They should, because it's impossible that they don't see players complaining about John's model
It would be better if rockstar made a remake (or remaster) of rdr1, so you could play it freely on newer consoles but they'd never do it because gta trilogy failed miserably and they are focusing on gta 6 now.
I wonder who taught Arthur how to draw (probably Hosea)
Hmmmm... 🤔
I always thought John's gambler hat more closely resembled Harmonica's from Once Upon a Time in the West.
He's not blind out of his left eye. His vision is impaired. The amount of people who get this simple distinction wrong is crazy.
Being blind doesn’t have much to do with him shooting how John does. As someone who shoots with my left eye closed (dominant righty) some people can shoot with both eyes open or one closed. For me it helps me focus better on a target instead of being a blurred mix of two targets.
I messed up my wording, had to fix it! 😆
John isnt blind in one eye when he said "i think i got my eye back" he meant that not literal
Maybe he's partially blind?
About the aiming thing. Thing is you're supposed to keep both eyes open when aiming a shotgun while you close one eye while aiming a rifle
arthur having both eyes open is definitely a testament to his experience. especially when that’s something modern soldiers are _trained_ to do, arthur most likely just got used to shooting with both eyes open