When I was first promoted to manager and needed to fire an employee for poor performance my CEO actually sat me down for a talk. He said "When to terminate someone's employment you are changing the entire course of their life. So be sure you did everything you could for them." I've carried that with me for the last 15 years and is some of the best business advice I ever received. He was the kind of CEO you wish was the norm. It sounds like you're not to far off. Putting employees first is hard, and you did everything you could (and then some).
Unlike said employee who seemed like he wanted to stand around with his hands in his pockets, handing the boss some tools and getting paid for JUST that. I know guys like this that will then complain about the pay and even openly say "I won't give my full effort for this pay"..even after everyone at the location got a pay rise.
@@lidge1994 Some people will always do the bare minimum, no matter what the job. Also, I don't buy the "give my full effort for this pay" excuse that people try to use. Unless the pay got lowered after you were hired, you know what the pay is going into it. Especially for small companies like this where you are dealing with actual people, not some soulless corporation who doesn't give two shits about you.
@@wmpx34 It's an excuse to stop people asking why you're not doing your job. Which is why I'm an avid supporter of docking pay for fuck-ups and poor performance (if intentional) and rewarding good performance and doing things you weren't asked to do that help everyone else.
I've had 12 jobs over the years, and I've been fired once, a few weeks after telling my boss I was pregnant. He claimed it was bad performance but had given a 2$ an hour raise previously. Didn't make sense, I know in that field I'd be considered a liability. I'm terrified of telling a boss about pregnancy or anything female that might be effecting job performance, even when it's not my fault and I'm doing everything I can to have it not affect my job. I've hidden pregnancies up to 32 weeks, hidden sciatica issues, back problems due to pregnancy. That one fire definitely affected me for life. I work will all men and it feels like to stay employed I have to hide my feminine self
I’m quite overweight but when the hole needs to get dug, ya dig it! My dad taught me you can take a break when the work is done so you can sit there and look at the accomplishments you have completed, not the dreaded work you have left.
Ooooo!! I love that! My dad and I used to take breaks part way through and that’s ALL we did was bitch about what we had left to do. Wish we would have looked at it like this.
I've worked in fast paced call centers for going on 7+ years now. I was used to taking 80 calls a day in an 8 hour shift. I worked at a burger place once and got fired for being too slow. I can navigate 2 screens with 11 different applications open. Give customers details they need, but when it came to taking orders at a burger place I sucked. Sometimes the job isn't for you.
hats off to you but thats a pretty stupid take. im sure when you started you couldnt handle 80 with 2 screens and 11 apps. I think youre an amazing learner, but are task specific, so you need time.
@@ToneBajc how is that a stupid take? some people arent cut out for certain jobs. I can build a house from the ground up, I can diagnose and repair any issue on any car, and i can outrun the vast majority of tow truck drivers. notice i said driver. I am not a driver, I am an operator. any monkey can hold a steering wheel, it takes a bit of intelligence and a lot of common sense to do it at my level. fast food may be a bad example. ive had too many wrong orders for me to have any respect for any of the people working at any of the places around me. and these clowns want $15 an hour for mediocrity.... however, i can build hot rods and race cars at a level most people only dream of. I can fix anything. with all the right tools i could tear a car completely apart and put it back together in a single weekend. the body and paint on that car would be well above even some of the best known hot rods that have been in magazines for decades (not in a single weekend for that part obviously). itll look better and last longer than 99% of trash that everybody drools over at sema.. ask me to go on a used car lot and sell that exact same car, i couldnt do it. I can also outdrive about 99% of the population. I have about as much respect for the people on the road every day as i do for mcdonalds employees. especially most of the "professionals" on the road. somehow training requirements went up and actual skill went down. thats why im actively working on starting my own transport business. do what youre good at.. but if you can hack it at in fast food, i hope you find something you can do because thats honestly sad..
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but talking on the phone is not a "fast paced job". Then you bragged about screens and applications. What you really mean to say is "I absolutely cannot handle manual labor."
This guy is the example of a boss and business owner. He literally rules out the problem down to to the personal level even asking to help the person with those problems. I wish I had a boss like this.
I had a boss who would say stuff like that. They are willing to do that because they want you focused on the job, not worrying about other problems and having other stuff on your mind when you should be working.
I just thought of a conversation I overheard that I think you would appreciate. I was getting my roof done; at the time, code required one row of ice guard at the eaves. I told the contractor I wanted two rows, because reasons; he said he personally didn't think it was necessary, but if I was sure I wanted it, it would add $X to the job; I agreed to that. I overheard him talking to his crew the first morning; he mentioned two rows of ice guard. One of his guys said "Oh, man, that sucks, why do we have to do TWO rows?" It got real quiet for a second, and the boss said "Because it's what our customer wants, and it's what our customer is paying for, and it's what we're going to do. Any other questions?" 😁
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 more so he wants yo get paid and not have issues. Its more so thay than actually making customers happy. I dislike a solid 30-40% of my customers hahaha
@@jonny-b4954 We are the actions we make, not the thoughts we think. As long as you do just a good a job for people you dislike as the people you like they'll both provide the same free advertising to their friends and family likely indefinitely. Haven't had to have my vehicle worked on at a shop in years thankfully. Still recommend the last garage to people with car trouble anytime it comes up.
I'm a slow worker, this is something of myself that I know very well. I worked in IT as an installer of wireless networking equipment for my first job and I generally take more time to do a physical job than any of my colleagues. This is why I worked hard on improving my skills and product knowledge such that I was able to work myself into a position where I no longer had to do a lot of physical work, but instead focus more on technical work (from configuring new systems to diagnosing problems and remote support). Over 10 years and a series of fortunate events and a lot of hard work now has me as the ops manager of the company (granted it's not a very big company). Note that there is a big difference between being lazy and being slow. Bad coordination, physical (un)fitness or lack of training/experience can make for a slow worker, some of which you can help them to improve, others can be harder to overcome. However, when someone is hiding from work, wasting time or making bullshit excuses such that someone else has to do their work for them, you are dealing with laziness which is a big problem and should be dealt with as soon as possible as it not only affects your business and income, but also negatively impacts the morale of the other employees.
I'm slow as well, especially early on. But I had one boss who noticed when I said I was done, I meant it. There was nothing left to do if I came to her saying I was done and it was always done well. In another job, I started slow and then got so fast, I had outpaced the incoming work. Lazy and slow are definitely not the same.
.Slow workers can be fixed. And in some cases they don't need to be fixed, Because they're used to being slow they're usually better at budgeting time. Main thing is I'd rather have a guy who does it slow once than a guy who does it fast three times Because he fucked up twice.
Can make up for being slow by working smart, not stopping and done perfect every time and 100+% thoroughly completed from documentation to new stock ordered to tools and messes gone.
I work slowly. Im young and inexperienced but I promise once ive done the job enough I can pick up the pace. I just always try to make sure im watching every angle and ensuring im doing everything correctly
@@synshenron798 and that's all you need to improve. Good attitude, honesty and willingness to learn. Asking questions.. that lets your boss and coworkers know they're not wasting their time with you. And if that's not enough then maybe it's not a job for you or maybe it's not a good company. The best company I worked for I had right after it didn't work out with another company. I wish you to find that dream job my friend!
Self employed for about 12 years. If I ever have to work with/for someone again I would absolutely enjoy working for a company that runs like yours. Great mind set and business skills.
I've been self employed for 20 years. I've had help off and on but not much lately. I recently put a helped wanted sign out for skilled labor. No calls in 3 weeks. I'm offering free basic tools even. People don't want to work...
@@jwh1776 I don't understand how people aren't working its insane. With the price of everything I'm taking a beating so bad this year that I've almost worked myself broke if that makes sense. People aren't spending the money for home maintenance and repairs in my area . I'm the same with labor my hiring is short term and paid cash. If I grew enough to be able to supply a few guys with a good wage and provide them stability it would be a dream come true but hell I'm barely above water this past year and if it don't get any better I'm going to have to be employed under someone and suck it up until something falls through. Not liking 2022 at all.
I was a self employed window fitter that subcontracted out to companies and got paid per item I fitted. (Also, done pretty much every job in the building trade, outside of electrics.) The company I worked for 10 years went under during COVID lockdowns so I had to get a temporary retail job, god damn... nobody knows what hard work is. I'd constantly get praise from bosses even when I felt like I was slacking off. It's insane to me how little people do, call in sick, show up late, leave early and still expect paying.
@@jwh1776 if only this were the case. The us economy could only sustain wage stagnation for so long before we eventually hit a wall where people refused to take on a job unless it let them live, and the boomers all retired leaving higher paying jobs available or high-ish paying jobs with better working conditions/benefits than those in the service sector. I do not claim to know your individual situation including starting pay and location, but i wouldnt rule out the idea that many people u seek to hire are already hired at even something as simple as a wearhouse job
I've literally had that conversation "hey is there anything in your life that's causing you to not pull your weight". And there was I was running on 3-4 hours of sleep a night for weeks and I was so fried and hadn't figured to ask that of myself. I will always remember how it felt to have a boss, give a shit about finding out what the real cause might be. Because they did, I was able to address the problem, and ended up being around to solve some pretty major problems for them.
@willy29111992wk feels like someone's caring about you and either seeing your potential or not seeing it yet but wants to see it. Feels the opposite of how an asshole would make you feel. Feels human. Feels like you are given the chance to overcome lack of experience or whatever problem you might have. Never underestimate the impact of treating someone with or without respect can have on their life. And yours.
I had a boss like that once too. I was using up all my unplanned vacation days as sick days because I had health issues that were female related. Luckily my boss was a woman because I didn’t feel comfortable explaining my problems with a man but she understood what I was going through because the same thing had happened to her. She called me at home to find out why I was missing so many days because that wasn’t like me at all.
I realize this video is 2 years old, I just needed to comment on it though. You speak the absolute truth and you are inspiring. I'd love to have a boss like you. I've always tried to set a good work ethic example for my kids, which hasn't always been easy due to some of my own physical limitations. However, my son is the type of person to learn a job as he's been trained to do it, and work out more efficient ways to do that job that are both time saving and more productive. His bosses from the time he was a teenager have always loved him. My daughter has also worked hard at every job she's had and now owns her own specialty dog grooming shop. Two girls that work in her shop have decided that they're going different routes and will no longer be there after the first of the year. My daughter is stressed, but she's a smart cookie and I know she'll find a way to get a couple more groomers to work with her. I currently work for a casual dining restaurant. So far my bosses have been pretty good. I struggle more with seeing the lack of work ethic in some of my much younger co-workers. I'm twice their age with various health issues that should limit my abilities. However, I tend to work circles around them while they stand around during slow times on their phones or joking around. I do my best every day to not be limited by my health. Young people today do their best to put the least amount of effort needed into their jobs and think that's okay. I know it's part in how they're raised, but it's also an internal belief that "just enough is good enough". It's so frustrating to see. Specially as a manager, which I was one for many years. Bless you and all that work with and for you.
I cannot imagine being previously spoken to, having an issue pointed out, and not fixing it *in front of your boss.* Clearly, you guys make a great work environment for the team and instead of recognizing that, he took advantage of it. I'd have your guys work on my place, any day! Drinks and a snack are prepped if we know it's a long job 🥤
That’s my take as well. The entire process described about how many chances this dude had to improve is amazing! Sounds like a great place to work and great people to work with. Anyone who is going to pull everyone else down doesn’t need to be in the company.
I honestly can't imagine being spoken to by the office girl, about not digging a ditch fast enough... i'd probably dig a hole for her. two different worlds we're from. I'd think it's a joke. Any business that would have the "office girl" talk to a digger about how performance has a lot more problems than what's shown on youtube. imagine someone more intelligent than a shovel operator working for this guy, he'd get sued.
@@peeonu25 So you’ve never heard of an Human Resources department, then? They are office staff who discuss work issues that can lead to reprimands or termination in a way that (hopefully) helps the staff while limiting the risk to the company. Pretty much every large company has these staff and I expect that includes companies who need workers to dig holes for any reason. Poor job performance is certainly one of the things that HR department staff would talk to a staff member about so that if the staff member gets fired the company can show that they tried to counsel the staff on the issue that cost them their job and not that the staff member was fired for any reason made up by the staff member after the fact. EX, “They fired me because they’re racist.” “I have a job record here showing the staff member was counseled on poor job performance over a month prior to their firing. The record further shows that they did not improve their performance, leading to their termination.” Based on what’s written above, which of those two people do you think wins a court case?
@@orangutantapioca1530 its required by law... You have too, as an employer. you must show youve taken verbal, written and physical action before you repremand an employee... Dudes not being a "good boss" It's wrongfuI termination if the steps are not taken. you're a judge?The whole video is a sexual harassment and deframation suit waiting to happen. Between mentioning age, gender etc of his employees. I wouldn't think you have a clue what a judge would do. Some of these videos about his "employees", if real.... Are legitmate lawsuits. You think you have an idea who would win a court case? Any decent boss... Knows you can't be a boss while working tools. First rule of manual labor. Dudes inspectors are upset cuz his new hire wont pack 3 or 4 shit hoses at once? He's hourly, they commission. Want a fantasy that makes sense? This dude is bascially asking his workers to carry a tool bag up a ladder, or to walk backwards up stairs. Clearly, hed like to see his helpers RUN. How do you counsel "hard work"? How do you counsel someone to carry more things ERGONOMICALLY? You can't.... Ive been apart of many wrongful termination suites. When HR looks at you and says "were lawyers today" and you have to remind them "no you're HR and I'm a Foreman" I'll tell you right now any judge would love to hear HR called "office girls"
1.) Speed doesn't matter as long as you're consistent. Consistency is what sets you apart from the lazy guys. 2.) Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It's not a race. 3.) If the boss is out there breaking a sweat, you better be drenched with sweat and working your ass off. That's not so you'll get a prize for best worker or anything like that, that's just what is expected. My grandpa taught me those lessons. he was a retired marine master sergeant the fought in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.
Digging can be hard work, and construction, and a lot of manual labor jobs do require people to be physically fit. I dont do that type of stuff, and I know I cant handle that type of stuff without being very slow. I also have a thing where if I have a job, I do kinda prefer being told what to do, but I also hate a boss thats overlooking every single little thing I do. And I like this guy, he seems like a reasonable boss you dont have to fear. In this type of job, yes working with the boss, and working as hard as the boss makes sense. However in some jobs, a lot of managers see employees as replaceable, and feel like they are looking for any reason to get rid of you. If a boss is going to treat me poorly, I’m going to treat my job poorly. In a lot of places, managers seem to feel like they are better than everyone below them. The US work culture in general feels pretty toxic, compared to other countries, we have very poor labor laws compared to Europe, and very poor culture compared to like Japan.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist people are replaceable. He didn't ask this guy to apply for the job this guy applied on his own that means he understood there would expectations. The problem with the workforce today is its full of pussies who won't work and they just call HR when you try to tell them they have to pull their weight. These lazy bastards need to be fired, and it wasn't like he fired him the first day either, this guy had multiple opportunities to pick up the pace. Grow some hair on your balls and work harder
Speaking about this particular job didn't the boss say he only has like 37% lung capacity and he doesn't have the weight to push through the soil when it's tougher so maybe he's drenched and sweat because he's not built for the job I live in Illinois which is an at-will state which means your employer can fire you for any reason at any time and unless it's an extreme circumstance you can't even sue for wrongful termination
@@TwoStacks217 he's a smaller built man. That's it. He can do the job like anyone else it's just someone built heavier should be able to have an easier time doing the same job. The guy he fired was just not willing to work and kept making up excuses.
@@pootmahgoots8482 I understand why the guy got fired I'm just saying is I am 6'8 250 lbs so I could do the exact same job as somebody who is 5'8 135 lb and that guy would still be sweating way more than I am
I’ve been a semi truck owner operator and a company driver trainer over the last 32 years. As an O/O I prefer to hire people with absolutely no experience so that I can teach them how I expected them to drive and conduct themselves while representing my company. As one would expect, new drivers are slower and take much more time to complete what I usually consider simple tasks. It can be easy to forget how unnerving it can be as a rookie trucker, so I try my best not add undo stress to an already stressful situation for them, but after a certain amount of time you have to weed out those that aren’t suited for the job, or get lazy and milk the job. The company has to make money in order for the employees to make money, and usually when making someone available to other pursuits, I’ve felt I was doing them as much of a favor as myself. Not everyone is cut out for this line of work. On the flip side, I’ve had many, many rookies turn into exceptional drivers and kinda like a big brother or papa, I’m proud of them and the fact that I had something to do with their success.
I tried training for like a month. When one put us on a dead- end mountain road with like a 13% grade (which i ended up having to back down like 2 miles) I quit taking students.
You are spot on. Some people wouldn’t work even if you plugged them in, just lazy..... these are usually the ones that complain about not getting a break. Love your comments and your work ethics.
I had a worker raise a stink because we took one of our breaks 20 minutes late once. He also went to the bathroom like 10 times a night, and left early because he "wasn't feeling well" every other shift. Needless to say he didn't last long.
I have had way too many jobs where the employer expects new hires to just magically be a perfect fit for the team or else they cut that person loose and roll the dice with the next one. It is mind-blowing and refreshing to see an employer who does the exact opposite, exhausting every chance to not just allow a new hire to improve but actively assist them in doing so before calling it off and terminating their employment. If only more employers were like you, we'd not only have a stronger workforce, but a happier and more highly skilled one. You rock, Sir.
Lord A-Mighty I have to agree so very hard. I work as a correction officer - max security prison in Texas. New hires get 6 weeks of training ( YAY !!), which has about 4 weeks of Policies and Procedures ( umm, whaaa? But how do I ...) And a week of OJT (Okay, not so bad...) during which the new boot is supposed to shadow an experienced hand ( well okaaayy...). But when I went through, all the "mentors" were desk bosses - who had been there for years, and their experience meant they did not work pods. (Imagine if new hires on a construction site were assigned to sit with the boom crane operators. ) Yeah, not much practical knowledge gained there. Oh. And three days of firearm safety training - with about 10 to 15 minutes of actual shooting ( 18 rounds of 0.357 at ranges from 6 ft to 25 ft. , 8 rounds of 0.223 at range of 30 yards and -1- ( yes, *one*) 12 ga round fired , ummm... thataway. "Fortunately", none of the new boots will be assigned to any position where they will be required or permitted to carry any firearm. I actually survived the first 6 months (well, I didn't quit or get fired) and a couple years later, I was a mentor to new boots. Up to 5 at a time !@@! But I did what very few other COs were doing. I had *them* go out and do the @#$^job. I stood on the pod, watched them, and corrected them when they made mistakes. I showed them by direct example how to talk to prisoners in a BUNCH of situations. I screamed at prisoners. I cursed some out. I joked with some. I TOLD prisoners what I was a-fixin to do and I @$%^ did it.. I told the new boots about Policies and Procedures - and also about Practicalities and Perceptions. For whatever reason, any new boots that worked with me had STORIES about their time with me when they would rejoin their class. (No. I didn't set up anything, this was all real s#$t from just "normal" operations.) We had prisoners start fights. We had fires. We had floods. We had the kitchen deliver a bunch of spoiled meat sandwiches. We had offenders refuse to rack up - and those three newboots that night - got their chance to write 10 cases each for "failure to obey orders" - and the entire rest of their class only wrote 3 cases that entire week. And the .newboots brag/complained because I wrote 40 cases that night. Those 3 new boots walked PROUD when they got assigned to work their very own pod later. And they all knew I would have their back, so long as they weren't dirty. Yeah, you might nor be able to outwork the boss ( hey, the boss sometimes knows how to get it done better, easier, faster) but if you are working beside the boss, you dam well need to be showing your best effort.
@@mikesharkey2010 that's how you do it - I was the same in the engine room back in the Navy, while I was E-5 and expected to help run the work center, hell even as an E-4 whenever I had a guy training a watch under me... carried over to civ life, working tech support. Bosses got mad when new peeps would tell incoming classes who sat in "got any questions forget the sup go talk to the guy in the corner with glasses and a ponytail, he knows more". Bosses didn't like the stream of people coming to my desk, not theirs. 🤣
There are some jobs though that shouldn't take much too learn, you don't have to be perfect you just have to show initiative and the willing to learn and show you have a good work ethic
I had a boss like you once. Great guy, excellent boss, nothing but good things to say. He gave me a chance, I tried my best, but I'm not meant to work with wood. Left on a good note and even got a positive reference from that as well. Thank you for being a solid guy and giving people a fair chance.
I've been there. Tried working in sales... I am not cut out for it. The boss gave me a chance and I tried my best, but at the end of the day I just couldn't do the job well enough to stay on. Now I'm in a job I can do well and I'm sometimes the one training new guys. I give everyone a chance but some people either can't or won't do the work. I feel worse for the ones who have a good attitude and good work ethic but just can't hack it physically/mentally. When a guy shows up every day with 110% effort I will bend over backwards to make it work but sometimes it just won't work out no matter how hard you try. And no matter how positive or hardworking you are, if you're causing problems or safety issues you have to go.
James I absolutely love your channel. You say things so clearly and sensibly. A college professor here. I really don't understand how he didn't even strive to outwork you. I think hard work is a teaching tool. I packed and picked blueberries as a teen. It is hot, humid, hard work and you learn the value of making money and doing your part. Guy sounds like he really didn't want the job, but he cost everyone money and time. Not cool.
I thought employers like you were fairytale. I'm 66, previously a bookkeeper. I've never even heard of employer's like you. But you know what, you've made me a better person. Thank you. You're gonna make a butt load of money. I'm pulling for you 👍🙋
I have had a LOT of shitty bosses in my day, and you genuinely seem like an incredibly solid dude to work for. This dude must not have had enough shitty bosses in the past to provide him with some context and appreciation, I can’t understand how anyone could piss away an opportunity like that
This guy even though I do not know him in real life seems like a hardworking guy and cares about the people that are under him. I wish I would have had some bosses like him. He takes the time with his employees and sees if he can help them out before firing them.
You did really good handling this. As a pipefitter from AL I have seen young people overloaded with copper, made fun of and treated like garbage, and quit on their 2nd or 3rd day....then at the end of the week managers are wondering why they can't find helpers.
I guess I'm the nice guy in my craft because when I catch a youngster working like that I pull them aside and discuss the economy of movement. You ain't going to make it if you let them ride you hard and put you up wet. You get damn good at what you do and stay union.
@@mikealext no, that's how some asswipes make themselves feel superior. A bit of good natured ribbing, wire stretchers, chain shrinkers and trade hazing is part of the job and it builds comradery. But beating someone down that's already working hard to make it is just ill natured.
It is a blow to my soul when I hear stories like this. With each new generation, the quality of workers decrease. Now, when I was 19/20, I was an idiot. Slow, excuses everywhere, very poor work ethic. But now that I'm 27, I look back and I realize I had "cranialrectumitis" as my family puts it. I'm trying to build a family and a future for them, and that only comes from working hard. Boy am I glad I learned the value of hard work. It still upsets me when I see people who are as lazy as I was, and they refuse to see it, and they refuse to change.
I grew up in physical jobs. My whole family did them. I was fired or quit job after job (usually quit) because it was physically exhausting, more than seemed right. So I started working my brain and getting thinking jobs. Now I make near 200k working a brain job. ... got good insurance, diagnosed with Polymiositis and 4 immune diseases. My muscles burn lactic acid with little excursion. I could have counted myself a lower (which I did for years,) or realize my weaknesses and worked in my strengths, which I finally did. (I'm 5'10 and 2ft across the shoulders... people can't understand why I have Handicap tags). Being fired is an opportunity for growth and change. I'm thankful to those who helped me decide what path I should follow
Wow, if you guys really would have helped him with his personal issues (home life, money, health, ect) then you guys are hands down the best people to work for. How could you not show your appreciation for that by working hard?
I've worked jobs where they did not care in the least what is going on with you. Salter construction. I had a heart attack on the job and not one person other that 3 guys I worked with, even bothered to even see if even lived, much less any get well wishes.
My company is like that. If you no call no show a few days, or your coming in late consistantly, the first call isn't to bitch you out, it's to make sure you're ok. If, like this guy, you say everything is ok, and keep fucking up, then they send you to HR to get bitched at or fired.
@@mikekeltner4291 that's horrible, I'm sorry homie. I'm blessed to work for a company that's like a family. How can you work efficiently with a crew of guys who don't care about each other? That must make for long stressful days.
@@camelholocaust5149 I quit and now I am self employed, I'm making triple what I was making, I can now afford to eat healthier and I have time and money to join a gym. And I can now afford health care. When I was working for salter construction I even told them I couldn't even afford lunch half the time. And they did not care whatsoever. (Nathan Salter) Worst company I have ever worked for. They threaten ppls jobs all the time. Barely pay enough to live, I've seen paperwork where my work made them thousands of dollars a week but they would only give a .50cent raise. The whole salter family is nothing but greedy money grubbers that have zero respect for any of their hourly employees. Wish I never knew any of them, I even told them I couldn't even afford my medicines, they suggested I get a second job (Nathan salter again)
As a longtime supervisor I've come to take pride in the fact that the few people who enjoyed working for me were the only ones who took my example and ran with it, bettering themselves along the way.
"Don't let the boss outwork you" I've never heard this before but I think it might be why every boss I've had has given me a handshake and a smile on the way out.
This made me really appreciate my bosses and the patience they have for me. I'm overweight and diabetic but I always gave my job %110. I may not be the quickest but I always show up on time and got my job done even if it meant to stay a extra hour to catch up. My boss acknowledged this and always praised me on doing a great job and didn't mind if I took a 5 minute break here and there because he knew I will get the job done. Just recently I decided I wanted to learn truck because I wanted to show my boss I was really invested in this company and expand my position. When I did truck for the first time it was more labor then I was used to. I was sweating up a river and I embarrassed myself a few times by dropping a few boxes however not once did I stop working or complained. My boss and trainers were backing me up the whole time and were very patient with me. Speed wasn't their concern they wanted to make sure I was comfortable with the job. Although I spent the next few days sore I'm still looking forward towards my next truck schedule.
I'm a 65yr old woman who got the best advice from my father about work ethics. He told me to always look professional for an interview, even if it's a job digging ditches, and to always give the job my all. I have worked in a men's field for most of my adult life, retired now, and got the promotions and bonuses others were passed over for. Getting employee of the quarter was the best thing I ever got. You were voted on, not only by your peers, but supervisors and department heads. Yes, I was very proud and grateful for my father's wisdom.
@Today is Especially Delicious that doesn't mean be a slacker. Because of this mentality, Nothing is getting done, prices are soaring because of supply and demand, stuff is not being loaded delivered, stocked, etc, because of lazy, spoiled, toddlers that think they should be paid $70k for just walking into a job and breathing. Today's young adults are in for a rude awakening! They can't wipe their on butts, but have so much to complain about!
You’re spot on, across the board. I’d love to be able to never have to fire anybody, for a alot of reasons. But we aren’t all suited to do the same work and it doesn’t benefit anyone if we are all struggling to get the job done.
digging is extremely hard work. what was he paying the guy? What was the quota? None of this was given in the video for context. He wants them to slave for a bad wage? Well... that's a conclusion that can be surmised from this video... because we were given no info.
This one hits close to home. I've been working in the trades about 10 years, mostly small crew (like three to five guys) general stuff. Mostly residential. I can do the job, do it well, and be proud of my work. However, I work at a pace that is slower than anyone with the goal of "growing the business" likes. That doesn't mean that I don't work hard, or that I'm taking breaks or goofing off. It just means that while I'm working, I do the job slower than the guy next to me. I have no problem staying late to get the required amount of work done, but bosses I've had are so militant about going as fast as you possibly can, that even if I did stay late (without pay), they would just wonder why I didn't get more done in that time frame. I got into the field out of necessity; I'm probably not cut out for being a tradesman, but its all I got. The only skillset that I have that I can earn a living with.
Stick with it til you can build up a clientele of your own, then go out on your own. If you do good quality work, are honest, show up, and do what you say you'll do, your clients will be happy with you. I always say on my own jobs "right now they may be disappointed that it's going a few days longer than I originally projected, but if it's done well, they'll forget about that as they enjoy the end product in the years ahead.
I've had a number of bosses like that. They point to the all go no show guy and talk about how he's moving all day every day, yet, not ever point out that for all his activity, he rarely accomplishes anything that matters because everything is done half-assed and sloppy from going way too fast.
Fast isn’t always good. The mantra of the team I work in is : do it right, the first time, every time. It saves up on the need to come back and correct things. And that’s a bigger waste of time and money.
I learned more from getting fired than I did from just about any other lesson in a job. It took awhile for me to wrap my head around it, but I realized it was due to my work ethic and attitude, once I got to that point settled in my brain, I became a much better employee.
man you gave this dude more chances than you should have. my dad owned a plumbing company and if you couldnt keep up with him, he was done with you, and my dad was a machine and people hated to work with him. i only ever worked with my uncle cuz my dad fired me numerous times from jobs so i finally became a drywaller and then started my own company but i learned alot from they both showed me on how to understand people!!
I wish there were more business owners like yourself that take the time to notice their employees the way you do (for better or worse). I have had so many crappy employers in my labor industry that when I found the diamond in the rough of one who truly saw me and what I brought to work every day in both professionalism and work ethic, I felt such a tremendous amount of loyalty that it should provoke both happiness for that workplace and huge depression for the state of the industry. Keep making those tough decisions and good on you for holding to your values and integrity. It sets a standard that should be far more common, and makes it a much more appealing line of work for all labor industries. 👍💪👍
I know something like that too, I once went to a major customer to do an order to clean the metal slat ceiling including the lamps built into it on an entire floor. In addition to the three boys who had been part of the team for a long time, there was a newcomer who had applied SELF, i.e. was not sent by the employment office. After about 30 minutes, my right hand came to me, who was supposed to train him and complained that he had to explain everything to the man twice and three times and constantly had to rework it. I asked him to be patient, because no one starts out as an absolute master, everyone has to get used to it first. 90 minutes later the new man came to me and asked if he could go down to the car in the underground car park, he had forgotten something there.... Of course no problem.... What I only noticed later, he didn't ask at all after the car key..... Well, he went to the elevator and was NEVER seen again..... Including the overalls, which cost over 140 German marks because the material is acid-resistant and breathable. I don't know whats going on in the Mind of such People, when i don't was a Genius like Stephen Hawking and i don't have a special professional Education i have not much Choice on the Job Market and when i get a Chance to work in good Team with with above-average pay, (meaning he would have earned more without the appropriate 3-year training as a building cleaner than elsewhere with the appropriate training) then I'll take the chance. I mean i would do anything to grab the Job. As my working my career really started, in the stainless steel works, I started with simple, physically very difficult jobs without any training, but I always gave my best and showed interest in the machines, with the result that I was trained everywhere, but I always gave myself the manuals leave to study at home how to operate the machines optimally, not just the simple steps that your colleague shows you during the training. That impressed the superiors and impressed me that I then got the chance to learn materials testing (sparks and spectral analysis), just learning the different spark patterns that occur when steel is ground (which allows you to see which additives are in the steel and how high the carbon content is ) took almost 16 months. Then the training on the mobile spectrometer and last but not least the final examination in theory and practice. Here, too, I spoke to the laboratory manager after work to find out exactly how the device works. That made the director really happy and we became friends, which helped me a lot to later become self-employed in the IT industry, because he showed me how to disassemble computers, swap components and optimize programs. That was in the late 1980's, early 1990's, before the Intel 80286 was starting to make its way into the private market and the WWW didn't really exist then. But what I want to say with the story, if an opportunity arises, you have to seize it, you can always develop further.
I'm "slow" too, but nothing like what you describe. I worked in software and system engineering. I worked slow, or methodical, almost all the time. But whether I was writing code, configuring hardware, integrating software with hardware, or documenting or troubleshooting ... working carefully in my case saved a ton. I enjoyed my jobs. I'd often skip breaks or forget lunch. 🙈🙈🙈🙈 But if I had a more physical job, I completely agree with you. Taking excessive breaks and not at least working at your teammate's pace is unacceptable. Maybe the work is too physical for him. That's fine, then the job just isn't a right fit. You seemed to have given him more than a fair shake.
Same. Landscaping was rough for me because I didn’t have the strength. But the boss would yell at me and call me a pussy and all this stuff so I left. Was never treated like that at any other job and I work the same pace.
But when the code's all planned out and just needs to be written and QA'd, its the same kind of work. You can either take tons of breaks and it can take forever, or you can work hard, get it done, and go home.
I'm in software too. We had 1 guy who was "blazing fast", each project was BOOM BOOM BOOM, amazing.. Then 1 year down the line, I had to come across and mass upgrade all our projects to the latest and greatest.. I was going through them at a normal pace, until 1 absolutely destroyed me, it was so out of spec, it was unreal. Oh, okay.. eventually fixed it, moved on, a few more get updated, ahdn the another comes along and destroys me.. this cycle continues, but I get reprimanded for taking too long. Even though I am getting faster and faster with the "normal ones" because I have developed systems, these Odd ones just ruin it all. eventually I am reprimanded a 2nd time.. This time I MAKE my managers look into these odd projects, they agree they are not right.. I start putting them to the side. I'll deal with them later.. Yeah, it's "off schedule, but I am down to 1 lifeline left, I'm damned if I do, damned if I dont".. And then it happens, what happened to project w, x, y, z, why were they don't done.. I told them, they are all dodgy ones.. They eventually look up all the ones I have called odd, and all the ones I missed... They were ALL that single developers.. Needless to say I had my reprimands removed, and he had quite a talking too. So much for "ME" being slow.. but him being "quick" wasn't great either..
I live with a spinal cord injury and have been in construction most of my life since Highschool. I have a heavy limp in my right leg and it's always amazed me when I work circles around other guys in the crew. Firewood season is always fun when I bring guys on and they can't keep up. I'm a little guy 112 pounds and crippled. We are working with the county to install our own septic so I've been watching your vids to learn some stuff. Thanks for the informative content! Best of luck with your business even though this is a year out since your vids.
I feel bad you can't have a comfortable life after such a terrible injury, and bragging about working harder than able-bodied people just makes it more sad. like my man, if for some reason you couldn't keep up the pace they'd replace you in a heartbeat.
@@HalfPaceOutdoors you literally bragged about working harder than able-bodied people out of sheer need. people like us should be supported so we DONT have to destroy our bodies like cattle. and really all people
You’re the kind of person I wish I would have met and even worked for when I lived in NC for a short time. You do everything you can to make the job the best possible experience it can be for everyone involved. You deserve all the best life has to offer
As an entrepreneur, I enjoy hearing you talk about these difficult things. Feels good to know someone else has the same challenges. Thanks for sharing 😎👍🏼
Yes, in challenging moments, as I move my business to another model, I watch your videos. You inspire me. I look up to you as a role model. Thank you 🙏🏻
im 7 moths into my job. im not going to lie, im getting lazy at work. why? im damn pissed. for 2 months, i have been working solo. im fully expected to do two peoples jobs. stocking, customers, cleaning, photo development, inventory management. i have already told my manager last week, something needs to change soon or im putting my 2 weeks in. im done doing two jobs for barely more then minimum wage TLDR you are awesome James, you actually care about your employees. some (most) companies/corporations dont.
I tried to work a newspaper route, since I had months before getting back to work. The manager happily decided to give me two routes and expected me to learn both of them in one night. He didn't even give me the app for the route. One of the routes Looked like I would be running someone else's. Edit: I'm about to get back into a trucking position very soon.
In my opinion I think jobs end up like a new pair of boots, at first they're awesome, then they're fine, then they become worn down and rugged, then to top it off they're tearing at the seams and about to buckle. I work at a gas station, and for the first few months it was fine until I got talking to some of the coworkers. Apparently we're missing 3 more people to be considered truly full staffed. Our owner is cheap, so cheap labor is a must. The bare minimum employees to maximum efficiency is a must. So the result is 9 day work weeks at full time, crappy rigged payroll, minimum wage, enough work to keep 4 employees occupied, zero overtime whatsoever, etc. I'm fed up with it, I've just stopped caring. Normally I'm not a lazy person, I have good work ethic and haven't missed a day of work. Always show up on time, etc. But when you're worked to the bone for minimum wage, and the boss man ain't even seeing your work or telling you you're doing good I'm just done. Top it off, night and graveyard shifts don't do their jobs and leave it for me because "I'm the one that does it." Nah fam. I honestly don't care if I get fired at this point, time to get a new pair of boots.
As a fellow construction company owner I can attest that not everyone can handle labor heavy jobs. You have to get those that font want to work out as they make more work for everyone else. I was raised and brought up with a many handle makes light work mentality and always lead by example but won’t tolerate laziness. Slow work can be explained and OK based on conditions but laziness is different than just slow it’s working inequitably and below what you’re capable of.
My family was so lucky when we bought our homestead as the repair guy whose worked on this property for years did all the maintance/repairs and he was qualified, licensed, bonded, and injured! Now we KNOW we have a guy scheduled to do yearly septic maintance and anything else that comes up on a iron clad lock. The man is a gem, works extremely hard, very nice and the price is very fair.
So glad you posted this explanation. Keeping people in a job where they are clearly not a fit can do so much damage to the working environment. Really impressed by the steps you took to give this person an opportunity.
I’m in watching and only 2 and a half minutes into your video and I would have loved to be employed by a gentleman like you in my life. I also am disabled and I have never used my disability to apply for benefits or to refuse work. I have only 35 % of my heart function since I was a child, weighed 135 pounds till I retired . I am now clearing a small forest on my sister’s property about 2 acres. Gosh people, take pride in what you do, life rewards you for it.❤❤❤
@@cliffordmanning1306 the man agreed to a certain pay for a certain job, and he couldn't do the job for the agreed pay. Sounds like a worthless employee to me
@@justinmc415 The job may have not been represented properly. Point being, we don't have the context to make judgements and we're hearing the story from one side. Anything we say is worthless conjecture. Granted, I'd imagine this dude was just lazy, but there's a reason that contracts can be found unconscionable. Anything less than a fair day's work for a fair day's pay is immoral, agreements be damned.
Hey James I really want to say I appreciate you guys as people, most jobs I've been on, if someone isn't working well, and they're not doing well, personal issues and seeing if something's going on in their personal life that can be fixed with financial help, therapy, a place to stay, etc. That's the last thing most Businesses think about. I really appreciate you guys helping your employees and giving people genuine chances. You seem like a great man to work for and your employees look genuinely happy, even in videos where you give them shit for mistakes!
I'm belatedly catching up on your stuff but thank you for ruling out medical or personal stuff and also giving a fair shot seeing directly for yourself. My best boss ever did that when I was going through extremely heavy stuff on both fronts - multiple on each front. And I was trying to push through it and didn't realize how bad/apparent it was until he laid it out and asked if something was going on he didn't know. Yep. Offered help, said he didn't need details but I could share if I wanted, worked with me to get back on track and I've worked my ass off since. He actually left a few years later and I picked up half his job for a year until they hired a new department head, that's how much bounced back from edge of being fired. And some folks that's not the case and I've been the inspector equivalent and it sucks, but that's how it goes. Work for a nonprofit and we spend our money wisely, if we're paying you to work less than baseline that's basically throwing out money our donors and funders give us trusting us. Nah. Aaaand I've been on the flipside where a lower level supervisor was trying to throw me under the bus for their laziness and mismanagement, and the big boss just took their word. Did the same to a coworker before me and fired him on supervisor word alone - and I knew from working with them for years at a previous job that was nonsense. One of the hardest working most detail oriented people I've ever known. But I got a unsolicited job offer hours after I was also put under review for bullshit that was really the supervisor's cumulative f--k ups and immediately took it. Heard they did the same thing to other folks after I left. Anyway they're gone now, entire office, great job overpaid lazy supervisor and boss who couldn't be bothered to wonder "hey weird how my supervisors keep telling me it's the workers who suck, maybe there's a pattern and I'm firing (or attempting to fire) the wrong people". Good riddance.
It's nice that you explain all of this, and it's nice you do all you can to help an employee before they cause their own demise. Yes, lack of productivity does make it harder for everyone else.
Well handled telling this story with support / retraining context. I find myself often reminding business owners that hiring and timely firing is ultimately their job for the good of the business and working environment-good to hear it here too! Too much pride can lead to denial and burnout easily. I see too many well-intentioned workers hit burnout then start sandbagging rather than admit they were less fit to start than they appeared. There’s that joke about the priest who falls out of a boat, and rejects 3 rescue attempts, proclaiming his faith god would save him. At the pearly gates, the priest asks why god didn’t save him-the answer was “I tried to save you 3 times!”
Hi James, I greatly admire how much you treat your employees with care and empathy. You most certainly go above and beyond to treat the people at your company as humans. It's awesome that you asked him if he's going through a rough patch in life. And that you're willing to allocate company resources any way you can to help him. I wish I could work for you.
the best advice I got before the first day of my first job, was from my grandfather. He told me never to be idle, “pick up a broom if you find yourself sitting still”.
My boss hired me to do a specict job I give 110percent while I do that job. When I work with my boss directly it is always something weird random and out of the scope of work I was hired for.. I knew I was going to have to do other things but give 110 percent for stuff that is out of my normal job description no thnk you. I also will not break my body just because that's how he works.
@@dustinhotchkiss5504 yup. Had a employee do something they weren’t trained for because the boss asked and they started a fire inside his work station last week haha. Didn’t get payed extra for it or anything either.
"Never let the boss outwork you." Amen to that Sir. Amen to that. If you're slow, then you had best look like you are really, truly working at the job!
@@vincedibona4687Actually, I've been running a successful one since 2020, when I started during one of the worst times in modern history to try and start a business. Thanks for playing. 😁
I am a industrial/ commercial HVACR service tech.When I started out 31+ years ago .I carried the tools set up the ladders and lugged the equipment and ran for stuff .The Journeyman carried the knowledge and expertise schooled me in the trade so that I could advance to being a journeyman.Most of the young guys today are scared to break a sweat do any labor ( it is called skilled labor for a reason ) and want to play on their phones all day and get paid .I can’t tell you how many young guys I have kicked off my job-site for not wanting to work and or learn who soon after got shit canned .What’s worse I am a far easier and help them lug the stuff around and take it next level in training them which is not how it used to be when I came up .
I’ve watched this video before and now I’m watching it again. I wish more bosses were like you and I think it’s awesome you did everything you could to get to the bottom of why the job wasn’t getting done instead of just giving up and moving on to another candidate. 💪🏾
I work for a landscape company and we have been struggling for 2 years to find a new helper. Finally my boss hired a 65 year old local retiree, he outworks every young kid we tried in 2 years. Too many people just don't want to or know how to work hard!
I used to work in construction, and I totally get this. Is was clearly laziness. On the other hand though, I’ve also been in situations where I was yelled at for working slow. The thing was though, was that they were expecting me to carry WAY more than I was physically capable. They wanted me to carry three plywood boards which were 8’x10’ at least. I carried two at a time, as I couldn’t lift three. But the guy who cut the tenant’s power connection instead of the drywall? (And somehow didn’t die) Totally fine. I should also point out that other sites I’d worked on for other companies (it was via a temp agency) would always praise me for my hard work. I’d have even gotten a permanent job offer from one of the last places I’d worked, if I hadn’t told my boss I was moving out of state.
Man, I love your channel. I work manual labor at an industrial linen washing facility, and i work in the most physically demanding department. When i first started, i was out of shape, chunky, and pretty slow with little stamina. Normally I've always been fit, but i did let myself go lol. Anywho, my two current supervisors lead me to achieve greatness. One whom taught me the basic knowledge of the job, and let me learn hands on, and then my evening supervisor, my favorite lol, let the fire under my ass that i really needed. His name is Noah. An older guy, and man, he put me through the ringer haha. He was with me every step of the way, and once i was out perorming him on a regular, he gave those props. I had never gelt so good in my life. Because of what they did for me, they have my undying loyalty.
I agree with everything! But I must say, paying your inspectors based on commission doesn’t seem very ethical to me. My problem with it is that the inspectors are incentivized to find problems that may not actually be an issue, it’s not in the best interest of the customer
It depends in the person. I worked on commission for years and I didn't look for extra things to charge. I was straight and to point. My reputation is important to me and the customer referrals that I got more than I can keep up with and that made up than being a scumbag.
Commission doesn't incentivize finding problems that aren't problems. Any sort of bonus or incentive structure can do that - for short sighted people. But the thing of that is it costs a currency no company can afford to lose - their reputation, and repeat business. People with a long term view *will* care about that reputation - and even if the employee doesn't, the boss *will* and that sort of greed will (or should) get rooted out *before* it costs the company money. Not after.
130lbs? You definitely have a much bigger presence the way you speak and carry yourself. Thank you for sharing real experiences that are eye openers. Definitely learning and applying your values in my daily life. Thanks! 🙌
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 Like when the auto mechanic charged me $800 to lie to me and say they replaced a part. I ended up having to go and get it fixed again somewhere else. I make sure everyone I know, knows to avoid that place. I hope they go bankrupt and I do my part to help them go bankrupt every chance I get for stealing 2 weeks of my life from me.
I’ve typically worked physically demanding jobs with men my whole life and I can relate to this frustration all too well! You would think a man wouldn’t want a female coworker to out work him. That would be really embarrassing to me. There are some people that are just straight up lazy and really don’t care. I take pride in my work ethic and I can’t understand why someone wouldn’t. 🤦🏼♀️
People that are lazy are laughing at you inside. To them, you're the fool. You can't fix that attitude with in-work training. Agreed, very frustrating people to work with.
In my opinion u seem like a good boss, and person to work for a lil hard sometimes but also have compassion and care about your employees that's awesome
I appreciate you making these videos detailing concepts related to work ethic, attitude, and giving real world examples with a constructive criticism on how a situation could be approached and improved upon. I don't want to disparage the US public school system but I wish that work and career skills were repeated and reinforced more regularly than I experienced attending public highschool in California. They did try to prepare us with practicing interviews etc but I feel that the real world examples of positive work ethic vs employees who are only with the company for a short time and why they don't fit long term is at least equally as valuable a learning experience as practicing mock job interviews as part of your sophomore English class. And I do also realize that California is something like 48th in the nation as far as state public school quality, but I still appreciate your anecdotes and lessons nonetheless.
Always love hearing about these lazy ass dudes givin every chance they can to get better while I’m over here, a welder that got fired because they had me reorganize their storage room and sweep up metal dust and got fired for being “unmotivated” Keep in mind I worked there for 2 weeks and they never let me touch a welder. The thing I was trained to do
@@sethdistler5332 I got a job at a place called Lippert Components, had no experience in welding whatsoever. They hired me, taught me how to read blueprints for the chassis, taught me how to weld and use a plasma cutter and all that, but while we were being taught, there were some menial jobs that needed to be done. One of them was a saw that they used to cut the steel beams, it was being moved and painted yellow and so was the floor around it. The trainees were told to get mineral spirits and get as much paint removed as we could. I did what I was told. One of the other guys said "this is BS, I wanted to work here to weld, not to be a b*tch" and was promptly fired. I went on to increase my pay by 40% before overtime and worked there for a few years. Not sure what the other dude did I got trained in a highly desirable job for free, all for doing dumb crap. And got paid good to do it.
Sounds like you are the problem. Maybe feel them out for a month or so and communicate your abilities to them instead of being mad because they gave you, the new guy, the duties of the new guy.
The boss at my work, which granted is food service, has been with the company 10 years and outworks everybody else combined including the owners. Other managers have told her that, if she runs out of the steamers, it's because the people pulling the meat out of the steamers are too slow. She replied to him, "No, it means I'm rocking it! I can fill every streamer in under a minute." And she's right, I have seen her do it on multiple occasions in the year and a half that I have worked for her. She is the queen of speed and I'm one of only two setup people who can try to keep pace with her, and the other one is deaf but has been here as long as she has and, because of her disability, that's the only job she can do other than prep. Earlier today, when I arrived, we were extremely busy. We had 4 people pulling meat out of steamers, and all of them were standing around doing nothing while every steamer is full because the setup guy is doing one at a time and at a very slow pace. Now, I don't like kicking people out of their jobs, even if they're getting killed and I know I can fix it. The way I see it, I'm not a manager, I'm a fellow employee, and they can and have every right to get mad at me for stealing their station and I have seen people start yelling swear words at each other in front of customers and threaten to kick each other's asses. I don't want anything to do with that, so I just don't try and take other people's spots. So I'm just kinda standing there waiting for the boss to make the call. She does and we're caught up in 10 minutes because not only do I work faster than him, I also make two sandwiches at a time.
I am a retired concrete flatworker /foreman. You are 100% correct when you say that not everybody is made for manual labor. And one of the best thing I ever heard from my boss was a new hire, first day and it was a day when concrete hit the ground on a pretty good size parking lot and the concrete was late on every load so it was haul ass because they were hot loads of mud. So the boss always shows up on big pours and this kid kept asking for a break and the boss finally looked at him and said "Ya' got a break when you were hired, now get you ass back to work!!! I will never forget that one.
@@SLOCLMBR even if you suck at what you're doing, make sure the boss knows you're putting in the effort. Its okay to be bad at a job for a bit. It is not okay to be bad and lazy.
I probably won't work as hard as the Boss or owner. I absolutely 100% pull my weight. But a manager or owner can't expect a regular employee, to work as hard, or harder than them. Because you don't get the same financial compensation. You are paid less than your boss and owner. You are not paid to out work, or out care them.
@@richardpuckett8127 when it comes to tree work usually the boss is 50+ years old while usually you are 18-25 years old. While your boss yes has more stuff on his plate like meetings and payroll. If he’s out there doing physical work such as trimming for clearance for the power company, you better have 4 set ups by the time he comes out after his meeting in the morning and if he’s out helping drag brush to the chipper you better be dragging 3 good piles to his 1, and if it comes to climbing you better be in your 2nd tree before he thinks about getting his gear on. So where the motto “work hard or stay home” comes in we get paid by units not hours.
Now I've never had the pleasure of firing a loser, but to me people act like this because of modern HR nonsense and labor laws. I did landscaping grunt work for a guy's small business when I was 18-22 years old. Never had a problem with my boss. The only thing I remember him complaining about was I forgot my wallet multiple times requiring him to buy me lunch. If I acted like this employee I would have been fired after maybe 2 days max of bullshit. He has multiple customer houses to make progress on and deadlines. He would tell me finding reliable people was difficult. Not that they would do a bad job, but that they would call out of doing any work at all usually.
Man u handled this so perfect u gave him time n time again I do septic work my self guy I work for is awesome I try to keep him out of the hole as much as possible n absolutely I was taught if u ain't making the boss/company ur not needed
Lol, you had multiple inspectors assess him, you gave remedial training, you had the office staff council him, you directly observed him That is NOT firing “on the spot”. That is considered, and deliberate, with attempts at rehabilitation. It is not “on the spot”
@@JamesButlerWellAndSepticLife it's not sensational but is good business practice, like you said you don't want to fire people it causes other problems. I can't believe I'm addicted to your channel, you sound like a great boss
I had remedial training like 3 years into the job for like 1 item of 100 item list and I greatly improved from it my bosses all care about me and are amazing
@@plangelierwot Doesn't he not really sounding like a great boss but one that you wish you had on the same ethics really. Like it is a job I could never do because of the smell. But yeah like if other managers, bosses and owners took notes and lessons how to operate from him. Than it would be alot better for people.
@@davidscott9097 And they would see their employee turn over drop drastically, while their overall production rose. There is no substitute for motivation, and feeling respected goes a long way to maintaining moral, which directly affects motivation.
James. I respect your hustle so much. it must be hard to run your own business when you're dealing with employees and payroll and whatnot. I run a computer repair business--by myself. can't imagine dealing with all the jerk offs that you gotta deal with man. I just deal with crappy customers and that's it.
Thanks for sharing--this advice seems obvious to some people, but others are raised differently or not socially aware to see the signs of failure. You are correct, everyone on the boat needs to pull its weight, or the boat will slow down or sink when it is not profitable and efficient.
and have all my workplace drama televised for the youtube updoots? Miss me with that. Bosses who yap on the phone and internet like teenage girls are the worst. Bet this guy would unironically ask me why I dont have a Facebook account during a job interview.
I’m lazy as well, there are books I want to read or games I want to play. I work as Internal Helpdesk for a company. I learned early on if I do my work fast, efficiently, and correctly I can get back to dicking around quickly. I let everybody know who asks me how I do so well, even my boss. I put in maximum effort to get back to being lazy
I did that in my teens. I was a packaging supervisor. My boss saw me standing around for 5 minutes every hour n called me lazy. When I change positions in the company they had to get 2 people to do my job lol
@@ChalkyHonky I Busted my butt at a factory checking on all the settings making sure everything was running well and safe, and all tasks were completed, running around ragged for like 2 and a half hours so I could take a short break to get off my feet, and I clocked it and not 2 min my boss came over and was yelling at me when I was ahead of scheduled, and that was when i was like F*** this and this job. They can get someone else who I KNOW would now have put in as much effort or done as well as I did. I was commended by several of the higher staff in the company for being a hard worker, but that among other things was the final straw. Which is really I would rather be paid for the job or work done and not by the hour because I could decide when I needed a break, if my feet are killing me then fine don't pay me, but it's demotivating when you are doing the jobs of two people and then getting yelled at for being lazy. F*** that boss. I still hear they haven't been able to fill the position I left half a year ago.
I appreciate your work ethic and how you don't ask an employee to do something you yourself aren't prepared to show them (when needed) how to properly and safely perform the tasks as expected. If I lived nearby I would apply gladly to work for you.
I've worked as a manager and a business owner, and I've hd to fire people before too. It's never the first option and it's never easy, but I've never had an time when it wasn't 100% self inflicted. Worst one I had to do was fire a guy for attendance- he mad missed almost 3 weeks of work time in the last year, for various reasons, some valid, some not. The final straw was him calling in to take care of a "family emergency"- this happened a LOT with this guy. He fought me and HR over the issue for literal months. I get it if you have a legit emergency, but when you ALSO call out because your too tired to work after a weekend vacation (one of his given reasons) then you are shooting yourself ln the foot wasting time off that you NEED to use when there is a real emergency. In a similar vain, I work for a public utility company and I've heard every sob story under the sun to try and get someone's utilities restores- an all time favorrite is "I have a sick kid/grandparent/other seriously ill person" and need it resorted ASAP. I'll work with someone to help them out, but when I look at your account and you haven't paid a single dime in over a year, how do you expect me to care about your family issues when you obviously do nto care yourself? TLDR_ don't waste your time and money on stupid stuff and expect someone else to care about the time and effort you have wasted screwing yourself over.
Been having a friend's teen son apprentice (general trades) with me. Seriously impressed with the work ethic, knew to get right on stuff very little prompting.
This is why we should have never removed P.E. Requirements from public education. I’ve worked in residential construction since 2003, and the youngest workers can’t keep up with a 50 year old woman.
Back when I was running a department in a glass factory, there was a 60 year old guy that out worked 20 year olds. I would tell those kids that I would be embarrassed if a 60 year old was out working me.
im the 60 year old your talking about im doing it and have been for the past 10 years its realy disheartening to see what these young guys are like now days i cant wait ---24 more months and im gone lettem bankrupt the company ..............
@@phlodel them kids were raised by pieces of crap. I would get smacked in the head at ten years old If I didnt pick up the shovel or any hard work and let an older employee do it! Was a great life lesson hard work pays off
@@ChalkyHonky It's pretty pervasive. I was working repairing an oil rig. we had to lift a very heavy piece of pipe into position. One of my co workers observed "Every man down here preparing to lift is over 40. Every man up there with a bolt in his hand is in his 20s. What's wrong with this picture?" The young guys refused to lift.
God damn, it's nice to see there are still some small business owners that take pride in what they do and don't just try and survive "the machine" of bullshit they have to go through. You'd probably never gonna see this swat cop comment, but CZcams has been on fire promoting your stuff; because your mentality matches the Sergeants that I love to work for. Good for you, great on you and your employees, and god bless the hard working people you have just doing the American dream!
I work for a shipping company supervising people loading packages into trailers. I tell people, if I'm handling more boxes than you, you need to work harder or find someplace else to work. AND, I also tell them I'm not asking them to bust their ass 100% of the time, that's not working effectively, kick ass when required and take breaks when able!
you do realize others aren't going to be able to keep up with you on the fly right at the start. Keep in mind everyone is different, they excel in different ways. Heck, they might help make things go faster and quicker if you're open to their ideas. But it doesn't sound like it with the attic you just expressed above.
I've had 3 jobs I wasn't physically capable of doing when I started. One required a lot of arm strength. I hit the gym doing back and upper body. Two required a lot of shoveling. It took me two months to get to the point it was easy. Number three, after 5 months I was still struggling badly. I went to my boss and had a chat. He loved me as an employee but we agreed that if I couldn't do it physically it was best we part ways. My health had finally caught up with me. A couple of months later I was in a coma sooooo yeah, good call.
Nah, you just lazy?!!?? (This sarcasm.) I hate when people say there are tons of jobs out there, yes, there are tons of jobs out there, but a lot of jobs as you said, some people cannot do, or dont think the risk of the job over their health is worth it, and a lot of jobs, companies treat employees poorly, or are outsourcing to other countries, further lowering the amount of jobs people can do here.
Most people don't understand that people's bodies will begin to break down long before they realize they're not capable anymore. My first thought was that dude didn't realize that he had a heart problem. I ended up in a coma from overwork myself (14 hour days, no exercise) and that's not the way you wanna find out or figure out or be made to change from where you are and how you are operating at work.
It sounds like you gave this person due process. You inquired regarding personal/medical issues that could have affected his work. You counselled him regarding his performance and provided additional training. You became involved personally to observe and verify first hand the issues that had been reported. The ball was in this guy's court and it appears that he dropped it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for trying your best to impart words of wisdom to mankind. People need help and you are sincerely trying to give your best to them. God bless you.
When I was first promoted to manager and needed to fire an employee for poor performance my CEO actually sat me down for a talk. He said "When to terminate someone's employment you are changing the entire course of their life. So be sure you did everything you could for them." I've carried that with me for the last 15 years and is some of the best business advice I ever received. He was the kind of CEO you wish was the norm.
It sounds like you're not to far off. Putting employees first is hard, and you did everything you could (and then some).
Unlike said employee who seemed like he wanted to stand around with his hands in his pockets, handing the boss some tools and getting paid for JUST that. I know guys like this that will then complain about the pay and even openly say "I won't give my full effort for this pay"..even after everyone at the location got a pay rise.
@@lidge1994 Some people will always do the bare minimum, no matter what the job. Also, I don't buy the "give my full effort for this pay" excuse that people try to use. Unless the pay got lowered after you were hired, you know what the pay is going into it. Especially for small companies like this where you are dealing with actual people, not some soulless corporation who doesn't give two shits about you.
@@wmpx34 It's an excuse to stop people asking why you're not doing your job. Which is why I'm an avid supporter of docking pay for fuck-ups and poor performance (if intentional) and rewarding good performance and doing things you weren't asked to do that help everyone else.
He worked there for three weeks. He was barely an employee.
I've had 12 jobs over the years, and I've been fired once, a few weeks after telling my boss I was pregnant. He claimed it was bad performance but had given a 2$ an hour raise previously. Didn't make sense, I know in that field I'd be considered a liability. I'm terrified of telling a boss about pregnancy or anything female that might be effecting job performance, even when it's not my fault and I'm doing everything I can to have it not affect my job. I've hidden pregnancies up to 32 weeks, hidden sciatica issues, back problems due to pregnancy. That one fire definitely affected me for life. I work will all men and it feels like to stay employed I have to hide my feminine self
I’m quite overweight but when the hole needs to get dug, ya dig it! My dad taught me you can take a break when the work is done so you can sit there and look at the accomplishments you have completed, not the dreaded work you have left.
^ this right here. All of this. ^
Ooooo!! I love that! My dad and I used to take breaks part way through and that’s ALL we did was bitch about what we had left to do. Wish we would have looked at it like this.
That’s awesome
I’ll get half way done, then I’ll be like shoot I’m half way there 😂
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I've worked in fast paced call centers for going on 7+ years now. I was used to taking 80 calls a day in an 8 hour shift. I worked at a burger place once and got fired for being too slow. I can navigate 2 screens with 11 different applications open. Give customers details they need, but when it came to taking orders at a burger place I sucked. Sometimes the job isn't for you.
that's a very good example. also 11 applications on two screens while talking with someone you dont know is impressive
hats off to you but thats a pretty stupid take. im sure when you started you couldnt handle 80 with 2 screens and 11 apps. I think youre an amazing learner, but are task specific, so you need time.
Sam Walton was once told that he wasn't cut out for retail.
@@ToneBajc how is that a stupid take? some people arent cut out for certain jobs. I can build a house from the ground up, I can diagnose and repair any issue on any car, and i can outrun the vast majority of tow truck drivers. notice i said driver. I am not a driver, I am an operator. any monkey can hold a steering wheel, it takes a bit of intelligence and a lot of common sense to do it at my level.
fast food may be a bad example. ive had too many wrong orders for me to have any respect for any of the people working at any of the places around me. and these clowns want $15 an hour for mediocrity.... however, i can build hot rods and race cars at a level most people only dream of. I can fix anything. with all the right tools i could tear a car completely apart and put it back together in a single weekend. the body and paint on that car would be well above even some of the best known hot rods that have been in magazines for decades (not in a single weekend for that part obviously). itll look better and last longer than 99% of trash that everybody drools over at sema.. ask me to go on a used car lot and sell that exact same car, i couldnt do it.
I can also outdrive about 99% of the population. I have about as much respect for the people on the road every day as i do for mcdonalds employees. especially most of the "professionals" on the road. somehow training requirements went up and actual skill went down. thats why im actively working on starting my own transport business. do what youre good at.. but if you can hack it at in fast food, i hope you find something you can do because thats honestly sad..
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but talking on the phone is not a "fast paced job". Then you bragged about screens and applications. What you really mean to say is "I absolutely cannot handle manual labor."
As a fellow 135lb guy, I feel you. Always frustrating to finish a harsh job and find out all the big fellas have been in the ac.
This guy is the example of a boss and business owner. He literally rules out the problem down to to the personal level even asking to help the person with those problems.
I wish I had a boss like this.
I disagree. This, to me, is THE example of a LEADER.
Much respect!
maybe build an envelope of leadership and form a union.
I agree!
I had a boss who would say stuff like that. They are willing to do that because they want you focused on the job, not worrying about other problems and having other stuff on your mind when you should be working.
I've had a boss like him before. Wish I could have stayed at that job forever but it was just for a single project and we all separated.
I just thought of a conversation I overheard that I think you would appreciate. I was getting my roof done; at the time, code required one row of ice guard at the eaves. I told the contractor I wanted two rows, because reasons; he said he personally didn't think it was necessary, but if I was sure I wanted it, it would add $X to the job; I agreed to that. I overheard him talking to his crew the first morning; he mentioned two rows of ice guard. One of his guys said "Oh, man, that sucks, why do we have to do TWO rows?" It got real quiet for a second, and the boss said "Because it's what our customer wants, and it's what our customer is paying for, and it's what we're going to do. Any other questions?" 😁
A quote from the movie The Equalizer "When they pay; They say"
You're paying you have the say.
Hell Yeah, just like it should be!
That boss contractor is a real one.
He's the type that wants his customer happy.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 more so he wants yo get paid and not have issues. Its more so thay than actually making customers happy. I dislike a solid 30-40% of my customers hahaha
@@jonny-b4954 We are the actions we make, not the thoughts we think. As long as you do just a good a job for people you dislike as the people you like they'll both provide the same free advertising to their friends and family likely indefinitely.
Haven't had to have my vehicle worked on at a shop in years thankfully. Still recommend the last garage to people with car trouble anytime it comes up.
I'm a slow worker, this is something of myself that I know very well. I worked in IT as an installer of wireless networking equipment for my first job and I generally take more time to do a physical job than any of my colleagues. This is why I worked hard on improving my skills and product knowledge such that I was able to work myself into a position where I no longer had to do a lot of physical work, but instead focus more on technical work (from configuring new systems to diagnosing problems and remote support). Over 10 years and a series of fortunate events and a lot of hard work now has me as the ops manager of the company (granted it's not a very big company). Note that there is a big difference between being lazy and being slow. Bad coordination, physical (un)fitness or lack of training/experience can make for a slow worker, some of which you can help them to improve, others can be harder to overcome. However, when someone is hiding from work, wasting time or making bullshit excuses such that someone else has to do their work for them, you are dealing with laziness which is a big problem and should be dealt with as soon as possible as it not only affects your business and income, but also negatively impacts the morale of the other employees.
I'm slow as well, especially early on. But I had one boss who noticed when I said I was done, I meant it. There was nothing left to do if I came to her saying I was done and it was always done well. In another job, I started slow and then got so fast, I had outpaced the incoming work. Lazy and slow are definitely not the same.
.Slow workers can be fixed. And in some cases they don't need to be fixed, Because they're used to being slow they're usually better at budgeting time. Main thing is I'd rather have a guy who does it slow once than a guy who does it fast three times Because he fucked up twice.
Can make up for being slow by working smart, not stopping and done perfect every time and 100+% thoroughly completed from documentation to new stock ordered to tools and messes gone.
I work slowly. Im young and inexperienced but I promise once ive done the job enough I can pick up the pace. I just always try to make sure im watching every angle and ensuring im doing everything correctly
@@synshenron798 and that's all you need to improve. Good attitude, honesty and willingness to learn. Asking questions.. that lets your boss and coworkers know they're not wasting their time with you.
And if that's not enough then maybe it's not a job for you or maybe it's not a good company. The best company I worked for I had right after it didn't work out with another company. I wish you to find that dream job my friend!
My dad used to say, "He's certainly not afraid of hard work. He can lay down right next to it and take a nap". 😂
Sounds like my Grandpa. His saying was: "That boy must be fascinated by hard work, 'cause he can sit and watch someone else do it all day"
Self employed for about 12 years. If I ever have to work with/for someone again I would absolutely enjoy working for a company that runs like yours. Great mind set and business skills.
Great comment stewie
I've been self employed for 20 years. I've had help off and on but not much lately. I recently put a helped wanted sign out for skilled labor. No calls in 3 weeks. I'm offering free basic tools even. People don't want to work...
@@jwh1776 I don't understand how people aren't working its insane. With the price of everything I'm taking a beating so bad this year that I've almost worked myself broke if that makes sense. People aren't spending the money for home maintenance and repairs in my area . I'm the same with labor my hiring is short term and paid cash. If I grew enough to be able to supply a few guys with a good wage and provide them stability it would be a dream come true but hell I'm barely above water this past year and if it don't get any better I'm going to have to be employed under someone and suck it up until something falls through. Not liking 2022 at all.
I was a self employed window fitter that subcontracted out to companies and got paid per item I fitted. (Also, done pretty much every job in the building trade, outside of electrics.) The company I worked for 10 years went under during COVID lockdowns so I had to get a temporary retail job, god damn... nobody knows what hard work is. I'd constantly get praise from bosses even when I felt like I was slacking off. It's insane to me how little people do, call in sick, show up late, leave early and still expect paying.
@@jwh1776 if only this were the case. The us economy could only sustain wage stagnation for so long before we eventually hit a wall where people refused to take on a job unless it let them live, and the boomers all retired leaving higher paying jobs available or high-ish paying jobs with better working conditions/benefits than those in the service sector. I do not claim to know your individual situation including starting pay and location, but i wouldnt rule out the idea that many people u seek to hire are already hired at even something as simple as a wearhouse job
I've literally had that conversation "hey is there anything in your life that's causing you to not pull your weight".
And there was I was running on 3-4 hours of sleep a night for weeks and I was so fried and hadn't figured to ask that of myself.
I will always remember how it felt to have a boss, give a shit about finding out what the real cause might be.
Because they did, I was able to address the problem, and ended up being around to solve some pretty major problems for them.
Could you describe that feeling? Im trying to imagine
@willy29111992wk feels like someone's caring about you and either seeing your potential or not seeing it yet but wants to see it. Feels the opposite of how an asshole would make you feel. Feels human. Feels like you are given the chance to overcome lack of experience or whatever problem you might have. Never underestimate the impact of treating someone with or without respect can have on their life. And yours.
I had a boss like that once too. I was using up all my unplanned vacation days as sick days because I had health issues that were female related. Luckily my boss was a woman because I didn’t feel comfortable explaining my problems with a man but she understood what I was going through because the same thing had happened to her. She called me at home to find out why I was missing so many days because that wasn’t like me at all.
I wish that there were more employers such as yourself. You are a good person.
I realize this video is 2 years old, I just needed to comment on it though. You speak the absolute truth and you are inspiring. I'd love to have a boss like you. I've always tried to set a good work ethic example for my kids, which hasn't always been easy due to some of my own physical limitations. However, my son is the type of person to learn a job as he's been trained to do it, and work out more efficient ways to do that job that are both time saving and more productive. His bosses from the time he was a teenager have always loved him. My daughter has also worked hard at every job she's had and now owns her own specialty dog grooming shop. Two girls that work in her shop have decided that they're going different routes and will no longer be there after the first of the year. My daughter is stressed, but she's a smart cookie and I know she'll find a way to get a couple more groomers to work with her. I currently work for a casual dining restaurant. So far my bosses have been pretty good. I struggle more with seeing the lack of work ethic in some of my much younger co-workers. I'm twice their age with various health issues that should limit my abilities. However, I tend to work circles around them while they stand around during slow times on their phones or joking around. I do my best every day to not be limited by my health. Young people today do their best to put the least amount of effort needed into their jobs and think that's okay. I know it's part in how they're raised, but it's also an internal belief that "just enough is good enough". It's so frustrating to see. Specially as a manager, which I was one for many years. Bless you and all that work with and for you.
I cannot imagine being previously spoken to, having an issue pointed out, and not fixing it *in front of your boss.* Clearly, you guys make a great work environment for the team and instead of recognizing that, he took advantage of it.
I'd have your guys work on my place, any day! Drinks and a snack are prepped if we know it's a long job 🥤
That’s my take as well. The entire process described about how many chances this dude had to improve is amazing! Sounds like a great place to work and great people to work with. Anyone who is going to pull everyone else down doesn’t need to be in the company.
I honestly can't imagine being spoken to by the office girl, about not digging a ditch fast enough...
i'd probably dig a hole for her.
two different worlds we're from.
I'd think it's a joke. Any business that would have the "office girl" talk to a digger about how performance has a lot more problems than what's shown on youtube.
imagine someone more intelligent than a shovel operator working for this guy, he'd get sued.
@@peeonu25 So you’ve never heard of an Human Resources department, then? They are office staff who discuss work issues that can lead to reprimands or termination in a way that (hopefully) helps the staff while limiting the risk to the company. Pretty much every large company has these staff and I expect that includes companies who need workers to dig holes for any reason. Poor job performance is certainly one of the things that HR department staff would talk to a staff member about so that if the staff member gets fired the company can show that they tried to counsel the staff on the issue that cost them their job and not that the staff member was fired for any reason made up by the staff member after the fact.
EX, “They fired me because they’re racist.” “I have a job record here showing the staff member was counseled on poor job performance over a month prior to their firing. The record further shows that they did not improve their performance, leading to their termination.”
Based on what’s written above, which of those two people do you think wins a court case?
@@orangutantapioca1530 its required by law... You have too, as an employer. you must show youve taken verbal, written and physical action before you repremand an employee... Dudes not being a "good boss"
It's wrongfuI termination if the steps are not taken.
you're a judge?The whole video is a sexual harassment and deframation suit waiting to happen. Between mentioning age, gender etc of his employees. I wouldn't think you have a clue what a judge would do. Some of these videos about his "employees", if real.... Are legitmate lawsuits. You think you have an idea who would win a court case? Any decent boss... Knows you can't be a boss while working tools. First rule of manual labor. Dudes inspectors are upset cuz his new hire wont pack 3 or 4 shit hoses at once? He's hourly, they commission.
Want a fantasy that makes sense? This dude is bascially asking his workers to carry a tool bag up a ladder, or to walk backwards up stairs. Clearly, hed like to see his helpers RUN.
How do you counsel "hard work"? How do you counsel someone to carry more things ERGONOMICALLY?
You can't....
Ive been apart of many wrongful termination suites. When HR looks at you and says "were lawyers today" and you have to remind them "no you're HR and I'm a Foreman" I'll tell you right now any judge would love to hear HR called "office girls"
A few of you down here don't know what "at will" employment means. It's commendable to try and reform poor performance, but not required.
1.) Speed doesn't matter as long as you're consistent. Consistency is what sets you apart from the lazy guys. 2.) Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It's not a race. 3.) If the boss is out there breaking a sweat, you better be drenched with sweat and working your ass off. That's not so you'll get a prize for best worker or anything like that, that's just what is expected.
My grandpa taught me those lessons. he was a retired marine master sergeant the fought in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.
Digging can be hard work, and construction, and a lot of manual labor jobs do require people to be physically fit.
I dont do that type of stuff, and I know I cant handle that type of stuff without being very slow. I also have a thing where if I have a job, I do kinda prefer being told what to do, but I also hate a boss thats overlooking every single little thing I do.
And I like this guy, he seems like a reasonable boss you dont have to fear. In this type of job, yes working with the boss, and working as hard as the boss makes sense. However in some jobs, a lot of managers see employees as replaceable, and feel like they are looking for any reason to get rid of you. If a boss is going to treat me poorly, I’m going to treat my job poorly. In a lot of places, managers seem to feel like they are better than everyone below them. The US work culture in general feels pretty toxic, compared to other countries, we have very poor labor laws compared to Europe, and very poor culture compared to like Japan.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist people are replaceable. He didn't ask this guy to apply for the job this guy applied on his own that means he understood there would expectations. The problem with the workforce today is its full of pussies who won't work and they just call HR when you try to tell them they have to pull their weight. These lazy bastards need to be fired, and it wasn't like he fired him the first day either, this guy had multiple opportunities to pick up the pace. Grow some hair on your balls and work harder
Speaking about this particular job didn't the boss say he only has like 37% lung capacity and he doesn't have the weight to push through the soil when it's tougher so maybe he's drenched and sweat because he's not built for the job I live in Illinois which is an at-will state which means your employer can fire you for any reason at any time and unless it's an extreme circumstance you can't even sue for wrongful termination
@@TwoStacks217 he's a smaller built man. That's it. He can do the job like anyone else it's just someone built heavier should be able to have an easier time doing the same job. The guy he fired was just not willing to work and kept making up excuses.
@@pootmahgoots8482 I understand why the guy got fired I'm just saying is I am 6'8 250 lbs so I could do the exact same job as somebody who is 5'8 135 lb and that guy would still be sweating way more than I am
I’ve been a semi truck owner operator and a company driver trainer over the last 32
years. As an O/O I prefer to hire people with absolutely no experience so that I can teach them how I expected them to drive and conduct themselves while representing my company. As one would expect, new drivers are slower and take much more time to complete what I usually consider simple tasks. It can be easy to forget how unnerving it can be as a rookie trucker, so I try my best not add undo stress to an already stressful situation for them, but after a certain amount of time you have to weed out those that aren’t suited for the job, or get lazy and milk the job. The company has to make money in order for the employees to make money, and usually when making someone available to other pursuits, I’ve felt I was doing them as much of a favor as myself. Not everyone is cut out for this line of work. On the flip side, I’ve had many, many rookies turn into exceptional drivers and kinda like a big brother or papa, I’m proud of them and the fact that I had something to do with their success.
Yo hire me I got a permit 😂
I tried training for like a month. When one put us on a dead- end mountain road with like a 13% grade (which i ended up having to back down like 2 miles) I quit taking students.
You are spot on. Some people wouldn’t work even if you plugged them in, just lazy..... these are usually the ones that complain about not getting a break. Love your comments and your work ethics.
I had a worker raise a stink because we took one of our breaks 20 minutes late once. He also went to the bathroom like 10 times a night, and left early because he "wasn't feeling well" every other shift. Needless to say he didn't last long.
I have had way too many jobs where the employer expects new hires to just magically be a perfect fit for the team or else they cut that person loose and roll the dice with the next one. It is mind-blowing and refreshing to see an employer who does the exact opposite, exhausting every chance to not just allow a new hire to improve but actively assist them in doing so before calling it off and terminating their employment. If only more employers were like you, we'd not only have a stronger workforce, but a happier and more highly skilled one. You rock, Sir.
Lord A-Mighty I have to agree so very hard. I work as a correction officer - max security prison in Texas.
New hires get 6 weeks of training ( YAY !!), which has about 4 weeks of Policies and Procedures ( umm, whaaa? But how do I ...) And a week of OJT (Okay, not so bad...) during which the new boot is supposed to shadow an experienced hand ( well okaaayy...). But when I went through, all the "mentors" were desk bosses - who had been there for years, and their experience meant they did not work pods. (Imagine if new hires on a construction site were assigned to sit with the boom crane operators. )
Yeah, not much practical knowledge gained there.
Oh. And three days of firearm safety training - with about 10 to 15 minutes of actual shooting ( 18 rounds of 0.357 at ranges from 6 ft to 25 ft. , 8 rounds of 0.223 at range of 30 yards and -1- ( yes, *one*) 12 ga round fired , ummm... thataway.
"Fortunately", none of the new boots will be assigned to any position where they will be required or permitted to carry any firearm.
I actually survived the first 6 months (well, I didn't quit or get fired) and a couple years later, I was a mentor to new boots. Up to 5 at a time !@@!
But I did what very few other COs were doing. I had *them* go out and do the @#$^job. I stood on the pod, watched them, and corrected them when they made mistakes. I showed them by direct example how to talk to prisoners in a BUNCH of situations. I screamed at prisoners. I cursed some out. I joked with some. I TOLD prisoners what I was a-fixin to do and I @$%^ did it.. I told the new boots about Policies and Procedures - and also about Practicalities and Perceptions.
For whatever reason, any new boots that worked with me had STORIES about their time with me when they would rejoin their class. (No. I didn't set up anything, this was all real s#$t from just "normal" operations.)
We had prisoners start fights. We had fires. We had floods. We had the kitchen deliver a bunch of spoiled meat sandwiches. We had offenders refuse to rack up - and those three newboots that night - got their chance to write 10 cases each for "failure to obey orders" - and the entire rest of their class only wrote 3 cases that entire week. And the .newboots brag/complained because I wrote 40 cases that night.
Those 3 new boots walked PROUD when they got assigned to work their very own pod later. And they all knew I would have their back, so long as they weren't dirty.
Yeah, you might nor be able to outwork the boss ( hey, the boss sometimes knows how to get it done better, easier, faster) but if you are working beside the boss, you dam well need to be showing your best effort.
@@mikesharkey2010 that's how you do it - I was the same in the engine room back in the Navy, while I was E-5 and expected to help run the work center, hell even as an E-4 whenever I had a guy training a watch under me... carried over to civ life, working tech support.
Bosses got mad when new peeps would tell incoming classes who sat in "got any questions forget the sup go talk to the guy in the corner with glasses and a ponytail, he knows more". Bosses didn't like the stream of people coming to my desk, not theirs. 🤣
There are some jobs though that shouldn't take much too learn, you don't have to be perfect you just have to show initiative and the willing to learn and show you have a good work ethic
I had a boss like you once. Great guy, excellent boss, nothing but good things to say. He gave me a chance, I tried my best, but I'm not meant to work with wood. Left on a good note and even got a positive reference from that as well. Thank you for being a solid guy and giving people a fair chance.
I've been there. Tried working in sales... I am not cut out for it. The boss gave me a chance and I tried my best, but at the end of the day I just couldn't do the job well enough to stay on.
Now I'm in a job I can do well and I'm sometimes the one training new guys. I give everyone a chance but some people either can't or won't do the work. I feel worse for the ones who have a good attitude and good work ethic but just can't hack it physically/mentally. When a guy shows up every day with 110% effort I will bend over backwards to make it work but sometimes it just won't work out no matter how hard you try. And no matter how positive or hardworking you are, if you're causing problems or safety issues you have to go.
James I absolutely love your channel. You say things so clearly and sensibly. A college professor here. I really don't understand how he didn't even strive to outwork you. I think hard work is a teaching tool. I packed and picked blueberries as a teen. It is hot, humid, hard work and you learn the value of making money and doing your part. Guy sounds like he really didn't want the job, but he cost everyone money and time. Not cool.
You gave this guy a LOT more credit than I would have.
I thought employers like you were fairytale. I'm 66, previously a bookkeeper. I've never even heard of employer's like you. But you know what, you've made me a better person. Thank you. You're gonna make a butt load of money. I'm pulling for you 👍🙋
I have had a LOT of shitty bosses in my day, and you genuinely seem like an incredibly solid dude to work for. This dude must not have had enough shitty bosses in the past to provide him with some context and appreciation, I can’t understand how anyone could piss away an opportunity like that
True words
I like the metaphors 😉😉
Couldn’t agree more!!!
This guy even though I do not know him in real life seems like a hardworking guy and cares about the people that are under him. I wish I would have had some bosses like him. He takes the time with his employees and sees if he can help them out before firing them.
You have to free them up to be good at what they can be good at.
You are a truly fair and decent human! In this day and age, it is good to know there are a few folks like you out there! 👍
Much respect to you for having the patience and thoroughly understanding his situation before letting him go.
I’m so glad I found the longer story’s
Thanks - I'm looking to put out more stories in the new year.
@@JamesButlerWellAndSepticLife would it be possible to change your CZcams account to the same user name as tiktok. It would be easier to find you
You did really good handling this. As a pipefitter from AL I have seen young people overloaded with copper, made fun of and treated like garbage, and quit on their 2nd or 3rd day....then at the end of the week managers are wondering why they can't find helpers.
Thats how its supposed to be.
@@mikealext if you want jobs to take forever, yes
@@derusmares9508 you want some weak punk, welders helper that can't handle banter? Blame parents and public school, not those who do the work.
I guess I'm the nice guy in my craft because when I catch a youngster working like that I pull them aside and discuss the economy of movement. You ain't going to make it if you let them ride you hard and put you up wet. You get damn good at what you do and stay union.
@@mikealext no, that's how some asswipes make themselves feel superior. A bit of good natured ribbing, wire stretchers, chain shrinkers and trade hazing is part of the job and it builds comradery. But beating someone down that's already working hard to make it is just ill natured.
It is a blow to my soul when I hear stories like this. With each new generation, the quality of workers decrease. Now, when I was 19/20, I was an idiot. Slow, excuses everywhere, very poor work ethic. But now that I'm 27, I look back and I realize I had "cranialrectumitis" as my family puts it. I'm trying to build a family and a future for them, and that only comes from working hard. Boy am I glad I learned the value of hard work. It still upsets me when I see people who are as lazy as I was, and they refuse to see it, and they refuse to change.
Cranialrectumess, Imma steal that one!
I appreciate your calm demeanor and ability to patiently educate our younger generation. Common sense isn't common if nobody ever sees it.
I grew up in physical jobs. My whole family did them.
I was fired or quit job after job (usually quit) because it was physically exhausting, more than seemed right.
So I started working my brain and getting thinking jobs.
Now I make near 200k working a brain job. ... got good insurance, diagnosed with Polymiositis and 4 immune diseases. My muscles burn lactic acid with little excursion.
I could have counted myself a lower (which I did for years,) or realize my weaknesses and worked in my strengths, which I finally did.
(I'm 5'10 and 2ft across the shoulders... people can't understand why I have Handicap tags).
Being fired is an opportunity for growth and change. I'm thankful to those who helped me decide what path I should follow
Wow, if you guys really would have helped him with his personal issues (home life, money, health, ect) then you guys are hands down the best people to work for. How could you not show your appreciation for that by working hard?
No excuses for the lazy, but Tbh, digging up peoples shit holes and pumping them out, isn’t for everybody 🤷🏻
I've worked jobs where they did not care in the least what is going on with you. Salter construction.
I had a heart attack on the job and not one person other that 3 guys I worked with, even bothered to even see if even lived, much less any get well wishes.
My company is like that. If you no call no show a few days, or your coming in late consistantly, the first call isn't to bitch you out, it's to make sure you're ok. If, like this guy, you say everything is ok, and keep fucking up, then they send you to HR to get bitched at or fired.
@@mikekeltner4291 that's horrible, I'm sorry homie. I'm blessed to work for a company that's like a family. How can you work efficiently with a crew of guys who don't care about each other? That must make for long stressful days.
@@camelholocaust5149 I quit and now I am self employed, I'm making triple what I was making, I can now afford to eat healthier and I have time and money to join a gym. And I can now afford health care. When I was working for salter construction I even told them I couldn't even afford lunch half the time. And they did not care whatsoever. (Nathan Salter)
Worst company I have ever worked for. They threaten ppls jobs all the time. Barely pay enough to live, I've seen paperwork where my work made them thousands of dollars a week but they would only give a .50cent raise. The whole salter family is nothing but greedy money grubbers that have zero respect for any of their hourly employees. Wish I never knew any of them, I even told them I couldn't even afford my medicines, they suggested I get a second job (Nathan salter again)
As a longtime supervisor I've come to take pride in the fact that the few people who enjoyed working for me were the only ones who took my example and ran with it, bettering themselves along the way.
"Don't let the boss outwork you"
I've never heard this before but I think it might be why every boss I've had has given me a handshake and a smile on the way out.
This made me really appreciate my bosses and the patience they have for me. I'm overweight and diabetic but I always gave my job %110. I may not be the quickest but I always show up on time and got my job done even if it meant to stay a extra hour to catch up. My boss acknowledged this and always praised me on doing a great job and didn't mind if I took a 5 minute break here and there because he knew I will get the job done. Just recently I decided I wanted to learn truck because I wanted to show my boss I was really invested in this company and expand my position. When I did truck for the first time it was more labor then I was used to. I was sweating up a river and I embarrassed myself a few times by dropping a few boxes however not once did I stop working or complained. My boss and trainers were backing me up the whole time and were very patient with me. Speed wasn't their concern they wanted to make sure I was comfortable with the job. Although I spent the next few days sore I'm still looking forward towards my next truck schedule.
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That's awesome man. Keep working that hard and get your diet right and you'll reverse those issues in no time
It's easy to back someone who shows they want to be better! Good stuff man!
Keep up the good work man. I hope you are working on loosing the lbs and getting in better shape.
Keep pushing your self the more you push the easier it gets.
I'm a 65yr old woman who got the best advice from my father about work ethics. He told me to always look professional for an interview, even if it's a job digging ditches, and to always give the job my all. I have worked in a men's field for most of my adult life, retired now, and got the promotions and bonuses others were passed over for. Getting employee of the quarter was the best thing I ever got. You were voted on, not only by your peers, but supervisors and department heads. Yes, I was very proud and grateful for my father's wisdom.
Hard work doesn't pay off anymore these days, It's who you know.
@Today is Especially Delicious that doesn't mean be a slacker. Because of this mentality, Nothing is getting done, prices are soaring because of supply and demand, stuff is not being loaded delivered, stocked, etc, because of lazy, spoiled, toddlers that think they should be paid $70k for just walking into a job and breathing. Today's young adults are in for a rude awakening! They can't wipe their on butts, but have so much to complain about!
You’re spot on, across the board.
I’d love to be able to never have to fire anybody, for a alot of reasons.
But we aren’t all suited to do the same work and it doesn’t benefit anyone if we are all struggling to get the job done.
digging is extremely hard work. what was he paying the guy? What was the quota? None of this was given in the video for context. He wants them to slave for a bad wage? Well... that's a conclusion that can be surmised from this video... because we were given no info.
This one hits close to home. I've been working in the trades about 10 years, mostly small crew (like three to five guys) general stuff. Mostly residential. I can do the job, do it well, and be proud of my work. However, I work at a pace that is slower than anyone with the goal of "growing the business" likes. That doesn't mean that I don't work hard, or that I'm taking breaks or goofing off. It just means that while I'm working, I do the job slower than the guy next to me. I have no problem staying late to get the required amount of work done, but bosses I've had are so militant about going as fast as you possibly can, that even if I did stay late (without pay), they would just wonder why I didn't get more done in that time frame. I got into the field out of necessity; I'm probably not cut out for being a tradesman, but its all I got. The only skillset that I have that I can earn a living with.
Stick with it til you can build up a clientele of your own, then go out on your own. If you do good quality work, are honest, show up, and do what you say you'll do, your clients will be happy with you. I always say on my own jobs "right now they may be disappointed that it's going a few days longer than I originally projected, but if it's done well, they'll forget about that as they enjoy the end product in the years ahead.
I've had a number of bosses like that. They point to the all go no show guy and talk about how he's moving all day every day, yet, not ever point out that for all his activity, he rarely accomplishes anything that matters because everything is done half-assed and sloppy from going way too fast.
Fast isn’t always good. The mantra of the team I work in is : do it right, the first time, every time. It saves up on the need to come back and correct things. And that’s a bigger waste of time and money.
I learned more from getting fired than I did from just about any other lesson in a job. It took awhile for me to wrap my head around it, but I realized it was due to my work ethic and attitude, once I got to that point settled in my brain, I became a much better employee.
Not all have the sense to look at themselves when they get a kick in the teeth, kudos for that.
man you gave this dude more chances than you should have. my dad owned a plumbing company and if you couldnt keep up with him, he was done with you, and my dad was a machine and people hated to work with him. i only ever worked with my uncle cuz my dad fired me numerous times from jobs so i finally became a drywaller and then started my own company but i learned alot from they both showed me on how to understand people!!
I wish there were more business owners like yourself that take the time to notice their employees the way you do (for better or worse). I have had so many crappy employers in my labor industry that when I found the diamond in the rough of one who truly saw me and what I brought to work every day in both professionalism and work ethic, I felt such a tremendous amount of loyalty that it should provoke both happiness for that workplace and huge depression for the state of the industry.
Keep making those tough decisions and good on you for holding to your values and integrity. It sets a standard that should be far more common, and makes it a much more appealing line of work for all labor industries. 👍💪👍
I know something like that too, I once went to a major customer to do an order to clean the metal slat ceiling including the lamps built into it on an entire floor. In addition to the three boys who had been part of the team for a long time, there was a newcomer who had applied SELF, i.e. was not sent by the employment office. After about 30 minutes, my right hand came to me, who was supposed to train him and complained that he had to explain everything to the man twice and three times and constantly had to rework it. I asked him to be patient, because no one starts out as an absolute master, everyone has to get used to it first. 90 minutes later the new man came to me and asked if he could go down to the car in the underground car park, he had forgotten something there.... Of course no problem.... What I only noticed later, he didn't ask at all after the car key..... Well, he went to the elevator and was NEVER seen again..... Including the overalls, which cost over 140 German marks because the material is acid-resistant and breathable. I don't know whats going on in the Mind of such People, when i don't was a Genius like Stephen Hawking and i don't have a special professional Education i have not much Choice on the Job Market and when i get a Chance to work in good Team with with above-average pay, (meaning he would have earned more without the appropriate 3-year training as a building cleaner than elsewhere with the appropriate training) then I'll take the chance. I mean i would do anything to grab the Job. As my working my career really started, in the stainless steel works, I started with simple, physically very difficult jobs without any training, but I always gave my best and showed interest in the machines, with the result that I was trained everywhere, but I always gave myself the manuals leave to study at home how to operate the machines optimally, not just the simple steps that your colleague shows you during the training. That impressed the superiors and impressed me that I then got the chance to learn materials testing (sparks and spectral analysis), just learning the different spark patterns that occur when steel is ground (which allows you to see which additives are in the steel and how high the carbon content is ) took almost 16 months. Then the training on the mobile spectrometer and last but not least the final examination in theory and practice. Here, too, I spoke to the laboratory manager after work to find out exactly how the device works. That made the director really happy and we became friends, which helped me a lot to later become self-employed in the IT industry, because he showed me how to disassemble computers, swap components and optimize programs. That was in the late 1980's, early 1990's, before the Intel 80286 was starting to make its way into the private market and the WWW didn't really exist then. But what I want to say with the story, if an opportunity arises, you have to seize it, you can always develop further.
I'm "slow" too, but nothing like what you describe.
I worked in software and system engineering. I worked slow, or methodical, almost all the time. But whether I was writing code, configuring hardware, integrating software with hardware, or documenting or troubleshooting ... working carefully in my case saved a ton. I enjoyed my jobs. I'd often skip breaks or forget lunch. 🙈🙈🙈🙈
But if I had a more physical job, I completely agree with you. Taking excessive breaks and not at least working at your teammate's pace is unacceptable. Maybe the work is too physical for him. That's fine, then the job just isn't a right fit. You seemed to have given him more than a fair shake.
Same. Landscaping was rough for me because I didn’t have the strength. But the boss would yell at me and call me a pussy and all this stuff so I left. Was never treated like that at any other job and I work the same pace.
You can't apply this approach to all jobs but most jobs benefit from working smart not hard
But when the code's all planned out and just needs to be written and QA'd, its the same kind of work. You can either take tons of breaks and it can take forever, or you can work hard, get it done, and go home.
I'm in software too. We had 1 guy who was "blazing fast", each project was BOOM BOOM BOOM, amazing..
Then 1 year down the line, I had to come across and mass upgrade all our projects to the latest and greatest.. I was going through them at a normal pace, until 1 absolutely destroyed me, it was so out of spec, it was unreal. Oh, okay.. eventually fixed it, moved on, a few more get updated, ahdn the another comes along and destroys me.. this cycle continues, but I get reprimanded for taking too long. Even though I am getting faster and faster with the "normal ones" because I have developed systems, these Odd ones just ruin it all. eventually I am reprimanded a 2nd time.. This time I MAKE my managers look into these odd projects, they agree they are not right.. I start putting them to the side. I'll deal with them later.. Yeah, it's "off schedule, but I am down to 1 lifeline left, I'm damned if I do, damned if I dont"..
And then it happens, what happened to project w, x, y, z, why were they don't done.. I told them, they are all dodgy ones.. They eventually look up all the ones I have called odd, and all the ones I missed... They were ALL that single developers.. Needless to say I had my reprimands removed, and he had quite a talking too.
So much for "ME" being slow.. but him being "quick" wasn't great either..
@@ColinRichardson who the fuck approved his code tho? They would need reprimanded too.
I live with a spinal cord injury and have been in construction most of my life since Highschool. I have a heavy limp in my right leg and it's always amazed me when I work circles around other guys in the crew.
Firewood season is always fun when I bring guys on and they can't keep up. I'm a little guy 112 pounds and crippled.
We are working with the county to install our own septic so I've been watching your vids to learn some stuff.
Thanks for the informative content! Best of luck with your business even though this is a year out since your vids.
Holy god, are you 5’2 or something?? 112lbs????
I feel bad you can't have a comfortable life after such a terrible injury, and bragging about working harder than able-bodied people just makes it more sad. like my man, if for some reason you couldn't keep up the pace they'd replace you in a heartbeat.
@@anarchium_wellsquest who says my life isn't comfortable? Yeah I'm totally bragging about having a broken spine 🤣 I make sure everybody knows 😂
@@SoreTv 5'4” to be exact lmao
@@HalfPaceOutdoors you literally bragged about working harder than able-bodied people out of sheer need. people like us should be supported so we DONT have to destroy our bodies like cattle. and really all people
You’re the kind of person I wish I would have met and even worked for when I lived in NC for a short time. You do everything you can to make the job the best possible experience it can be for everyone involved. You deserve all the best life has to offer
As an entrepreneur, I enjoy hearing you talk about these difficult things. Feels good to know someone else has the same challenges. Thanks for sharing 😎👍🏼
Yes, in challenging moments, as I move my business to another model, I watch your videos. You inspire me. I look up to you as a role model. Thank you 🙏🏻
im 7 moths into my job. im not going to lie, im getting lazy at work.
why?
im damn pissed.
for 2 months, i have been working solo. im fully expected to do two peoples jobs.
stocking, customers, cleaning, photo development, inventory management.
i have already told my manager last week, something needs to change soon or im putting my 2 weeks in. im done doing two jobs for barely more then minimum wage
TLDR
you are awesome James, you actually care about your employees. some (most) companies/corporations dont.
I tried to work a newspaper route, since I had months before getting back to work. The manager happily decided to give me two routes and expected me to learn both of them in one night. He didn't even give me the app for the route. One of the routes Looked like I would be running someone else's.
Edit: I'm about to get back into a trucking position very soon.
In my opinion I think jobs end up like a new pair of boots, at first they're awesome, then they're fine, then they become worn down and rugged, then to top it off they're tearing at the seams and about to buckle.
I work at a gas station, and for the first few months it was fine until I got talking to some of the coworkers. Apparently we're missing 3 more people to be considered truly full staffed. Our owner is cheap, so cheap labor is a must. The bare minimum employees to maximum efficiency is a must. So the result is 9 day work weeks at full time, crappy rigged payroll, minimum wage, enough work to keep 4 employees occupied, zero overtime whatsoever, etc.
I'm fed up with it, I've just stopped caring. Normally I'm not a lazy person, I have good work ethic and haven't missed a day of work. Always show up on time, etc. But when you're worked to the bone for minimum wage, and the boss man ain't even seeing your work or telling you you're doing good I'm just done.
Top it off, night and graveyard shifts don't do their jobs and leave it for me because "I'm the one that does it."
Nah fam. I honestly don't care if I get fired at this point, time to get a new pair of boots.
Started my own business a couple years back. Just found you. Your a big inspiration. Keep it up.
As a fellow construction company owner I can attest that not everyone can handle labor heavy jobs. You have to get those that font want to work out as they make more work for everyone else. I was raised and brought up with a many handle makes light work mentality and always lead by example but won’t tolerate laziness. Slow work can be explained and OK based on conditions but laziness is different than just slow it’s working inequitably and below what you’re capable of.
My family was so lucky when we bought our homestead as the repair guy whose worked on this property for years did all the maintance/repairs and he was qualified, licensed, bonded, and injured! Now we KNOW we have a guy scheduled to do yearly septic maintance and anything else that comes up on a iron clad lock. The man is a gem, works extremely hard, very nice and the price is very fair.
So glad you posted this explanation. Keeping people in a job where they are clearly not a fit can do so much damage to the working environment. Really impressed by the steps you took to give this person an opportunity.
I’m in watching and only 2 and a half minutes into your video and I would have loved to be employed by a gentleman like you in my life. I also am disabled and I have never used my disability to apply for benefits or to refuse work. I have only 35 % of my heart function since I was a child, weighed 135 pounds till I retired . I am now clearing a small forest on my sister’s property about 2 acres. Gosh people, take pride in what you do, life rewards you for it.❤❤❤
Just proves that that old song was right.... "If your gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough" 😅🤣😂
He wanted the pay without doing the actual work. People like him irritate me . You handled that pretty good
It’s the self entitled generation. That’s also why there are too many wannabe businessmen, they are too scared of real work.
That might be the problem the pay he has not mentioned what he pays his guys and everybody knows you get what you pay for plain and simple
@@cliffordmanning1306 the man agreed to a certain pay for a certain job, and he couldn't do the job for the agreed pay. Sounds like a worthless employee to me
You can only speak if you have work like that before if not STFU
@@justinmc415 The job may have not been represented properly. Point being, we don't have the context to make judgements and we're hearing the story from one side. Anything we say is worthless conjecture. Granted, I'd imagine this dude was just lazy, but there's a reason that contracts can be found unconscionable. Anything less than a fair day's work for a fair day's pay is immoral, agreements be damned.
Hey James I really want to say I appreciate you guys as people, most jobs I've been on, if someone isn't working well, and they're not doing well, personal issues and seeing if something's going on in their personal life that can be fixed with financial help, therapy, a place to stay, etc. That's the last thing most Businesses think about. I really appreciate you guys helping your employees and giving people genuine chances. You seem like a great man to work for and your employees look genuinely happy, even in videos where you give them shit for mistakes!
I'm belatedly catching up on your stuff but thank you for ruling out medical or personal stuff and also giving a fair shot seeing directly for yourself. My best boss ever did that when I was going through extremely heavy stuff on both fronts - multiple on each front. And I was trying to push through it and didn't realize how bad/apparent it was until he laid it out and asked if something was going on he didn't know. Yep. Offered help, said he didn't need details but I could share if I wanted, worked with me to get back on track and I've worked my ass off since. He actually left a few years later and I picked up half his job for a year until they hired a new department head, that's how much bounced back from edge of being fired.
And some folks that's not the case and I've been the inspector equivalent and it sucks, but that's how it goes. Work for a nonprofit and we spend our money wisely, if we're paying you to work less than baseline that's basically throwing out money our donors and funders give us trusting us. Nah.
Aaaand I've been on the flipside where a lower level supervisor was trying to throw me under the bus for their laziness and mismanagement, and the big boss just took their word. Did the same to a coworker before me and fired him on supervisor word alone - and I knew from working with them for years at a previous job that was nonsense. One of the hardest working most detail oriented people I've ever known. But I got a unsolicited job offer hours after I was also put under review for bullshit that was really the supervisor's cumulative f--k ups and immediately took it. Heard they did the same thing to other folks after I left. Anyway they're gone now, entire office, great job overpaid lazy supervisor and boss who couldn't be bothered to wonder "hey weird how my supervisors keep telling me it's the workers who suck, maybe there's a pattern and I'm firing (or attempting to fire) the wrong people". Good riddance.
It's nice that you explain all of this, and it's nice you do all you can to help an employee before they cause their own demise. Yes, lack of productivity does make it harder for everyone else.
Well handled telling this story with support / retraining context. I find myself often reminding business owners that hiring and timely firing is ultimately their job for the good of the business and working environment-good to hear it here too!
Too much pride can lead to denial and burnout easily. I see too many well-intentioned workers hit burnout then start sandbagging rather than admit they were less fit to start than they appeared. There’s that joke about the priest who falls out of a boat, and rejects 3 rescue attempts, proclaiming his faith god would save him. At the pearly gates, the priest asks why god didn’t save him-the answer was “I tried to save you 3 times!”
Hi James, I greatly admire how much you treat your employees with care and empathy. You most certainly go above and beyond to treat the people at your company as humans. It's awesome that you asked him if he's going through a rough patch in life. And that you're willing to allocate company resources any way you can to help him. I wish I could work for you.
I applaud you sir. That is some very fair management.
the best advice I got before the first day of my first job, was from my grandfather. He told me never to be idle, “pick up a broom if you find yourself sitting still”.
It's well known, no matter what profession, if you're working with the boss, you better be busting your ass 110%effort
A game, all day long.
My boss hired me to do a specict job I give 110percent while I do that job. When I work with my boss directly it is always something weird random and out of the scope of work I was hired for.. I knew I was going to have to do other things but give 110 percent for stuff that is out of my normal job description no thnk you. I also will not break my body just because that's how he works.
Yeah and when i did that doing the job of 4 people it permenently fucked me up for the rest of my life.
@@dustinhotchkiss5504 yup. Had a employee do something they weren’t trained for because the boss asked and they started a fire inside his work station last week haha. Didn’t get payed extra for it or anything either.
"Never let the boss outwork you." Amen to that Sir. Amen to that.
If you're slow, then you had best look like you are really, truly working at the job!
The boss makes $250K after taxes, and I make $38K before. He had better be outworking everyone.
tcm has never started a business, I see. 🤦🏻♂️
@@vincedibona4687Actually, I've been running a successful one since 2020, when I started during one of the worst times in modern history to try and start a business.
Thanks for playing. 😁
I am a industrial/ commercial HVACR service tech.When I started out 31+ years ago .I carried the tools set up the ladders and lugged the equipment and ran for stuff .The Journeyman carried the knowledge and expertise schooled me in the trade so that I could advance to being a journeyman.Most of the young guys today are scared to break a sweat do any labor ( it is called skilled labor for a reason ) and want to play on their phones all day and get paid .I can’t tell you how many young guys I have kicked off my job-site for not wanting to work and or learn who soon after got shit canned .What’s worse I am a far easier and help them lug the stuff around and take it next level in training them which is not how it used to be when I came up .
I’ve watched this video before and now I’m watching it again. I wish more bosses were like you and I think it’s awesome you did everything you could to get to the bottom of why the job wasn’t getting done instead of just giving up and moving on to another candidate. 💪🏾
I work for a landscape company and we have been struggling for 2 years to find a new helper. Finally my boss hired a 65 year old local retiree, he outworks every young kid we tried in 2 years. Too many people just don't want to or know how to work hard!
Working hard doesn't pay off. Work hard if you want, but it's not a moral failure to not get injured while overworking yourself
How much where they paying? Was it worth killing yourself for?
@@SpinningSideKick9000 spoken like someone who's never worked a hard day in his live.
@@Zach-ju5vi Spoken from someone who started roofing in the south when I was 14 and after 10 years learned that hard work doesn't pay off
@@SpinningSideKick9000 I guess not everyone is cut out for it.
I used to work in construction, and I totally get this. Is was clearly laziness.
On the other hand though, I’ve also been in situations where I was yelled at for working slow. The thing was though, was that they were expecting me to carry WAY more than I was physically capable. They wanted me to carry three plywood boards which were 8’x10’ at least. I carried two at a time, as I couldn’t lift three.
But the guy who cut the tenant’s power connection instead of the drywall? (And somehow didn’t die) Totally fine.
I should also point out that other sites I’d worked on for other companies (it was via a temp agency) would always praise me for my hard work. I’d have even gotten a permanent job offer from one of the last places I’d worked, if I hadn’t told my boss I was moving out of state.
Man that guy had so many chances not to get fired I don't know of any company that would go and ask if there's anything going on in your life
Man, I love your channel. I work manual labor at an industrial linen washing facility, and i work in the most physically demanding department.
When i first started, i was out of shape, chunky, and pretty slow with little stamina. Normally I've always been fit, but i did let myself go lol.
Anywho, my two current supervisors lead me to achieve greatness. One whom taught me the basic knowledge of the job, and let me learn hands on, and then my evening supervisor, my favorite lol, let the fire under my ass that i really needed. His name is Noah. An older guy, and man, he put me through the ringer haha. He was with me every step of the way, and once i was out perorming him on a regular, he gave those props. I had never gelt so good in my life.
Because of what they did for me, they have my undying loyalty.
I agree with everything! But I must say, paying your inspectors based on commission doesn’t seem very ethical to me. My problem with it is that the inspectors are incentivized to find problems that may not actually be an issue, it’s not in the best interest of the customer
It depends in the person. I worked on commission for years and I didn't look for extra things to charge. I was straight and to point. My reputation is important to me and the customer referrals that I got more than I can keep up with and that made up than being a scumbag.
Commission doesn't incentivize finding problems that aren't problems. Any sort of bonus or incentive structure can do that - for short sighted people. But the thing of that is it costs a currency no company can afford to lose - their reputation, and repeat business.
People with a long term view *will* care about that reputation - and even if the employee doesn't, the boss *will* and that sort of greed will (or should) get rooted out *before* it costs the company money. Not after.
if commission detracts from their professionalism, then yes, i would agree. I am a biz owner, i work strictly on a commission.
130lbs? You definitely have a much bigger presence the way you speak and carry yourself. Thank you for sharing real experiences that are eye openers. Definitely learning and applying your values in my daily life. Thanks! 🙌
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 Like when the auto mechanic charged me $800 to lie to me and say they replaced a part. I ended up having to go and get it fixed again somewhere else. I make sure everyone I know, knows to avoid that place. I hope they go bankrupt and I do my part to help them go bankrupt every chance I get for stealing 2 weeks of my life from me.
I’ve typically worked physically demanding jobs with men my whole life and I can relate to this frustration all too well! You would think a man wouldn’t want a female coworker to out work him. That would be really embarrassing to me. There are some people that are just straight up lazy and really don’t care. I take pride in my work ethic and I can’t understand why someone wouldn’t. 🤦🏼♀️
Another tattooed broad that think she's a man
There's honor in taking pride in your work.
Acting like the job's beneath you actually means you're not good enough for the job.
People that are lazy are laughing at you inside. To them, you're the fool. You can't fix that attitude with in-work training. Agreed, very frustrating people to work with.
Enough yacking in the comment section, and back to digging that hole Jenkins!
In my opinion u seem like a good boss, and person to work for a lil hard sometimes but also have compassion and care about your employees that's awesome
I appreciate you making these videos detailing concepts related to work ethic, attitude, and giving real world examples with a constructive criticism on how a situation could be approached and improved upon. I don't want to disparage the US public school system but I wish that work and career skills were repeated and reinforced more regularly than I experienced attending public highschool in California. They did try to prepare us with practicing interviews etc but I feel that the real world examples of positive work ethic vs employees who are only with the company for a short time and why they don't fit long term is at least equally as valuable a learning experience as practicing mock job interviews as part of your sophomore English class. And I do also realize that California is something like 48th in the nation as far as state public school quality, but I still appreciate your anecdotes and lessons nonetheless.
Always love hearing about these lazy ass dudes givin every chance they can to get better while I’m over here, a welder that got fired because they had me reorganize their storage room and sweep up metal dust and got fired for being “unmotivated”
Keep in mind I worked there for 2 weeks and they never let me touch a welder. The thing I was trained to do
sounds like Lippert
It might just be your communication style / skills. Staying humble and upbeat even when you don't want to goes a long way.
@@sethdistler5332 I got a job at a place called Lippert Components, had no experience in welding whatsoever. They hired me, taught me how to read blueprints for the chassis, taught me how to weld and use a plasma cutter and all that, but while we were being taught, there were some menial jobs that needed to be done.
One of them was a saw that they used to cut the steel beams, it was being moved and painted yellow and so was the floor around it. The trainees were told to get mineral spirits and get as much paint removed as we could.
I did what I was told. One of the other guys said "this is BS, I wanted to work here to weld, not to be a b*tch" and was promptly fired.
I went on to increase my pay by 40% before overtime and worked there for a few years. Not sure what the other dude did
I got trained in a highly desirable job for free, all for doing dumb crap. And got paid good to do it.
Sounds like you are the problem.
Maybe feel them out for a month or so and communicate your abilities to them instead of being mad because they gave you, the new guy, the duties of the new guy.
@@TheDogDad the duties of the new guy?
people like you are the problem
The boss at my work, which granted is food service, has been with the company 10 years and outworks everybody else combined including the owners. Other managers have told her that, if she runs out of the steamers, it's because the people pulling the meat out of the steamers are too slow. She replied to him, "No, it means I'm rocking it! I can fill every streamer in under a minute." And she's right, I have seen her do it on multiple occasions in the year and a half that I have worked for her. She is the queen of speed and I'm one of only two setup people who can try to keep pace with her, and the other one is deaf but has been here as long as she has and, because of her disability, that's the only job she can do other than prep.
Earlier today, when I arrived, we were extremely busy. We had 4 people pulling meat out of steamers, and all of them were standing around doing nothing while every steamer is full because the setup guy is doing one at a time and at a very slow pace. Now, I don't like kicking people out of their jobs, even if they're getting killed and I know I can fix it. The way I see it, I'm not a manager, I'm a fellow employee, and they can and have every right to get mad at me for stealing their station and I have seen people start yelling swear words at each other in front of customers and threaten to kick each other's asses. I don't want anything to do with that, so I just don't try and take other people's spots. So I'm just kinda standing there waiting for the boss to make the call. She does and we're caught up in 10 minutes because not only do I work faster than him, I also make two sandwiches at a time.
damn, TWO sandwiches??? capitalism really is bringing out the best in us huh?
I am a retired concrete flatworker /foreman. You are 100% correct when you say that not everybody is made for manual labor. And one of the best thing I ever heard from my boss was a new hire, first day and it was a day when concrete hit the ground on a pretty good size parking lot and the concrete was late on every load so it was haul ass because they were hot loads of mud. So the boss always shows up on big pours and this kid kept asking for a break and the boss finally looked at him and said "Ya' got a break when you were hired, now get you ass back to work!!! I will never forget that one.
i like that you try to figure out if there's anything you can help with.
Amen brother "don't let the boss out work you" I work for a tree company and my crew a motto is "work hard or stay home"
Yea, if you don't outwork the boss, you suck..
@@SLOCLMBR even if you suck at what you're doing, make sure the boss knows you're putting in the effort. Its okay to be bad at a job for a bit. It is not okay to be bad and lazy.
The only kind of crew I want to be on.
I probably won't work as hard as the Boss or owner. I absolutely 100% pull my weight. But a manager or owner can't expect a regular employee, to work as hard, or harder than them. Because you don't get the same financial compensation. You are paid less than your boss and owner. You are not paid to out work, or out care them.
@@richardpuckett8127 when it comes to tree work usually the boss is 50+ years old while usually you are 18-25 years old. While your boss yes has more stuff on his plate like meetings and payroll. If he’s out there doing physical work such as trimming for clearance for the power company, you better have 4 set ups by the time he comes out after his meeting in the morning and if he’s out helping drag brush to the chipper you better be dragging 3 good piles to his 1, and if it comes to climbing you better be in your 2nd tree before he thinks about getting his gear on. So where the motto “work hard or stay home” comes in we get paid by units not hours.
I only just discovered your stuff, and I just wanted to say that you've been a big inspiration for me being a better worker and a better adult
Now I've never had the pleasure of firing a loser, but to me people act like this because of modern HR nonsense and labor laws. I did landscaping grunt work for a guy's small business when I was 18-22 years old. Never had a problem with my boss. The only thing I remember him complaining about was I forgot my wallet multiple times requiring him to buy me lunch. If I acted like this employee I would have been fired after maybe 2 days max of bullshit. He has multiple customer houses to make progress on and deadlines. He would tell me finding reliable people was difficult. Not that they would do a bad job, but that they would call out of doing any work at all usually.
Man u handled this so perfect u gave him time n time again I do septic work my self guy I work for is awesome I try to keep him out of the hole as much as possible n absolutely I was taught if u ain't making the boss/company ur not needed
Lol, you had multiple inspectors assess him, you gave remedial training, you had the office staff council him, you directly observed him
That is NOT firing “on the spot”. That is considered, and deliberate, with attempts at rehabilitation. It is not “on the spot”
Fair point....guess I was referring to my spot...point taken
@@JamesButlerWellAndSepticLife it's not sensational but is good business practice, like you said you don't want to fire people it causes other problems.
I can't believe I'm addicted to your channel, you sound like a great boss
I had remedial training like 3 years into the job for like 1 item of 100 item list and I greatly improved from it my bosses all care about me and are amazing
@@plangelierwot Doesn't he not really sounding like a great boss but one that you wish you had on the same ethics really. Like it is a job I could never do because of the smell. But yeah like if other managers, bosses and owners took notes and lessons how to operate from him. Than it would be alot better for people.
@@davidscott9097 And they would see their employee turn over drop drastically, while their overall production rose. There is no substitute for motivation, and feeling respected goes a long way to maintaining moral, which directly affects motivation.
I believe all people in the world of work should internalize and duplicate James’s work ethic and humanity. I love this guy!
James. I respect your hustle so much. it must be hard to run your own business when you're dealing with employees and payroll and whatnot. I run a computer repair business--by myself. can't imagine dealing with all the jerk offs that you gotta deal with man. I just deal with crappy customers and that's it.
Thanks for sharing--this advice seems obvious to some people, but others are raised differently or not socially aware to see the signs of failure. You are correct, everyone on the boat needs to pull its weight, or the boat will slow down or sink when it is not profitable and efficient.
Dude I’d work for ya anytime sounds like you do everything you can to help your employees keep it up
seems like a dush to me
@@joellemus8279 *douche?
@@joellemus8279 entitled baby.
Wonder what he's paying and if it's worth all his drama
and have all my workplace drama televised for the youtube updoots? Miss me with that. Bosses who yap on the phone and internet like teenage girls are the worst. Bet this guy would unironically ask me why I dont have a Facebook account during a job interview.
I'm a lazy bastard, but I learned myself the faster a do a job the quick I can take a short break and get back at.
I've always heard that if you give the laziest guy the hardest job you'll soon know the easiest way to do that job.
I’m lazy as well, there are books I want to read or games I want to play. I work as Internal Helpdesk for a company. I learned early on if I do my work fast, efficiently, and correctly I can get back to dicking around quickly. I let everybody know who asks me how I do so well, even my boss. I put in maximum effort to get back to being lazy
Dude I bust balls for like 45 min take a break best way to work. My boss asked me if I was trying to work myself out of a job one day.
I did that in my teens. I was a packaging supervisor. My boss saw me standing around for 5 minutes every hour n called me lazy. When I change positions in the company they had to get 2 people to do my job lol
@@ChalkyHonky I Busted my butt at a factory checking on all the settings making sure everything was running well and safe, and all tasks were completed, running around ragged for like 2 and a half hours so I could take a short break to get off my feet, and I clocked it and not 2 min my boss came over and was yelling at me when I was ahead of scheduled, and that was when i was like F*** this and this job. They can get someone else who I KNOW would now have put in as much effort or done as well as I did. I was commended by several of the higher staff in the company for being a hard worker, but that among other things was the final straw. Which is really I would rather be paid for the job or work done and not by the hour because I could decide when I needed a break, if my feet are killing me then fine don't pay me, but it's demotivating when you are doing the jobs of two people and then getting yelled at for being lazy. F*** that boss. I still hear they haven't been able to fill the position I left half a year ago.
Not only are they causing trouble for the place their working for… they’re holding up a job for someone that might appreciate it.
I like your business videos. You seem like a fair business owner. Much success to you and all.
I appreciate your work ethic and how you don't ask an employee to do something you yourself aren't prepared to show them (when needed) how to properly and safely perform the tasks as expected. If I lived nearby I would apply gladly to work for you.
I've worked as a manager and a business owner, and I've hd to fire people before too. It's never the first option and it's never easy, but I've never had an time when it wasn't 100% self inflicted. Worst one I had to do was fire a guy for attendance- he mad missed almost 3 weeks of work time in the last year, for various reasons, some valid, some not. The final straw was him calling in to take care of a "family emergency"- this happened a LOT with this guy. He fought me and HR over the issue for literal months. I get it if you have a legit emergency, but when you ALSO call out because your too tired to work after a weekend vacation (one of his given reasons) then you are shooting yourself ln the foot wasting time off that you NEED to use when there is a real emergency. In a similar vain, I work for a public utility company and I've heard every sob story under the sun to try and get someone's utilities restores- an all time favorrite is "I have a sick kid/grandparent/other seriously ill person" and need it resorted ASAP. I'll work with someone to help them out, but when I look at your account and you haven't paid a single dime in over a year, how do you expect me to care about your family issues when you obviously do nto care yourself?
TLDR_ don't waste your time and money on stupid stuff and expect someone else to care about the time and effort you have wasted screwing yourself over.
Been having a friend's teen son apprentice (general trades) with me. Seriously impressed with the work ethic, knew to get right on stuff very little prompting.
😢 hope you aren’t suffering! Prayers for you James! Such A nice person and great boss!!
This is why we should have never removed P.E. Requirements from public education.
I’ve worked in residential construction since 2003, and the youngest workers can’t keep up with a 50 year old woman.
Back when I was running a department in a glass factory, there was a 60 year old guy that out worked 20 year olds. I would tell those kids that I would be embarrassed if a 60 year old was out working me.
I've done that and it's surprising that I can do that but facts don't lie
I've been the old man on the job for many years (I'm 65). The young guys say "Let the old man do it."
im the 60 year old your talking about im doing it and have been for the past 10 years its realy disheartening to see what these young guys are like now days i cant wait ---24 more months and im gone lettem bankrupt the company ..............
@@phlodel them kids were raised by pieces of crap. I would get smacked in the head at ten years old If I didnt pick up the shovel or any hard work and let an older employee do it! Was a great life lesson hard work pays off
@@ChalkyHonky It's pretty pervasive. I was working repairing an oil rig. we had to lift a very heavy piece of pipe into position. One of my co workers observed "Every man down here preparing to lift is over 40. Every man up there with a bolt in his hand is in his 20s. What's wrong with this picture?" The young guys refused to lift.
How can you not love this guys videos? He gets it! Common sense and caring approach is refreshing
I'm always doing my best to not let anyone out work me. I'm 51 and the 20 something's can't even compete with my giddy up!
God damn, it's nice to see there are still some small business owners that take pride in what they do and don't just try and survive "the machine" of bullshit they have to go through. You'd probably never gonna see this swat cop comment, but CZcams has been on fire promoting your stuff; because your mentality matches the Sergeants that I love to work for. Good for you, great on you and your employees, and god bless the hard working people you have just doing the American dream!
I work for a shipping company supervising people loading packages into trailers. I tell people, if I'm handling more boxes than you, you need to work harder or find someplace else to work. AND, I also tell them I'm not asking them to bust their ass 100% of the time, that's not working effectively, kick ass when required and take breaks when able!
you do realize others aren't going to be able to keep up with you on the fly right at the start. Keep in mind everyone is different, they excel in different ways. Heck, they might help make things go faster and quicker if you're open to their ideas.
But it doesn't sound like it with the attic you just expressed above.
I've had 3 jobs I wasn't physically capable of doing when I started. One required a lot of arm strength. I hit the gym doing back and upper body. Two required a lot of shoveling. It took me two months to get to the point it was easy. Number three, after 5 months I was still struggling badly. I went to my boss and had a chat. He loved me as an employee but we agreed that if I couldn't do it physically it was best we part ways. My health had finally caught up with me. A couple of months later I was in a coma sooooo yeah, good call.
Jesus Christ, stay out of that industry whatever it was.
@@jegr3398 🤣
Nah, you just lazy?!!??
(This sarcasm.)
I hate when people say there are tons of jobs out there, yes, there are tons of jobs out there, but a lot of jobs as you said, some people cannot do, or dont think the risk of the job over their health is worth it, and a lot of jobs, companies treat employees poorly, or are outsourcing to other countries, further lowering the amount of jobs people can do here.
Most people don't understand that people's bodies will begin to break down long before they realize they're not capable anymore. My first thought was that dude didn't realize that he had a heart problem. I ended up in a coma from overwork myself (14 hour days, no exercise) and that's not the way you wanna find out or figure out or be made to change from where you are and how you are operating at work.
It sounds like you gave this person due process. You inquired regarding personal/medical issues that could have affected his work. You counselled him regarding his performance and provided additional training. You became involved personally to observe and verify first hand the issues that had been reported. The ball was in this guy's court and it appears that he dropped it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for trying your best to impart words of wisdom to mankind. People need help and you are sincerely trying to give your best to them. God bless you.