REVIEW Ys 8 Lacramosa of Dana (PS4)
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- My second ever Ys game.... and Falcom game for that matter. I ... uh... lets just say I miss Memories of Celceta.
" Ys returns with a brand new adventure for the first time in 8 years! Adol awakens shipwrecked and stranded on a cursed island. There, he and the other shipwrecked passengers he rescues form a village to challenge fearsome beasts and mysterious ruins on the isolated island. Amidst this, Adol begins to dream of a mysterious blue-haired maiden living in an unknown world. Join Adol as he unravels the riddle of the cursed Isle and the blue-haired maiden Dana in Ys VIII: Lachrymose of Dana! "
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good lord, now youre complaining about having to control the camera? i havent seen a single review from you in which you didnt criticize the game cause a. you didnt care enough to get good or b. you werent good at it.
and how are you ever going to play any modern game where controlling the camera is mandatory is beyond me.
@@Zyzzyyx I...think the camera controls are bad. Controlling the camera =/= bad. I have gotten good at games? Do you only watch select videos? Orrr are you just here to complain? What's good homie?
@@PelvicGaming how dare you. unsubscribed. i kid, i was never subscribed.
@@neil9815 Thank you! You are not the type of people I want in my audience. Have a blessed day~
*Pelvic warns me of a spoiler*
Me: How bad could it be?
*Proceeds to listen*
I'mma pretend I didn't hear all that.
I always appreciate an honest review. While I thoroughly enjoyed Y's 8, I hear your "things I don't need" loud and clear. Things I personally don't need?: Game reviews to perfectly align with how I feel.
facts she opened my eyes with the "things i dont need" section. as i grow older the more i want story and lore haha.
You might know this already, but the style of Ys VIII and Celceta is derived from Ys Seven, which was quite a departure from the original formula. To experience Ys as it was from its beginning in 1987 to the release of Ys Seven in 2009, you should play the games from Ys 1 and 2 up until Ys 6, including Origins. That might sound like a lot, but these are short games you finish in about 10 hours.
Yea, NPCs have always been a big part of Falcom games. Even Ys 1 and 2, every NPC had a unique name, which was highly unusual for its time.
This is my first ys game that being said I am probably gonna get memories of celecetia but I agree with you on camera issue and the NPC padding. Like always a great review
Love your review Style Lady Pelvic. I enjoy the reviews :D
Thank you very much!!
Yeah, the story in Ys games usually aren’t too strong haha. Since you seemed to enjoy Memories of Celceta much more than this one though, I would still recommend Ys Seven. It’s kinda like the precursor to it in a way
Ys Seven... looks like utter garbage. I can't believe I actually paid money for that steaming pile.
Ys has good story elements, but you have to play them all in release order to fully get everything because they've all got overarching threads and callbacks
Super interesting review. Googling online reveales that Celceta is generally the least favored game and Lacrimosa is the most favored.
Currently playing through Celceta and, though I think overall I've enjoyed Seven more, still excited to beat it and start Lacrimosa to see what all the hubuh is about.
i thought the atmosphere / exploration/ and music all elevated this to a really great game. a lot of the side stuff you didn't like i also thought contributed to the deserted island feel. i thought the slower story development in the first part of the game made it more mysterious and added to the need to explore. i thought you would dig this one. haha. ah well. like your channel and reviews.
It's always interesting hearing how people experience the same game! Things I found slow and boring you found mysterious (and there is nothing wrong with that)!
Even so, I appreciate the kind words and you still sticking around!
Same.. the slow pace made me thing there was a grand secret behind the existence of the island.. and it sure was.
Its weird. In the first 4-5 hours, i was bored out of my fucking SKULL and I HATED the setting, atmosphere and just the entire idea of the fuckin island and finding castaways just made me want to take an impact drill to my eye socket. So i dropped it. I quit playing for a few months, but i was craving Ys so i replayed some of the Ys games i have. Then, i finally just said fuckitt and got IX. I had waiting to beat VIII, but i couldnt get into VIII so fuckit. I loved IX it clicked immediately for me and I’m probably bout 10 hours in. Well at some point, i booted VIII back up and now im further in that game than i am in IX. I have no idea why, but it just…clicked. And i fucking love it, so i dont know .
You're an entertaining CZcamsr
Love your passion and opinions Definitely makes you stand out.
Keep up the videos!
Pelvic reminds me of old school youtube if that makes any sense
Ys8 was my first and currently only experience with the series and you perfectly described how I felt about it. Based on how much more you liked Memories of Celcitica, I'll probably give that a shot if I wanna give the series
So I stumbled upon your channel around the time you uploaded this video, and I didn't watch it because I hadn't played the game yet. It's not five months later, I finished it a few days ago and I'm glad I can watch your review!!
I mostly agree with your points, although I seem to have liked it more than you despite feeling the same about the slow beginning - for me, after the end of chapter 2, it was a ride to the finish that kept on getting more and more hype
This was my first Ys game and while I am normally impatient, I enjoyed the slow burn. Mainly I loved the music and combat. Plus each new zone was unique and intimidating. I’ll never forget the Trex in the mist lol
I'd suggest playing Ys 1&2 Chronicles before playing Origin, they're short with no fluffy nonsense and the knowledge of the adventure should greatly enhance connection with the characters in Origin.
Oh fuck yeah... You went from your first Ys game, straight into another one?! That is awesome. Glad you are digging the series, despite your misgivings. I Can't wait for IX, personally. Very awesome and thorough review!!! Get to Ys Origins, Ys V and Ys Oath of Felghana, if you liked the combat in Celceta.
Actually on the whole FF10 thing its confirmed that Tidus, Jecht and their Zanarkand aren't really dreams, they're real. Yu Devon created them using the Fayth. It's just they they call them a "dream" to sound very flowery.
My favourite action RPG of all time, go play it. Actually, as someone who's played the whole series, go play everything, you're missing out.
A couple of points tho:
- I will commend you for correctly pronouncing Adol's name correctly, as opposed to many others who say Ay-dol.
- I also agree on the epilogue bit, it's so badly executed, lol (though the credits sequence gets me feelsy everytime). But hey, I still prefer it over Celceta's non-existent ending, ngl.
- Just incase you didn't know, Celceta's Flash Moves and Guards have a way more forigiving time window.
- "Celceta had a fixed camera where you could see everything on-screen" - Try fighting the super boss (the guardian of the forest thing) and then try saying that, lol. Also in regards to the camera, I noticed you were using lock-on a lot when talking about it, sometimes it works much better without doing that.
- And finally the OST. Believe it or not, the OST from this game is actually my favourite in all of gaming, which is saying a lot. So yeah, at least go listen to the tunes.
the only game for me that had better ost was Ys 1 "nostalgia effect lol" and the opening of Ys 2 the definition of epic man
I just finished Memories of Celceta and felt so betrayed by the non-ending. I watched the screen transition to Adol's journal and thought "there is no way they wouldn't tell me what the characters went on to do after the ending, right?" And then they literally did just that. One of the laziest endings I've ever experienced for a game.
This is a game I honestly really liked but lost drive to complete. I'm near the end of the game (in chapter 6 I think?) and while it's a really good game that I had fun with, I just feel like I had no desire to go back to it cuz I felt like I already played enough of it. Watching this review definitely revived my interest in finishing it. I skipped the spoiler spot but watching this made me remember how interested I am in seeing the how the game ends and if the castaways really do make it back home :)
I always wondered where the pelvic part of your channel came from. Nice review.
Nice review I'm thinking about picking up the game so this was nice to know about the details
So some context: I played Ys8 in August and it reminded me that I actually really like this series and I was missing a bunch, so I went back to Ys1+2 and played through the whole series, finishing Seven just this past week. I definitely agree with some of what you're saying, but I found 8 to be better than Celceta in every way. I think the exploration loop is better because of how it ties so directly into growing Castaway Village, and 9 may change this but for now I think 8 has the best music in the series followed by Seven. I really liked the cast of characters so much more in 8, and you barely even get to see Dogi in Celceta all. But if you liked Celceta better then 8 then you'd probably really love Seven which plays nearly identically, just with less polygons and more straightforward exploration and, shockingly, no shipwreck or falling overboard or memory loss of any sort - a series first.
I'm definitely with you on Ys 10 though. Given how many girls seem to want to throw themselves at Adol throughout the series he's only got eyes for his bara bestie Dogi, clearly.
Adol is married to adventure
My first Ys was Ys Seven on PSP, followed by Celceta and Ys 8. Ys 8 is my personal favourite of the three, but your review made perfect sense to me. I enjoyed every aspect of the game so much I honestly forgot about that awful ending, but I can completely understand the ending leaving a bad taste in your mouth if you weren't into the game leading up to it.
You know I won't lie your general style room and way you do your reviews is what makes me subscribe, and I feel like the best way to ask you questions about games would be on Twitter by hate that place with all of my heart, if you ever see this comment would you please find a way to do a review on the original Digimon World games, I wish they would get some love but they don't, have a wonderful day
My first Ys game was Wanderers From Ys on the Super Nintendo. I liked it but it was too hard for me at the time. Fast forward several years and my next Ys game was Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim for PS2. And I loved it. If you end up loving Ys Origin I wholeheartedly suggest playing Ark of Napishtim because it's built in the same engine (the same goes for Ys: Oath in Felghana, which I also recommend). Love your reviews!
Adol and Dogi bonking is something I'm here for!
Dogi is husband material. I mean look at that body and his kind demeanor. I’m like, take me dogi.
Pelvic: "But then it BREAKS out"
I see some timing choices on that gameplay footage xD
Dang, I know the initial PC release was bad, but how you gon dismiss the good work Durante put towards it XD.
Thanks for another lovely video :3
I really appreciate you giving you full honest opinion! Really good honest review.
Glad people appreciate my brutal honesty haha. Not everyone likes it apparently!
@@PelvicGaming haha yeah I can relate. even if I don’t agree with everything i’d rather have an honest take over just going with popular opinion. plus it’s clear that you played the entire game and fully understand it’s systems and everything like that, so I 100% respect your opinion. keep up the good work 😊
Thanks for the review
So yes its explained as a dream but based on everything that happened it did actually happen but because fate was changed for Dana's time and ours the timeline had to correct itself hence the dream. It's also why they reference the journey in 9
I've been super meaning to check this game out! Thank you so much for the review! I really trust your input on JRPGs as the JPRGQ (Japanese Role Playing Game Queen), and this definitely exposed some of the points that might make me a bit more hesitant to throw myself inl.
There are playable demos available on Switch and PS4, no harm in giving them a try before you buy.
I loved this game quite a bit. I can't argue your takes, though - they are valid.
Ys has always been a flawed but fun series. One of my very favorites, but I'm always hoping for a *bit* more modern implements with every new release - that Falcom may take a bit more from what it's peers have done better. As much as I adore them, Falcom almost always feels a little behind the times with Ys and LoH series. Sometimes, it adds a certain amount of charm and nostalgia to a bygone approach to RPGs. Other times? The frustration can be hard to overcome - such as the cameras and a few of the story beats in Ys VIII.
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SPOILERS:
I think it's worth considering that the idea of it all being a dream is mostly not true. This isn't a dream episode of a TV show or Mario 2 where the main character wakes up and it was just a dream and never happened. This isn't even the JRPG/anime trope of a character not actually being real but being imaginary or brought to life through the power of dreams. In the world of Ys, reality itself... real, legitimate, actual reality is a realm that exists because of the power of the Goddess's mind. Adol and friends aren't going to wake up and realize they aren't real. They're real. All of reality, all past, present and future is this realm created by the Goddess's mind. It's not really any different than any other creation myth, it just has a slight nuanced bit of individuality.
I'm just saying, that seems to be the main reason you didn't like the ending. But that isn't really what the story is. Adol isn't any less real than he was before and it isn't all a dream in the traditional sense of the word.
Oh, as for my first Ys game. It was Ys I on the Famicom.
Thanks for this explanation. I beat the game but didn't remember what she described, so this makes sense. I'd probably be ticked if I'd taken it as "just a dream", but didn't.
@@Taikaru Well, and to be honest, I DESPISE "it was all a dream" storylines. They're the absolute worst. But it's definitely not that. Reality birthing into existence from the mind of a goddess slumbering, and that being totally real and actual, is not the same as it being someone's night time fake fantasy. If none of it were real, Dana wouldn't have been able to replace the goddess and maintain reality with her new found power. If it were a dream in the literal sense, everything would have been fake and would have ceased to exist.
@@DeltathRiylaan Absolutely! I remember finding this story quite satisfying.
I really enjoyed your details
Ys 8 was my first Ys game and I definitely enjoyed it, looking forward to 9. Also may try out origins so i'll keep an eye out for your review on that one. This review has me very curious to try out Memories of Celceta
I would say there's a chance you might like Origins because it's a decent game, but you won't like it because of any similarities that it has with Ys VIII. Origins is like an arcade beat score based beat 'em up (or twin stick shooter, depending on the character you play) with a single dungeon tower crawl, basically. It's not bad, it's just a totally different genre and has a low focus on story.
Also, what story IS there is almost entirely pointless unless you've played Ys I+II because it's a direct story prequel to those and fills in some holes and gives some small revelations. Just saying.
This was my first ys game, so maybe I had no expectations but I LOVE THIS GAME. I enjoyed having a story that was mostly about survival, if anything I felt mixed about it become a save the world story, though I became fine with it in the end.
Didn't feel like the ending undid the series. I played star ocean 3, and now that was a series damaging twist. lol
Also anyone mad at this review needs to breathe, ys 8 reviewed and sold well, ys 9 is on the way. You'll live.
All Ys games are about saving the world, Adol is your friendly neighbourhood chosen one.
Great review, Pelvic!
Also I gotta ask, who is this friend sending you games? I dunno if you're aware, but a physical copy of Ys 8 is pretty expensive! I'm so jealous!
I think playing ys 8 right after memories of celceta made you get tired of it faster
Edit: I just heard you say the same thing at the end of your video lol
haha indeed. i played ys 8 first and my thoughts definitely are reversed with ys celceta although i still like it quite a bit since its Ys .
i will go back to replay it so i can appreciate it from a different pov
I guess since Ys VIII is the first Ys game I have picked up and that I like it, I have nowhere to go but up from here!
The camera is fine, loved the combat. I played on hard, perfect difficulty.
You should have a discussion with Ash Paulson about this game, he really loved it.
I'm bout 20 hrs in on the stadia version and I'm loving this jawn so far
I don't think your opinion is as odd as you say. You mentioned the things you like and the things that not, and I think that's a fair review. I'm finishing the game and I like it a lot, but I'm still agreed with you in many of your opinions.
Anyway, this is the first time I see your channel and I love it
Thank you so much. I know my opinion is in the minority but it's lovely to know I'm not alone.
I just finished Ys 8 too, and I agree with a lot of things you said. However, you mentioned they pulled a FFX, which is not accurate. The "dream" in FFX is not the dream like we have in real life because "Dream" Zanarkand still has a physical location near Baaj temple. All the things happened in FFX, still happened. Basically guys like Tidus and his dad are "Dreams", which are basically Aeons (it's just the terminologies can be confusing), Yu Yevon use the remaining citizens of "Real" Zanarkand, turn them into faiths in order to preserve his city as a memory, which effectively create a 'Dream" Zanarkand. He created 'Sin" which is effectively Yu Yevon's armour and basically Sin's goal is to ensure no one finds out about "Dream" Zanarkand, so that's why in the game, the "machina" were seen as taboo in Spira. So I don't agree Ys 8 pulled a "FFX".
My 1st Ys game was Ys 8, which I played this year (2020 has been a year of a lot of 1st RPGs for me)
And don't ever apologize for your opinion or feel the need to over explain why you feel the way you do. Let people hate. If you're coming from a sincere place (obviously this isn't you shitting on the game, you just didn't love it), you own your opinion.
I loved Ys 8, and I am getting Ys 9, Origins, and after watching this and hearing you go on about it, I will ahev to get to Celcetta now.
I'm thinking of downloading it now lol. If they have bonding events, we good to go
I do agree that the camera and autotargeting is terrible in this game.
Mine is 8 and I love the game. No issue with camera, targeting or control's and I started with the Vita version.
But then again, I'm an older gamer and some thing's don't rub me as they would for other's. I'm more tolerable I guess.
I'm gonna pick up Celceta on your recommendation. After I finish Like A Dragon.
Haha, I love the honesty with this review. If you enjoyed Ys memories of celceta, you’ll have a good time with Ys Origin. I loved Ys Origin :D
Now that I think about it, this game was basically a really good Filler for a main serious game.
Everything happened but then resets knowing no one really remembers what actually happened, like killing the serpent God
You kind of don't want people to remember that you destroyed their existence even if it was to prevent their extinction, no government in their right mind would let the contents of the Periplus of the Goethe Sea to become public knowledge.
Awesome review felt the same about the camera. But loved the island adventure.
Will you be branching out on any more falcom games *coughs* cold steel haha.
The Trails series is probably a bad idea since at it's core it is built around all the things she didn't like about Ys VIII. Plus starting at Sky is absolutely essential.
True though honestly I started with cold steel haha. I just pretend I'm from Erebonia and don't know what's going on in these other places.
@@ricardobelmont5984, so did I but after playing CS3 I went back and smashed through Sky and Crossbell while waiting for CS4, glad I did but damn do I wish I played them in order. CS3 is a very different experience with the rest of the story under your belt.
Ys 8 was my first and for now only Ys game. I loved the combat but also struggled with the Flash guarding/Moving and the lock-on, but the extremly hyped music made so that i didnt really care. I loved the building your Town aspect and that was also the part that hooked me until the story decided to get going. I just act liked the ending didnt happen.
But what i HATED was the Raids and Hunts. Everytime I saw the Icon glowing i just was drained of every joy i felt , I am just not the type for being scored like that and also for defending something.
the Thing i loved that most was unlocking all skills for all character and learning more about the combat and gettin better, and Dana Solo adventures are so much fun combat for me
You critizising this game so much makes me hopeful that i will love the other games even more when i get to playing them
That's how video games work bruh being scored on skill and performance
Shame you didn't enjoy it so much. It's one of my favourite games I've played this year. I will qualify this by saying it was my first Ys game. I agree about the slow start, although it grabbed me a lot sooner, towards the end of chapter 2 for spoilery reasons. I have played a bit of Celceta since and it hasn't grabbed me in the same way. I hate the fixed camera. Perhaps it depends which game you play first? 🤔
Have you played Sakuna: of Rice and Ruin? I hope you enjoy it. I'm loving it.
The game is absolutely not a dream.
Now it could be a dream in the same way that in the Chuthllu Mythos all of reality is the dream of an unknowable elder god...
But ***Spoilers*** the consequences of this game was the stopping of the cycle and the rising of Dana as the godess of these events. (Which story wise makes sense as Dana could not be Adol's long term love intrest given how the Ys stories go.)
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I felt the game was a (very worthwhile) slow burn. It starts with just trying to survive...then running into dinosaurs...then basicly finding the equivalent of Atlantis. I really liked it and thought it worked really well.
I am with you here. The true ending of the game was a good ending in my honest opinion.
That said - While I like the Ys games, I still think the Trails series (Trails in the Sky, Trails from Zero, Trails to Azure, Trails of Cold Steel) are the best work of Falcom. I also very much enjoyed the "hybrid" of the Trails and Ys series, called Tokyo Xanadu eX+. I still hope there will be a sequel to that game. It certainly deserves it.
Thanks for your review. Now I see why you weren’t a fan and in many cases it makes sense to me. Especially when it comes to the gameplay aspects like the camera and the affection thing. The rest I can live with. I didn’t mind the spoilers honestly. For me it raises more questions. Yeah Ill still play this one of these days.
The whole ending thing didn't really bother me all that much spoilers in these brackets (the whole thing of it being a dream I think would annoy me but considering its a goddess I see it more like thats just the language they used to say that how she created everything)
I do agree the timing on flash guarding feels really weird in 8 compared to celceta not having an actual guard to assosiate it with really throws off my timing and flash move is a bit weird to wear you more likely to activate it by dodging into attacks than you are if you dodge away
Yeah it didn’t bother be either , because it just sounds like a creation myth , not saying that everything is fake
@@maninatreeproductions9588 It actually has paralells to something like Azathoth from lovecraftian lore
He's an elder god who's dreams are the reality we live in and if he were to ever wake up we'd all cease to exist so in various lovecraft stories humanity and even some other elder gods work on making sure Azathoth stays sleeping
Good review! I liked the story very much and even the ending. I can see why you didn't like it, but for me it worked into the bigger theme of humans against nature and how small we are, but I still can see why you were pissed of by the conclusion. Oh well, lets see what IX brings on the table^^.
To each their own. For me Celceta doesn't even hold a candle compared to Lacrimosa of Dana.
So so so so so sooooooooo true. Ys 8 is a masterpiece. Celceta was great but Ys 8 has no rival even among its own franchise.
My first Ys game was Ys 3 on the SNES, and I'm also the odd one out; that's the black sheep of the series. I was super into it, and managed to be in a Kay Bee Toys when they were liquidating their SEGA Master System stuff; the console was $25, and games were $5 each. I'd had one since 1987, but I saw the first Ys game there! For $5! I was so excited, and then... that bump system. I've never loved the system, but once I got the hang of it, it was serviceable against regular enemies; the bosses were a nightmare. 2 sorta fixed this by giving you a fireball spell, which works great against bosses... except the last 2 - the hardest 2 that you also can't out-grind - are immune to the magic you've gotten really used to using. 3 was sidescrolling, and it was great, having a pretty huge moveset for the time, but 4 went back to the same old system. 5 added the attack button back in, and a jump, even though it was still overhead, but I think the series got REALLY good with 6. 6, Oath in Felghana (3 remake), and Origin all run in more-or-less the same engine, and they're great; if you wind up liking Origin, you'd probably enjoy the other 2, at least when it comes to gameplay; Origin has the best soundtrack out of the bunch. I haven't played any others in the series, yet, but either 7 or the Genesis version of 3 will be next for me.
I played the first YS game and still like overall YS games.
I actually recommend Ys 1&2 Chronicles more then any YS games.
and the meantime Zwei might be a good one too.
Hello there, great review as always! I will steer away from this game, in which I had some small interest.
I have one question regarding your evaluation system: Why did you give this game a 7 out of 10, given that you disliked so many aspects of it? Wouldn't it be worth giving it a lower score? It seems to me that a "7" is "good enough", with minor inconveniences, and being nothing special.
Thank you for your videos!
I am legit shocked about your negatives. Although it reeeaaaallly feels like its because you played Celceta right before this lol I also didn't have any issues with the battle system or camera. In fact I thought it was one of the best battle systems I have ever played (and I have played waay to many). I played on the Switch so maybe thats why?...maybe? The dream thing was a pile of poo tho. But I just ignored it and enjoyed the character stories. Welp maybe IX will fix the problems you had and be all around awesomesauce. We will see :P
I wanted to ask, have you ever played the Hyperdimension Neptunia games? They are turnbase RPGs that are set in a world that is a parody of the gaming industry. The characters being personafication of gaming consoles and companies while also poking fun and some of the tropes and cliches you would find in video games and anime.
ayyyyyyyyy you got to Ys 8! big hype! this series became my favorite of all time in my adulthood and that's incredible to me. love Adol christin and the lore of this series.
I don't agree with quite a few of the points you bring up with the story, characters, or celceta (for me that's one of the weakest in the series, but i have to go back and replay from a different perspective to appreciate it more.
that said. I completely support you voicing your thoughts even if i disagree because they help bring points to the focus so that fans can know what flaws to expect or to at least level their expectations. also it brings conversation forth and we can all see things from different viewpoints. thank you for reviewing the Ys series
I cannot express how much I adore you
@Pelvic Gaming ❤️❤️❤️
Looking forward to hearing your opinions on Origins. It's my favorite in the series.
11:26 lead to the middle finger. Lol. I love the joke and enthusiastic to get that FU. HAHAHA.
I still need to check out the demo, but it sounds like this game may NOT be for me. Your complaints seemed like things I would complain about so I’m a bit iffy on it now haha. I do own Celceta so maybe I should just give that a go first!
Ys on Turbo-CD, but I didn't finish it. Ys 7 was the first one I finished. Love the party system.
Pretty rough on the narrative, but I would agree on the pacing. The perspective switches were always ill timed.
I really enjoyed the 60 hours I recently spent on this game. Gave me pretty much what I expected, cool combat with solid defensive options, spectacular music,, puzzling out the world map, and a decent if predictable story.
I thought the ending was fine, but it could have been the Goddess' huge cans distracting me.
I'm still excited for IX, I may even pony up for the collector's edition.
It's a shame you haven't enjoyed Lacrimosa as much as me! I love this game! Especially the relationship system and more story from the Trails series 😁 the music is *chef's kiss* indeed! My first Ys was Celceta on the Vita, which started my love for Nihon Falcom ❤
i've played a few ys games here and there and honestly i was so hyped for this one after so many glowing reviews that i was kind of disappointed. for how flawless everyone says it is it has plenty. its very clunky and definitely feels like a portable game on console. so i appreciate this review a lot, knowing i'm not the only crazy one. it is a good game but just good.
The ending was weird I'll give you that. It's Star Ocean Till the end of time. Everything else I really enjoyed though.
I played 6 Ys games back to back this year and never got bored no idea how the hell I did it lol. I usually can't.
I would agree in that I didn't like the raids and skipped the optional exploration and fetch quests, so I never unlocked the true ending, but besides the raids, everything else that was part of the main game I really liked.
One of my favorite games ever i love the ys series
Have this on my vita and got it again on switch for the extra dlc this games sooo full of content and its fun too and amazing game
It’s embarrassing but I never knew how to pronounce Ys until watching your reviews!
For what it's worth I had to ask my friends lol
When I was younger and played 3 on the snes I pronounced it "wise" lol
@@daelusraine2989 same!
For anyone that loves this soundtrack, it's available on Spotify, FYI. Also I thought VIII was amazing. Something about the graphical styles, menus, slower calm pacing, and presentation just reminded me of classic JRPGs from the PS1 era. I do love Memories of Celceta too though, those are the only 2 Ys games ever played but man are they great! I think everyone should try both!
You're in for a treat if you have access to a working PC, Origins, 1 & 2 Chronicles, Oath in Felghana (3) and Ark of Napishtim (6) are all excellent. Can't say anything about Seven yet as I'm only part of the way through it.
@@danielfielke3895 thanks for the advice! I actually have a copy of Oath in Felghana on PSP unplayed, and I know the Vita has a lot of Ys games that can be downloaded from the store. Very tempted to play at least 1 before Ys IX comes out!
@@TheCmurley131, many Ys fanatics regard Oath as the greatest action RPG ever made, definitely give it a shot if you already have a copy.
Pelvy! I want to join your Discord but I'm not finding it listed in the video descriptions. ;_;
It's Patreon exclusive! For one dollar you're in!
Ys 8 is one of my favourite Ys games, but I do understand your criticisms (except for the camera, which I did not have a problem with..). The ending did bother me but it didn't take away the enjoyment I had in the fast paced action.
Am I the only one who loved the story here? I thought it was interesting that the world was the product of the goddess' dream and I don't think it hurts the story at all because she is a goddess and thus reality, as far as this world is concerned, flows through her anyway. I think it's because she IS a goddes that the concept of the world as a dream, doesn't bother me at all.
i did not see this coming :-) But hey we all have diffrent opinions and thats okay to! I realy liked this game but yes it was my first ys game... So now i want to play celceta and see what that is about.
Thx for the review!
I enjoy Ys 9 but Ys8 and 6 was my personal fav.oath of felghana is on honorable mention
I'm a big Ys fan, but kind of agree with you on finding Ys8 subpar... though disagree on a lot of the reasons. Things I agree with: the flash dodge/block mechanic timing always seemed off to me too, and the auto-target sucked.
Otherwise I actually thought the plot started strong and then got less interesting. I was just way more engaged with the early finding crewmates, mystery of the Ripper, etc stuff. The whole "save the world from magical evolution thing" was just too abstract for me -- plus that ending, as you said.
Music rocked as usual, but was far from my favorite of the series.
And...eh, I guess it was mostly just the gameplay that brought it down for me. Fun, yes. But also janky and unrefined in some ways. Nearly unlimited menu healing, tons of same-y feeling skills, etc.
I started my Ys journey with Oath in Felghana (well, technically SNES 3, but we don't talk about that) and its still by far my favorite in terms of gameplay, music, and story. I highly suggest you check it out before giving up on the series. Origins has a similar gameplay style and is good, but it doesn't quite hit the same spot as Felghana for me.
I don't think she got that when the goddess said she had a dream of a perfect world, that she meant it metaphorically not literally-
Ys Oath In Felghana is probably the best of the Ys games. If you like Ys Origin, definately play Felghana.
My first ys: game was ys VI: Ark of Napishtim the demo only. I also have a copy of ys 1 and 2 for the ds. Never beaten neither. I hope to get AON truly one day.
my first was ys 3 on the SNES which is one of the only games ive ever played i couldnt get past the first 2 map screens without grinding for a long time
I'm really surprised you didn't like this game that much. I don't agree with everything you said cuz I personally really enjoyed all of the things you thought were bloated. Hunts, raids, fishing, finding and bonding with castaways and just the world exploration alone were all pretty good. Also didn't have as many issues with the combat that you did and I'm pretty sure there was a setting in the options menu that had something to do with the targetting system. Despite all of this, I lost the drive to finish the game LOL. I feel like maybe it was because the progression of the game was starting to feel very formulaic.
Seriously though its interesting to see an opinion of someone who didn't like the game too much as opposed to most people ended up loving it. You're opinion is 100% valid.
Also a tip, for Flash Guarding, you can just hold the R1 button (i'm assuming that's the button for flash guard on PS4 cuz I play on Switch) at the correct time to perform it. Once I read about that somewhere online, it became far more easier to do.
Edit: It was actually L1 I believe for flash guarding not R1
Your gripes with the game were elaborated and explained well so you wouldn't hear me complaining lol.
I honestly do think if you did play Ys 8 before Memories of Celceta it would be reversed. Don't know if there was a method to provide it to you that would have ended up with you liking both? Maybe playing Ys 7 first? Lol. Either way good review, you explained yourself in detail and that's all we're here for.
I do think you like short, simple and sweet games more so Ys Origin i think you'll like more than Ys 8 but not as much as MoC. At this point i don't know if you'll like any Ys game more than MoC.
Aww thanks Riku.
Maybe after years have past I'll give it another go? I just know Celceta was everything to me. It was just bullseye after bullseyes save for water combat or switching characters to perform their unique actions. And I will give credit to Lacrimosa's story. It just...took forever to get there.
But we'll see with Origin! After playing Trials of Mana I'm still deciding if I want to dive into another action game or maybe chill out with some turn base goodness.
Feels like the Ys games can be pretty much grouped into 3 classes (Ys1&2) / Oath(3), Napishtim(6), Origins (0) / Ys 7, Celceta(4) / Ys 8 and 9. I personally prefered the 2nd gen of the ys games in general, not sure how to explain why though. I think I didn't like the whole party system introduced in the newer ones vs the previous solo character games.
I agree it has a lot of fluff.
I highly recommend checking AboveUp review on Ys 1+2. They are simple yet fun games that were quirt revolutionary for their time.
I'm currently playing through Celceta after having played through Ys VIII and Ys IX. I find not being able to control the camera annoying, but am enjoying the story more than I thought I would.
I think you should play Ys IX, the story is a lot more streamlined compared to VIII and has a good ending (I think there's one extra boss you have to kill to get the good ending and they make it almost unavoidable). I honestly think you'll enjoy it.
They also refined the combat from VIII and the new monstrum abilities make it really fun to traverse the city. I feel like I can safely say IX has the best combat in the series. The game is split up into chapters, but it's more to introduce a character and complete their arc. There's no disconnect like there is in VIII. I also think you'll like the fact IX is more similar to Celceta when it comes to characters since you don't have to hunt for them. There will be actual missions to do that will then end up with the NPCs joining you (plus it's fun having a bar as a base of operations). The only affinity stuff is basically giving the character a gift that you will buy in a shop as you unlock them. There are also some fun call backs to VIII and Celceta in the game too.
The only bad part is if you like different outfits for the characters, you'll have to buy the digital deluxe edition on the Playstation store to get them all because there are a handful you can't get any other way.
I heard for Ys X they're going to be trying something new with the combat since after IX their current system has pretty much reached the pinnacle and there's not much else they can do with it.
Yeahhh I tried the demo of 9 and I absolutely hated it. I like how simple Memories of Celceta is.
I don't doubt 9 is good but it's just not for me.
Haha, I tried the demo of 9 too and hated it as well. I felt the camera was all over the place, the wall running wasn't really controllable, and I kept falling in pits or getting turned around because of the camera. I thought I made a mistake pre-ordering the game. However, after actually playing the game, I can safely say it's an awful demo that will probably turn more people off from trying it.
In the actual game, you've had Adol for a bit so you're used to his monstrum power and you've probably run up a bunch of buildings throughout the city with White Cat so you have an actual feel for their abilities. In fact, the 1st dungeon has you only using Adol's abilities so you get used to them (I think that's what they should've put in the demo). Playing through the demo dungeon in the normal game, I now understood the context where if there's an arrow on a wall pointing up, you should run up that wall (and running up others doesn't always work out). All the dungeons in the game where you have to run up a wall are setup like this. I ended up having a better experience in the demo dungeon in the actual game after playing the first handful of hours. I can't say it was my favorite dungeon, but at least I was able to get around it and didn't feel frustrated.
One thing I should mention about Ys 8 (having played Ys 8 on both the Switch and PS4), is the issue you had with timing those flash moves and guards might be related to the game. I believe Celceta runs at 30fps and I know Ys 8 on PS4 runs at 60fps. The Switch version of Ys 8 runs at 30fps like Celceta does. The timing for executing those moves in each of those versions is/feels different because of this. I initially played Ys 8 on Switch and when I tried it on PS4 I had an issue executing those moves at first and it took me a little while to get the new timing down.
If you ever change your mind and decide to try Ys 9 or Ys 8 again (it's on sale pretty often on the eShop), I'd suggest trying it on the Switch docked with a Switch Pro Controller and see if you like the combat better that way. If you're not enjoying the combat in Ys, you're not going to be enjoying the game. I also prefer the button layout on the Switch Pro controller compared to the PS4 one (I fully admit to customizing the PS4 controls on Ys 9 so they worked similar to the Switch Pro Controller layout).
You know what was fun? Listening to EVERYONE tell Captain Barbaros how none of this (The shipwreck) was his fault. Pretty sure that's not what most people would have told him.
Also, I forgot to mention, my first Ys game was the Ys 1 & 2 remake bundle, which are very different from the modern ones.
Yeah the story is not for everyone, but hey, the music is good right?
I listened to it when I do my daily workout.
Great review, I feel very much as you do about this game, Id give it a 6 or so. It wasn't bad but to me was very standard run of the mill action gameplay with the only thing elevating it above average being the falcom music. They always do a good job there, You clearly like old school style jrpgs so I highly recommend you check out trails in the sky when you get a chance ;) Only if your up to it and in the mood of course :)
Better it were that you give us your fair opinion than try to sell us some BS you don't mean. I've never played a single Ys game. Wanted to, never got around to it. Maybe one day I will. A good review, as usual. Keep up the awesome work, milady ^_^
Since when did the ending imply that everthing is ******SPOILER****** just a dream. I thought just the part with the dinosaurs and the Lacrimosa was a memory and they still landed on the island. And how it implies that Adol's adventures from the future and the past didn't happen. I don't remember anything like that. Maybe I interpreted the end differently.
And afterall, isn't real life nothing but a dream ;)
My first Ys game is Ys 6. But my first completed Ys game is Ys 8.
7 out of 10??!! It is pretty good!! The music is always amazing! But the artstyle.... Falcom has been locked with this generic, dull and stiff anime artstyle for so long!! I wish they could review themselves and look up to incorporate (in the graphics in game too) Some of the Y IV from PC Engine character design!!! That was trully vibrant and funky anime art!!! Now It looks all the same, with their plastic noses and round faces....
Oh, it's not that you were bad at Ys 8, it was just you were thinking of it as the same as Ys: Memories of celceta. Ys 7-MEmories-8 Are similar but they play different. I personally think it's easier to flash guard on this one rather Memories, which I suck hard. SO, 8 wasn't your cup of tea, that's fine! XD
I don't care about the concept of the end of the game on the spoiler section, because they made a lore for Ys, and I think it's cool. It also explains how some races are so overpowered on the world of YS xD
I like the “Y’s” series. “Oath in Felghana” and “Y’s Seven” are two favorite action- RPG’s. And like Lady Pelvic, I was (and still am) bored to tears with the beginning of “Y’s 8: Lacrimosa of Dana”. Combat is great, but the camera sucks like Lady Pelvic says.