M3 iMac Review after 1 Month - Did Apple MESS up?!
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- Lots of tech reviewers are calliong the new M3 iMac a disappointment, but is that actually true? Let's compare it to some of the most popular previous Macs to find out!
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I'm not complaining about the performance, though that is a concern. I'm complaining about the screen size. What I want from an iMac is basically a Mac Studio with 5k 27 inch screen, great speakers, webcam and microphones. And the ports of a Mac Studio.
And that's available today at your local Apple Store. Buy the 27". Studio Display plus the Mac mini or Studio of your choice. OH.....the price. Well, yes, perhaps a bit more than the old iMac 27." But not necesarily.
@@RA-nm9xu I'd rather buy a refurb or used 2020 iMac 27. I already have a Mac Studio driving 3 Dell Ultrasharp monitors and a 2015 iMac 27. I just love the iMac 27.
@@spacecadet2172 I already have a Mac Studio and I don't want a Studio Display. I want a 27 inch iMac.I have a 2015 iMac next to the Studio which drives 3 Dell Ultrasharp monitors. I use the Studio for production and the iMac for office stuff. I paid $200 for the iMac which gives me the display, speakers, microphones and webcam for a lot less than a Studio Display. And I got a computer to go along with it.
But $$$$$$ more
@@spacecadet2172 This is not " exactly what he wants", because this is not an all-in-one!
So, the problem isn't the chip itself, it's the pathetic 250GB SSD for a 2023 computer as a "base model", doesn't matter if it's for your home, parents, etc, 250GB ?? come on Apple.
You’re looking at it from an incredibly narrow viewpoint. My gf couldn’t care less about 256gb. Same as my mother and sister etc. loads out there that finds 256gb plenty.
Also this is a desktop. You can very easily connect external drives to this mac
We have had an m1 iMac for past two years with 256GB SSD, currently still have 185gb free. We simply use an external 1TB drive for anything large. For £85 for a 1tB external T7 Samsung it makes no sense to fall for Apples price gouging SSD upgrade costs.
You know what’s more sad than Apple’s 8/256? The people willing to defend it in 2023. It is “this is good enough mentality” the reason companies like Apple stay stagnant instead of offering better specs and better deals because consumers do not care and keep buying them.
Back in 2010, my parents did not care that they had only 2gb ram and a non-SSD Macbook but once they began to grow as users learning how to edit pictures, layout news letters, and multitask several apps at once. They told me their Mac grew slow.
Good thing you can upgrade the MacBooks back then and I upgraded the RAM and SSDs as their needs grew. Something not possible in today’s iMac.
What do you people store on your computers lol do you actually take the pictures off your phone? I don’t they live on my 512gb phone or in my 1TB storage in the cloud haha like it’s a base ass computer it does the job it’s fast your parents would be happy with it so would your grandparents or someone else who just wants a computer
The problem is not M3 performance but stubbornness of offering just one screen size and, off course, the measly 250 Gb + 8Gb RAM as base configuration. And lets not forget the UI is much poorer than the former iMac interaction - no SD card reader, no Ethernet (optional on M1-3 and external), just 2 thunderbolt 3 (not 4…) ports… The previous iMac line could be speced as a semi-pro machine, this one single model cannot.
I'm pretty sure there's an Ethernet connector on the iMac power brick
@@highphi4812 Not on the base model...
I got the M1 version with 16GB 2 years ago and really love it. One of if not the best computer I’ve owned which includes several past iMacs
The problem for me is that I have a 2017 27-inch iMac and that 5k screen is so good I don't want to part with it. I may go with the Luna Display dongle on a Mac Mini in due course to replace it.
I have the fully spec’d iMac 2020, and recently bought an M3 Pro MacBook. The performance difference is crazy. I love my iMac but I have to move on.
Thanks for the perspective and reality check....
I think a lot of people seem to forget the original iMac concept - a simple computer for the masses. Over time it became more powerful to plug the gap between the Mini and the Mac Pro, but now we have the Studio to fill that gap and the iMac has gone back to this original concept. It's a simple computer for those with modest needs. As an all in one it is still the best one on the market, and it is fast enough for most people doing just 'stuff'. It's a case of right tool for the job, if you need more RAM, CPU, etc then get a Studio with your choice of monitor, or a MBP. I'm sure Apple would sell a ton of 'iMac Pro' type computers if they decided to make one. I guess make enough noise and they will do that, but the trend seems to be power users are just buying the high-end MBP.
yes! i was up in arms before i even started the video about people complaining it was a bad computer. The M1 24” wasn’t a bad computer. It’s SUPPOSED to be simple. It’s not designed to be a mega powerful workhorse. It’s the computer you buy your grandma or your parents or someone who uses email and googles recipes and watches youtube. It’s difficult to examine this from a tech-enthusiast standpoint because this is not the computer for the tech enthusiast, and it wasnt designed to be that.
True. But Apple is too greedy. Base computer models in late 2023 should start with AT LEAST 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD.
@@innnews6299 Agree with you there. I have an M1 Air with 16GB and occasionally it does complain about not enough RAM. As efficient as MacOS is, there is no way 8GB is enough for anything but the most simple of tasks, and common sense will tell you that it will page very heavily if there's not enough RAM shortening the lifespan of the SSD. At the prices Apple are charging 16GB should be standard on all models
The 27" iMac though was amazing. They need a 27" version of this, keep everything else the same, and it will sell a lot. However, it would also eat into the Studio/mini sales. But as it is now, the mini/studio combined with that SUPER expensive 5K monitor is way more money than a 27" iMac used to be.
@@77drisI quickly got used to the 24” size. I adjusted the resolution in settings and feel there is plenty of screen real estate. The 4.5k display is also high quality. It’s not quite 5k, but it’s better than 4k. This is a very nice computer that doesn’t get enough credit, especially if you spec it up a bit.
Not sure why people can't understand that the 24" iMacs are a replacement for the 21.5" iMacs and not the 27" iMacs. If you want something to replace the 27" iMacs then you have to get either a mini or studio with the Apple studio display unfortunately.
That's true the only problem is that Mac mini with same exact chip as iMac with no performance gains and paired with studio display is in my opinion is bad value for 2200$ with 8gb ram and 256gb ssd. It's bad value and not the replacement for 27 inch iMac. Apple should make iMac pro to replace the 27 inch iMac even the Mac Studio is not a replacement for 27 inch iMac. As for 24 inch it is awesome value now with m3.
Seems like used/refurb M1 iMac is an even better bargain for nearly any basic computer needs in a typical home computer. It's going to be a lot cheaper than a 16GB M3 iMac.
Coming from a 2017 iMac, I think the new 24" M3 24 GB and 1Tb SSD is perfect for me.
Next week:
I was wrong (again) about the m3 iMac
How good is this for streaming with ECAMM LIVE Or recording or showing it
do you guys have any outlook on the imac pro? it's been over 6 years...
I have the 27" 2020 iMac i7 5700xt 64gb ram.
I would still keep this iMac over the M3. I don't think it's worth me spending over $2400ish for a new iMac especially the screen size.
I think the new M4 or M5 will be the better upgrade in terms of iMac even with 24".
The current M3 vs Intel iMac the CPU and SSD destroys and beats the Intel version. GPU wise, I still think that 5700xt is still going strong.
Can you make a comparison between the M1 and M3? I would really appreciate it.
I have recently purchased an m3 iMac and previously had an m1 iMac. Everything in your video is correct and the machine is used for the general reasons and not made for professional heavy loads that pro devices would be used for. This has a 4.5k monitor along with the m3 chip for the same prices as the m1. When this is used for the reasons it was made for it is the perfect machine with more speed and power than the M1.
@iTalktech1985 What spec is your M3 iMac?
Going to best buy now to pick up my first mac, i bought a 14in MacBook Pro 18gb’s ram 512 ssd. But i do have a 13900hx 32gb’s ram, 4070 16in laptop. And my main system is a 7950x3d 4090. I’ve always wanted to try one of the new m1 chips from apple. I mainly wanted it for watching movies and everyday use plus light video editing and the main reason was the battery life. I love my 13900hx its a beast but im lucky to get 4-5 hours doing very light tasks (more like 3-4 probably) And I have an iPhone so it should play nice with the MacBook. Luckily I did save some money buying it Cyber Monday and im still debating on picking up apple care for it.
What exactly is Ray Tracing? Do the M2 variants have it, or is this something new with just the M3’s?
It’s funny how pple expect visual changes from a hardware that’s just in it’s second gen, 1st being with the M1 chip, the hardware is still very good to go for another generation or two before it ought to be seen as dated, i think the tech community of late are just being too dramatic and demanding, they think it’s easy to manufacture and manage a big business while also playing the long game…
Exactly. The iMac already got a design change 2 years ago and it’s only now being refreshed, why does it need to change again? It’s such an unnecessary aspect to nitpick.
They seem to always have a thing or two against Apple whom is definitely not perfect but are not given enough credit for where they’re incredibly good at
It’s £1400 in the UK (~$1550), it’s far too expensive to be a “family” computer unless there’s someone who genuinely needs the M3 performance.
I just want to know if the gb memory upgrade is worth it?
Does it help internal systems run smoothly or nah?
It’s worth upgrading the ram, if you have a lot of apps open at once or use third party pro apps, or if you just use it for web browsing, watching videos, light gaming, photo editing and light video editing you will be good for the next 3 years. I got this for my bedroom with the 16gb of ram and 512gb of storage and it’s amazing.
Ordered the 512 gig version of this for video and photo editing and I’m stoked! I know it’s not really designed for editing, but I’m far from a pro and won’t be editing anything crazy like 8k or graphic intensive stuff, so I’m sure it’ll work great.
I had the fully spec'd-out M1 model, and was very impressed overall, especially the aesthetic, an absolutely beautiful looking machine. So much so, I had to re-arrange my room/desk layout just so I (and everyone else!) could see that deep metallic blue and big-ass Apple logo.
I was also just as impressed with the fact that despite it not being a "Pro" machine, it could handle "Pro" tasks.
So I was very happy when Apple announced their "Scary Fast" event, and dropped the M3 24' iMac. With little to no change, at all! (If it ain't broke, why fix it!?!), I again ordered the Blue, fully spec'd-out model (within 15 min. after launch).
Now, a 27' model would have been nice, as would a "Pro" version, but that would have cost a lot more, besides, I believe they will be coming soon anyway. And yeah, they could have changed out the Lightning charge ports to USB-C, but to be honest, it really isn't that big of a deal, I mean, its not like anyone is transferring data through the mouse/keyboard/trackpad, and in my experience, they only need charging every 2-3 weeks at most, so I don't really see the big deal (with the exception of the mouse, that shit needs to be changed!).
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Nice man. Glad to hear. These machines are nice! I don’t get all the hate. I’m seriously considering buying one. But we’ll see. Thanks for the post!
It seems quite bizarre that Logic Pro, Apple's own DAW, runs slower on the M3 than on the M1 or M2, especially considering so many other DAWs use the internal cpu much more efficiently. If anyone can explain why,, I'd be so grateful. :(
Saw a video that showed that Logic was only maxing out the performance cores and not efficiency cores but some other DAWs maxed out both… I have no idea why this happens and hopefully Apple can do a Logic update soon.
Its probably because he compared M3 and M2 Pro
No, I think he compared the M1 Macobook Pro to the same M3 Macbook Pro tbh. It was a rigorous and well-run test. The M3 doesn't use the efficiency cores for some reason. If you know why that is, I'd be most grateful to learn. Cheers.@@enpassantcheckmate
@@MPHORROCKS The iMac with M2 Pro I believe i better then the standard M3 and it has more cores but otherwise I don't know
I still have my M1 and I love it!!! My first desktop Mac and I'm super impressed!
16MB / 512 GB is the perfect iMac
Hi. Does the 512GB M3 iMac have dual NAND chips and, if so, does it make it much faster and worth the choice?
Yes, it does. I'm going to take the one with 512 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM.
*Why are you not using speedometer 2.1?*
Is that the binned model, the 8 core CPU and 8 core GPU right?
Thankyou! I have a 2019 27" iMac and wasn't sure if I should upgrade because I like the big screen. Your review confirmed the power of apple silicon! Thanks for the comparison. Much appreciated.
I bought a pretty spec'd out 16 GB Ram M3 iMac, and it's spectacular. Hasn't had a single task thrown at it that it didn't blaze through.
Now that is a top-notch video. Thanks!
"a high quality keyboard and MOUSE..." Cough, cough. you lost me right there.
Thanks for letting us know this. I'm sure the M3 iMac is a super nice, fast desktop for us Mac users. I'd love to have one!
I'd be curious to see the thermals on that maxed out 27" iMac with the full 128gb of DDR4 RAM and a 2TB SSD. I would assume the the 27" iMac would breath much better due to the surface area, therefore delaying thermal throttling?
Got a 27" iMac Pro, Xeon 8 core, 64GB, Vega 64 Pro 16GB
It thermar throttles a lot when doing renders in Media Encoder or DaVinci
I am now looking to replace my intel iMac with a Mac mini. I don’t want to reduce the screen size.
Any chance of seeing how the new iMac does on some AAA game titles? thx
Would really love a 27” IMac Pro.
No mention about the iMac M3 4 port version Has 2 cool fans I believe ?? just like it has on the M1 version
as you can see in your video at 4.36sec 2 fans . as you say only a single fan ???
please can you confirm my details about this ..
thanks
This iMac design is soulless. The older one has a personality… the new one feels like a block of metal
Apple should have put in the M3 Pro SoC into the 24" iMac. *THAT* would have made it very useful for even medium-duty video editing.
10:10 ... This guy really just said a computer with 8GB of RAM could be a future-proof machine for the next 10 years.
How are we supposed to take you seriously with that. 5-10 chrome tabs and you're already maxing out the RAM.
Have one on order.. same color. 16gb & 1tb SSD.
Wouldn't upgrading the SSD to 512 Gb or 1 Tb improve performance, as well? My question: for editing podcasts in Logic Pro (typically no more than 4-5 tracks), would the M3 iMac be adequate? I really want a 27" iMac Pro, but it's not available, and I don't want to spend the money for a Cinema Display and a high-end Mac mini or Mac Studio. Thoughts?
It does drastically if you only have the 8gb ram version. The 256 variant has much lower transfer speeds even worse than m1 air. Only has one nand
Is the 256GB SSD still slow
i have a game pc but i also using a 2017 inch the imac all i use for to chrome and remoting into my pc
I bought m1 imac in Aug 2021. Should I get m3 imac or wait m4 imac in mar 2025?
Never heard anyone complain about the performance, the issue is 8 GB of RAM. The iPhones 15 pro literally has 8 GB of RAM. You’ll never run into a situation where you think the chip isn’t fast enough, only when you’re multitasking and run out of ram, so the whole system feels like it’s so slow
I do stacking. So maybe 50 to 60 pics will it handle it.aa each pic 40mb . Planning to get one . Need opinion
The real problem is, outside US the price has dramatically increased where the performance is on par with the previous model for the normal consumers.
It was not a popular product, but it became a trash while with leas money people
could have bought a 27" imac with external graphics.
If I took base model with 16GB ram & 512gb harddrive. Is it still come with single nand chip???
No, the single nand chip is only for 256GB
Error at 3:10. You said 1500, when it’s listed at 1 dollar short of 1700. But I get what you’re saying 8mcore not 10core. Plus everyone should know by now that you need 16gb in every computer you get these days. I have an 8gb m1 and I’ve not had a stall yet.
I realized mid-convo with someone else in convo with, that the 24inch is what the iMac's were originally ( the white iMac and the first aluminum ones that followed )
I came from the 27in and got used to this 24in size within a few hours ( I changed the display setting to more space and it is like my 5k was honestly )
In terms of power, I produce music and do some basic video editing and how my previous 5k was to this, this one is so damn smooth, I'm beyond happy.
I went for the highest model (2TB and 24gig of ram) because I'm not one who likes to change machines often. If it can go the distance, I'm happy and if my previous 2015 5k was still working like new, even up to now, then this one should of course exceed it, and that will make anyone happy in the long run.
Oh and extra ports, you can easily get a dock ( ones that blend with the stand so it looks like its a part of it ) for about a hundred bucks.
I also got a thunderbolt enclosure with a 1TB SSD that matched Apple's internal drive of over 3000gb read and write, so the space issue can be resolved as well easily. ( this I wish i knew before purchasing the iMac, I would have gotten a minimal storage and higher on the external )
But yea, I think if people actually own one, pro or not who had iMac's...they are going to be very happy.
3:20 - Single NAND chip drama:
2022 - if you want to have decent performance - get the 512Gb of storage, not the RAM
2023 - if you want to have decent performance - get the 16Gb RAM
I'm confused. So should we get the 8/512 model or 16/256? 🤔
My question exactly.
Will upgrading to 512 gb of SSD also compensate for the single land performance of the 256 gb model?
Keep everything the same, give it a 27" screen and it would be great. 24" is too small these days.
I just know that I am not going to be disappointed, although I will not be using the mouse. I cannot stand mac mouses. But appart from that brilliant. This is the mac I have been waiting for. Just the right size, just the right power for me. First upgrade for 7 years. I am going the fully monty with optimum memory and RAM. I have been using iMacs and macs since they first came out and probably not since the first iMac have I been so excited about an upgrade.
But how does it compare to the M1 iMac?
Same question here
I have a 2019 iMac 27 inch, i9, 40 GByte of RAM. I have performed coding, Matlab based simulations, 10-15 minute iMovie renderings with 4K/60 log footage, etc. without any issues except for some notable fan noise. I opted to not spend the $400 for the updated graphics at the time of purchase though one could certainly argue at the time that it would future proof the machine. Ha. I do look forward to updating to an M3 Pro or more likely M3 Max system and possibly using it with my 27 inch iMac via Universal Control for parallel tasks. I can't imagine that the 24 inch iMac will be future proof for the next ten years. For example, this machine may not be able to smoothly handle even modest future video production for AR and VR applications which will be much more commonplace than they are today. In ten years, a base system may very well come with at least 64 GByte of RAM. CZcamsrs will ridicule Apple for including such a low amount of RAM:)
i mean, on the other hand, spending 1699 USD on a windows machine at least promises you to getting an 4070ti or 4080, a 13600K and up, 1TB storage at least and however much ram you prefer, with this, if you buys a m3, you can only get this model listed in the video which is not at all that impressive (16 256)...
Wait! how many GPU and CPU cores are there?
my new mt vs 2020 intel, my m3 is maxed out ram and half the speed of the simular set up intel.not sure what yours is doing.
for Lightroom photoshop and logic ,I just don't use it.
Not even that, the problem is how much they charge to upgrade the ram and storage.
It’s just a bad value compared to a Mac Mini. It is basically a $900 price increase from the Mac Mini spec equivalent. You can get a really good Dell or LG 4k 27” monitor for $230-300. Is the iMac monitor worth $600 more? 3x the price? Probably not for 99% of people.
Why is the Apple logo missing from the front ??
The M3 iMac is proving to be just the Mac upgrade I’ve been waiting for given my primary interest is 3D modelling for personal use. So I’ll be ordering an M3 iMac with 24GB RAM and 1TB SSD. I think I’ll go with blue.
Why wouldn’t you buy a Mac Studio and get way more performance for a similar price? You can get a good monitor for $230-300.
@@DOGroove M3 is better at single core. Unless you wait for the mac studio m3
@@DOGroove Because of Scaling issues with monitors
Did you end up pulling the trigger? I'm considering getting the same specs. I need to use Final Cut Pro. Shooting 1080p, 2.7k and some 4k from Iphone 15 max. Think we will be okay?
You get a Mac Studio, but then you need to get a monitor and speakers as well as keyboard and mouse if you don’t already have them. It starts getting pricey.
Please compare m3max and 4090 !
I’d still take the 2020 i9 iMac with 64gb of RAM over the M3 iMac with its max 24GB RAM but that’s just user specific for my orchestral templates 24GB is just filled up way to fast.
The mac studio would be far better for your needs then, that's the new iMac for power users.
Saying that, the m3 would be miles ahead of away outdated intel iMac. Just so god damn slow in comparison to the M chips.
Trade in for m3 24gb while you can. Every month the trade in gets lower and lower.
@@ed61730 yes thats true , if I had to buy one now of course it'll be the Mac Studio but if I had the I9 iMac now I wouldn't see the need to upgrade to a new system. For most music Production you'll run out of RAM first then CPU Performance (at least in my case) didn't want to generalize it for everyone :D
@@ed61730 lol every year people like you need to get this you need to get that. I been computer programming for decades. Computers are so fast these days it really does not matter. Even on a m1 8gig memory I can process over 10 million datasets records into a database in less than a millisecond how fast do we really need?
I'm still using a 2013 iMac w/ 8gb. I'm happy with it and editing all the way. best of all I can switch to an SSD :) Not so easy with the new ones :)
Apple has had ssd’s in every computer since 2014 if memory serves there is no need to switch to an ssd on a modern mac.
@@samlawrence4670 Yes. My old iMac is still using an HDD. It's SATA so it's easy for me to replace assuming the tech never changes. 1TB SSD's are cheap nowadays. if my HDD wasn't still working fine, I would switch it to SSD tomorrow. But I'll make the most of it for the moment. I do recall that there are still Mac's that are HDD till 2015 I think.
@@samlawrence4670apple sold base model imacs with hdd until 2019.
@@samlawrence4670MacBook yes iMac no. Many had HDD and fusion drives well into 2019 or so.
Love my M3 iMac and don’t regret it at all!
I love my 5K iMac Pro. This new machine, while faster in many scenarios, has a smalleer screen and does not boot to Windows for some apps that I still need. Non-starter, sorry, Apple. Come up wiht a 27+ screen and I might reconsider.
8gb definitely isn't future proofed. the iMac also no longer makes much sense in a world where Mac laptops can be specced to a faster machine. in days gone by it wasn't just for the extra screen size but also the extra performance as to why you'd go for the iMac. sadly that's no longer the case and Apple have effectively killed off this once beloved computer. they've also messed up the Mac Pro too IMO given they should have fused 2x Ultras together, but my guess is there that the extra grunt didn't scale up very well.
I would buy iMac if it has 32 inch touchscreen (big ipad with MacOS) having Max or Ultra chip.
None of the M-series machines are future proofed. They all need a lot more ram. The higher the M-number the more ram they need that’s why we are getting mixed results. Try comparing an M2 to an M3 with double ram then results will be consistent.
Really helpful video.
- I love the iMac. I’ve owned almost every model from the start.
I do professional work, video and graphic…. My iMacs have proven to be very capable. Now my 27” intel is getting fussy. So I find this review helpful in my research to upgrade.
I really don’t want a studio set up if possible.
- So many comments here seem to rip on Apple. Kind of strange coming from tech savvy people - especially the negativity about the base model configurations. It’s silly. The online purchase options naturally default to the least expensive configuration but Apple could very easily default to the most expensive setup as well. Then the purchaser could strip off what they don’t want.
I guess it bugs some that Apple products are higher end $$$ but that’s life.
Has anyone noticed that the temperature of the iMac with the M3 chip is significantly higher? Currently, I'm registering 70°C (140°F) while using Safari to play this video, with no other apps open. On my MacBook Air with the M1 chip using Android Studio at this time, I'm registering 38°C (100°F).
For a product gearded towards families that aren't tech savvy and middle/high school kids, with 16GB it is fine. The ports and mouse are bad points, but definitely not deal breakers. I'm more worried about it not being 27-inchs for adults. Short women love it generally speaking.
There is greater value in the M2 mac mini with 16GB of RAM if the parent is willing to shop around, but Apple knows that audience is too lazy to shop around.
Watching this on my M3 iMac.
I really enjoy watching your videos always exciting and informative keep up the good work.
I think there are reviewers who rate a product like the iMac based on what they would like it to be and not what it actually is. I would have liked a 27-inch, screen, but Apple doesn't want it to compete with its own 27-inch studio display. I've also read complaints about the price Apple charges for upgrades. No surprise here as Apple products are not cheap. I've also read complaints that there are no options for the M3 Pro or Max. Hey, this product is not intended for power users, but its intended users will definitely be satisfied with it.
The spam comments are getting out of hand. A keyword removal would take care of this latest rush of spam could remove them. Great review by the way, I’ve been waiting for this one and was skeptical of all the previous reviews of the M3 iMac from other reviewers simply because they didn’t quite make sense. Thank you for this review.
i lost my password to open my brand new m3 imac.... no you tube vids out yet to help...can anyone help me?? Please???
Bring back the 32" version with an OLED screen!
This is the most cognitive dissonance ive seen. "Surfing the net is a 17% increase performance making it the fastest surfing we've tested"... to video edit was about 20 seconds faster on the old Pro which isnt that noticeable. Surfing relies more on webpages available so if a website is changing their layout for new sales or products, then youll be limited to the servers speeds they can crank out, not your fiber optic internet company. Having slower renders and dropping from 27" to 24" is going to impact people more than just "it actually performs slightly better than the old 9ne its replacing, but 24" isnt that big of a differeence. I used to have a 23" monitor. Then a 25" photo editing monitor. Now q 32" 4K 160hz miniLED monitor. I couldnt go back to 25" or even a 27".
We need challenges with iMac 2021 and iMac 2023
I can’t help but laugh at the porno name of the GPU test PARTY TUG!
I hate the white bezels on the Apple silicon iMacs. I hope Apple eventually brings back the black bezels.
As many people already mentioned, there really needs to be a 27 inch version of this. Also the fact that they didnt update the mouse and keyboard really triggered some people.. xD
The True Top of the Line 5K iMac, is the 4TB or 8TB SSD, 64 or 128 GB of RAM, and the 5700XT Graphics Card w/16GB of RAM! This iMac, overall, with a Bigger Screen, a better Screen with Nano-Texture and 16GB of RAM, and you’ll notice a better overall Computing experience, especially with Ethernet, over the M3 iMac with Wi-Fi.
Why would I sacrifice real estate on my 27 inch iMac that I upgrade with 32gb of Ram and 2 TB of storage.
This new IMac is too small screen and base price models do not offer anywhere near the storage space for what you pay. Wouldn’t bother. Wait for the new 27 inch or anticipated 32 inch screen
I hardly use my old 27 inch Intel iMac. I'm strictly laptops these days.
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Cons of new imac: 1. ugly white bezels 2. 25% less screen space. Pros of the intel one: 1. screen is basically the same quality as top of the line Apple displays 2. you can upgrade ssd + ram instead of living with 256 gigs (which is not enough for any production these days) 3. performance is not that far below 4. significantly lower price 5. it can normally run windows and play normal games with adequate stable fps, not like emulated, staggering, golden M3 Max
Even if the new M3 iMac with 24GB of RAM is faster than a maxed-out iMac Pro or 2020 Intel iMac, there are still 5 things that make people stick with their Intel Macs.
1. Screen size - 27 inches was basically what everybody liked and wanted. The old iMac's had near-perfect displays.
2. Memory - The iMac Pro could be upgraded to 512 GB of RAM. Now, the new iMac can only go to 24. Pros that want the all-in-one design can't use the iMac as their machine because of this limitation.
3. Storage - The 2020 Intel iMac could go to 8TB of storage. However, now we are limited to 2TB
4. Ports - The new iMacs lack an SD port and USB-A.
5. Price- If the new M3 can beat the 2017 iMac Pro and 2020 27-inch iMac, it still doesn't matter because people can get a Mac Studio or MBP. But the reason why the higher-end iMacs were so popular was because they made that power affordable. The Mac Studio base model + the standard display are as expensive as the highest-end iMacs were.
The solution? An iMac Pro. 27-inch screen size, SD card reader on the side like the headphone jack. Thicker design for USB-A and the 27-inch screen, and to accommodate options for an M3 Pro and M3 Max chip to get Pro levels of RAM and storage again.
The answer is so simple. These 5 reasons are why the iMac M3 is a bad choice. Not because of the reasons you listed. Why should I spend 3300 USD for a maxed-out M3 iMac when I could spend 3500 for a maxed-out iMac Pro on eBay? And then go a step further and get a maxed-out 2020 27-inch on eBay with nano-texture glass for just 4500 for a near-mint condition model? The iMac Pro will save Apple. But they keep waiting and waiting...
I realized mid-convo with someone else in convo with, that the 24inch is what the iMac's were originally ( the white iMac and the first aluminum ones that followed )
I came from the 27in and got used to this 24in size within a few hours ( I changed the display setting to more space and it is like my 5k was honestly )
In terms of power, I produce music and do some basic video editing and how my previous 5k was to this, this one is so damn smooth, I'm beyond happy.
I went for the highest model because I'm not one who likes to change machines often. If it can go the distance, I'm happy and if my previous 2015 5k was still working like new, even up to now, then this one should of course exceed it, and that will make anyone happy in the long run.
Oh and those extra ports you mention, you can easily get a dock ( ones that blend with the stand so it looks like its a part of it ) for about a hundred bucks.
I also got a thunderbolt enclosure with a 1TB SSD that matched Apple's internal drive of over 3000gb read and write, so the space issue can be resolved as well easily. ( this I wish i knew before purchasing the iMac, I would have gotten a minimal storage and higher on the external )
But yea.
Still can’t beat the 27inch iMac or iMac Pro in gaming so I’ll stick with my iMac Pro.
Now quit playing around with a browser and use it for what it was intended, games. Resident Evil 4 came out yesterday, lets see some benchmarks!
That’s ironic, thought Apple was not meant for games, guess they changed their minds. Anyways, my 8gb windows low-to-mid range laptop can run it fine, so I don’t get your point
How can something so thin survive a classroom environment?
Sorry if my question has an obvious answer but I would still like to do it, I do music production and I have a 2011 imac with 32 gigabytes of ram, it works very well for the year it is, I could really continue doing what I do with that old imac , but I already feel that I need a little more, jumping to an M3 I imagine that it would be incredibly enough and more, I also want to do animation in 2D and 3D in an artistic way, where if I suffer with my old imac it is with my 500 megabytes of video. Thank you if anyone takes the time to respond, greetings, very good video.
I wont be buying one until Apple enters the 20 20's and makes it a 27" display and stops ripping its customers off, by charging £200 per measly 8GB ram and £200 per measly 512gb storage, when you can buy 8gb of Ram from any other source for £20 and get an 8TB drive for £300 !
If they didn't charge exorbitant prices for Ram and storage, and weren't so blatantly stingy with things like withholding now standard 27" displays, Nobody would have anything to complain about and Apple would sell out !
Here's an idea. Get a 24GB RAM variant and compare it to the maxed-out iMac Pro. (Intel Xeon 18 Core, AMD Vega 64X, 256GB Memory, 4TB SSD). There are some reports that the iMac Pro is slower than the 2020 Intel 27-inch iMac, so if we test these two, we could find out that the M3 iMac is Apple's fastest ever! Who knows? Only one way to find out!