Amazon has padded reviews. Look for items with a lot of reviews and ignore the positive comments. Only read the negative reviews to see what things people complain about. Some stuff will have nothing to do with quality but you will need to decifer what is relevant to you. Positive reviews don't mean anything unfortunately. If a product is good people will state that in the negative comments while they describe why they left a bad review. I buy more than a hundred items off Amazon a year and rarely make mistakes I find this method helpful as a consumer in day when reviews have so many motives to sound a certain way and you don't really know who is behind them.
Good for you! Manufacturers used to be proud of their work. Vendors were proud to sell a good product. It is never wrong to return something that is wrong. Kudos on the video. I'm subscribing, now.
I got some of these bits quite a while ago but haven't used them so it's to late to send them back so I'm stuck with them. Thanks for the video; I'll look at my bits tomorrow and hopefully they are not bad like yours.
So glad I found this this video, Thank you Ron. I've wasted the better of the day looking comparing & reading reviews on these Self Centering Hinge Sighting drills because I really need one to help me remove a hex flange bolt that broke off at 40 lb ft torque. What Bezo does he copies other people's gadgets and has them produced on the cheap. I don't know where to get these and the person who made the video on using these self centering guides didn't recommend a brand or seller, so I'm stuck. Its a shame that too many don't takes pride in what they sell, so long as they sell & make money.
I bought something very similar from Amazon and they are fine. I've got very poor eyesight and these self-catering bits really help to get the holes positioned just right.
According to Amazon these are sold by Saiper(whoever that is) and "fulfilled" by Amazon. If you go to the "Saiper Storefront" you will find their reviews. The strange thing is, they only have 38 in the past 12 months.............. and they are are all 100%. I would have thought that in a year they would have had more than that. Their storefront has a lot of cheap drilling, screwing, sanding and routing type things. And.......... few weird items that just don't fit in. Lee Valley is your friend I believe on this one Ron. JimE
3 years after you video I ordered a bunch of self-centering bits from Jeff Bezos. The Bosch bits were great, but everything else had poor machine work. Honestly, I'm surprised considering how easy the machine work should be on these bits.
Yes you are correct, let them first to see what they have to say, and what they will do about it! To me they look that they been used before ! or very old stock!
I’d hate to see the end product of the person who used them. Hopefully they weren’t used to install door hinges because someone may be trapped inside their house!
Good video. Some stuff you get on amazon is good, most all of it is fast, some of the stuff is super cheap and super low/bad quality. Hope you get good stuff next time. :)
Smart decision! I'd look for a different brand. You get what you pay for --- usually anyway. www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/drill-bits/40239-hex-shank-centering-bits?item=04J0420&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhvf6BRCkARIsAGl1GGiz3QRuZj7S8kHNIo1-UUfJD-XFPh5E99CmBv_RU3z6urvoYIAyukAaAiLhEALw_wcB
I'm in the same broken boat. Sheared 9.8 hex head flange bolt in an upper intake on my light truck. Check this out and try getting more info, its a great video czcams.com/video/dJfkCj3FWBs/video.html
Got the magnifying glass and checked mine they were all ok except the drill bits were only carbon steel no real problem I will replace them as they wear out. You certainly got a bad batch.
That's the problem with all these cheap low quality tools that flood the market most are not worth buying as there is no craftsmanship or QC in this junk, I have bits and such that are like 20 years old and are not mega costly but all are true and machined really well that was then, now it seems that so much made today is junk even from companies like General that had some decent stuff way back but, but now it seems that quality has dropped a lot and they are now making there stuff in China, why as it used to be decent for the money but now not so much, so it seems gone are the times of buying tools that were at one time great yet did not cost an arm and a leg, now though even things that you would expect to be made with quality in mind are just not. I just purchased a specialty 15.5 mil bit from amazon and while ya I new it wouldn't be the best I did expect it to at least be straight how do they even machine a lopsided bit with today's machining capabilities i know a bit this thick did not just bend on its own, that's sad just no QC at all and it was like $15 bucks so I expected better quality then if I purchased some really cheap $5 dollar crap which I do not do, but it seems that so much of these tools are built like 5 dollar crap ... some stuff is prety good but its like finding a needle in a haystack, I have purchased a few good tools on amazon but it seems for the most part they sell junk when it comes to tools. I think these days we must all stick to a few HQ brands if we can find em because as I have said so many trusted brands are no longer made in the USA and even some German brands are not even made in Germany anymore. So buyer beware. Good luck I actually have a set of self centering drills made by General a few years back in the USA and those actually work great and are well machined no burs or junk metal as seen on the ones you purchased, maybe look at General with those you only get 2 but they are HQ.
Any time you pay that little for a set of self centering drill bits you should be expecting to be disappointed. You get what you pay for,buy Montana brand,made in America made with top quality.
Amazon has padded reviews. Look for items with a lot of reviews and ignore the positive comments. Only read the negative reviews to see what things people complain about. Some stuff will have nothing to do with quality but you will need to decifer what is relevant to you. Positive reviews don't mean anything unfortunately. If a product is good people will state that in the negative comments while they describe why they left a bad review. I buy more than a hundred items off Amazon a year and rarely make mistakes I find this method helpful as a consumer in day when reviews have so many motives to sound a certain way and you don't really know who is behind them.
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Good for you! Manufacturers used to be proud of their work. Vendors were proud to sell a good product. It is never wrong to return something that is wrong. Kudos on the video. I'm subscribing, now.
Thank you for commenting Bobby 🙂
"I don't like returning stuff." They bank on that. Jeff Bezos appreciates your business, please come again lol
Haha! 😁
Thanks for sharing these were in to buy box for and upcoming project!
Hope you have better luck than I did Paul. 🤞
I got some of these bits quite a while ago but haven't used them so it's to late to send them back so I'm stuck with them. Thanks for the video; I'll look at my bits tomorrow and hopefully they are not bad like yours.
Maybe you will be lucky 🤞
So glad I found this this video, Thank you Ron. I've wasted the better of the day looking comparing & reading reviews on these Self Centering Hinge Sighting drills because I really need one to help me remove a hex flange bolt that broke off at 40 lb ft torque. What Bezo does he copies other people's gadgets and has them produced on the cheap. I don't know where to get these and the person who made the video on using these self centering guides didn't recommend a brand or seller, so I'm stuck. Its a shame that too many don't takes pride in what they sell, so long as they sell & make money.
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I bought something very similar from Amazon and they are fine. I've got very poor eyesight and these self-catering bits really help to get the holes positioned just right.
Glad yours are okay. 👍
Where did you buy the outside folding hinge? This is perfect for a project, but I’m not finding this kind of hinge, thanks
I saw no hinges in this video. Could you please clarify?
According to Amazon these are sold by Saiper(whoever that is) and "fulfilled" by Amazon. If you go to the "Saiper Storefront" you will find their reviews. The strange thing is, they only have 38 in the past 12 months.............. and they are are all 100%. I would have thought that in a year they would have had more than that.
Their storefront has a lot of cheap drilling, screwing, sanding and routing type things. And.......... few weird items that just don't fit in.
Lee Valley is your friend I believe on this one Ron. JimE
Yes! www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=71438
3 years after you video I ordered a bunch of self-centering bits from Jeff Bezos. The Bosch bits were great, but everything else had poor machine work. Honestly, I'm surprised considering how easy the machine work should be on these bits.
I have been very pleased with Bosch tools. 👍
Yes you are correct, let them first to see what they have to say, and what they will do about it! To me they look that they been used before ! or very old stock!
Just very poor quality Kwstas 😒
I’d hate to see the end product of the person who used them. Hopefully they weren’t used to install door hinges because someone may be trapped inside their house!
Never used centering bits I'm so old use the folding 6 ft ruler kidding, but thanks for sharing
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Hi Ron 5am here. Got them through a site called Wish, they have every thing but most Chinese. We have two other sites AliExpress and Lazada
Thanks Jim 🙂
Good video. Some stuff you get on amazon is good, most all of it is fast, some of the stuff is super cheap and super low/bad quality. Hope you get good stuff next time. :)
.... I certainly do agree with that Joseph 👍
One time we actually want/need
a link to the exact product....and
.... There are probably 15 vendors/
brands, of self-centering bits on amazon.
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@@roncalverley
I see they sell BOSCH, I'll bet those
will work.
Yes! I've had really good experiences with Bosch products.
Well I was going to order a set of those but not now.
Smart decision! I'd look for a different brand. You get what you pay for --- usually anyway. www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/drill-bits/40239-hex-shank-centering-bits?item=04J0420&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhvf6BRCkARIsAGl1GGiz3QRuZj7S8kHNIo1-UUfJD-XFPh5E99CmBv_RU3z6urvoYIAyukAaAiLhEALw_wcB
Hello mate, great video ! What size Hinge sighting drill do i need to drill out an M8x25mm bolt ? Thanks in advance
I'm sorry friend, but I don't know. 😐
@@roncalverley No problem Ron.
I'm in the same broken boat. Sheared 9.8 hex head flange bolt in an upper intake on my light truck. Check this out and try getting more info, its a great video czcams.com/video/dJfkCj3FWBs/video.html
Hi Ron, you hit the nail on the head, you get what you pay for and that wasn’t much. Quality at $18 dollars for a set, don’t think so.
I took a chance and lost. You'd think I'd know better by now.
Ron Calverley Don’t worry Ron we’ve all done that ☹️
Got the magnifying glass and checked mine they were all ok except the drill bits were only carbon steel no real problem I will replace them as they wear out. You certainly got a bad batch.
I'd think that carbon steel should last you a lifetime if used only in wood. What brand? Could you send link please? 🙂
These self-centering bits refused to help you because there was nothing in it for them! LOL
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That's the problem with all these cheap low quality tools that flood the market most are not worth buying as there is no craftsmanship or QC in this junk, I have bits and such that are like 20 years old and are not mega costly but all are true and machined really well that was then, now it seems that so much made today is junk even from companies like General that had some decent stuff way back but, but now it seems that quality has dropped a lot and they are now making there stuff in China, why as it used to be decent for the money but now not so much, so it seems gone are the times of buying tools that were at one time great yet did not cost an arm and a leg, now though even things that you would expect to be made with quality in mind are just not.
I just purchased a specialty 15.5 mil bit from amazon and while ya I new it wouldn't be the best I did expect it to at least be straight how do they even machine a lopsided bit with today's machining capabilities i know a bit this thick did not just bend on its own, that's sad just no QC at all and it was like $15 bucks so I expected better quality then if I purchased some really cheap $5 dollar crap which I do not do, but it seems that so much of these tools are built like 5 dollar crap ... some stuff is prety good but its like finding a needle in a haystack, I have purchased a few good tools on amazon but it seems for the most part they sell junk when it comes to tools.
I think these days we must all stick to a few HQ brands if we can find em because as I have said so many trusted brands are no longer made in the USA and even some German brands are not even made in Germany anymore. So buyer beware. Good luck I actually have a set of self centering drills made by General a few years back in the USA and those actually work great and are well machined no burs or junk metal as seen on the ones you purchased, maybe look at General with those you only get 2 but they are HQ.
Yes, It's a very sad commentary on our ethics these days, that's for sure. Thanks for your, all too true, opinion! 👍
Best of luck with amazon.
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Amazon has some amazing
products, and some misses,
I would have liked to know which
brand/seller this was , so I could
avoid it.
Used or very very poor quality. I would definitely be wanting my money back. See you this afternoon .
Yes, poor quality! They are going back this afternoon already. See you later Billy 🙂
Hello Winnipeg, my old home town
Hi Jim 🙂👍
Ron Calverley I found you Iive in NK I lived on Edison fora year in the 60s
@@jimmcdiarmid7308 I've lives in Winnipeg since 1965. A lotta years have slipped away, but can't complain.
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Made sure use them first them return
Any time you pay that little for a set of self centering drill bits you should be expecting to be disappointed. You get what you pay for,buy Montana brand,made in America made with top quality.
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I got the same set, junk. Just brought a set through Lee valley. They seem better
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Wow! The bits are garbage; I don’t know how they did such a bad job! Ron, let us know when you find some good ones.
I might just end up using my homemade one. It was awkward but at least it was centered. We'll see. Thanks for commenting Ali 👍
it is 20:11 as i comment this, in the NL
Well, have a good sleep Wil. See you tomorrow 🙂
Cheap stuff on amzon
Why purchase from Amazon when you can get person to person sales assistance at your local business's.
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They’re always out of stock
@@jimmcdiarmid7308 I know right.
Have to find the item locally
Not in central
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THEY ARE MADE IN CHINA , LOOK FOR U.S.A MADE !!!
Yes, I was thinking that too 👍
supercow61 mine are Chinese order here in Thailand they work great. Can’t buy US as taxes too dear
Stop complaining about junk you buy.
YOU GET WHAT PAY FOR!!!!!!!!! $18.
1 good vix bit will cost at least $18.
"YOU GET WHAT PAY FOR" 👍