Which Sci-Fi Faction has the BEST POWER ARMOR? | Halo, Star Wars, WH40k, Fallout
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From Space Marines, to Spartans and their Mjolnir suits, to the Fallout universe and its power armor, to Star Wars Legends Lore and the Dark Trooper project we look at POWER ARMOR on today's episode of Science Fiction Factions Compared
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But I will check it out to support you ;)
EckhartsLadder Spartan 4's had the most augmentations out of all the other Spartan generations, the main disadvantage they had against the other Spartan generations was raw physiological strength which was supposed to be compensated by the mjolnir gen 2 platform. They also were well trained being instructed by Spartan 2's and 3's, which supplemented the skills they had developed as soldiers before being recruited into the Spartan program.
EckhartsLadder I expected Fallout to be last simply because while impressive compared to the rest it's not that advanced
+EckhartsLadder
Here's what you should do, EckhartsLadder.
*1. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ship (Star Wars)*
*2. Imperial II Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Romulan D'deridex-class, B-type Warbird (Star Trek)*
*3. Tempest Shadow (My Little Pony: The Movie) vs Darth Vader (Star Wars)*
*4. Darth Sidious/Palpatine (Star Wars) vs Mewtwo (Pokemon)*
*5. Leatherhead (TMNT 2003) vs Wampa (Star Wars) aka "Could Leatherhead protect Luke against a Wampa?"*
*6. What if Master Splinter (TMNT 2003) was a Jedi?*
*7. Cyberdyne Systems/Skynet (The Terminator franchise) vs Umbrella Corporation (Resident Evil franchise)*
Please do these ones.
Konrad were you at
Best armor is plotarmor
the Rebellion approves
OP Physics “I’ve been looking forward to this.”
Exception if you live in the Game of Thromes world. Plot armor can and will fail whenever a fat, bearded man from New Jersey decides it does.
Andy B I'm done best comment ever had me cracking up for a minute straight
The Last Jedi anyone?
People don't understand that the 40k universe takes place 40,000 years in the future, in a near constant war. Fighting much larger enemies, of course it's "OP"
@Dennis Galindez Not really, since in 40k they are fighting other superman and cancel each other out.
@Dennis Galindez What is this heresy?
@Dennis Galindez untell you realise the things they fight can one shot them with ease
Yeah well starwars, Star trek, Halo techs and the like seems super advanced too so that's where they probably got them. Although I do think they're op and most universe prolly can't fight them
Warhammer 40k is "That Kid".
You know, that one kid you played with all those years back when you were a kid who would make up all these different powers on the fly to come out on top in every "fight"?
That's what 40k is. OP, boring, and with hardly any (if at all) stakes.
And that's why whenever 40k comes up in a comparison video, I wonder what in the fictional world can it honestly be compared to.
"But of course the standard person can't wear mjolnir armour but that is true for every piece on this list" meanwhile a housewife lawyer just hopes in a suit of power armour after being frozen for 200 years and fights an overgrown lizard.
Yeah like i'm pretty sure anyone can use Fallout Power Armor just probably not very effectively.
@@shotguntony4730 the only downside of it all is fusion core management
In which cases doesnt even make sense since moving the armor takes energy. And the user is using the armor the same way a traines one is using it, moving and shooting. Or maybe the powerarmor doesnt work like how a car works and is much more complex and has a certain rythm to it to avoid tge energy consumption rate to skyrocket. Neverthless why create that armor with that con during the resource wars? Or is it because every power armor frame left in the setting of fallout is damaged in a way that it requires a certain rythm, same way an assaultron is much more slower compared to its golden days and how a sentry bot has weaker armor compared to its golden days. Bethesda more world building in the next fallout franchise pls.
Edit: typo
@@tu4i775 Because in truth they don’t actually use up the fusion course that fast a fusion core can usually power a suit of armor for about 200 years
In fallout 1 to new vegas you needed a special perk called power armour training to use power armour, this was changed in fallout 4
Maybe power armor training is when you don’t need a fusion cell to wear power armor
Fallout power armor wasn't about protection. It's was about giving the firepower of a small squad to a single soldier.
Yes we do our research :D
And becoming the anti tank unit as it could carry bigger guns and probably were a hard counter to tanks in the battle of archorage because tanks couldn't really fit in alaskan terrain and thus america didnt put tanks in the battle and instead replaced them with power armor
The chinese might have also used chemical warfare in some situations and spammed artillery and someone in power armor can survive both
I sense heresy
Sam dale GET THE BOLTER GUN BROTHER
FOR THE EMPEROR!
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*Glassing intensifies
@@hugoskirfors1442 READY THE CYCLONIC TORPEDOES!
"Spartan 4's are just as effective as spartan 2's" then why did Locke get his ass kicked by a near 50 year old spartan?
Master Chief ain't your typical Spartan.
They were also both wearing Gen 2 armor
Because Chief is more experienced. That’s the main factor in a fight. If you put two boxers in a ring, one of them more experienced, chances are the more experienced fighter will win because they have more muscle memory.
Spartan 4s are not Spartans in my book
Spartan 3s and 2s had actually spartan training where as a normal person could just say he's loyal and he'd get new organs and armor
Spartan 2s are on a completely different level. Also the fight should have ended a lot more quickly for Locke, because canon masterchief is taught in like twenty martial arts, so the fight would be quite kick-heavy. Also, Spartans age a lot more slowly. They can continue fighting at the age of 100 (for Spartan IV), and have a life expectancy of 200 years. That isn’t even shedding light on the Spartan IIs, however.
As much as I love Halo and prefer it over 40k, 40k armor does everything The Mjolnir armor does but better and so i must say this is Heresy
I only like 40k for the memes, so this is perfect lol
I disagree. I'm a Huge 40k fan, I barely know shit about Halo, yes a Space Marine would Curb stomp A Spartan... But Space Marine Armor relies heavily on the actual soldier, It can do almost anything a Spartan can because of that. But take the Space Marine out of the Armor and it's only real advantage is Durability.
I also kinda wanna take that back.... Because Even if your armor has all the bits and pieces, would it really be better If your Spartan armor gets turned to Ash, while Space Marine Armor is still basically unscathed? Dunno.... Depends really.
@@mrbarefootbogan6254 but mjolnir has energy shields and works far better for the unaugmented. compare an inquisitor in aquila with a spartan IV with mjolnir gen 2 and you basically have the matchup
@Solarwolf lets not bring shields Into it. Void Shields in Warhammer 40k can Tank Orbital Bombardment, and even survive Nukes. It's not a fair Match up. Also I've seen Mjolnir Energy shields get 1 shot by 50 cals.
Power armour?
*Laughs in squad of plasma guns
*Laughs in heavy bolter*
jaelee1996 *laughs in volkite*
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If you wanna make things really wild, throw the nanosuit from crysis into the mix.
What about Warframe or the suits from Edge of Tomorrow.
oooh.. I say that the nanosuit would take the second place spot, potentially even tie for first with the active came features.
John Doughnuts The Warframe isn't powered armor
Yes it is
oh thanks did not know that but it's a form of hi-tech armor right?
I’d only trust Space Marine armor to protect my family 👌🏻
The Emperor's protection should be enough
@nerd Surfer no, protection in 40k isn't anything special, its all pretty much the same just named differently, you got your energy shields, you got your super metals, but it's all pretty much the same.
Spartan.
@@GiRR007 that is because you are a faithless heretic
@@GiRR007 that's what a faithless heretic would say *slowly pulls bolter*
40k armor is basically an excuse to have a playable god character
40k logic: If everybody is a God, nobody is.
40K = Everything, but Extra
It's the best part and it's the worst part
Naaa man BLYAT ARMOR is STRONGER then the 40k armor.
BLYAT ARMOR OR STALIN'S BLYAT ARMOR IS THE GOD OF ALL ARMOR!
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Do you really research WH40K? because you kinda miss some features that their armor has.
I mean, he also says that Mjolnir likely isn't great past it's energy shielding. It is legitimately bullet proof. Not bullet resistant like modern day body armor, I mean you can't kill the person inside with bullets.
Vortigon23 and I wouldn’t exactly call bolter round bullets more like mini rockets
@@sorcererberoll4641 I mean, I wasn't debating who would win between the two. But bullets have much more penetration than rockets, and the explosion would do Jack shit to the Spartan's energy sheilding.
Vortigon23 you should really just look up what a bolter round does before you talk.
@@sunniestbro1064 Responding to what another dude said, not on me to look it up. Burden of proof falls on those claiming something as fact, not the one refuting the claim.
Custodies armor > every armor
I know this is late but:
One true armor (God Emperor’s power armor) trumps all armor.
@@yeboi2379 you're not wrong.
@@yeboi2379 Iron man Uru armor or Endo-Sym armor are pretty ridiculous ridiculous.
You didn't cover the autosensorium features of a later mark Astartes power armor helmet! It has a lot of the same traits of the MJOLNIR armor as well as some others, activated by thought-impulse.
Plus the built in life support system that automatically releases pain meds and monitors vitals, how each suit is grounded so electrical based attacks do less damage, the extreme temperature management system
Jacob Hanlon Space Marines have built in life support. Redundancy is key to success.
Rahul Thakur yeah it’s really easy to tell that he only has a surface level of understanding of 40k.
They forget that there’s the motherfuckin emperor that does whatever they want.
That only helps if a space marine would actually wear it ;)
I’m sorry i will fight forever about my favourite being Halo...
But an Astarte’s armour is better. It just is. Everything is better. No contest.
Both armor is powerful but even if the WH40k powerarmor is incredibly advanced and powerful,the Halo Spartan power armor is far more agile and less bulky
@Dix Insider spartans and space marines do very different jobs so comparing them is stupid to begin with
@Jinjyo ni Shoubu or ancient human tech
Jinjyo ni Shoubu yeah, pretty ridiculous stuff. That and the fact forerunners were 12 feet tall to begin with.
Jinjyo ni Shoubu if you reread his comment then you’d realize he wasn’t responding to you.
"Is a space marine deadlier than a spartan?" Yes...why is that a question
Not particularly no.
@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 oh then please enlighten me on how the worst super solider ever is better than a space marine
@@DCPTF2 spartan of 180kg has about the same strength multiplier as a SM, 4x body weight. So a SM of 320kg can manipulate 1350kg. Both tactical astartes armor and mjolnir gen 1 multiply strength by x2. However gen2 mjolnir multiplies ckoser to x4. Giving a 180kg spartan in gen2 mjolnir a lift of 2800kg as opposed to a SM's 2700. A spartan can run at 100kmph and sprint in excess of 100kmph, as opposed to your average SM speed of 80kmph. A spartans bones are layered with nano grafted ceramic, and are effectively indestructible by newtonian forces (torque included). They have enhanced night vision to appx gen 5 night vision (put a single lightbulb in a gigantic cavern, and they see well enough to coordinate a multipronged assault on rafters using hand signals [just on the bio enhancement, no mjol ir boosting], they also have i think 100-200/20 vision (they could read off a sheet of paper at 100 to 200 feet)). They are trained from a younger age than SM's and are practically genetically perfect individuals. They have literally been in their fireteams since day1 of training, which puts them on teamwork parity with SM squads that have been doingntheir schtick for 50 odd years. Spartans are trained something inbetween a SM and a commissar, and are capable of leading mixed squads. All in all, they're about on par with a SM of the same age, in some cases better.
@@DCPTF2 and other than all that, spartans are way easier to make, and almost as effective.
@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 based on the Spartans Track record i would hardly call then as effective as a Space marine the Astartes conquer planets a meanwhile your average spartan can barley hold off an invasion till they can run away, and on the subject of traning (as for your other comment i will add it here to save space) unlike Spartans who are just given their amour after a few years of training (especailly Gen 4s, unless you want to argue they are as powerful as a Space Marine) Space Marines Train for decades in the Scout companies, the Assault company and Devastator Company before they are allowed to join their Brothers in the Tactical Squads and most of this training unlike the Spartans is done out in the field where there is a high risk of Death, in the subject of Armour speeds a spartan may be faster but without a fancy shield they can be taken down by standard rifles (a good example is Cat from reach one shot and she was dead) meanwhile a standard suit of Mark VII Aquila armour can tank most forms of small medium and some Heavy weapons i doubt a small speed lose is going to affect a Space marine much.
Here is my personal opinion,
Pitting fallout against the other universes what flat out unfair. The fallout universe is more advanced than our world yes, but looking at all the other universes they are little bugs. Fallouts power armor is very advanced for the game but compared to the power armor they have in star wars or halo makes it look like a old world artifact (which it already is mind you)
I understand their may have been complications between not having another universe to base it off of and the fact that fallout is one of the most popular gaming franchises but it just doesn't make sense to me.
not that advaned in compairson there computers and aircraft suck
Yet even though fallout power armour is basic in comparison it can survive tank rounds , artillery shells, plasma weapons laser weapons and railgun fire just to put that in retrospect most star wars alloys/armor droids included cant survive slug rounds aka bullets and even spartan and space marine armour takes damage from the same thing so I think it a fair comparison but I think it should have been higher on the list.
for the other universe he could've chosen the marine from starcraft
They're also not spacefaring. Don't put spacefaring races against non-spacefaring races.
I totally argree with that
You're right, Space Marine armor doesn't restrict their movement, it ENHANCES it.
Unfortunately, I have to acknowledge that comparing any universe to 40k is trivial, the scale and power the lore encompasses is just a totally different level than others.
Everything 40k is about survival of mankind against enemies these other universes would just be obliterated in facing...
40K power armor is vastly superior in every way, let alone Terminator armor. I mean, tank? How about a walking weapons platform with the firepower of a tank and the armor of a mech while still being agile enough to tear your face off.
Sure, there are enemies that tear them apart, but omg could you imagine a Tyranid Hive Fleet finding the Star Wars universe? FEEDING FRENZY!
40k is overpowered compared to others because the ENTIRE universe is on a totally incomparable scale and power to any other sci fi entity in esistence. The Imperium is "overpowered" vs Halo or Star Wars because it faces threats that would wipe out the other universes in minutes.
Just saying
Butt hurt much?
@@gabrielbrown9128 Nah, just ranting lool
Yeh space marines are faster they can run around 40-50mph compared to Spartans which I think were like 55kph. With terminstors in terms of speed, can they go really fast: yes, can they go really fast and actually stop or change direction: no, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that terminators purposefully avoid running due to how hard the suits become to maneuver but yeh space marine power armor should have been first just due to its durability.
The problem with comparing 40k to anything is that all these other sci fi universes are trying to maintain some level of realism, while 40k does whatever it wants because they're not trying to be realistic they're trying to be cool.
@@owenmclaughlin280 also 40k is set alot further into the future compared to the other factions meaning they've had longer to create this technology much of which is no longer working at its pinnacle due to people forgetting how it all works after the DAoT. But yeh it's not realistic compared to anything outside it's own universe where stuff can kill each other fairly easily.
That heresy will not be tolerated
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It was 2 years ago when both fortnite and the comunity didn't suck, so he gets a pass
Mjolnir is the funniest. Hear me out first.
Unlike the others, Mjolnir armour is directly linked to the user’s CNS, meaning that the suit can do things without the user’s thought. The problem is that the user has to manually calibrate the force put into actions, meaning that if they’re not careful, the suit could overreact to a simple task. This is what happened to the Spartans upon receiving their armour. They had no idea what to do and ended up being a bunch of children.
I shit you not the Master Chief. That’s right: GREENY MC SPACEARMOUR KNOCKED HIMSELF OUT BY SALUTING TO HARD! Also, they hadn’t calibrated shields so the Spartans slid around like they were on ice until the shields were recalibrated.
Nathan Kingham he didn't knock himself out when he saluted, he just hit his head. Also, the Spartans didn't get shield until Mark V.
So'tel Tallas well that’s what I heard. It’s still a funny idea to think the most badass man in fiction almost knocked himself out by saluting.
Nathan Kingham it was funny to read though in the book.
I could've sworn that was only a problem with the early Spartan armor
Nathan Kingham You're wrong.
It's 40k... It's always 40K.
Red Cap- Despite the fact that I enjoy Halo more, it's pretty much guaranteed that 40K wins pretty much 90% of whatever it's fighting. That's not to say everyone else is weak. It's because 40K makes the trade of being night undefeatable killing machines at the expense of being a fucking nightmare reality.
You can actually have moments of peace and levity in places like Halo, Star Wars and even the apocalyptic Fallout. But 40K? No. Never. There is only war. Every day, every hour, every second, is unending conflict. The reason 40K wins is because, unlike everyone else, for the last 10 000 years, no one has been able to enjoy a moment of peace. And probably never will.
No it’s not
Fallout 4 Life- You have to admit though, it's pretty hard finding something that's able to rival the sheer destructive power of 40K.
Not really because the firepower is different in alternative dimensions
A Space Marine would never lose to 20 US Soldiers with M-16s
Meanwhile, 20 NCR Troopers can beat 1 Brotherhood Paladin in the lore
(Fallout New Vegas, made by the original creators of Fallout)
I think including 40k is like putting a Spartan in medieval times is killable yes is it fair no
Putting a fully grown, healthy in his prime Spartan with full armor and weapons along with with some meth, then put him in the mediaeval times, that's a space marine 24/7 for HUNDREDS of years.
In the medieval times that probably means a Spartan would just be ruling the land and not fighting much lmao
Spartans were way b4 medieval times tho lol
@@justovia dude... Dude I hope you're not being serious, he was talking about a halo Spartan
@@Dizastermaster.
They're supposed to be excellent strategic minds.
Yeah that checks out
If I remember correctly there’s a long buried piece of Halo lore that says the Gen II Mjolnir system is actually worse than Gen I. To operate Gen I the Spartans required specially reworked and coated bone structures and neural linkages to their armor. The reaction speed and haptic response of the Gen I killed its non-spartan test pilot. So it’s abilities had to be reduced for the spartan IVs who didn’t receive the augmentations required to operate the armor in the originally intended manner. In addition it’s neural link seems to be missing on spartan IVs, leading me to believe it’s a muscular response amplification system rather than a neural response amplification system, which means slower reaction times and decreased power overall.
Jup. And I still come back to this long buried piece of lore to mourn it's loss
IKnowMyWorldWars you see this is the difference between the two universes mentalities. Halo looked at that and said well back to the drawing boards, but 40k said okay and how about we skin our super soldiers alive and to implant more interface nodes.
There was a decrease in the feedback sensitivity of the armour, but due to increasing tech its actually "exponentially" stronger in almost every way including strength multiplication. Its like having a different gear ratio, it may not accelerate as fast as gen1, but its still got more torque behind it.
@@thesocialistsarecoming8565
Even if your punch is harder it doesn't matter if you can't hit him before he hits you.
@@mikewong2440 yes? Mjolnir increases explosive strength as well, so you do move faster in it. Spartans sprint faster than space marines from 40k for instance (on average).
Warhammer 40k is like the kid you never wanted to play with because all his toys could counter all your attacks
Shadow Of Sundered Star anyone of us could make our own sci fi universe that makes wh40k look like a grain of sand.
Shadow Of Sundered Star actually the numbers are thought out and balanced it has to be because it's based on a game, it's just the numbers are scaled up and shit because it's wayyyyyyy further in the future than almost any other sci fi universe
Shadow Of Sundered Star per fall humanity also did that stuff alot in 40k
Shadow Of Sundered Star Call the C'tan, someone wants to challenge the sun eaters
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Warhammer armor does have one big weakness in my opinion, the armor is wired into the nervous system of the marine. In the novel helsreach an ork was able to take down a space marine with what was essentially an over sized taser because it wen't through the interface ports and directly into his body
Internet Zen Master and then the orc got squished by Grimaldus....
That space marine was lucky he only got zapped and not disintegrated it was ork tech afterall either its OP or useless.
there is a nother point against wh40k im highly in it. but i have to admit the sm power armor only runs at its best and only if the user is an astartes. the production of an astartes takes about 20 years of augmention and training the armor with out all the feats is just a power armor. and even the "bad" tier 4 spartans could kill a human carrying a powerarmor without the astartes updates. For example look at soroita, they are humans in power armor and get killed in thousends with ease.
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that's the same fatal flaw as Spartan arm
Wayofswords It's also one of it's biggest strengths as well. Sort of double-edged sword.
Mjolnir is also connected to the user's nervous system IIRC
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Junknutz funny but frick you. Just because your terrible at a game doesn’t mean it’s bad.
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You actually left out one of Fallout power armor’s main selling points: anybody can use it, so long as they could fit in it. Now, before anybody brings up the “training” requirement from Fallouts 3 and New Vegas, this mechanic was purely added to keep the player from easily getting access to power armor early. In the 2D Fallout games this wasn’t an issue as power armor was very rare and hard to get early, and both Fallout 4 and 76 rebalanced power armor to allow for its use early on with the tradeoffs in terms of maintenance requirements. It can also be maintained using equipment found in an automotive garage, judging by the use of an engine hoist as a ‘power armor work station’ in Fallout 4. Consequently, Fallout’s power armor is the most user-friendly set on the list.
Actually the thing of the “special training for power armor” in fallout nv and 3 its because its servo thecnology... for example. The powerarmor of the ncr dont have this servos, because its made of pieces of no longer functional t-45 d power armor suits, so you dont newd this training... but remeber that the solo survivor was a member of the us army ( if it is male) so he alteady had his training... and dont take in mind fallout 76... that game is crap... i hope that the info has helped tou
@@PatrickStarForPresident You're wrong. Know how I know you're wrong? You can find suits of the exact same suits of T-51b power armor that you can get in the first isometric games in Fallout 3, and in Fallout 1 and 2, they didn't require special training, but they do in 3. It was added solely as a game mechanic to keep you from getting access to power armor early, since you could loot power armor off of dead Brotherhood personnel pretty early on in Fallout 3, whereas in Fallouts 1 and 2, if you wanted power armor you either had to wait until the story wanted you to have it (as there were only a couple of suits, invariably in late-game locations), or if you didn't want to wait, either spec into sneaking to steal one, or be prepared for one hell of a firefight if you just wanted to take it by force.
@@z3r0_35 well yes... that is rhe teorical and real reason... im just providing you the lore reason...
@@PatrickStarForPresident And it's inconsistent even with the lore, unless you want to say that Vault 13 had Power Armor Training courses (unlikely, but not impossible), seeing as you don't have to receive training in power armor usage in the original game to wear it. In Fallout 2's case it could be handwaved as the Vault Dweller passing on his experience and training to his successors.
@@PatrickStarForPresident Actually there's a dialogue choice from Nora where she states that she was actually in the military at one point so yeah, still military trained.
space marines being inferior?
H.E.R.I.T.I.C
He said there armor not the marines themselves
*heretic, their
also corvus armor those beakies are terrible
@@dylanj950 also imperial guardmens ((though they used swarm tactics) have killed marines i wish to understand why space marine armor cannot withstand a bunch of blows from there overgrown flashlights
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Well, Im still with the Astartes power armor...
*BUT NOTHING BEATS THE FLAK ARMOR!!*
Internet Zen Master
But unlike, the Astartes power armor, our flak armor comes with the greatest combination, *balls of adamantium steel*
Except for Catachan Pattern Abbs.
Internet Zen Master
So you mean its a 50/50? Hmm...
And nothing beats the lasgun, we just use them against demigod-like creatures.
Flak armour is for going up against 88mm flak obviously. Puny 150cal space marine rounds wouldn't harm flak armour.
Laurie 40mm, its explosive rounds not slugs
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A pity about Crysis, the Nanosuit is a spectacular case of power armour.
@N-word Surfer no its tanky as hell and has hax that make it op.
It’s a pretty nice suit with abilities like stealth or durability, the big benefit being able to switch between them.
@@markss367 i've only played Crysis 1 and it was quite a while, but from what i remember its energy reserve isn't very respectable
. Utility-wise it arguably can be either #2 or #3
@@ravenousbasilisk5120 im talking about nanosuit 2 the one from c2 and 3
the nanosuit from C3 is ridiculous. Can make you literally unkillable
The Astartes is one with the machine spirit of his war gear.
There is no question that if a space marine and spartan fought a space marine would win however thats not the qustion here guys. I think it would have been better to compare the armor in its own universe rather then with each other. If thats the case then I agree compeletly that Mjolnir suits work perfectly for its setting as Space marine armor while good will regulary get pierced by bolters of their own universe which we all have to admit right now The Imeprium of Man Weaponry is a shitload more stronger then Unsc Weaponry to begin with.
Comparing it to each other I still think Space marine power armor is the best. It does everything Mjolnir does but better, minus the energy shields and AI enhancments. Not only will Space marine armor protect you better but give you more strength on top of it. The only thing i can say that Mjolnir does better is better speed but thats a little iffy as we get cases where space marines slap bolter shells out of the air in reaction time alone. The armor gives you auto targeting with weapons like bolters as we get also get scenes where space marines are also able to shoot a target miles away but also ricotchet the bolt and kill the target behind armor while at it.
Again if we are comparing it strictly according to its own setting Mjolnir hands down but When comparing it to each other I still have to give it to the Astartes Power Armor
Kevin Kye How much of that reaction time is the armour and how much of it is the marine?
Heh. I just had a glorious mental image of a Space Wolf hearing an AI in his armor talking to him.
why not *terminator armor*
Halo can keep the speed advantage, I want to be more tank.
+Kevin Kye, the armor advantage is nullified for wh40k because all of these dumb as fuck astartes are walking around WITH NO DAMN HELMETS JUST WHY, seriously I never understood, and btw you underestimate how strong spartans are XD they can lift 90 tons with their gen 2 mk6 armor on, but space marine have max feats of a 60 ton tank (can't remember if it was a predator or a land raider.)
Spartan armour massively amplified strength, chief could bench press 3 tons comfortably when he was getting used to his augments in training, when chief was 14 in fall of reach he did he bullets point blank in a training exercise and could debt/smash the trainers power armour, bear in mind this is 14 year old underdeveloped chief with no armour assists. Now we're talking about fully adapted chief fully trained and experienced he's just ridiculous in lore, also for speed Spartans can go from a standstill to 60mph Sprint almost instantly and casually flip warthogs(3tons standard model) and throw drop pods(about 2 tons) hundreds of feet plus AI assist which further increase reaction time and tactical ability e.g able to analyse targets and gather info rapidly, these reasons are why I feel spartan armour is better
It’s heretical on a level that would match the covenant’s illegal actions against the empire, which worse yet makes them belong on a cross, ave, true to Caesar.
"They shall be my finest warriors. Those man who gibe off themselve to me.
With the best armour i shall claid them an with the mightiest weapons they will be armed.
They shall have such tactics, strategies and machiens, that no foe can best them in battel.
They are my bullwork against terror. They are my Space Marines...
and they shall know no fear."
Even reading that sends chills down my spine.
The emperor's protects
Corius Farin, Primarch of the Second Legion yeah me too but I couldn’t figure out if it was the wording or the spelling
Fekhin Space Marines. And when I say that I mean that I do not like how ovverated they are. I like the normies better, such as the Imperial Guard.
People in the comments defending space marines seem to forget one thing. The armor in halo isn't as durable as space marine armor. So even though gen 4 Spartans move faster, they are less resilient to damage.
My advice for EckhartsLadder is to leave 40k alone, as it will win almost every single time. Plus he doesn't do much research on 40k.
I'm here as a neutral party but durability and pros and cons for the armors depends on many factors doesnt it like materials it's made of as well and how its implemented into the armor. Like how the bulkiness of the 40k armor and curvature allows for bullets to occasionally bounce off and it taking more damage because of that factor as well while the mjolnir armor has the bonus of everything on it being made of extremely strong metals to the point the body suit Spartans wearing being made of titanium threading meaning average or weaker types of bullets dont do as much damage as the armor piercing bullets used in the unsc. There are also other factors like how the 40k armor is good with interplanetary survival due to how they are designed to handle hazardous environments as good as they can handle normal environments as well. And the halo armor is designed to handle most if not all types of environments including zero gravity and even the vacuum of space which comes in Handy when they're in space battles against the covenant. I dont know how well 40k armor handles up to plasma and energy based weapons though so I can't judge it against halo armor though I feel like without shielding both may be near the same in weakness to plasma and energy weapons though with halo armor having shields fir their armor it allows for some extra defense against plasma and energy weapons and the materials of the armor itself allowing it to take a few extra hits or so. That's where star wars armor does come in handy as clone and storm trooper armor was designed to be effective against blaster fire so people in it can take hits and not due instantly but those armors are extreamely weak to projectile based weapons which were banned in that universe. The fallout armor was also good in the aspect of energy based attacks depending on the type of power armor. All in all I say all the armors are great in their respective universes and with halo and 40k armors being good in both their universes and each other universes depending on the scenarios they're fighting in and who theyre up against in those scenarios.
Dont quote me on too much of this though as my knowledge of all 4 subjects are fairly limited and slightly out dated as I havent gotten to read up on any new or changing lore in the past 9 months
@@valynazvalkynaz5375 A space marine in his armor is practically impossible to injure with a lasgun (a laser gun), and in order for it to injure said space marine, it would have to hit a few very small weak spots in the armor (which all armor has, ie the underarms). This is why I recommend EchartsLadder to keep 40k out of his videos, as 40k is full of insane stuff, that none of the other universes he uses can even come close to.
Imadgne DOOM (2016) or DOOM: ETERNAL VS WH40K. The DoomSlayer's armor is, for example, can be thrown into the sun, shot fifty times with a small scale nuke, punched bg Satan, and you'd barley scratch the damn thing.
Well, lore wise. If the armor was that strong in-game, than it would be a little less challenging.
Nixullium that’s only the armour though
Mjolnir beating Astartes armour? Are you drunk?
Nothing beats the power of the Astartes Pattern Power Armour.
The protective advantages alone, are so much more superior, that it is not even funny. Not to mention the myrriad of other benefits that the armour brings to the wearer.
Not to mention Terminator armour either.
Indeed. Tactical Dreadnought Armour is even more advanced. With far surperior Auger arrays and auspex than even regular Astartes Pattern Power Armour.
And not to mention the protective capabilities that make even the regular power armour look positively flimsy in comparison.
Mount an Absolo-pattern Assault Cannon on that suit and Emperor have mercy on those Spartans.
What I think was meant was that while an Astartes would beat a Spartan simply because they are better warriors overall, the Mjolnir can turn a normal human into a super soldier, while an Astartes has to be genetically modified to use his power armour to it's full potential.
Power Armour in 40k without Black Carapace in 40k is clunky and slow. Sure it can take a lot of punishment, but it is no where near as good with a normal human in it rather than an Astartes.
Honestly, if you look into the lore of Crysis and the implications that the Nanosuit 2.0+ carries... That thing is so advanced and capable that it's frankly scary. The armor is almost alive and is evolving every time it's damaged. It can repair itself. It's a walking electronic warfare suite that can hack into virtually anything given enough time. Cloaking, enhanced strength, capability to move in zero-G, its own oxygen supply... It's frankly amazing tech.
But the horror, man... Poor Alcatraz
@Psychometrics
Honestly, the tech that humanity had during the Dark Age of Technology was so advanced that even the Eldar and Orks didn't mess with humanity (and the few times they did it supposedly didn't end well for them). To give you an idea, the Adeptus Mechanicus has a ship that is from the Dark Age of Technology (and controlled by a sentient AI that is just sort of letting humanity use it at the moment) called the "Speranza" which is an Ark Mechanicus exploratory vessel. It has forging capabilities that put an Imperium forge world, even Mars, to shame. It was able to destroy an Eldar cruiser. The first shot (...which was a micro-black hole, I might add) missed because a Farseer on the Eldar cruiser had a vision of their own death. So the Speranza, on its own, *_transported the Eldar ship back in time AND space to its previous location so it would be destroyed._* And, thus, the Farseer didn't see *_that coming._*
If humanity still had DAoT tech in the 41st millennium, basically nothing except perhaps Chaos (which was the likely downfall of humanity by making the Men of Iron go rogue since Chaos can and do infect computer systems - there's entire parts of Mars just infected with rogue war machines that are like 20,000 years old and things laying dormant that, trust me, you want to remain dormant) could stop us. Orks? They were already kept in check in the DAoT. Same goes for the Eldar. Necrons? Outside of warp nonsense DAoT humanity was far more advanced. Tyranids? Gone.
The only thing that the Eldar have/had over humanity is the webway. And it's not quite clear if that's because humanity couldn't figure it out (hell, even the Emperor tried and failed) or if we just preferred warp travel since it's more versatile.
@@matchesburn I disagree with Necrons, they still would be better in terms of technology. The standard issue weapon for necron trooper is one of the most deadly weapons in existance,capable of shooting beams that dismember molecules by severing atomical bonds, that means that no armor can protect. They have a super weapon that can blow up a star in any point of the galaxy at any given time, if they lose they can litterllly go "fuck it" and blow up the entire milky way. They won a war against an entire army of primarchs (in my opinion full krorks should be weaker than primarchs, but a demi-krork managed to be on par with Vulkan. I hope that they will scale them down, but for now it's like this). In an all out war, DAoT humanity might win, but not because of uperior tech, but by sheer numbers
Preator armor:Seriously That shits nearly non stop able with Doomslayer and it can take star level attacks From demons so I say This is one of the strongest
Scrolled way to far for this
Maksee true probably
Did we call for Doom? Also, thats an individual.
@@werhnerd2773 eh
In my opinion it is only became a stronger armor because a literal angry mf is wearing it.
1:41
"Fallout Soldiers"
How you ever even played a fallout game?
The only thing that puts fallouts power armour down to the bottom is that it's very realistic yet gives enhanced physical abilities. Thats why its my favorite.
Good vid, although there is no way a Spartan 4 in gen 2 armour matches a Spartan 2, no matter what halo 5 would have us belive
Meh, the strength difference is about the ratio of a 5 foot 5 inch 150lb man to a 6 foot 2 inch 230lb man. Either can win, it just depends on who's better at fighting (although yeah, in halo 5 MC wouldve dunked all over locke, but if you had two equals at each end it'd be relatively close).
In all fairness on equal grounds a spartan 4 is fairly matched against an average spartan 2, this is proven by a spartan 4's ability to take on elites, hunters etc to the same or similar degree of a spartan 2
Jonathan Moore Chief was holding back.
Halo 5 campagne bad halo 5 multiplayer good
That's it, I'm gettin' me Thunder Hammer!
*b o n k*
Let's go!!
Why do people even make these videos. The astartes win. They always win.
Yeah, the basic Space Marine and Scout Marine is already OP enough in most crossovers
A single hit from a Terminator would have pulverized Vader!
(It takes a Nuke or the stomp of an AT-AT to neutralize a Terminator Space Marine)
@@christiandauz3742 wrong, a terminator space marine was stomped by a warlord titan and not only survived but got out of the rubbel and finished the conflict
I thought the Terminator was unable to fight for several days or weeks?
I remember a story in which a few Terminators were flung in the air and into some buildings due to the blast of an Atomic Bomb
They eventually woke up and get themselves to friendly territory
Yeah , the guy who madr the video clearly bias, you dont survive and even thrive to be the most powerful faction in a fucked up universe with war on a daily basis against some immortal demon god with some puny armour
Thay missed the part where 40k power armor does massively boost the users strength and speed and models without the direct body link (the space marine black carapace) can be used by normal humans but tend to be quite rare, for example the sisters of battle use a stripped down kind of power armor and so do Inquisitors.
*m e c h a n i z e d b i t s*
Dank Lord that got me triggered
Space marine armor is so durable that the standard weapon used against it, which itself isn't immediately lethal, is a fully-automatic rocket launcher. To disable a space marine you need to hit the same piece of armor plating four times to breach the armor, then twice to disable its mechanisms. In practice you don't hit the same plating. **Repeat: A space marine's armor can tank being struck by a fully-automatic clip of hyper-advanced rocket-propelled grenades and protect the user.**
This. And the Astartes can run stupid fast for a human and maintains reaction times 3x faster than normal humans. Speed, strength, and durability beat out every other contender.
@@BlackBlazeGaming you know nothing about spartans lmao. Literally didnt even look it up on a wiki before you put your fingers on the keys.
Thank you to tell the true by the emperor of warhammer40k, the emperor will protect you
@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 Maybe you're the one who didn't read a Wiki on Space Marines. Eckhart himself says that Space Marine genetic modification would make a Spartan 2 blush meaning that it is superior to it in every way. And what does the year M40 mean to you? The Halo timeline for Humanity is 2550 just 528 years from our current time period. Yes, I know that Humanity existed alongside the Forerunners and were basically nerfed but so did Humanity in 40k. The height of human technology wasn't during the Imperium, it was during M15 to M25. Humanity grew so powerful that, in theory, it is similar to Ancient Humanity of Halo and are able to fight Forerunners. AND Space Marines were designed by one the most, of not THE most intelligent being in the galaxy.
@@Brother_O4TS spartans are faster sprinting. 80kmph average top speed for a SM (sourced by someone else via deathwatch handbook) whereas spartans can hit and have hit in excess of 100kmph sprinting and the average was about 60-80kmph running if i recall. The SMs can go further, not faster.
Also a small spartan 2 in gen 2 mjolnir is a tiny bit stronger than the average SM in tacticus in terms of max strength (source again someone else referencing DW handbook. If you bring up terminator armor im gonna bring up the mantis armor lmao), and that says nothing of gen 3 mjolnir now in halo infinite.
And dont get me wrong, the SM is a better frontline troop in attrition based warfare without question. If we're talking more dynamic and short term environs spartans are maybe a bit better, and spartans were only ever intended to be spec ops.
A standard space marine bolter can rip a hole in any other power armor on that list lmao
Which Sci-Fi Faction has the BEST MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY? | Halo, Star Wars, WH40k, Fallout
Terra Sanctus Warhammer40k boi
40k's medical technology is a bolt pistol to the head. :P
Surprisingly I'd say it would be Mass Effect's medi gel since it seems to be a almost cure all for all injuries that works far faster then bacta in star wars
Either fallout or star wars, since both bacta and stim packs seem to heal almost anything....though star wars also has things like darth Vader and general grievous and other examples of insanely advanced prosthetics/cybernetics
Halo can flash clone organs and has advanced 100% accurate ai guided medical rooms
Which Sci-Fi Faction has the BEST POWER ARMOR? *crosses out Stormtroopers before video starts*
Thorgrim_Grudgebearer stormtrooper armour isn’t power armour but it is bloody good infantry armor. Emperor knows a lasgun wouldn’t touch it
I mean wooden spears at low speeds punch through it.
well played sir
Tancread of Galilee through the body glove which is meant to disperse heat? Yes. But that Body Glove in itself would render a lasgun useless. Stormtrooper armour works in two stages, the duraplast armour pieces that break kinetic momentum and the body glove that disperses energy. This armour works so well most stormtroopers you see go down in the movie are actually still alive just knocked unconscious. A lasgun might melt through or cause cracks in the plate after repeated firings but unlike blasters which are particle beams there is no kinetic force behind a lasgun.
JacatackLP the spears go through their fucking helmets. Which are duraplast. Stormtroopers gear is Shit even compared to guardsmen Carapace, they don't even protect from blasters set to Stun in universe.
"this video is sponsored by one of my favorite games, cancer"
Amen
Regular Sci-Fi power armor: big boi
Halo power armor: normal size dude with metal armor plates
I mean, an average of 7ft isn't too bad compared to 9ft
Its interesting, arguably the mjolnir is the most realistic in terms of application. I mean why slap on more armor when you can just make a better shield and only keep enough armor to absorb shock and the occasional round?
Yes, 7.5 feet tall is ‘normal’ sized. Master Chief isn’t even the biggest Spartan 2 and he’s 9 feet tall with armor.
Literally everything that mjolnir armor does astartes armor does better and then some. Not to mention their standard issue "small arms" are 20mm(.75 cal) armor piercing grenade machine guns that explode inside their target and the unsc is still using regular contemporary ballistic weapons for small arms. The astartes armor even recycles your shit into food for you.
No contest.
Id like to see a space marine have the movement capability as master cheif wouldnt that be glorious
yes , but they have not energy shield
@@drakolobo terminators have
angry warhammer fan number 403495868
@@spartanx9293 yeah, first off, space marine power armor is far more durable and has all the same features to a more advanced degree than spartan 2 armor, the material and bulk of space marine armor cancels out the advantage a little refractor field gives spartan armor, and certain models of sm armor does have shielding, an unnamed sm has a similar speed feat to master chiefs bullet speed and reflexes feat, so to get angry at a video where facts are clearly either unknown or biased is absolutely justifiable, however some of these dudes take shit to far
You realise power armour from 40k amplifies strength/speed as well right?
KKORD Doesn’t matter when chunks of metal can do the same thing
@@imperialguardsmen8543 that, and SMs have iron halos...
Actually
Def/strength/speed/power
I love the entry on Dark Trooper armor in The Imperial Handbook
It's basically the guy who made the phase 1 and 2 armors going "noooo you can't just use guns, they're dishonorable!'
Bro the best armor ist diamond armor with protektion 2
Is it power armor, though?
HERESY
heresy halo is best no matter you're opinion
Just to note, Mjolnir suit weighs 700 pounds on its own.
Chang Ye holy fuck,
The space marine weighs more than that without the armorr.
Jay J proof
the average space marine without armor on weights 320 kilos, they are some heavy dudes
Maybe the newer suits, but Halo 3's little booklet even states that the armor is actually a thousand pounds
God, mjolnir armor is beautiful.
Glowing Aleks I always thought Masterchief looked more like he was going quad biking than going to war
Preach :)
You haven't heard of the *nanosuit 2.0* a black mamba
Leonard tha God, Crysis right? I'm not really into skin tight stuff. Armor made of metal is what I like.
There's no point in debating
Imperium of Man always wins
Thick, bulky and can take a pounding?
Sounds like my mom.
Oh gos
"Pounding," eh?
What's her number?
Yeah, I can get on board with this. Even as a Total Warhammer (heh) shill, to my knowledge we don't get the same attention to detail for Space Marine armor as we do for the Mjonir sets, and I think it's safe to assume most of the bad ass factor is coming from the marine himself. Funny, despite how much Warhammer is known for sweating the details, they took arguably the most iconic part of the series and kind of just said "it's power armor, it's dope" and left it at that.
Yeah if you look at it a little more closely the space marine armor really does not have adequate clearance between the plates to be practical, the shoulder plates are laughably oversized you would never be able to raise them to firing height which is something that becomes apparent when you cosplay in this stuff. Not even going to mention how the bolter has a barrel larger than the magazine that feeds it...
Than i would suggest you actually looking up that stuff, especially since you are talking about Total Warhammer that hasnt anything to do with 40K in the first place. Warhammer is set in a medvial fantasy setting while 40k is set in a sci-fi setting.
Aside from that, Halo tells you even less about the armor , in fact virtually nothing really besides that it increases your strength and what not but not how.
As for Solid Snek, that is maybe because cosplaying as a SM is weird, Simply because the cosplayer in question would like to make it Space mariny by making the armor very broad. Problem is that a normal human would be wearing the stuff instead of a 2.30m Tall twice as brought as a normal man being Astartes.
The bolter is directly integrated into the Space Marines armor so it provides a targeting cross-hairs onto the helmet. That means that a Space Marine does not need to aim down the sights of the gun. The gun is providing targeting information directly to his helmet. You see this in the Dawn of War 2 Trailer which clearly shows the Space Marine aiming with the gun at his waist.
You see the same thing in Starcraft 2 for the C-14 gun. Since the guns are integrated with the armor they don't need sights since they are integrated into the armor. They have neither sight nor stock since they do not need neither since the gun is directly integrated into his armor.
Have you read The Fall of Reach? It provides some stats on the armor, at least if I remember correctly. I could be wrong, though.
+Invictus
you _Are_ told how the armour makes the user stronger Liquid metal crystal piezoelectric layer (a layer made of a fictional material) in the armour deforms when exposed to an electrical charge (something some real life materials can do too just not as well as this fictional material)
we are also told what the armour is made of, we know of medical subsystems like bio foam injectors, we know it can seal off sections of the suit if breached, a gel layer that protects against kinetic damage and high pressure environments; not mentioning the fail safe detonators, micro fusion reactors computer systems etc.
what do we know of the space marine armour meanwhile? just a bit less...its a bit more simple and more focused on just being an armour and life support system, it has no AI port or anything like that unlike later sets of armour in halo (as AI is not used by the space marines) and the strength amplification system is a bit more simple relying on solid fibres.
also even for a broad 2.30m tall astrates moving in the armour is impossible...the plates would prevent proper movement; this is due to 40k intentionally following an old sci-fi (and fantasy) trope where soldiers have unrealistically large armour on the shoulders. (though plating would interfere in other areas too, its far more restricting then medieval plate)
My fellow halo fans. remember that hes just talking solely about the armor. not the LEGEND in the armor
yeah, if we were including the actual ppl wearing the armor then Warhammer40K would have one by a landslide
halo is best because
master chief is master chief
Is nobody going to mention the Nanosuit from the Crysis franchise? Cause that shit is great
The comment section is absolutely hilarious. People are screaming “40k wins!” Before even watching the video and now the whole thing is so confused, it’s great!
*40K WINS*
The Astartes inside the armor wins, the power armor is irrelevant.
The astartes is the power armour
Cuz 40k fandom is trash
@@thingamajig9565 you’re about to get swarmed lol
>WH40K on the list
Yeaaaahhhh I really wonder which one will win
> mjolnir gen 2 wins
Me: ......oh.
SIKE!!!
Super Tactical Droid halo won
Batman Who laughed Yeah I noticed. I was making a joke of how completly overpowered anything in 40k is honestly rather than a real prediction.
Super Tactical Droid i mean, I would have bet money on warhammer, but no I was wrong [pretty bitter actually]
Modders: Using space marine power armor mod in Fallout 4.
Me: It's possible to learn this kind of power?
I want to see a space marine vs a spartan without armor. Bare hands with no tricks. You know,like the old style
So what you're saying is you want to see how long a Spartan would last against the Space Marine?
@@channingtaintum As much as I hate to agree, yeah, a Spartan against a Space Marine without armour is generally unfair. The Astartes make the armour, the armour makes the Spartan.
EL: "...bulky, thick and can take a pounding."
Me: "Don't say like your mom. Don't say like your mom. Don't say..."
Spartan 4's are not as effective as spartan 2's even with the new armor you have to read more halo lore
Flightsim Fantasy very true. You can't beat literally raising children for war with fast augments and expensive armor. But you sure can make a lot more of them the other way.
ou you got me there, gg im just hating on 343 for messing up my childhood action packed shooter
Spartan 3's are just cannon fodder
Nah that's still the Spartans' 4 and 5 role.
Wait, there are Spartan 5s?
In one battle, 300 Spartan IIIs died fighting against a few thousand Covenants
If every Spartan on Reach was replaced with a Space Marine, could the UNSC have held Reach?
Friend:Ok who would win between WH40k and...
Me:Wh40k
Friend:but I haven't said what is up against Wh40k
Me:WH40K ALWAYS WINS
Grant De Los Angeles Not always but most of the time
Imperial Guardsmen how are you here? You are supposed to be dead?
Grant De Los Angeles Huh, some blue astartes saved me.
Imperial Guardsmen They probably saved you because:
YOUR FACE IS YOUR SHEILD
You say the Guardsmen are supposed to be dead?
Now that's fucking stupid. Why does everyone keep thinking about the Space Marines as if they were the only fighting force the Imperium has?
Surprised you didn't include the space marine armor from legendary Starcraft franchise, that would be my go to futuristic armor if I had a pick.
Love the WH40K power armor but one'd have to undergo an enhancing transhuman process (and survive it) in order to wear one.
There’s probably much more powerful armor out there, but I can’t help but admire the MJOLNIR suit. It’s so...iconic in such a way I can’t explain.
Captain Cutter Ikr
Forerunner Combat Skins are supposedly very powerful.
It's said mjolnir armor is equal to a forerunner type 2 combat skin.
Master Chief John-117 And there’s 18 Tiers Of Combat Armour...
I C O N I C
Master Chief John-117 it's also a type 2 not because it's equal in power to one, but because the Mjolnir is a combination of a battle skin and a hazardous enviroment suit at the same time, and guilty spark mentions that it's quite smart to use such equipment when dealing with the flood, probably meaning that even tho forerunner battle skins of high tier were probably extremly powerful, they were vulnerable to the flood infenction
Warhammer 40k wi- Oh...
It might have won if he used Terminator armor.
Built like a tank, with teleportation, super-duper strength, and special shielding... but slow.
Then again, Halo's armor was actually pretty good.
I think I understand.
"specialty" rather than "elite"
Space Marine>Spartan>Dark Trooper>Power Armor
@Jinjyo ni Shoubu Plot armor > everything
I love every power armor. Everyone of them fits perfectly into their universe.
Well said
ya but master chief is master chief
Tactical dreadnought armour. The end
i just cannot hate the steampunk style of the Fallout serie Power Armor, so even if not the best the t-51b is a masterpiece
The Phase III Darktrooper is made out of Phrik, which if that was brought into the comparison, i think it wouldve gotten higher since phrik can survive the death star
Welcome to factions compared, where Ecks picks his favorite and then tries to justify it.
Literally everything the Spartan armor can do is done better by Astartes power armour. Including the reasons you gave for why Mjolnir armor is better. Increasing strength, durability, etc. Ecks is a Halo and SW fan and does little research into 40k (there's a lot of it, after all) and it shows. Just about every time 40k is compared to any other setting parts of 40k must be omitted or misrepresented because otherwise it would not be fair. Everything in 40k is OP when compared to any other setting, but not when compared to things in its own setting, that's the point.
To paraphrase a youtuber whose name I can't remember "40k is a constant cycle of 'That seems way too powerfu- Oh never mind it's dead"
The name your looking for is Kirioth
You know what you are right. This is so true. I was wondering why all of his videos came off this way and you are right. He definitely is heavily biased against warhammer.
Imagine making a video comparing space fleets and thinking that the IOM doesn’t have an equivalent to the the Death Star.
Screw the bias, I just wished he had a remotely informed opinion on 40k before he made these videos. If you know anything about the setting all you see are glaring errors.
@@zachdunn6701 I remember when he did a video comparing space marines from different franchises, and used imperial guard for 40k.
@@SarthorS wtf? Actually?
@@zachdunn6701 Yup, if I remember right he was comparing regular 40k guardsmen against Spartans and Starcraft space marines.
At one point, the Imperial Guard got pinned down near a bridge on a valley because of high powered anti vehicle weapons. Then some Astartes arrived and literally just ran through the literal rain of high explosives to take out the enemy on the other side. Let's see Spartans do that.
Mori Adine Warhammer is a universe. Anyone can make up anything within the universe and call it Canon because of the nature of Warhammer 40k's lore. You could say one space marine held a temple for 30 days against an entire warband of orcs, but it wouldn't matter anyway because Warhammer is fueled by imagination due to the nature of the wargame.
The Imperial Guard isn't real, so literally anything anyone says is "Canon" Warhammer is a huge universe, they probably had a beaver for a commisar at one point.
"anyone can make up anything and call it canon."
lolno
Red Heron Gaming doesn't change the fact that it happened. Astartes armor is superior to these others, deal with it.
I don't disagree that Astartes Armor is better, but you also have to factor in that even WEARING that armor required painful surgery and a complete change of your hormonal growth (as well as basically removing your ribs) to actually wear. Halo Mjolnir and other marks require roughly similar work to be done, and for the Spartan to be picked at a young age. Star Wars armor is honestly a bit of a mess. Fallout's T-series and APA series armor requires literally a handle pull, then a thrust, and you are in. You now have nearly two tons of armor on and lots of protection. You used to have to get special training to wear it, but Fallout 4 has retconned this. I have my doubts you have played Fallout (any of them) or honestly anything other than Warhammer stuff. You sound like you are a fanboy who only wants their version of truth to be real. Get a life, please.
i sense some bias or some lack of information here...
All the reasons you have to put Mjolnir armor on first spot, the Sm Power armor has it...
Enhance user strength, speed and durability?, yup the Astartes Power Armours does it, through the Neural connection of the armour to its wearer a power armour adds to the Space marine strength( in game terms a SM Str is 4, a Spartan would be equivalant or 3).
In term of speed, while the Power armor enhance the SM surhuman speed, i reckon that the fact still remain that a SM power armor weights 250kg, even if the SM unnatural strength combined with the Power armor servos and systemes allows them to move like the armor weights nothing to them, its still a load of over 400kgs( since Marines weight a little under 200kg themselfs...), while the Mjolnir armour is more lightweight.
Armors durability?, to be absolutly sure to get through a power armor, you need anti tank missiles or rockets..., everything with less firepower has more chances to bounce off then doing anything significant, and thats not factoring in the fact that SM surhuman physiques and modified organs can keep them alive even if the armor gets breached, but since you focused on the armors rather then the wearer we'll leave it at that.
HuD interface and sensory arrays?, yup, the Power armor does it too, with the aid of a "Machine-Spirit" ( IA) that facilitate the work for the Marine, think of it has the HuD of Iron Man suits in the movies, communications, radar, lidar, infrared, you name it the Power armor does it.
Power armors also can deliver "first aid" on the fly if the wearer is wounded, boosting the Marines surhuman healing capabilities, by injecting chemicals, adrenaline, etc and stitching the wounds that can be stitched of course or apply a gel to cover more complicated wounds that need surgical and medical attention, once the battle is over.
And all that is in the standard issued Power armor, that not even accounting for the higher officers armors that has acces to shield generators and artificer armors that boast greater capabilities and durability.
Also the Power armor has its own nuclear reactor to provide energy to it, wich makes power armors capable of nearly going forever...
And then...you have the Tactical Dreadnaught Armor, or more commonly named the Terminator Armor...
BUt the biggest down size to Astartes power armors is that, well only SPace Marines can wear them, some lesser versions of power armors exists for the Adeptus Sororitas( Sisters of Battles, or Battles Nuns...) and for some high ranking Inquisitors, but they don't have all the features that the ones used by the SM has, since they lack the neural connections and the extra organs to make it work.
Also the tehcnological downfall of Humankind in the 40k universe, make is so that they repair and maintain existing power armors or use antiquated blueprints to make new ones, since 40k is a grimdark universe where the tehcnological advancedment of mankind went stall and even a little back wards after the Age of Strife and the aftermath of the Horus Heresy, so the number of Power armors is kinda limited, and they rarely make new variants, it takes the Techs and Mechs of the Adeptus Mechanicus centuries or even millenias to find and release new variants of existing gear because innovations is so hard and near impossible with the Monolithic and Despotic ruling if the Imperium of Man, where they considere that the Machines are governed by a God of Machines, the Omnimessiah, the Deus Ex Machina...
And so any new findings are rigourously tested for centuries before given the green light for mass production because of that mix of Religion and Tech...
In the Deathwatch RPG books the Space Marines armor gave them +20 strength. With a -10 to concealment. Armor 8 (10 torso). and one ability from a random table.
While in the Dark Heresy RPG books the "light" power armor gave the wearer the unnatural strength 1 trait(+1 strength).max agility 40. armor 7
I guess the Spartan armor would be like the light power armor with better agility and a refactor field.
I never like the name Mjolnir for the armor.
They should have call it Megingjörð after Thor's belt.
THE POWER ARMOR HAS INTELLIGENT ARTIFICIALS IN IT?! HOLY SHIT! I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAME OUT WITH THOSE YET! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! (You spelled AI backwards, so now I have to be an overly sarcastic asswipe.)
@Da CGBaws That's kind of a inside joke, as a true AI is outlawed in 40K.
Good run down. I just whipped up a Dark Angels Captain from the last codex: 2+ armor, 3+ invulnerable, jump pack, blah, blah, etc.
It is not close. I will wade into it with the Imperium's Finest any time.
For the Lion. When he returns, the 1st Legion is coming back together again and there will be another xenocide.
Okay I think one thing to consider when looking at "the best Power Armor", that Eckharts got right, is that its not about strongest (duh 40k because its space fantasy) but what it actually does. Spartan armor increases the strength of the wearer x5, thats what makes it impressive and worth being called "best" not strongest. If someone is seriously saying that Space Marine power armor increases the strength of the wearer x5, then bullshit. You're either telling me that a space marine without armor is weak, or literally nothing makes sense. They should be able to pick up dreadnoughts if it increases their already crazy strength by five. But instead they get killed by an ork with an arm diameter only 1' wide..
Dude a orcs can make shit happen as long they collectively believe it will
Okay, a bit late but here goes. In armor space marines are capable of lifting weights in excess of a ton, that is with the armor and 200+ without it due to their own biological enhancements what makes sure that even if they aren't in armor they are going to be a problem. The armor also might have a shield, depending on the addons of it. They are also extremely resiliant to most things they go against. Also if orks believe in something it will happen
Some Spartans have been able to hold above their head 2.5 tons so...
A space marine is equivalent to a brute chieftain in Jiralhanae power armour.
I love you Eck, but we all know that Astartes armor, with its autosenses, stimulant dispensers, aim assist, fission power pack, near total environmental immunity, ect. beats out the awesome but not quite as awesome Spartan M armor.
I think the only real thing the Spartan suit has going for it over the astartes armor, is the Energy shields built into the later MKs, but it doesn’t help much considering it’s not the toughest when but agaisnt heavy weaponry, and something like iron halo outstrips it completely in comparison
how about the granddaddy of all power armor, the classic starship troopers. it falls from space, can hover/skate and almost fly with jumps of hundreds of meters. it can run at high speed too comparable to any car. it usually doesnt have any direct projectile weaponry like guns but its loaded with a flamethrower, many missiles, and bombs and its not uncommon for them to carry small nukes. their strength is practically a gorilla. the protection was decent against radiation but directed energy weapons like lasers could pierce it. power and life support could last for hours and was easily rechargeable. it had its own built in radar with HUD and multiple comm circuits. all of this was written in the 1950s too.
Not to conflict with your point or anything, but WH40K (Warhammer) was created before Starship Troopers, and Starship Troopers is actually inspired by it.
Starship troopers 1959 - Warhammer 40k 1987
I think he was actually thinking about Starcraft when he made that comment.
Which is absurd - I'm pretty sure the commenter (like me) actually read the book, and knows that what we saw in the movie was a diminutive travesty.
"COME ON YOU APES, YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER!?!"
Connor O'Brien Its also what mainly inspired all of Fallouts power armor too.
The author, probably, is not accustomed well with WH40K Space marines armor. Otherwise it is hard to explain the selection. Space marine armor is, actually, provides all the same capabilities and more as Spartan armor - it is packed with autosenses, 3C devices and power augmentation. In addition, it allows to wield it without removal for YEARS, without resupply, without recharging - which we can see on multiple occasions (although space marines are tending to care for their armor as soon as possible). As for strength and speed, space marines armor provides incredible augmentation to their inhuman abilities, allows them to mount heavy weaponry, especially when talking about terminators (tactical dreadnoughts). So, it is at least equal to the Spartan's armor. At minimum. But the true thing is the owner-armor integration system. Space marines have implanted devices and contact points - which allows them to use their armor as second skin.
Space Marines win in situations that Spartans would lose
Space Marines wouldn't have lost Reach!
Perhaps it's 'best armour' in relation to the wearer? Like, a Space Marine's suit is powerful, but they go from 'Deadly bio-augmented warrior' to 'Deadly bio-augmented warrior with armour plating' whereas Mjolnir considerably ups the abilities of the Spartan inside it.
sooo Luxray did you not read what he said? Power armor already boost the abilities of the Space Marine. Just like the spartan armor but way more.
What I mean is, a Spartan outside of armour is still a well-trained, genetically modified combatant, as is a Space Marine, but the difference is that a Space Marine's armoured suit does not up the capabilities of a Marine nearly as much in comparison. To take an example, even without the suit, Marines are still capable of shrugging off bullets with their Black Carapace alone, whereas a Spartan has a significantly difference chance of survival depending on whether or not they're armoured. A Space Marine helmet grants increased targeting ability, but their own bio-augmented eyes give them insane targeting ability to begin with, while Spartans rely more heavily on their helmet for aiming (except for Linda, but she's practically meme-powered when it comes to aiming anyway...). There's no question that, looking at the suits themselves, the Space Marine armour is tougher and has more powerful hardware, but _relative to the abilities of the occupants,_ MJOLNIR has a greater impact. Sorry if I'm not communicating this well, I'm not very good at explaining.
MJOLNIR Armor isn't as good at protecting the user against melee and energy weapons
Had Noble Six been wearing an Imperial version of Power Armor he would have lasted longer
Imperium Power Armor has nothing on Dark Eldar Power Armor (worn by the Incubi)
Incubi Power Armor does not slow the user down at all yet offers the same protection as Space Marine Power Armor!
Had Noble Six been wearing TERMINATOR Power Armor...
...it would have taken several airstrikes from the Covenant Ships to take him out!
Btw this is Hersey, the inquisitors are tracking you now.
He missed a lot of details about the space marines.
Why always Space Marines? They may be better, but they are the main force that represents Chaos.
T-51 power armor has a waste recycling system
cool so does MJOLNIR armor and Astartes Power armor . so not a major improvement . But at least we know the Soldiers in fallout aren't walking around in their own shit lol.
@@John2r1 you don't play fallout do you
@@jackzter049 Actually i do and Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4 are two of my favorites.
But when it comes to power armor Halo and 40k have the Fallout series beat . And this comparison wasn't even counting all the various attachments and enhancements that can be made too the Halo and 40k power armor's.
@@John2r1 I just stating fallout 4 is a bit more realistic than halos mjolnir armour
And T-60 with fully modified F is alot better than T-51
At this point Eck should just leave the WH40k out of his videos. I enjoyed his videos better, before the 40k ones appeared.
He clearly has a bias against WH40k.
TK-315 CloneM He clearly stated 40k armour was more durable than Spartan armor but that wasn't the question he was asking. He wanted to know how effective it was. They aren't doing a vs video. They're comparing them and seeing how effective each one is. If they were to battle it out then sure space marine might win but this video isn't about that.
He wanted to show the best armour, not the most effective soldier.
Which one is the best armour if not the most armoured one?
If we really go by the "which armour boosts one's abilities most", than it is the Dark Trooper armour, when Eck says, that all four requires training, he is likely committing a mistake.
There is no indication, that Dark Trooper armour requires any training at all (other, than likely a basic millitary training). The fact, that many dark troopers are actually droids and still perform so well strengthens this assumption. So, a normal stormtrooper could equip it and become a powerful supersoldier, capable of taking on air and ground vehicles + a jet pack to counter the slow movement speed.
I still however believe, that space marine armour is the best armour. Why boost a supersoldiers already impressive amount of abilities, when all it needs is an armour. A durable. armour.
But it does boosts the space marine, like a built in life support system... etc.
And, then there are additional "gadgets" such as jump packs or a rosarius, but of course, those are not for the "average" marine, so I guess they don't count.
It shouldn't manner how well made it is so long as the user is up to par with the standards of understanding its uses. If all you have is simply a bulky shield, then you're just delaying death until you embrace the impact.
I don't really understand your reply Kenney, but a space marine doesn't really need anything else, than protection, when it comes to their armour. They themselves have several unique abilities, sure the armour has a few "extras" such as auto-senses.
"All that is too complex is unnecessary, and it is simple that is needed"
There is no point in adding things to the armour, that the space marine already possesses.
TK-315 CloneM I agree but I think its because he either doesn't know enough ( 30 years of shit to read through ) or is just looking at wikis. For example he named the new Mark10 prime armor but talks only about normal SM armor of the mark 6. Granted we can say mark 10 is as good as mark 6 but thd fact he keeps calling it by the upgraded armor proves he is messing up.
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The spartan Locke armor GameStop trailer is probably the most accurate representation of Mjolnir gen2’s abilities we’ve gotten thus far.
i lil late but i vote for nanosuit from crysys/ :P
The Fallout's Power Armor is completely outmatched, it is child's play compared to everything else on this list.
E135 true, but I think it's the coolest since it could actually exist in the real world, but Its still impractical
E135 agreed. Its slow, clunky, not shielded (well there is the energy resistant enclave armor but it doesnt affect all fire like energy shields in halo.), and just vulnerable to heavy weapons. Rockets murder BOS guys like nothing and deathclaws rip you in half.
Feel like metroid should be here as Samus has the best power armor in all of sci fi in my opinion as it absorbs enemy tech regularly, defies physics, has more sensors than most of these listing have guns (she sees you WAY before you see her.), her armor can take inconcievable amounts of damage, AND just its general power to begin with. Her suit is amazing and just OP as fuck.
it was made with scraps from nuclear war survivors... compare that to the rest which are created by well funded and professional armies with access to the best materials and technology.
adolphin flipper no it's actually prewar, made by the us military.
dolphin flipper nope, they were used by the US military in the war before the bombs were dropped, the frames were however built upon by scavengers and raiders seeking better protection
Space Marine armor also comes supplied with a wide array of auto-senses, targeting augurs and communications similar to the MJOLNIR armor. Also I find the whole "increases speed and agility by a factor of five" extremely suspect. Not only are those things *never* experienced in gameplay, but if your armor moved five times faster than you can it would literally pulverize your skeleton.
I completely agree we did not expereince this in game but it is written in the halo lore so it has to be true. but the claim that it would pulverize humans is only true for normal humans. remember spartans are agmented from birth so not only is the armor making them stronger and faster there bones and muscles are stronger and faster than any normal man.
@BUSHBABY 23 Is it really? Has MC or any other Spartan dodged bullets by the simple fact that they can see them coming in slow motion? Have they been shown outracing a Warthog on foot? Why do they carry small-caliber firearms and seem overburdened by heavy weapons when they should be near weightless for them? Do veteran Elites have some kind of similar equipment? The Halo series portrays them as the Spartan's match, but if the MJOLNIR worked as advertised they should be no threat whatsoever.
And I'd agree with you if MJOLNIR armor made the user five times stronger and faster than an average human (in which case I'd wager that's more the doing of the soldier's augments than the armor), but what it says is that it is five times higher that *the user* , i.e. the armor is moving five times faster and harder that what a Spartan's muscles might possibly allow. Regardless, as the video claims GEN II is designed to be worn by minimally augmented humans, so the argument stands either way.
Juan Carlos Gonzalez Yes they have been able to dodge bullets in speacial cases it has been called spartan time by the unsc it is when spartans are so fast that the world seems slower. also you must remember that the weapons he carries have nothing to do with his armor. i don't understand what you mean by he seems burdened by heavy weapons as i have never seen this. as for the warthog you must remember that that is faster than 5x a humans speed. as for the elites in the video it does say that the armor does contain elite And forrunner components. Also the video did not state that it is allowing for 5x a spartans movements it is 5x faster for a normal human.
@BUSHBABY As far as I can research, "Spartan Time" (Can't teabag this!) is the result of the Spartan's extensive augments and AI assistance helping them cope with the increased data processing and has nothing to do with the armor itself.
I mentioned the weapons because if you have a soldier that can carry a heavier weapon comfortably then you're wasting his increased strength by making him use the same bog-standard rifle than everyone else uses. What's the super-strength for then? So he can pull the trigger more vigorously? Also I may be misremembering but didn't guns like the Spartan Laser significantly bog you down when using them? Again that might be attributed to the colossal ludonarrative dissonance the Halo series suffers, but still...
Now, about speed. The world's record is held by Usain Bolt, who managed to sprint at a whooping 37.6kmh. Bolt is an unaugmented human, but let's be conservative and say that an average Spartan can sprint at 30kmh unarmoured. If the armour increases the user's speed by a factor of five, that means a Spartan could sprint at a mind-boggling speed of 150kmh. Now according to lore, the Warthog has a max speed of 125kmh, so not only could a Spartan keep the pace, he could easily outrun it.
The video said that the armor increases the *user's* speed, strength and reflexes by a factor of five. If a human wears it that's five times a human; if it's a Spartan it's five times a Spartan.
Don't know much about 40K, but I do know a bit about Halo. A marine testing the Mjolnir died violently when he wore it. His body was too weak and his reaction time was too slow, so he ended up spasming out, breaking his own bones and killing himself with his own spasms. The SPARTANs are augmented to the point where the armor won't break their bones (otherwise Halo would've been a much shorter game). As for gameplay, I think it's just for balance and all that you don't run around like the god of death and kill all your enemies in the blink of an eye.
There is no way in hell the space Marines have inferior armor
Does anyone else get super excited when he puts your favorite universe on top?
Space marine is deadlier than 3-4 spartans even without his armor. Good luck in killing him without heavy weapon even with a headshot.
BIGGESTblade thats not the point of this video and no a squad of Spartan would be able to take down a single Marine
King Crimson Without armor... possibly. With armor? Hahahahaha!
Yeah but if you put the spartan pilot in space marine armour he wouldn't be strong enough to lift it or have the modifications required to interface with it. Spartan armour is fine for the situations Spartans get into, but it just isn't enough for the situations Space Marines get into. A Space Marine could walk through an artillery barrage and will shrug off everything but the heaviest ordnance or specifically designed anti-armour weapons. Spartans just don't pack the firepower needed or have comparable training to Space Marines. Space Marines would also reliably outrun and outshoot Spartans to a ludicrous degree, and if they ever got anywhere near close combat the Spartans would never stand a chance.
As a fun note, if you shot a space marine with a normal pistol you wouldn't be able to kill him. His rib cage is genetically changed to be bullet proof, he has two hearts, and his skull is really only going to be damaged by a tank round. You couldn't poison him, you couldn't cut him and hope he bleeds to death, you couldn't gas him, you couldn't try to find a weak spot because he doesn't have one, and you wouldn't be close to being faster than him. 40k is a ludicrously overpowered universe that very few other fictional universes stand a chance at combatting. Halo is certainly not capable of doing it. Star Wars cannot. Fallout cannot. Do not be dumb enough to assume just because you like Spartans that they're on the level of 40k's elite soldiers.
It's not overpowered, it's just logical. You are a guy from 30th mfucking millenium, if you would create a supersoldier I don't think they would be much different. Spartans are simply from the another league. Imperial stormtroopers sometimes are better equiped then spartans. And they recive roughly the same training. That's who people should compare spartans with.
Were the forerunners on this list, they would've cleaned the floor with each supersoldier in each power armor. The Marines might give him some trouble, but with how powerful the armor is I doubt it would be too much. Forerunner armor > Astartes > Mjolnir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two
Love the scientific talk. Mechanical bits. 😂😂 much love eck, hope your good!!
‘Top spit still goes to mjolnir armour’ *HERESY INTENSIFIES*
The boltgun begs to differ
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If we go by design alone I just love halos power armor. Atleast before 343 took over. It's so slim and looks great. I never enjoyed the look of 40k or fallout 4's armor due to how big they were. But it makes sense atleast in 40k why you need big buff poweramor because things will want to kill you. Everything in 40k is dangerous.