Who are we? A conversation between Buddhism and neuroscience
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- Can ancient views about the mind be reconciled with modern neuroscience? Buddhist monk Gelong Thubten and neuroscientist Ash Ranpura discuss
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I could listen to Gelong Thubten all day. This is a wonderful video, and I love the science backing too. Incredible.
The monk seems to come across making more sense and seeing the world as it truly is. Even tho as a Westener, I would think science has all the answers and only things that are proven in experiments and studies should be taken seriously, I'm seeing sciences limitations more clearly now. A combination of the both has got to be the best way, psychology and buddism, to truly understand the world as best as we can right now.
The most interesting and fascinating clip I've ever seen thank you
Scientist is very restless. Whereas Buddhist monk is very calm and explanation has good clarity
I agree and this guy talks too much
Good observation! You must be an aware individual!
Scientist has amazing curriculum, unfortunately poor communication skills
Which one has put people in the moon?
Astute observation.
What a fascinating and beautiful interaction and discussion between these two men from such different fields! Loved it, thank you.
My dear Scientist, its time u self reflect on your advanced curriculum, reaserch u learnt in your university and take a moment to observe this Monk , who is a live example of Human sanity , who sees life jus the way it is and not frm a scientific perspective. long live the monk
Thank you both so much. Very intensive thoughts and communication. Was interesting. 🌿🌍
Fascinating talk. Thank you New Scientist for sharing it.
Next level of humanity coming through in this movement. Ty for content +rep
Saul Mackie agreed - after all, it’s a natural progression: the Buddha asked people to verify what he talked about with their own experience. After a brief detour science is finally coming back to the mind :)
@@0laare hopefully we get there before we tear ourselves apart eh. Biggest problem is without total unity the peaceful are a likely target for the greedy and bored. So, it's a battle forever eh 😂
Saul Mackie such is the practice 😅
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They’re stupids doing useless doings
Very interesting. I can continue listening for hours even if I dont understand all the concepts. Sending Love and compassion to the world ❤
Excelent video
Brilliant talk 👍 still training but still feeling like throwing that brick at people sometimes 😉
Forgiveness is the message of the book PROOF OF ETERNITY by Alba Monn. It's about a mother who has a near-death-experience together with her child. In this near-death-experience, her child asks her to forgive the person who has abandoned both of them after a life-threatening accident!
Interesting duo... Western fellow trained in an eastern ideology with a very calm presence and an eastern origin person trained in western science with a restless presence... Hmm... Both have interesting points to make, agree on the waves but disagree on the depths within the ocean.. 😊
Thought provoking!
Wow!
These two are like the moment I Want You ends and Here Comes The Sun plays on Abbey Road, you love both in a very different way.
It seems hard for the monk to calm this guy down. He will never be able to keep his mind calm.
It wasn't as woo-filled as I expected. I am relieved. At the very end where they 'break up', it sounds like they are discussing the concept of qualia, which, by its very nature, is specific to an individual.
If your belief system requires you to shave your head and dress like a Jedi, it's woo
I have no problem moving an individual finger....
Secondo le analisi statistiche di Ludwig Boltzmann (XIX secolo) l'Universo che conosciamo è destinato a dissolversi in un grande disordine omogeneo, sostanzialmente privo di fenomeni organizzati riconoscibili.
Ma questo non è tutto.
Sapendo che lo sviluppo entropico è solo un fenomeno statistico, Boltzmann sapeva che esistono sempre fluttuazioni, e calcolava che dopo un tempo eccezionalmente lungo si può verificare (anzi, è inevitabile) un ritorno alle condizioni originali.
Cioè l'Universo dovrebbe riprodursi nuovamente.
Anche Poincaré, grandissimo matematico, per altra via era giunto alla medesima conclusione.
Secondo il suo teorema di ricorrenza sempre alla fine alla fine di un tempo sterminato, l'Universo deve ritornare allo stato iniziale, perlomeno entro la approssimazione di differenze infinitesime.
Il discorso è applicabile anche a sottoinsiemi più piccolo.
Ad esempio, se una bottiglia sigillata contiene un litro di gas, e la mettiamo in comunicazione con un'altra bottiglia che contiene un litro di vuoto, il gas si diffonderà uniformemente dal primo recipiente ad entrambi.
Tuttavia è possibile calcolare attraverso continue trasformazioni, dopo un tempo enormemente lungo (dai miei calcoli universitari mi pare emergesse tre volte la durata stimata di questo universo) comparirà nuovamente tutto il gas in una bottiglia sola: dopotutto si tratta semplicemente di un caso di ordine spaziale equiprobabile a tutti gli altri, che sono in numero molto maggiore, ma la disposizione iniziale non può essere esclusa dagli eventi che dovranno manifestarsi in futuro.
Date queste premesse, la possibilità che un singolo organismo umano si riproduca nuovamente così com'era è possibile.
In tal caso, mutantis mutandis, non può essere escluso pregiudizialmente il fenomeno della reincarnazione, che, anche senza prevedere la ricostituzione del medesimo corpo materiale trascorso, consiste nella riproducibilità di una certa coscienza di fondo, cioè una struttura psichica, che è sempre una forma di organizzazione con un suo ordine.
He is talking about modern buddhism which adapted with all modern knoweldge and psychological knowledge
Original and true buddhism is a religion by which people are suppose to let go on their ego and simply be, waiting for the moment of their death
But buddism evolved in different branches, depending people beleives and nations where it spread..that's why we talk about buddhismes in plurial
that's not true. that's your mind projection on Buddhism without learning the teachings of buddha and buddhism.
you should read pali canon, instead of hearing hearsay from people that are not qualified to explain buddhism
Where's the physicist? There needs to be a physicist to mediate between philosophy, and science.
look up "The Nature of Reality: A Dialogue Between a Buddhist Scholar and a Theoretical Physicist". it's very interesting.
The doctor talks like David Cross lmao
A word to the neuroscientist...please keep sentences short and put in more quality into your sentences else the interest in the conversation for the listener fades. One more thing..the more time you take to make your point and put forth the question, the lesser the time for the other person.
Scientists try to learn about humans, by performing cruel experiments on innocent animals in a lab. Like that they will never ever understand compassion.
The neuroscientist suffers from some hyperactive disorder. He needs some serious medication practice if he wants to be more effective in his craft.
😂😂😂 OH BUT I DO
I seriously didn't liked the neuroscientist here. He speaks too much and he is disturbing the monk.
Don't listen to this interview if you're sleeping and listening to get a good sleep. Better listen other videos of this monk.
I have meditated for years. Reading Buddhist self help philosophy is beneficial, particularly when related by a western neuro specialist. The religious element is, not unlike all theocracy, is nonsense. New Scientist is a rag. Western science has vindicated meditation as a health benefit. Don't let these two put you off.
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Buddhism is not a belief system? He said as he is wearing holy colored clothing dictated by his Buddhist belief system. Just how blind can the 'enlightened' be?
What colour is a holy colour? Is red holy?
I think he meant in a larger context. But still your point is pretty valid.
When he says that Buddhism is no belief system it means exactly that. Buddhists don't do anything because Buddha said. We don't lie, steal, kill, intoxicate ourselves, indulge in adultery or use our words to hurt people because we know how we feel and how these things affects us. Buddha said don't follow me blindly just because I said it. If it agrees with you factually then accept it. It's like using your coon sense. See things as they really are.
The yellow robes are for simplicity. Non attachments for worldly things. Monks wear yellow robes to show humbleness or grounded. You can leave the monastery anytime you want.
Bull shit 😤.
Is it New Scientist or New Ageist? I just unsubscribed.
il m what concerns you about this?
✌️each to their own. U might like Scientology 😂
Woo woo and snake oil seller talks with scientists? NO THANK YOU.
Read about the science of meditation first. Plenty of neuroscientist, plenty of studies out there.