Why McLaren’s major Ferrari F1 recruit is gone already
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- McLaren’s bid to end a wait of more than a decade to fight for F1 titles again was meant to be turbocharged by high-profile signings joining from big rivals over the winter - but one of them has already left.
David Sanchez was the first, and the biggest, of McLaren's new technical recruits - which made him a symbol of McLaren’s ambition, stature, and team principal Andrea Stella’s bold new plan to share the technical workload, encourage creativity and provide good, clear communication.
After just three months, though, Sanchez is out. One of the key pillars of the original McLaren restructuring from a year ago has gone, having barely had any time to influence things in a positive way.
So why’s this happened, how does it fit into McLaren changing its technical organisation yet again, and what does it mean for what McLaren is trying to achieve?
00:00 Intro
01:43 What's happened
03:44 What changed
05:35 Why couldn't it work?
07:57 A blow to McLaren?
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Too many chefs in the kitchen.
It's the big chef holding the team back. He has inferiority complex. Out of shape. Limp and insecure with his manhood.. McClaren will never win until it hires a qualified boss...
And Fat Brown is among those chefs pretending to do something.
@@Kimmurial333he deals with marketing/sponsorship. Whether u want to agree or not that IS a skill
Except its a very silo type of thinking. Its one of the many reasons why Ferarri have found themselves in this position. No one talks to each other and its very hierarchical
@@NicotineRosberg Right on. Need that money from marketing and sponsorship to run the operation!
Either he got promised something but got another completely different thing OR McLaren from the time they hired him did more restructuring which ended up making his role redundant but they couldn't fire him before he even started & finished his gardening leave.
Youre being far too digital. Shades of grey exist
Sanchez was right to leave. Accepting a lesser role automatically takes you several steps back in your career. Rather leave and join another team than take a demotion at McLaren
The Race is delusional for justifying Stella's decision as good leadership. He only fixed what was clearly a human resources mistake. I wonder if the editor of this channel would like it if they were offered a senior job elsewhere, only to end up being their editor's assistant and then told that they're not integrating well.
Why did you leave out David Sanchez's interview??? Scott always just runs with his own story without looking at what the people hes lying about actually said. glad to see Scott is still lying and refusing to do research with each video
Guy being hired under false pretenses and demoted before he's even started somehow turned into him being the problem, having specific issues and not being a team player while Mclaren are beyond reproach? How much did Brown pay for this hit piece?
Came to write the same comment. You literally describe things like "he couldn't accept a reduced role". Bro if my company suddenly told me I'm part of a team instead of leading one I wouldn't feel very "accepting" and probably get the hell out asap!
@@ytjessaie exactly this. Commentary like this will eventually make unsubscribe from "The race".
2 hit pieces in a month, it will happen if it affects their favored drivers and teams.
What really happened was the team restructured and the role that he was hired for no longer existed. They could fire him before he started working for them, so they just kind of let it ride and hoped for the best. He didn't like his new role and left.
@@ImReverseGiraffe
What you’re saying is that Zak/McLaren has no solid vision or plan to achieve it. ‘Letting it ride’ and ‘hoping for the best’ are not winning strategies. When you hire someone months in advance you’re expected to deliver on your promise, not say “Oops!”.
The person who wrote this script definitely has some beef with Sanchez. Never have i heard that much personal criticism in technical roles moves
That personal criticism comes from anonymous Ferrari sources, the piece was clear about that.
Because it appears to be a more personal issue than a technical one. He refused to adapt to the system McLaren has implemented, and all of the sources provided talk a lot about him as a person, saying he doesn't work well in a team etc. It's not that he wasn't good enough, or that he thought he should work for a better team, its that his personality was incompatible with the system.
Also, to be clear, its still definitely not right of them to blame Sanchez when he was essentially given a demotion after he'd already signed a contract, and made to work in different situations than were initially presented, but its not like its only The Race criticising him, ego/ being hard to work with has been reported about him for a long time. No doubt that neither side were probably happy with the arrangement.
your brain has beef
Its a living😜
they did the Sanchez Dirty
You could say they gave him a Dirty Sanchez
Pinning this on Sanchez is insane.
That's one hell of a "reading between the lines" mate. I know opinion pieces are more popilar, but this felt unnecessary to suggest Sanchez wasn't willing to change without actually even interviewing them.
Sigh.
Seems likely he was hired to be Technical Director and then McLaren pulled the rug out by splitting that role into 4. Pretty odd decision for them, it means there is no one person who has overall technical control & responsibility. Likely to result in a lot of finger pointing when things don't go well.
Rob Marshall looks like he’s now in sole control of building the car. Hence Stella’s “these issues might take a year to fix”, like when the Rob Marshall designed MCL39 hits the track in 2025.
People forget what happened last year... the biggest change of fortune in F1 for the last decade or two. You are talking as if it us alpine. They went from fighting alpha taurie and alpha romeo to fighting ferrari, merc and redbull. Even with the least evolution they are still third best car during the start of the season. So why change something that work.
This is not a good look on McLaren, because it will tell future potential employees to be careful about McLaren, because the job you have applied and signed up for, is not the job or role they are actually offering.
4:11 if you want to skip the interminable waffle
How much Zak paid you guys?
You can be excellent or even brilliant at the technical aspects of an engineering position but that doesn’t make one a works well with others individual.
McLaren did sandbag by not providing the job they had offered.
Better to part ways now for both parties.
McLaren: We make it up as we go.
We have some of the same issues at my job with a particular project we call Maintenance Agreements. There used to be one person in control of managing them, and now we have 3 or 4 and it has caused major confusion, as things get lost in translation when trying to relay information between so many ppl. My words to the person who used to run it solo were, "we used to have one person in charge of everything, now we have four ppl in charge of nothing"
"Bureaucracy is the rule of no one." - I forget who said it.
Lol people here think they are taking about alpine. You know this organisation had the biggest change in performance in the last 10-20 years in F1. They chose not to break a structure that saw them gibfr9m f8ghting last uears two alphas car, to redbull ferrari and Merc.
IMHO, I don’t think the 2026 regulations are actually going to make it for 2026… with all of the issues teams are pointing out with the cars, I reckon it’s going to be 2028 before they’re ready for all the huge changes
To get 2026 regs to work they need to remove the fuel rate limit all together.
@v4skunk739 What your thought train? I was under the impression the complete PU output was to remain the same but the electrical side has to produce double what it does now. Therefore the ICE isn't required to produce as much. How is the fuel flow increase going to help? The struggle will be how to keep the battery pack small, have a way to always have it charged enough as RB has expressed they believe teams can't atm and there will be a lot of d rating at the end of straights.
@@neilmowles3135 Fuel allowance is being cut for 2026. Go look up what some of the drivers are saying that have tested the 2026 car in the simulator. Slower than F2 cars. Super unstable too when using the new DRS active aero.
@v4skunk739 Your right, I forgot that they have changed from fuel mass to fuel energy flow per hour. It will be a loss of almost 300 hp from the ICE. 500 to 600 hp from ICE and 470 from mgu-k. This will be interesting to see how it works out. It seems they have changed the battery size from 4MJ which would only last 11 seconds on a 22 second Baku straight. Who knows it's new size at its not been stated 🤷♂️. As for the GP2 quotes it's only been said as teams have tried a simulation similar to taking corners with drs open and wondering why it won't work. It's going to be front and rear drs which will help the imbalance. How it will be controlled is still up in the air 🤦♂️. Apparently the low drag, bigger batteries and control of max energy usage of the mgu-k at top speed will sort the gear down problems at the end of straights.
A lot of your statements on Sanchez are pure speculation and leave you open to being sued for slander.
Could you put one example?
For 1, speculation in media is hardly unique to The Race. Secondly, no, in practice you cannot sue someone for being mean to you on the internet. You technically can but they literally never go anywhere because its impossible to prove. How do you prove whether its a CZcams video saying you're an asshole that prevented you from getting a job, or that you actually are an asshole? Either side cannot prove it either way, so you just sit in limbo draining money until you call it off.
a lot of the personal criticism about sanchez was from anonymous ferrari employees. and ferrari has been doing better since he left.
the race is just presenting what is being presented in the news, they aren't making their own statements
It doesn't matter if he is individualistic. When you have an agreement, when you have a contract with clear terms and once you join, you experience something completely different, then you have every right to say, fuck you. If you don't like it, you end his contract. As simple as that
Which is what happened. McLaren acknowledged Sanchez’ point of view and let him go.
@@Leith_Crowther my comment is in regards to, the point in the video that presents him as self-centred and not willing to adjust to the new terms. You cannot know what he is like, especially when it seems that there was a breach of terms from McLaren's side. My issue is not with McLaren but with the commentary in the video
Honestly just seems like they're trying to sensationalise this for both sides. They make it sound like this is a massive drama, when in reality they probably split on decent terms - both sides seem to understand that what they signed him up for wasn't what he got given their going through a massive structural change that wasn't fully realised when they agreed on his contract. If anyones to blame its probably Mclaren, but no blame really has to be assigned.
This is an atrocious structure and I would have left if I was Sanchez.
Maybe a video explaining what all these roles ACTUALLY mean would help the average fan to understand these changes.What is the difference between a a technical director for "engineering" and 'performance"? What are the difference between a chief designer and the rest of them in a daily bassis?
A shame for Sanchez that he’s not at McLaren and left Ferrari given the momentum they have
I would argue that Ferrari's momentum Is because Sanchez and others have left.
Somehow the “journalists” at The Race will shift the Sanchez exit to part of a larger Redbull scandal.
Was there a change of management or staff for this channel at some point? It seems like I remember them posting quality content in the past but all I remember from the last year or so is crap like this
If I was to bet on Sanchez's next F1 move.... Alpine would be the best bet due to the direct Engine tie up as no other manufacturer would have the capacity available. Haas looks okay, but as they are re-structuring, that's fairly off, even with the use of Ferrari engines, but those two looks logical.
I like that one, Alpine is a good choice. I was thinking Aston Martin and Lawrence Stroll's right now open chequebook.
@@lxndr3299they have fallows
Le Pain
Imagine wanting to work in Alpine. OMEGALUL
When you demote people because you have the opportunity to hire somebody, that tells you something about the org. They screw people careers.
Or maybe he was promised one thing and then got thrust into something completely different which was a breach of trust?
The clickbait+sensationalism is strong here
"Why McLaren's major Ferrari F1 recruit is gone already"...yes, very clickbaity
@@Vislow The worst part is they just kinda pin it on him and forget that McLaren themselves said they changed the job description unilaterally
McLaren blame culture is still alive and strong, clearly.
a lot of the personal criticism about sanchez was from anonymous ferrari employees. and ferrari has been doing better since he left.
I was looking at the updated Wikipedia pages for who made McLaren’s chassis, assuming the company updates them (most companies with a high public profile would). Looking at the 2000s specifically, but I went as far as the MCL38 chassis page out of interest. It shows Rob Marshall as Chief Designer and the Technical Director group (inc Sanchez) as “other designers”. Comparing it to older chassis (its easy to move from year to year, which is why is was using Wikipedia), Adrian Newey is only listed as the top name for the late 1990s - early 2000s chassis, this changes at mid-2000s after the non-racing MP4-18.
Its no absolute guide, but these pages are about assigning the engineering credit correctly. They suggest that in 2024 Stella runs the team & Marshall builds the car. Everyone else is really a department head in this process. This is probably what Sanchez wasn’t going to work within as McLaren changed their mind when Marshall agreed to join them. Although everyone gets a “promotion” in job title, Marshall gets full control of the car design in a Newey style.
I like how all the blame is put in sanchez shoulders and it is not considered maybe he was the losing one here, by some power struggle the others may have had...
a lot of the personal criticism about sanchez was from anonymous ferrari employees. and ferrari has been doing better since he left.
This seems more like the merging of team principal and chief technical officer rather than the old matrix structure. And given that mclaren have a seperate ceo and a very capable engineer as its team principal this doesn't seem outrageous
With this in mind, it makes sense that sanchez wouldn't be happy, if he was expecting to be CTO and is instead having to report to one thats not gonna feel great
Andrea Stella deserves a lot of credit. I have led large engineering organizations and have had to let go of chief and principal leaders because they are not good team players. Ferrari and McLaren have dodged a bullet. Tools and processes don't make performance, people do.
David’s contract was way more than they wanted to pay and getting him to “walk away” was the only way to get out of it without having to compensate him for it. Why they “demoted” him without telling him.
McLaren has a history of doing this. It's why Newey left.
Or heck just look at Jost Capito, guy lasted just 3 months at Mclaren before they got rid of him.
Great and really well thought article, as always guys, i don’t doubt he will fare good in the future, as mclaren will
Seems like a piece of mis-matched expectation and reality: how many people leave during their probation period because the role isn't what they expected or wanted? Really hope for McLaren's sake that the structure is good, and not they're going to end up realising in 2026-28 that this was a waste of time.
I like how if you look at the management structure now, Andrea Stella is working under Andrea Stella.
How are y’all blaming Sanchez for not accepting a demotion 💀
For real, cars are now so unique and sensitive to their own concept that gardening leaves should simply no longer apply and when you strike a deal and sign the dotted line, you show up next Monday in the position you agreed to. And if it doesnt work, you just move along without another gardening leave.
You’ve got to have the right butts in the right seats. This is an important process to getting the right people and I have 0 problems with this. The book Good to Great talks about CEO’s coming through and spending the first few years tinkering and moving people into the perfect seat to get their best.
Perhaps he's gunning for the team principle role at Alpine?
MClaren is always "we need another year to sort our issues" next year comes and the issues still arnt sorted. This also feels like a result of that.... Always chopping and changing
McLaren: working hard to become the next Alpine.
Scott M-M: working hard to lose an audience.
Sanchez is know for his knowledge on Aero, so it's not a surprise he is not fitting into the current structuree
What if this was a 'Kansas City Shuffle'?
I feel like half these videos could be done in like 5 min max.
The fact that you justify McLaren and their team principal dismissing a recruit who was hard done by underdelivering on a promise is ludicrous.
I've worked automotive engineering for a decade and "Performance" isn't a real discipline, I can imagine he got there and found he didn't have any influence compared to engineering and aerodynamics.
I suppose if it was never going to work for Sanchez, it was better to let him go now than drag the issue well into the season. Maybe he felt he deserved a bigger role in the team which McLaren couldn't or wouldn't accommodate?
It's fascinating to see how this type of stuff happens to high positions as well, not just people like you and me. The job you signed up for is not the job that is actually there for you when you start 😂😂😂
7:57 is not a major drama... Makes 10min video about it 😂
What’s the point in the cost cap if it excludes some things like top three staff?
Because it would be too fucking spensive
the cost cap mainly applies to car performance and development. it helps curb the richer teams without making it completely even
It is good of McLaren as an organisation not to just hold on to Sanchez just to prevent another team getting use of him
5:55 interesting that the piece of data is blurred, but hopefully it's not that crucial... blurring can be fairly easily reversed
McLaren wouldn’t have released it if it were ‘crucial.’ The tiny bit of ‘data’ that might be revealed by one partial, blurry and obscured screenshot of some unknown activity at some unknown date, at an unknown facility is not something McLaren need to worry about at all.
@@alias19 oh stuff like this is never really "crucial", but any competitive advantage teams can get, they will. And they should.
McLaren dubbed it important enough to blur it in the first place. That fact alone should make teams want to unblur it
Blurring is non-destructive, so teams can reverse that to original footage with ease, with the right tech guy. Data is data, and teams want as much of it as possible
@@shadywhisper8455 They could gather more intel by walking down pit lane or watching broadcast coverage of garage video. No tech guy required.
@@alias19 but they could gather more. In this age of limited on-track testing, on-track data is worth more than gold. And what makes it worth while is the fact they hid it. What are they hiding?
That specific part of the graph could reveal an engine trick or electrical deployment trick other teams haven't figured out yet. It's no different to hiding tricks like secret launch control in the 90's, the McLaren 2nd brake pedal, or any innovative trick on all of F1. Why hide it if it's not important?
And I'd wager you could get that unblurred for less then 100 bucks. Possibly even for free on reddit or somewhere like that. A simple black bar would have been problem solved
@@shadywhisper8455 You think F1 espionage is going to play out over Reddit?? 😂For a random 1s clip of some unknown activity at some unknown date, at an unknown facility for unknown reasons?! They have no way of correlating whatever goop is onscreen to anything McLaren are doing.
Has anyone considered things like this is why the big teams don't want Andretti in the club. Andretti seems to be able to gather a lot of money very quickly. And be able to buy personnel from under the other established teams or out bid them in the open market.
Its because f1 is run by weak men afraid of competition
F1 is becoming a monopoly
Always has been
@@inahole2678 already is
The teams don’t want more competition - that includes on track and off track with fighting over staff, sponsors etc.
Of course the teams don’t want more competition and wouldn’t be doing their jobs right if they were pro-Andretti, the issue is that the teams simply shouldn’t have a say in the matter
I wonder if, despite knowing this ahead of time, the fact that Sanchez may have thought himself more senior than Stella when they were both at Ferrari. Going to report to a former colleague is one thing but being one of many reporting to your former peer is another. I can just imagine that happening in other types of company and it never works out well - especially when the folks involved have significant egos.
i love how you use f-23 gameplay😭🙏
what is the difference between design and aero? seems like they are directly related...
In some European countries, 3 months is the trial period lol
There will be a change of regulations in 2026 and it seems mclaren will be at trouble once again, honestly Why not making a category where only Mercedes, Red Bull and ferrari race but with 5 cars each?
To anyone at The Race: You... You are aware that it's Sanchez who left, right? Because by the end of the video you make it sound like he was fired. Also, I'm not sure depicting someone has having a bitt on an ego to accept the change of his status, when you don't have all the facts (as you clearly didn't) is a good look.
or maybe they thought he would bring some Ferrari secrets... :)
Another typical “We’ll stay mid” Zak Brown decision
Remember, in F1, most of these people are highly intelligent...
All that means is that intelligence does not separate them from one another...politics does.
Can you imagine working at a formula 1 team headquarters to only work at a cubicle? God corporate life sucks.
Deep thinking over at The Race. Nice spot.
Just think of all the Ferrari "drama" he could have brought to McLaren.
Realistically McLaren has just copied Red bull core concept to an extreme and then added in the sidepods designs of Aston Martin and alpine
There is too much editorial in this and lots of charges language like “bend over backwards for him.” This video sounds a lot like the drama at Red Bull videos this channel made in an effort to stir up engagement.
Marshall is epic ..tech
Back to Ferrari. Here is McLaren weaknesses. Sweet.
Sharing technical knowledge about other teams with your new employer is highly illegal in F1 (see Spy gate), and probably violates many NDAs, which would let Mclaren sue him for an absolute shit load of money.
The engineers are becoming stars, I wonder if they will start attracting groupies soon?
After finding out 2026 engines are just going to be the generators for the electric motor I am not watching formula 1 in 2026 and after😊
Probably just left once they'd finished the photocopying 🤷
Sanchez got a call from Alpine with an attractive payment. The money was so high he came up with this bullshit to leave McLaren.
Maybe he wanted to really use his extensive knowledge of MS Excel but they updated before he got there.
McLaren with the dirty Sanchez
nice insight
I think it shows McLaren are trying to find improvements both on and off the track. Hopefully this is all building on the work put in over 23 and not a step back.
Hopefully the 2025 Mclaren won't be overweight
Give Alpine to Sanchez then.
Ahh yes the race: British team good, engineer bad.
As long as McLaren keeps the blue off the livery... All is well.
Video starts @3:00 😂
Why do ye use what looks like video game footage of cars on track?
More realistic that way
Let’s be clear McLaren have not lived up to their name for how long now? 1998/1999 ? even longer than Ferrari,yet Ferrari get shit on constantly by the Brit’s. Lol don’t get me started with Williams…
The Race should do a podcast to share this kind information. The images of this video ad almost nothing
I would simply not look at the screen whilst I listen.
To be fair, a lot of this is speculation.
Another great video!
Deep research, excellent explanation and a wonderful clear and logical conclusion. That’s peak F1 journalism. I have criticised the highly speculative videos you guys made in the past. But videos like this one are the reason for why I love The Race. Great job!
Maybe Sanchez realized he really enjoys gardening leave.
so is sanchez back to ferrari?
no why should he go back to ferrari? he was basicaly fired
@@parabelluminvicta8380 ok, just asking
Reversed Spygate?
Nope a Free agent
Given his nature as a difficult person to work with, I do wonder if he will stay in the F1 circus
He looks like an energy vampire anyway..
What... What... ASTON behind WILLIAMS in 23 british gp
Sanchez to Sauber for Audi.
Sanchez's skills are more needed at Alpine. He will be the big boss at Enstone. As he is French, that should reduce the communication issues with Viry.
I feel like Sanchez wanted to be his car and didn’t want to share the responsibility with others.
McLaren also probably overpromised him a role that he eventually never got.
McLaren also like mentioned in the video probably realised what roles they need and what they don’t with the new structure
It's interesting that Ferrari has been a better team since Sanchez left. A coincidence? I wonder. So, where can Sanchez go? How about Renault? 😇
Blaming the guy who was lied to on his job offer is really weird and off putting. The section from around 6:20 to 8:00 where you guys pin all of this on Sanchez stuck out like a sore thumb. It came off like the person who wrote the script for this had a vendetta again Sanchez, was desperately trying to get on the good sign of McLaren, or something else peculiar.
Please do better. The main reason I enjoy your channel is that you usually avoid that kind of garbage. Ya'll are the only F1 media coverage I actually enjoy, but if this is the kind of stuff you're going to be doing in the future I'll just go back to avoiding all F1 media coverage.
I didn't realise the race was the PR department of mclaren
McLaren don’t know what they want or how to set up the Technical Department.
Long Story Short... He is going 2 Alpine