The Nonexistent Country That Could Ignite Another War in the Red Sea
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
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The Red Sea is smoking: from the conflict between Israel and Hamas to the US and UK attacks on Houthi positions in Yemen, tensions in the region have skyrocketed.
Now, a new conflict lurks in the Horn of Africa: relations between Ethiopia and Somalia are on the brink. The reason? A territory: the self-proclaimed independent Republic of Somaliland, which, while still a recognized territory of Somalia, has managed to reach a historic agreement with Ethiopia.
Why has Ethiopia approached Somaliland, and can this move really start a new war? Or, on the contrary, is it possible that huge international interests will prevent such a scenario?
#Africa #RedSea #Somaliland
Africa should recognize Somaliland. Somaliland deserve
If VisualPol is talking about history, it shouldn't fail to clearly mention that Siad Barre bombarded Somalilalad cities and killed 200,000 Somalilanders, including women, children, and non-combatants after the SNM fought back against Mogadishu's blatant killing & maiming locals. By the way, the main reason Somaliland decided to secede from the Republic of Somalia.
You wouldn't see that mentioned here, since a independent Somaliland goes against US interest.
The same thing Somaliland army did by shelling unionist states of Somaliland for 8 months straight murdering women and children
@ninween6865
According to the UN less than 40 civilians died, it's not the same.
@@riser7795- “goes against US interests”
Ummm… this channel has nothing to do with US interest.
As a side note, US interests are in securing maritime peace for safe trade.
Once you understand that the US just wants it Grape Leaves 🍃, Kababs, Spices, and such… you will understand US interests. The US has people from all over the world living there, and those expatriates just want food 🍱 & items from their home nations.
Ethiopia 🇪🇹 having port access via Somaliland has the potential to help stabilize things, since another regional force will be able to help ensure security. China 🇨🇳 has done nothing [violating international law] when ships 🚢 made distress calls from pirates, perhaps Ethiopia 🇪🇹 will.
Muuse Bihi also killed thousands of his own people
Lived long enough to see multinational 4 conflicts in the Middle East
Considering Somalia isn’t looking to be functional, I think it’s fair for Somaliland to go it’s own way. It does have history of being separate like Eritrea
Somaliland has sepratidst inside it, a Somali clan can not call them selves a country, Dir clan (western Somaliland the one bordering Djibouti) and Darod clan (eastern Somaliland in sool sannag and caayn) are unionist
@@TheMystixCube yeah, but as mentioned this is different. Somaliland has a history of being separate from greater Somalia due to separate colonies. Like how Eritrea and western saraha are the most accepted separatist movement in Africa
In fact the rulers of Somaliland should take over and teach the guys at Somalia how to run a country.
@@DipJyotiDeka Somalia is now functional, we doing oil deals with turkey, and were winning the civil war which is now confined to the south
@@TheMystixCube Lol I feel like having a civil war still on-going deflates the point of stability
No Ethiopia and Somalia are not going to go to war. Africa should recognize Somaliland to hell with what the west thinks.
Somaliland has sepratidst inside it, a Somali clan can not call them selves a country, Dir clan (western Somaliland the one bordering Djibouti) and Darod clan (eastern Somaliland in sool sannag and caayn) are unionist
To be fair, the biggest supporter of Somalia is Turkey
like it or not, the west control the global narrative. Africa will need their buy in if they want to recognize Somaliland
@@TheMystixCube cap orphan faqash
Recognise them for what😂
Support Self-determination; support Somaliland!
That will only benefit the enemies of the Somali people and we will never allow that to happen.
Right on! Free Donbass as well!!!
It's a federal state of somalia
Question: I've heard almost everything about what Somalia was like post-independence... but what was it like before independence? Was it as chaotic as it was post-independence?
@@cashewnuttel9054 It was a few different nations including Djibouti, half of Ethiopia, and north Kenya.
Those areas constitute the somali ethnic territories.
There were wars but it was more stable than now.
Sources from European and Chinese sources also state small amounts of pre-colonial industrialization and multi-story buildings up to 5 stories.
Overall better in most ways to now.
Basically a shallow analysis. The international community always refuses to recognize countries achieving independence unless this occurs with a peace treaty from the central government. The US's opposition doesn't arise because of worries about interference with its counter terrorism operation, but because it doesn't want to encourage Russia in creating additional separatist countries on its periphery. China doesn't want an independent Taiwan. Spain doesn't want an independent Catalonia. India doesn't want an independent Kashmir. Iran and Pakistan doesn't want an independent Balochistan, and nobody wants an independent Kurdistan.
Those all have a claim based on ethnicity/religion/history all which are not present here
These are more fair than this.
To be more precis maybe unrecognized country could be the headline
Somaliland exist before Somalia when it gained independence 4 days before in 26 June 1959
and Somalia gained independence 1 July 1959..
I am shamed of watched your propaganda Videos
1960*
ethiopian deserves sea
The title made me think this was about Palestine at first.
There will be no war between Somalia 🇸🇴 and Ethiopia but there could be the last war between Somalia 🇸🇴 and Somaliland.
Somaliland is older then the failed country Somalia 🇸🇴
UAE had port Agreements with Somaliland with out Somalia support they treated Somaliland before and there is nothing they can do about this agreement between Somaliland and Ethiopia
😂😂 you're confused. UAE deal was approved by the federal govt.
Considering that Somaliland didn't actually want to be the breakaway guy in this, they just wanted a normal country in a land that was batshoit crazy, I think what should be recognized is that Somalia is batshoit crazy. If the world is going to support Somalia as the independent country, then it needs to be with the stipulation that it boots out the terrorists, and adopts the working solution that Somaliland has created.
😂 not how it works.
Why is your B roll of Ethiopia always showing the worst parts of the country? Ethiopia has beautiful stunning landscapes and very beautiful city’s like Bahir Dar, Hawassa and a modern metropolitan capital city, Addis Ababa. Guys please don’t be lazy with your stock b roll when you produce African related videos. Other than that the content is appreciated.
They do it to all of africa.
Even somalia that they always point out isn't doing great is much prettier than what they show, and is safer than many tourist areas like the carribean.
In the area of, The horn of africa
Not red sea
Saw the title, instantly thought that was Taiwan
Somalia has never even been a functional state. It will never be a functional state. However Somaliland has achived peace and order and should be allowed to go their own way.
Respect Somalia big bro
Sorry Oromo but somalia will come back & u won’t be happy ! Tomorrow don’t claim Muslim
😂😂 I see abiy ahmed
yes it has lol are you getting confused during the 60s and 70s when somalia was peaceful then civil war happened
@@MrYounis26respect Somaliland the mother country of Failed Somali republic😊
Wrong information. Somaliland is NOT separatist. Somaliland existed BEFORE Somalia.
Yes and no Somaliland did exist before Somalia but it did join and get unified in to Somalia before it then later tried to become independent again. Calling them separatist is not technically wrong.
@@johnlynch1353 learn the history. Somalia came to existence on the 1st of July, Somaliland was 26th June so yeah it existed way before failed state of Somalia.
"20.000 people lost their lives"
How did they "lost" them?!
Visualpolitik are Israeli apologists. Every time they speak about them, they downplay their crimes.
CZcams algorithms demonetize videos if they say the word "k!ll" in them. So they have to use phrases like, "lost their lives," or "end of life," or sometimes you hear hosts say "this resulted in serious un-aliving."
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When live gives you an enemy like Somalia 🇸🇴. Fight like Somaliland
Spell right idoor yahow 😂
The Countries born once. Somaliland become independent country on 26 1960 bofre the failed Somalia 🇸🇴 existed.
What happened to your scottish dude? Haven‘t seen him in a long time.
Great thumbnail. Pure truth
Umm, how about we put the pressure on Somalia not Ethiopia? We should recognize Somaliland and offer trade deals to Somalia. Peace would be so easy with this one...
Somalia barely exists as a country. What exactly can they do against Ethiopia? Somaliland functions as a country. Somalia does not.
You have no idea what that will cause
@@user-zz4xu5wo2c the international community supports a failed state whose failure led its people to piracy over a functioning break away region that could actually do things to stop the piracy because they are concerned that if the failed state fails even harder it could lead to even more piracy in that states waters. Or put another way international community supports status quo of pirates over potential solution to minimize the issue.
😂😂😂 you have no idea...
@@johnlynch1353 Nope not that either, Somaliland is run by a single clan that makes up the majority about 65% of it's total population, give it recognition and it will purge the other 35, as it almost did last year. When the UN and neighboring states begged Somaliland to stop assailing one of their minor clans, it never listened, hinting to the genocidal signs that comes with statehood already witnessed in nearby South Sudan. But the unruly minor clan specialized in warfare and was so well armed that they beat Somaliland military, that clan had also a large backing from their kinsmen clans in Somalia and Ethiopia which they belong to, thus Somaliland being badly mauled lost 45% of it's territory (check Somali civil war map) including most of it's arms to the clan that now rejoined Somalia, establishing a local administration (Khatumo state) binding with Federal Somalia
@@user-zz4xu5wo2c I not saying it’s perfect or even necessary good all I’m saying is it is at least functional for 65% of it’s people which is far more than you can say for Somalia itself. It is the lesser of two evils not the better of two goods.
Besides None of what you said contradicts what I said my statement. My statement was Somaliland is a more functional state than Somalia is that can could likely handle the pirate problem far better than Somalia can because of how much more stable it is but the international community would rather prop up the failed Somalia in hopes that the situation does not get worse than attempt to actually solve the underlying issue. Non of that argument is reliant Somaliland being a good place.
Long live Somaliland Ethiopian cooperation ❤ you from Kenya 🎉
People of Somaliland are just tired of the nonesense going on in Somalia and want their own country. Somalia is just such a depressing state, so many foreign militaries and greenzones, war and death everywhere. I dont blame Somaliland for trying to get out of a failed state.
Bro you didn't mention the true history somalis are 5 Djibouti nfd which the British gave kenya and ogaden which again the British gave to Ethiopia somalia and somaliland so somaliland tried to unite in 1960 but Somalia in return holocausted somaliland people and somaliland in return had enough returned there independence from somalia
Hmm. What a big complicated situation. My question is why the heck Djibouti cancelled the deal with Ethiopia. Sounds like there should be negotiations between Ethiopia and Djibouti and other nations in order to settle the dispute.
Because ethiopia is in a 5 way civil war and causing ethnic conflict on every front to the point where it spilt over into Djibouti
Somaliland was independent before failed state of Somalia when it was under the UN trusteeship and Italian colonial. Somaliland was annexed by Somalia, in 1961 was the 1st freedom movement to take back their country.
False
Somaliland was a UK territory, never Italian
I do not think it will lead to open conflict.
Come you talking a lot of geography without showing the maps on the screen
you're pretty biased I have to say. Favourite part was were you neglected to mention what ships the Houthis were attacking.
Civilian ships
All ships they thought of attacking in order to send a message, including a Norwegian ship going to Norway transporting toys. You do realize saying something i.e which ships you'll attack, and doing something ie which ships you actually attack are two different things
Get Somaliland a new country.
Somaliland is not a country but its a regional state of Somalia so they don't have ability to enter an agreement with another country
Basically, the problematic situation about this is the government is dominated by one clan. The region somaliland regime was trying to sell is predominantly inhabited by my clan, we are clearly against actions of this secessionist state and whatever that MOU was.
Another war? When has that part of world nit been in wat?
UAE need to recognize solialand as a independent country now
Lol they can't legally
What you miss out is the fact that 60% of Somaliland residents are unionist clans.. on Dec 2022 Somaliland military attacked the civilians of Lascanod, a unionist city in Somaliland which led to the locals tacckling the army and defeating them.
Today, Somaliland army controls about 50% of the land and the rest are in the hands Somali unionists who doesnt want secession
Nice try mate. 75% of somaliland is Isaaq who all want somaliland to be independent. the second largest is Samaroon who’s majority want independence. Controls 50%? If the east side of Sool with a couple of small towns is 50% of somaliland you need to go back to school. Fact is, majority of somaliland is Isaaq and it is their will that will succeed inshallah. Baseless delusional propaganda will only leave you bitter and sad. You will see
@@Reallander1991 I'm Gadabuursi from Borama and personally i have no problems with anyone in Somalia or Somaliland. The thing that baffles me is that people in Somalia truly believe we want to be apart of Somalia?! have they lost their minds?
My dad always gets pissed about politics in Somaliland and bickers with my uncles about it BUT 1 thing they all agree is that Somalia is a finished state with 0 future lol
One of my uncles when i was in Borama lowkey said he'd join Ethiopia before joining Somalia, i asked why and he goes Somalia is Mad Max world 🤣
Thats what most of us say, the current system in Somaliland is much better and why would we want to go back? It's like asking Puntland to hand over all their power to Muqdishu. They will never ever agree to it. May Allah grant all Somalis and muslims peace and end all wars and tribal hatred.
@@agentopaque3776
Somaliland was a indepanded country before , they just going back to the state quote of 1960 boreders
🤔😳🧐 this world MAD Revelation 😡
Taiwan but not Somililand.... US policy is weird
Because its a state not a country
Lose the clicky clack camera sound bytes.
Totally unnecessary and annoying.
Somaliland is the most stable part of the country. They should be allowed hold a referendum if they want to be independent or not. Somalia will be pissed but it's a failed state, you can't blame Somaliland for wanting to break away
😂😂 no it's not
Yes it's
Visualpolitics love keeping the European Union United but a country Somalia let’s see if we can push two country
The title sounds like an advertisement for colonialism
At least there wasn't any genocides during their stay.
It''s pronounced SIad BaRRE. He wasn't English...
Ethiopia wants to divide somalia to gain ports
Djibouti?
And don't blame this on European colonialism. These countries have had plenty of time to sort things out and they haven't.
The problem is this area is made up of tribes of peoples who have no sense of nationalism.
When was the concept of the nation state created?
Not true.
While somali tribalism led to a lot of problems, it was interventions from foreign powers that exacerbates the situation.
Al-shabaab only exists because pro west powers invaded somalia in 2006 and destroyed the moderate government in charge that ended the Civil war by that point.
Thanks to NATO and Ethiopia somalia has to deal with a terror org AND disloyal troops sourced from pro-west african nations to this day.
Somalia does not control its own security and is sanctioned from buying weapons.
It absolutely is the west's fault.
It exists, even flourishes ! It is more stately , peaceful and developed than Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea, Niger, Mali, Liberia, the Banana Republics of South America, Yaman, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Serbia, Haiti, Myanmar, the Congo, Central African Republic and others which are States on paper. It's more democratic and transparent than all the African countries, the Latin American countries, the Middle-East countries except Israel, Central Asia countries, China, Pakistan and others. Despotic, dictatorships, failed, bankrupt entities are called states. For 63 or more official recognition have made nothing out of the Congo, Niger, Yaman, Liberia, Mali, the Philippines, Myanmar and the Banana Republics of South America and the Caribean
Thank you for calling the terrorists in their name
Solialand is independent country Singapore and Ethiopia need recognize solialand as a country
The world should start recognize somaliland as an independent state.
Visual Politik, make a video about a recent terrorist attack in which the SBU of Ukraine was involved, the purpose of which was to incite nationalist hatred (Or maybe they aren't).
Well! Somaliland existed and attained it's independence before somalia, so stop talking about issues which you have no knowledge Abt. The truth is and will always remain that Somaliland is not somalia. period!!!
Don't take Ethiopia lightly. Their population is almost 120 million. They will be a force to recon within a decade.
Ohe Africa one black nation one blood unite ❤marcus
12:30 Uncle Sam
This channel used to be great but recently it's too click batey
Just pumping out content
20 000 thousand people did not lose their lives, they were massacred by the ongoing genocide committed by Israel. Don't water down the facts and try and remain a respectable channel that we enjoy.
What is the interest of United Arab Emirates in supporting this move?
Why should Somaliland be dragged into the swamps? They do good things when it comes to peace and democracy. They have achieved a lot in civil administration, economy and in the fight against terrorism. They should not be barred from establishing their statehood.
2024...what a wonderful year
And it just began. I wonder what will happen in the rest of the year...
They are 1 clan who wants to rule the north of Somalia by force while massacring other clans in the north while negotiating with the federal government and have representatives in the Somali parliament and have key positions in government ministries and still asking to be recognized as state while they are part of the federal government. VIVA SSC Khatuma and Awdal State. From 2022 theirs nothing called Somaliland anymore.
It would improve your credibility if you looked up the pronunciation of names you have to use dozens of times, such as Eritrea, instead of making WA guesses.
This is what happens when you have 8 billion people on the face of the earth!
😂
Somalia 🇸🇴 exists as country and has functional government, somaliland is local region of Somalia 🇸🇴 u don't know the history u are lying the history of Somalia
Somaliland will for ever be there and the red sea will be important for ever as it is today.
What that tellls somaliland recognition is must soon or later.
I think calling somaliland separatist is unfair cuz somaliland have it's own currency, passport and functional democratic government
Sudan is not on the horn of Africa.
Why not leave Somalia it’s a failed state. Somaliland has its own money, passports, stamps, and army it’s functionally an already independent state in every way but on the world stage. They absolutely should be granted their own independence as the region is far more stable then its current government.
Delution as its finest😂
Ethiopian have right to use Port why paying for samll country to much money 😮
😂😂
Multiculturalism does not work very well for countries. We should not fight regions wanting to split off to much.
Shallow information! Go study more somalia
There is forever war,
Somaliland government ❤
I stand with ithopia from somaliland ❤❤❤
Somaliland is not breakaway of Somalia it is restored or birth it's independence of 1960.the will of the people is the will of the God
😂
Somaliland will wing the finally.
Yes ❤ to be recognised somaliland
Somaliland will never ever rejoin the failed state of Somalia..😂😂😂
Part of it already did rejoin Somalia
I tell your the people video that you use video is not somali people even not somalia people and somaliland people your news videos look like false video so take real people that you talk you're taking video people south africa and central of africa please avoid false info
Recognition of the UN is hawks how many failed had seats their like Somalia, Yemen, Libya and how many countries exist without UN and today leading world technology far ahead of the United States like Taiwan. don’t get confused of Somaliland we just regain our lost nation and we don’t want to be part of the failed state of Somalia who even couldn’t afford to govern his capital Mogadishu.
Stopped watching when you started boring on about colonialism. You think only the west colonised? Or do you just hold the bigotry of low expectations that not all peoples are capable of a building stable, prosperous society after any moment of difficulty?
The West still holds colonies to this day. Just think about it.
Dutty Somaliland
Somalia is too weak to ignite war .For the last 33 years somalia has been trying to regain the control of somaliland, but she couldn 't .
Not true
Africa must stop play like the west unite africa
Well Ethiopia just take the last chance to get any seeport connection for their ecomonic and stability.
If all your neihbour country hate you basicly and rejected seeport connection.
Then there is this independ region not country calles somaliland which give you seeport connection why not just accept it ?
Maybe somaliland was not the first chance ,but one of the last hope. In Ethiopias eyes what is worser a civil war or a war ? Both options are bad.
They're in a 5 way civil war
This guy is getting some of his information wrong😒
Your wrong Taiwan among who recognizer among others. Ethiopia is heading that way also....so becareful of your news.
Somaliland ❤
You you talking about non sense you have to resaerch before you talk . Somaliland is not part of somalia. Somaliland is independent country sence 1960 OK you talking about union of british somaliland and and italian somalis un trestship.1960 . 1 somali italiano was not a country who got independent statehood evey but british somaliland protectorate fully got independent country 26 june 1960 so frest that union was illegal beacuse both countries are not same statehood. 1 is under un trestship. And the other one is full country.
If sleepy Joe and the west don’t get their act together and support Somaliland, the only US and Taiwan ally in the Horn of Africa, I am afraid Somaliland will change course by giving into the Chinese and Russians. Whom by the way offered a lot of money to use Somaliland’s deep port/ airport on the coast. Somaliland will achieve its goal of re-recognition, it’s just a matter of time..❤🎉🎉 you also fail to mention that Somaliland and Somalia were two independent countries that merged in 1960…🎉
😂😂
Ethiopia is far more developed economically than Somalia and would easily win against Somalia.
really...during Tigray war, Eritrean defense forces had to save it multiple times from complete collapse. PM Abiy & his so called field marshal army general kept thanking Eritrea for doing for Ethiopia what no other country had/has done. Facts
Hypocracy. They dont recognize independece of Somaliland because they dont want a conflict. Now because Somali could get upset they dont even want to let it take economic agreements.
Meanwhile Taiwan is recognized as independent because of the chips and USA is taking into account even going to war with china about it. Kosovo got independency and Nato membership in lightspeed to checkmate Serbia and create a conflict region.
If it suits Nato independence is a right blabla. If not they dont mention it with 1 word. I didnt know any of this about somaliland😢
Generally one sided declarations of independence are frowned on and rejected in the international community by all countries except by countries who benefit in some way. Usually by the break away from an enemy. The reason for this is it is better for world stability if countries aren’t regularly popping into existence or losing large parts of their territory. This is true, regardless of where you stand in the international community. China does not want to encourage break away possibility like Taiwanese or Tabletten calls for it. While the west does not want things like Scottish or Quebec independence movements. The more successful unilateral declarations of independence. The more, unstable the international political community is.
Somaliland British UK
And somalia Italian
And president somalia genocide somaliland people 😢😢😢
‘Gorilla group’ ???
Somaliland exists and it didn't sell its coast stop the propaganda.