Dual Xeon and 32GB PC for less than £120 ($150) - Can it game??
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- I recently won a Dell T5600 dual Intel Xeon workstation on eBay for just over £100 including postage. This machine has 12 cores and 24 threads total, as well as 32GB of DDR3 memory. After a couple of tweaks I was able to add an RTX graphics card to it as well, but how good is it really, and is it capable of gaming?
0:00 Specs, Price, CPU Performance and Recommended Changes
3:05 Cyberpunk 2077
3:45 Elden Ring
4:18 Mafia Definitive Edition
5:11: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
5:45 CS:GO
6:30 Apex Legends and Final Thoughts
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Recently I developed an open source UEFI module to get Resizable BAR working on Ivy Bridge and newer systems. It gave me an upto 12% performance increase in some games would be interesting to see it tested on more systems
I have a dual 2696 v4 broadwell system. I would love to do some tests for you if possible
Is it open source/released somewhere? I flip a lot of old PCs and always have to benchmark them before reselling. This is anywhere from Haswell, over Zen 1 to Zen 3. So if you need testers, maybe I can provide some insight. Also a software developer myself, but have never looked into UEFI at all.
@@b0ne91 it's called ReBarUEFI
@@Kuri0 found the github thank you. I will be running some test today
Intel ARC Support and implementation for more recent Corebooted motherboards.
I find this sort of stuff just as entertaining as newer gear, just in different ways.
Wouldnt use it as a main rig, but its always fun seeing what older gear can do.
Im also into a few "alternative" OSes where new hardware is very rarely, if ever supported, so systems like this are often the high end of what they can use.
Same here. New parts are usually out of both my budget and needs. All of them are a great choice for my use case so nothing really interesting there. My 3600 will do just fine for years to come as I can't afford top of the line GPU to make it a bottleneck anyway and I don't really need it either.
I just love old hardware for some reason though. I currently have one Haswell Xeon build and already have parts for Sandy Xeon build as well.
@@Negiku I'm a single bloke with no kids and fortunate enough to have a decent amount of disposable income, so have an r9 5900x and just bought an i9-13900k (do a bit of video editing, 3d rendering and a lot of code compiling, so high end gear is useful to me), but I have just as much fun, possibly more with lower end stuff.
For me new stuff is more like a tool. Something I use for work.
I do use it to game on at times, but I'm approaching 50 years old more quickly than I'd like, so my hobby side of computing is more geared towards retro, a little older, and stuff that is aging, but still capable.
New stuff just works without having to think much about and without needing to tweak, etc.
I love tweaking and seeing how far you can push things, which is a part of the hobby missing with new stuff.
I've got systems ranging from commodore 64 to Amigas to 486's and pentiums, p3s and athlon xp, core2duo and quads, 1st gen i7's, 4th gen i5's, 7th gen I3 and i7's, a 6 core xeon based on 1st gen i-core (x5690), a small form factor i7-8700k, plus my modern systems.
Bought about 5 dozen gpus from different eras over the last 6 months too. Just wanted to cover all possible bases of the hobby.
I plan on starting a CZcams channel very soon (just recently started writing some scripts for 1st videos) covering the 8th gen i7 and earlier and the sort of fun I like to have with them, which is why I hoarded a decent collection of gear :)
Sharing a hobby and the things you do with that hobby makes it more fun, so a CZcams channel seemed a good idea :)
And damn, this ended up a much larger wall of text than I'd originally planned.
Think I mightve over-elaborated out of fear of it coming across as a weird geek flex, whereas really I'm just a big nerd who loves the hobby :)
@@beezle1976 that's amazing! Up to last year I was daily "driving" a x5650 as my only rig, and they are not only capable, but also amazing once you overclock it, closing the gap to the older i7's that ran like they wanted to ignite hell on fire lol
The way how this is such a calm and relaxed review I love it. No cheesey background music, just birds off in the distance. Almost an unintentional asmr video.
The "2 CPUs on one motherboard" thing always amazes me, kind of cool!
Yeah it’s a cool sight indeed
I might repeat someone else comment, but you should definitely try it with 4 channel ram config and might be get tweaked bios to play a bit with timings and raise memory bandwidth since it could be a real bottleneck in older server systems. I'd like to see such update video =)
Thanks for you content, keep it up, man!
Those old Dell servers BIOS are locked up tighter than a virgins chastity belt! Unlikely to be able to do any CPU or memory overclocking etc, other than setting Time/Date the first BIOS page is read only. It vwill also be likely the DDR3 RAM is registered/ECC so no joy there with timing adjustments, at least it's not still using Rambus memory otherwise performance would be dire.
My secondary gaming rig is an old dual Xeon Mac Pro that I run Linux on (and Windows 10 for a bit, but my main machine is Windows nowadays... felt redundant). It's still got a remarkable amount of grunt power for a 2010 machine with 2012 chips in it... I run it with a Titan Black and a 19" CRT (or a 30" Mac Cinema Display). These units have come down in price a lot since their heyday....
Great video, I love these workstation sleepers :)
The “handle” is for holding cards in place. Nice to have if your cards fit and you are hauling it around (the case does have a handle after all).
It’s spot welded on and pretty easy to pop off with a few taps on a chisel. Just do it carefully and you won’t even dent the side panel.
I was using a system with two Xeon X5675s and 24GB of ECC DDR3 memory up until a few months ago. Still a very usable system.
I love how he puts the rig on the grass outside! Nobody does that, so simple, yet brilliant touch!
One thing these Dual Xeon boards are great for is a home server / VM machine. plenty cores to through various tasks at. A low profile quadro card or similar for plex would also be worthwhile!
The most thing I see from people using dual xeons is that they just use them to run plenty of Android VMs instances
I think pairing dual xeons with this RTX card like this vid is ok, quadro cards will be sure the better companion with them just because they are designed for workstation. Wanna see how quadro performs in games. I just want to see something out of the usual way we match things
I was using a similar system for my networking and storage, it was an amazing little system for the 5 or 6 years that I was using it. I ended up getting another Dell workstation with a couple 10GB network cards to handle my network traffic and Jellyfin for my rips as well as storage and rendering on occasion, gotta hand it to Dell, they make some killer workstations
@@kildozer2012 just wondering how power hungry it was in idle... As a storage/Plex server
@@mikekane9734 The one that I'm using now (Dell Precision 7820) uses about 25 watts on idle and around 200 watts if hitting it with multiple streams. The system itself can use about 800 watts using synthetic benchmarks but that's not really indicative of the every day use.
I plan on using a wattmeter at some point to see how much power it uses in a months time, but power is really cheap where I live, so I haven't really worried about it.
The old (Dell precision T7610) system used about 85 watts in idle and around 500 watts with multiple streams.
The handle on the "Shield" (hue) is just held on with a few aluminum spark welds that can be easily and quite cleanly removed with a Dremel and a small drill bit (or if you're feeling dangerous, a hammer and a chisel), aim for the little circle marks to either side of the handle. The system fans were more than enough to keep a 480 Red Devil cool with the door on for mine, so most GPUs should stay cool enough.
Was going to say that it looks easily removed with a dremel.
I would be interested in seeing them benchmarks run again with one CPU disabled. I used to run a dual Xeon rig, some games just hated the dual CPU, although it was much, much older than this workstation.
It's the NUMA core layout and a lot of it is bandwidth issues inbetween cores.
Either that or using process lasso to limit games to one cpu
@@Oyashiro_Chama ohh so NUMA is the thing only available on dual CPU systems? i always wondered what is NUMA nodes option in windows. Cuz I haven't have any chance to experience in a dual CPUs system
@@averyoldCZcamsuser not sure either I've never setup bare metal multi socket windows I always use VM
This is what I was thinking too. Dual CPU's bring more issues then they're worth for desktop/gaming use.
I love seeing this type of content. Now I've remembered how I've found your channel. It is the video you've made about Xeon X5650 (posted in Dec 30 2016) that brought me to your channel, and since then I am still following your content.
Awesome! Thanks for sticking around
Great video! The shield bit was brilliant!
Man this brings me back to the good golden times. Techyescity and other channels doing reviews on old 8 core and 12 core xeons and getting them game ready. I was planning to get one of these systems up and ready but sadly couldn't
2:16 had me in tears
I love your content man, keep it up
Tysm for on your overwatch 2 video when you suggested disabling shader cache it’s helped my fps drops alot
Nice video mate love the Xeons cheap and effective. I am still running a 6 core xeon on my 1355 soket motherboard very happy with it.
Enjoyed this one! Have always loved a dual cpu workstation board!
Funny how I started looking at these on ebay like 3 days since they were dirt cheap and had seemingly decent specs! Glad to see you happened to make a video on it haha!
I've used old Xeons for approaching 10 years now, first a hp xw6600 with a pair of 2.83 lga771's and currently a dell t1650 with a single Xeon e3-1270v2 and have been considering the newer dell t5810 for my next system, I think the performance from them is still usable and they just seem to be a bit more reliable as they're classed as workstations rather then just a normal pc.
hey im still running my xw6600 lol. 😂
i just bought a T5810 and replaced the 1607 with an E5 2667v3, and have a 1080 for a card... I couldn't be happier
Ahh I recently have my hands on the LGA771 E5440, is surely a 2.83GHz xeon that is a rebranded of Q9550. Using single one of it on a normal LGA775 G41 board, it works just like a charm : ))). Heavy webpages with complex modern graphics works fine, even games (I purposely used the integrated graphics to force the processing on the CPU but the chip handles fine)
@@kamalashraf4846 dual xeons from the 771 era are so interesting, just wish to try them out
@@averyoldCZcamsuser dual Xeon e5440 beats a single i7 2600k in multi core by a bit. But it loses in single core scores. You will like them I think. They are a bit hot on temps. But put a 14nm or 7nm gpu and the temps will drop from 80 to 65 during stress loads like CZcams.
I have a 2 x E5 2680v2 (20 cores / 40 threads) & 192gb of ram. I don't think those low spec v1 cpus are necessarily worth the money. Probably best to go with the later, v3 or v4 models nowadays.
V3 need x99 sockets.V4 are the low power versions. 👍 the one he is using here is x79.
Nice video! I've got a second hand Dell T7910 as a linux homelab system. For their price they really are unbeatable. I've now spec'd it with 128GB DDR4 and dual e5-2860v4 for a total of 28 cores/56 threads, with 1TB nvme drive via a PCIE adapter. All up has cost me ~$700 USD for a truly silly amount of processing power, and still loads of expandability. It idles at ~90w power, while that is a bit high, again for the power is quite amazing!
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Another great video! I saw one of these on my local Craigslist and it seemed like a decent build I did not end of buying though unfortunately
I've been running my Dell Precision T3500 with a X5690 since 2016 after I bought it for $50. Had to fix & upgrade a few things but I got 6 years out of it so far so I'm happy.
I feel you on this one! I got hold of a HP ProLiant DP380 Gen 5 server with 2 Xeon E5345 4 core CPUs and while it was fun to mess around with, ultimately it sits there waiting to see if I ever come back 😞
I had one of these. Blower style graphics card is highly recommended for this case, it has no rear ventillation option at all.
Content like this makes it worth for the budget gamers like me. Am rocking with a Xeon E3-1270 V3 and i am getting a smooth experience without stuttering in AAA titles.
I cannot recommend this rig more. It was a cold night in 2014 and I heard a noise downstairs, so I grabbed my trusted side panel and went down stairs. The handle grip is perfect and allowed me to protect myself against any individual who came in. Who knows what would've happened without this pc.
Great video as always, but the shield...you read my mind. XD
It reminded me of playing the old Dragon Quest games where the weakest shield was "Pot Lid."
Great bargain for a dual cpu computer and with 32gb of ram? Honestly I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Still proves that more Cores isn't everything as newer gen, higher ipc cpus perform alot better in most games.
The good thing is its coming around now. Old low IPC multi core CPUs are getting more usuable in newer games because of better threading
Main reason it is slow is due to each core being very slow.
I am honestly surprised most of the games utilized all of the cores from BOTH processors. I was really expecting one CPU to be idling while the other did all the work in the game. Very informative video and, as always, very pleasant to watch. I LOVE your approach to gaming builds.
I am currently playing the Resident Evil 2 remake on a Dell Precision T5810 that I found last summer being thrown out. It was filthy and missing the side panel cover but other than that it was complete and it posted. It has an Intel E5-1650v4 with 32gb DDR4 at 2400mhz and a 685w power supply. After thoroughly cleaning it I pulled out the 1tb mechanical drive and put in a 1tb SSD and Win10 Pro and installed a GTX 1070. This system with a 10 series or higher graphics card is SOLID.
the inside aesthetics of the machine is perfect :O kind of reminds me my old asus x99 sabertooth motherboard
You sir are a good guy, the fact you've came up when searching for shit you have made it more promising to me to get the dell emc t440 as my gaming system is getting old now and I'm waiting for ddr5 to me fixed and I Need a server system anyway as smart home and other shit I do like ue5 and houdini workloads means a server will help me so I can keep waiting on ddr5 tech to improve
Just curious if you ever did an update with some of the requests below. Thanks and keep up the great videos. Oh 1 more? what do you do with the hardware after your done reviewing it?
My current rig is a HP Z600 workstation with duel xeon x5670s and 48gb of ram coupled with an Rtx 2060. Still does me well for a bit of gaming, CAD and rendering. I tend to find running at 1440p works well. You would probs get the same frame rate as running at 1080 but using more of the gpu and being less bottlenecked by the processors.
these HP Z6xx are awesome
I have a Z600 and several Z620, all dual CPU configs...the Z620 are fully loaded with 96GB RAM and 32 vCPU
I was thinking of putting in an RTX2060, but was wondering of a 3060TI would be even better
another good thing about the Z620 are they have lots of PSU capacity
I agree. I have a hp z620 with a pair of E5-2690 V1's in it and it serves me well. I have better performance in elden ring than RGinHD owing to a higher CPU clock than displayed in the video at higher resolutions. It's over 10 years old now and its never had replacement parts due to failure. It's another plus to these systems, they were expensive new, but they built them with high quality components.
I have been writing and video editing on HP Z400 workstation with a GeForce card for 6 years.
Workstation $100 Video card $200
New thermal paste before you turn that sucker on.
I ran one of these as my main rig for a good four years from 2016. Mine has power hungry dual Xeon E5-2667's. Just like you said the architecture really struggled with modern titles. I now use it as a media server and it runs brilliantly for this task due to all the cores.
Power hungry is fine in the winter, helps with the heating.
I use a modified Dell T3600 as my main rig right now. In order to get the most performance out of them, Ram checking needs to be disabled in the bios as it restricts the gpu x16 slot to 2.0 mode. Inspectre.exe will also improve performance by disabling meltdown features . Quad channel ram also makes a large difference in performance. I run a single XEON E5 2690 8 Core 16 thread, 32 gb ram, and a RTX 3060. COD Warzone and RDR2 both run at 120fps max settings 1080p with GPU usage around 97% and CPU Usage around 50-60%. I would be curious to see if the performance on this T5600 would increase with the tweaks I mentioned above. Great video as always!
These old XEON rigs are an amazing and cheap way to play older games. I have 4 of them and they cost me next to nothing. All you have to spend is on GPUs and just cleaning and maintaining them. great video
I run some of these older Xeons as part of a Proxmox cluster. I really like HP Z Workstations because they hold up really well for homelab or even small business / non-profit servers.
love videos like this, I see these dells o nthe curb a lot in my area and its always fun to see wat a little elbow grease can do
It could be very interesting to see how this cpu's you test performs in cpu intensive emulation software, like rpcs3.
I know it's not the point of this channel, but when testing workstations I'd love to see more benchmarks on things like 7zip compress/decompress, compiling a linux kernel, encoding a video file and other more workstation-related tasks other than gaming.
The fact that the machine can somewhat game as well it's great to see and very interesting of course.
Yes maybe run some puget systems benchmarks for productivity tasks. Interested in these types of old machines for video rendering
Archiving under linux is interesting to say the least, most codecs are single thread, a few are multi thread and fly. I would guess theres a lot of abandonware (or dead software devs) in the linux distros. (the unmentionable vixxes and hoosters are going to exasperate this situation as devs disappear.)
Mint has serious issues with some software not working or being grossly out of date. Broken thing like Wine
I used to run a similar machine, was a T5610 with a pair of E5 267 V2's and 64gb ram, was a cheap workstation for me but also for gaming since I didn't have space for two machines, good little boxes they are
Yeah my second pc is actually a Xeon build and I use it mostly to play at easier (lighter) games and to test my gpu collection. The rig is composed by:
Xeon E3 1321v3 (4c/8t @ 3.4 GHz), 16Gb DDR3, AsRock H97M, 980ti (at the moment) and Win10 on SSD.
It's awesome to see how well these things still perform for their age! It could be a competitive 1080p gaming system for a lot of people, as long as using SSDs and mabye a lower tier GPU
I would love to see testing with process lasso being used to limit games to running on one numa node/cpu. Also, Apex Legends lets you remove the fps cap if you add +fps_max 0 into the launch options, though there is an engine cap at 300 fps.
Cool video. Nice to see content with these machines. I have a T5610 which was the Ivey Bridge refresh of the line. I have it paired with a GTX 1070 Extreme from Zotac. Runs great.
I would say in many cases it also runs circles around my i5 8400 system which I originally bought as a work from home PC. I run Linux so maybe part of it is OS related. Not sure. Also with the workstation I can disable Spector and Meltdown mitigations from the Bios which also improves performance a bit. It would be nice if overclocking was an option with my system but definitely not a requirement.
I was running an X99 rig for about a year with a single 12C/24T E5 2670 v3 Haswell-EP, and gaming performance wasn't bad at all. Though it wasn't the best for shooters, it was fine with every other type of game. On a 12400F/3060 system now.
I've got a pair of these Dell's with 32 threads and 256GB of RAM. Perfect for video editing. Power supplies last about 10 years, so if you're getting used, expect to have to replace them. You can sometimes find up to 1200W models, allowing you to throw in better graphics cards, but limited by the same power connectors. 3060 is a good match for these motherboards though, or a 2080, as long as they can physically fit. On one dell there was a side wall reinforcement bracket, that I had to break off, as it would obstruct the GPU otherwise. There is a variety of Dell machines that look similar and are from the same era. Mostly dual Xeon's. Their stability is insane, especially with ECC RAM. I've had machines render 3D for weeks without crashing. Regular Intels will hick up at least twice a day under heavy load. Recommended upgrade is a USB 3.0 / USB-C card, to bring it to the modern era, or allow connection of VR gear, such as Oculus. I will mention one important factor though. SLI is not supported. That's right - even though you can technically throw in dual slim Nvidia cards, they will not bridge. Dell didn't license SLI for these.
I'm still running my old Xeon E3 1230-v3 as a daily driver. Paired with my 6700XT (yes, overkill) it's still capable of most games. Just played RE8 Shadows of Rose in 4k without any problems. Still planning to upgrade early next year.
I run a T7810 with dual Xeon e5-2670 v3 chips, 128 gigs of ram, and a 1070 ti. It's a fun pc to mess around with, pretty beast for server and editing use. Gonna get into VMs with it soon, which seems like a ton of fun
Cool test. Really glad you did this test so I don't have to. I don't think games like 2 CPUs - I recommend 1 e5 2667v3 or v4
Those sandy bridge cores still have life in them, my best friends daughter has a old hand me down dell with a i5-2320. For Christmas this year I'm gonna give her one last upgrade before the ol sandy bridge i5 gets retired, a new case with any airflow (thanks dell), new power supply, and a RX 580.
Just last year my main rig was a 2012 or so Dell workstation with dual X5670’s, 24gb ddr3, and a Radeon 7950. I was really surprised what it could play. I played a lot of Wolfenstein II and Doom Eternal on it
That’s awesome
I did use a Xeon E5 2670 version 2 for a bit in 2017-2018 in a gaming machine. It had just enough for single-core performance and loads more for multithreaded games and workloads. It wasn't fast enough to keep up with newer graphics cards at some point. This became apparent with the GTX 2000 series and AMD RX 5000 series releases. These older Intel server chips have brute force but lack newer optimisations. They are still great for editing....
The trick with these machines is to set the all core multiplier to that of the single core boost, that along with some good memory would probably do about 10-15% better depending on the workload
Budget efficient, good to see
I have a Dell T7500 with 2 Xeons and 96GB of ram that I use as a homelab running Proxmox. It's a lot of fun.
Own one of these babies! Received the T5600 free of charge from work in late 2018, after it was decommissioned and officially gifted to me; incl the 825W PSU and 32GB REEC 1600. I upgraded the CPU's from 2x E5-2667 to 2xE5-2689. It's a business looking desktop server, so I bought some vinyl car wrap for the side panel to bling it up with a dark brown 3D carbon look. Paid $12 for a single use WIN10Pro license and another $60 for an SSD to install this OS. A very cable unit with capability to support a decent GPU (up to RTX2070Ti as a decent match). Perfect as a home server, video rendering, or even Hi 1080P gaming. At the "price", a fantastic value!
Have ever you tried setting core affinity or use process lasso to force CPU usage? Might make a difference on these CPUs.
i remember when these were pretty expensive only 2 years ago, glad they're beginning to come down now. Surprised my dual x5670 machine beats/matches this in cinebench though, dual 8 core upgrade perhaps for this? e5 2690's can be had for pretty cheap.
I had the Haswell-E one of these . On the side panel if you use the right drill bit and drilled off the head of the rivots that handle but will come off :)
Hey my man Steve I would really appreciate the shield build of the case but it could be so helpful if you could add minecraft to cpu intensive benchmarks especially for old cpus in which most people would probably find it helpful.
I recently bought a e5-2680 v4 and a e5 2637 v3 from eBay in the US and is currently excited to look for a mini ITX board to use the e5-2637 v3 as a cheap powerful workstation and the e5 2680 v4 as a ESXi machine, wonder if it'll have similar or better performance when compared to the T5600
Nice green grass over there 👍 combined with the shield, look awesome
That is one of the best looking workstations in the Dell lineup, imo.
Woow Dave! That is a nice server machine you got there. Even with it's age included. Try put Proxmox VE on it, a few HDD and SSD and install a Windows VM, install secondary GPU for passthrough and show us a benchmark through there. And comparison with the barebone WinOS install. Wish this would came true. Because it's an ideal machine for that journey for you. Promise.
just got an optiplex with a 1650 v3 - working well with a cheap gfx card. the build quality and how nicely everything fits together is impressive, particularly the modular sections. very very quiet. gonna pair it with something more powerful when i get the chance - im pretty sure the card is the bottleneck right now.
Which card?
These older Xeon systems are awesome. Personally my main machine is a 5,1 flashed Mac Pro with an RX580, 32GB of Ram and dual E5649s. It's even faster than my Razer Blade 15 from 2018!
have a similar system , but by HP , ran kinda slow due to the hdd , but after and ssd swap it runs like clockwork .. been using as a spare pc ..in ur case , can the handle on the side panel be removed ?
Until I got my current rig during lockdown, I'd not built a computer since 2008 due to budget constraints, and it was often systems like this. Not dual CPU of course, but a second hand office Dell with a cheap GPU slapped up its arse.
The first 2 were disasters, ran fine at first, but both times the GPU(both were ATI Radeon HD cards, have used NVidia ever since) massively overheated and warped the motherboard so badly it wouldn't boot any longer. Forced me to use a Pentium 4 in 2012 as I'd run out of budget and it was going for a fiver. It would at least let me have a game of Football Manager as long as I played in 2D, and allowed me to use office programs and web browsers, too.
I gamed with a Dell Precision T1600 for a couple of years with a 1050TI. It doesn’t have a solid power supply so you need a bus powered card but it was solid for a while. It’s now my dedicated ‘retro’ gaming rig - Windows XP, Windows 7 and a modified earlier build of Windows 10 with most of the junk removed (I’m going to put a bus powered 950 in it since that’s the best card XP will support, but I’m using the integrated graphics for now. I needed the money from selling the 1050 to pay rent)
Got a dual 8-Core Xeon coupled with and RTX A2000. Pretty solid as a day to day and CPU intense workloads (given the price) and even for 4K editing. Don't play much games but I have done a couple of benchmarks and noticed the same thing: good average FPS but noticeable dips here and there. Remember, the GPU's PCI-E slot is linked to one CPU only so the other CPU can reach it via NUMA. I can't think of a single video game optimised for such setup.
I wonder how the pc will game with one of the Xeons taken out. If it can run with only 1 I feel like it will perform better as there's less lanes wasted on syncing the 2 CPUs and more bandwidth available. Though not sure how the architecture is but would be cool to see! Also if you went 1440p, would there be less lows and microstutter?
I was making a shield joke in my head as RGHD started grabbing the handle. Man, I rarely laugh while watching tech videos but this one, it did not disappoint.
Sorry I'm late to the party, I was wondering if you turned off Hyperthreading? I seem to remember early 1st gen and Sandy Bridge HT wasn't helping games at all, and it was actually taking away a low percentage of the performance. This was on 4 core hyper thead in 1st gen and SandyBridge.
Awesome content! I would love to see benchmarks with upgraded cpu. Something like a pair of e5 2690's or 2643 v2's as these are as cheap as 10 USD on eBay these days. I'm guessing the higher clocks would help immensely in gaming.
Dumb question I just got a q
W-2145 8 core 3.7ghz xeon workstation for cheap will it bottleneck a 4070/4080. My tv is 4 I'm going to play cyberpunk elden ring and Alan Wake 2.
I'm running a dual Xeon rig with two E5-2696v2 for playing around with virtualization. I'm using Proxmox and pass a GPU through to the VMs for gaming. With 16 cores and a RX570 8GB i got a score of 4148 in TimeSpy. For Reference: In combination with a Ryzen5 3600XT the same GPU scored 4258.
I use an 2699v3 18 core haswell xeon paired with a radeon 6900xt for my linux gaming box.
The xeon is almost always the bottleneck but most games get over 100fps which is my monitors refresh rate anyway.
So i just set everything to ultra and never worry about background tasks.
I can be doing literally anything at the same time, compiling, transcoding, discord, even x264 encoding, and my fps stays exactly the same.
I love xeon life, i wish they had quicksync though
Did you disable the spectre updates with inspectre? They take away a lot of performance from the older chips.
Great vid 👍 thanks...how loud is the machine? And is a power monster? - I've looked at old servers before, but they generally sound like a vacuum cleaner - thanks
It’s a lot quieter after replacing the paste but there’s a front fan (small) behind the dvd drive that is quite loud!
I own the T5800 version. Quite well made and not too shabby performance wise.
Is it running in ddr mode with 1 chip per cpu or would 4 total dimms improve performance greatly in the .1% espically?
I've really been looking for a PC case that doubles as a shield. What a buy.
I loved that shield bit LMFAO had me rolling! 2:18
I bought one of these for a similar price last month but had to return it due to some of the memory slots not working. I bought a Lenovo Thinkstation D30 to replace it that was even cheaper - 70ukp with a pair of E5-2609v2s and 16Gb of RAM. I have replaced the CPUs with a pair of E5-2680 v2s that cost 40ukp for the pair and filled all 16 RAM slots with 8Gb sticks that cost me another 60ukp, so I have a 20 core 128Gb workstation for 170 quid. I'm using it for AI video processing so I fitted a Tesla K20 5Gb that cost me 25 quid and kept the Quadro K2000 it came with, so my total spent so far is around 200 quid and it is happily chugging along processing video. I'll probably add a second Tesla K20 soon as the PSU can handle it and has four 6pin GPU connectors. My main system is a T5810 with a e5-2698v4 in it, and I'm a big fan of this series of Dells, the cases are great.
The thing you forgot to mention about these old dual Xeon rigs is the memory system - you get a whopping 8 channels so bandwidth is massive, ideal for video editing etc. Also, ECC RAM is dirt cheap so you can cheaply fit 64 or 128Gb and never have to worry about running out of memory. 8 channels of 1600Mhz or 1866Mhz DDR3 is surprisingly fast, benchmarks show my D30 with 1600Mhz DDR3 on 8 channels is quite a bit faster than the four channels of 2400Mhz DDR4 in my T5810.
Dual socket 771 here; thrift-store picked for $26. It was in a single CPU config when I found it; an extra $50 and it is pretty much maxed out (both CPUs replaced, dual Quadro 2000's), other than RAM (went from 4GB to 16GB, no need to go any higher).
I have a W3690 Xeon in my X58 system. Still runs fantastic. It's even got nvme drives.
Interesting review. I was wondering what a system like this would do in terms of performance.
Seems like, where both CPUs can be used with no problem, you get better performance than in cases where you can only use one CPU.
But hey, this gives me an idea - one CPU for gaming and the other for streaming/background services?
Plus, of course, they do these workstations with higher end Xeons that go all the way to 14 cores/28 threads, so if you had one of those, you wouldn't need two Xeon's.
Had the same idea. This config would be ideal since you don’t „steal“ any performance because most games only utilize one CPU. The other can be for streaming, home server etc. 32 GB in the whole system is also very good for this.
I've got a similar set up with the same dell but with twin xeon E5-2687W and rtx 2060 super.
Its runs Starfield resonbly well but I'm getting to the stage now where I'm wondering whether to upgrade or if the reason problems I has with cities skylines 2 and forza motorsport are just due to the poorly optermised releases
@RandomGaminginHD i run dual intel xeons x5675's with 28gb of ddr3 ram, a 1tb ssd for windows 7 pro 64bit, and a 4tb internal storage drive for my personal files and games. i dont really use steam that much anymore, dont have a lot of time for gaming like i use to, now that im working 4 days a week. but anyways its a powerfull beat i love it. was planning on upgrading to dual x5690's at 3.46ghz vers 3.09ghz. i use my pc for virtual machines and modding windows, and playing games of coarse video editing photo shop, and some 3d modeling. and to be quite frank with you its still a power house even in 2024 cosnidering its almost 20 years old now considering it was relased in 2010/2009.
I run the same rig in an HP workstation purchased for $600. I changed the E5-2630 v2 X2 to E5-2667 v2 X2 @3.3 GHz and increased cpubenchmark score from 12,582 to 21,158 for $150. Cinebench r20 score now 5091, r23 score now 12545.
I actually got one of these recently from a friend for around $60 and it turned out to have 2 Xeon at 8 cores 16 threads for total of 32 threads with 64gb of ram. I upped it to a 128GB kit and dropped in a gtx 980 and it's fun for just messing around and does a great job running a Minecraft server although being overkill.
You said that before you changed the thermal paste the CPU's were running close to 100°C. What was the temperature after changing the thermal paste? The second question is that "Is it worth going for dual CPU's for gaming" or "Is one of the CPU's hardly used"? I ask because I am really into Xenon CPU's.
Lucky find! Here where I live this workstation sells for no less than $1.999.
I'm still on my old x58 system. Upgraded i7-930 to Xeon 5675, planning on upgrading once I have enough money.
I run the same rig in an HP workstation. I changed the E5-2630 v2 X2 to E5-2667 v2 X2 @3.3 GHz and increased cpubenchmark score from 12,582 to 21,158 for $150
I wouldn't know how a dual Xeon rig handles gaming but my system is an E3-1225 V3 and 16 GB of DDR3 running Winders 10, it's fully capable for gaming and also large processing such as video editing but sort of lags behind in overall gaming aspect compared to an i-Core of similar year and specification. I've also used an E3-1245 V2 for a few years and found the way that server-based CPUs process games was simply different from other chipsets. But it's something very subtle, my GT 1030 inside contributes more to irregular performance than the 1225 does.