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  • @PilouBen
    @PilouBen Pƙed 29 dny +228

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  • @jimmymcgill6778
    @jimmymcgill6778 Pƙed rokem +92

    She have never said the 20 year old is irresponsible. He's making crap up at this point.
    Just making a lot of assumptions.

    • @joelfenner9179
      @joelfenner9179 Pƙed rokem +1

      4 comments and counting . . . will he make 5? Stay tuned!

    • @bkucenski
      @bkucenski Pƙed rokem +14

      Dave is just letting his greed shine through. He never asked her and her husband what they were going to do with the money. He just heard the age and decided he can't handle money to justify robbing him of his inheritance.

    • @jimmymcgill6778
      @jimmymcgill6778 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@joelfenner9179 Sometimes my comments have some type of error with I hit comment. So I go and re-word it. Without knowing that it went through.

    • @jimroscovius
      @jimroscovius Pƙed rokem +2

      He's totally irresponsible!! You are trolling, as usual. The little baby hubby needs to get his controlling mommy to change it. You don't give $450,000 to an irresponsible 20-year-old.
      I don't even think you listen to the calls with all of the stupid comments you make.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 Pƙed rokem

      The 20 year old is an American, which proves them to be irresponsible.

  • @FrankS111
    @FrankS111 Pƙed rokem +63

    Her husband ALLOWED it? He has no say in his mothers will!

    • @username9999
      @username9999 Pƙed rokem +3

      It was up to him to sign onto the loan though. The smart thing would have been to only sign the loan if you were 100% getting the house without conditions.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@username9999 Or sign in return for a lien for the amount he contributed.

  • @pi8582
    @pi8582 Pƙed rokem +51

    Did everyone miss his eldest son, it's not her son. Her husband son. They have a new child, new marriage!😼

    • @rossmcgreg6r642
      @rossmcgreg6r642 Pƙed rokem +5

      Stepmother.

    • @boomnailedit1609
      @boomnailedit1609 Pƙed rokem +4

      Grandma might see something we don’t and wanted to make sure eldest isn’t hung out to dry. Buuuuut she could be bat crap crazy and stupid. 😂

    • @jomontanee
      @jomontanee Pƙed rokem +3

      2 new kids.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +3

      No, but Dave did. He thinks it’s all one big happy family.

    • @CammieKN
      @CammieKN Pƙed rokem

      It also somewhat sounds like she’s a stay at home mom who is money grubber

  • @nesquik1001
    @nesquik1001 Pƙed rokem +166

    Sounds like the grandma was protecting her grandson from his stepmom.

    • @johndone8045
      @johndone8045 Pƙed rokem +25

      EXactly, dave is dead wrong on this crap

    • @leevicker8274
      @leevicker8274 Pƙed rokem +28

      Exactly, she's pissed the stepson is getting money that she wants. Notice how she was quick to mention her other two little kids - she wants her kids to get it. In addition she stated her husband has a history of irresponsibility, so who is she suggesting would be responsible for the trust.? Also, it's only the stepmother saying he's irresponsible not anyone else. Sorry, but she has no say in this and needs to back out.

    • @jomontanee
      @jomontanee Pƙed rokem +2

      FACT!

    • @fitleighhill
      @fitleighhill Pƙed rokem +3

      Exactly

    • @charlesg7926
      @charlesg7926 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@leevicker8274 I mean, I think that the cost of the repairs they put into the house should obviously be deducted from the 50% of the profits that goes to the husband’s bio son. Aside from that, yeah, they should pay it

  • @David-wo9un
    @David-wo9un Pƙed rokem +22

    She’s not dead; presumably, he won’t still be 20 when she ultimately dies.

    • @glitterstarbeau
      @glitterstarbeau Pƙed rokem

      True, but you gotta draft estate documents as if you'll die tomorrow

  • @rachelharrison7961
    @rachelharrison7961 Pƙed rokem +76

    I think if the husband follows Dave’s advice and demands that Grandma “fix” her mistake, she’s going to fix it by leaving 100% to the grandson and 0% to the caller’s hubby.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +9

      Good idea.

    • @justinlawson3493
      @justinlawson3493 Pƙed rokem +9

      We can only hope grandma cuts the wicked stepmother completely out of the deal

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Pƙed rokem

      @@justinlawson3493 The problem is no 20 year old is responsible enough to handle that money. They need to keep it as far as possible from the 20 year old because he will go out and buy expensive cars and waste all of it.

    • @nesquik1001
      @nesquik1001 Pƙed rokem +5

      @@costco_pizza it doesn't take away the fact that he's an adult. Also he probably won't be 20 by the time grandma passes away.

    • @justinlawson3493
      @justinlawson3493 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@costco_pizza that’s quite a blanket statement
.judging by the calls Dave receives on the show, there are people of all ages inept at managing money
Even if it were true that “all” 20 year olds would blow through 400k, the particular one in the case would likely be much older than 20 by the time he receives the money with the way granny has it wrote up in the will.. At the end of the day it’s granny’s money and she should be able to do what she wishes, no one is entitled to that money, especially not the gold digging step mom

  • @seanriordan6726
    @seanriordan6726 Pƙed rokem +26

    I think the grandma is looking out for the grandson. Maybe she thinks he will be forgotten, as her son has two other kids with this lady. Dave needs to listen rather than going on rants. Doesn’t help that Deloney just sucks up rather than calling it out.

  • @RaleighLink
    @RaleighLink Pƙed rokem +60

    The grandma is protecting her grandson. Clearly the stepmom thinks more of her biological kids than him. It’s not their house, the grandma can do what she wants, they are just greedy and want all the profits.

  • @Sable1837
    @Sable1837 Pƙed rokem +18

    This woman is a greedy snake. Listen very carefully to her choice words. I hope the grandmother hears this call and cashes out these two for the 100k and signs everything over to her grandson.

  • @elenadichirico7912
    @elenadichirico7912 Pƙed rokem +48

    Sad to say, Dave jumped to assumptions without much listening. Terrible advice! Way to go grandma! If she made her decision that way, she knows something this caller didn’t say. Grandma had every right to do it! And that woman complains getting 1.3 M house after spending 100k? Grandma, stay strong, your in-law is evil!

    • @Rob-fn1kp
      @Rob-fn1kp Pƙed rokem +2

      He always does. This is Dave Ramsay

    • @edd06001
      @edd06001 Pƙed rokem +1

      Are you serious? So the son assumes all the risk, has to put in his own money to upkeep the house, but the reward is only half the profit if they sell? I'm sorry Dave may some absurd things, but he is dead right on this one. That is a grandmother who is trying to not play favorites but is screwing over the son in the process for being responsible. Im sure this in-law didn't pull stuff out of thin air, she sounds like she understands the situation quite well, and that situation is horrible for them.

    • @Rob-fn1kp
      @Rob-fn1kp Pƙed rokem +1

      classic dave

    • @peterespinoza4367
      @peterespinoza4367 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@edd06001 There's very little risk for the husband and wife. They are putting down $100k to own 50% of a ~$1.2M house. If they sell the house (assuming it's all paid for), they would get half of the profit which is $600k, hence a net profit of $500k. That's a win-win no matter how you see it. The grandma probably worked years for this house, it's her decision who and or how she wants to leave it to. And this only happens if they sell the house.

    • @blackspiderman1887
      @blackspiderman1887 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@edd06001half is still 500k. That's still way more than he put in

  • @Kbearthmover
    @Kbearthmover Pƙed rokem +20

    I don't think i have ever disagreed with Dave until now. He doesn't know the boy and sounds like step mom wants the money

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Pƙed rokem +4

      You are correct and what is quite interesting is that I have read about 3/4 of the comments so far and every single one of them are saying the same thing, with one exception I found. Dave utterly failed on this call.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Pƙed rokem

      Guys, no 20 year old should be anywhere near this money. This brat kid will just blow it all on drugs and expensive cars. Keep it as far away from this punk as possible.

  • @kirapoodle
    @kirapoodle Pƙed rokem +88

    The grandmother is actually protecting her grandson. Look how this woman focused on her two babies but doesn't want anything to do with her stepson. Looks like the grandmother is actually very wise and was proactive in her decision.

    • @simplybirdie6481
      @simplybirdie6481 Pƙed rokem +11

      I thought about this too. Also, where in the call did the lady call the 20 year old irresponsible? I guess i missed it!
      Just because they’re 20 doesn’t make they automatically irresponsible either.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Pƙed rokem

      @@simplybirdie6481 No 20 year old is responsible enough to handle that money. They need to keep it as far as possible from the 20 year old because he will go out and buy expensive cars and waste all of it.

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@costco_pizzamost yes, but “no”? You’re wrong. I know a 19 year old who I’m pretty sure would handle this amount of money responsibly.

    • @simplybirdie6481
      @simplybirdie6481 Pƙed rokem

      @@costco_pizza too broad of a generalization, friend. And the caller in the show didn’t even mention the 20 year old was irresponsible , this was just assumed

    • @jaysleeper264
      @jaysleeper264 Pƙed rokem

      There was so much projecting on this call it was brutal to listen too. Almost nothing was said or implied, the hosts just took it and ran. I hope grandma is strong enough to stand her ground

  • @azteca6695
    @azteca6695 Pƙed rokem +16

    Sounds like the mom knows. What kind if stepmom, her daughter in law is.

  • @hitherefriends3943
    @hitherefriends3943 Pƙed rokem +73

    Dave did terribly on this one. He didn’t even get proper information from the caller before going off on a rant. When John tried to ask relevant questions he doesn’t even let the caller answer. He makes assumptions that the son is irresponsible with zero information to support that assumption. If this is a step mom, maybe the grandma doesn’t expect the elder son to receive help from his father and wants to look out for him.

    • @barnabusdoyle4930
      @barnabusdoyle4930 Pƙed rokem +13

      I agree, the first thing that should have been asked is, why did the mom add this clause in. What was she afraid of

    • @carlaritchie331
      @carlaritchie331 Pƙed rokem +7

      Agree completely.

    • @LuisLopez-nk7fj
      @LuisLopez-nk7fj Pƙed rokem +1

      bible says its a sin to b powerfull and ack like god that wont allow other people to speak .he loves to show power this way arrogance and blind by power .. isnt that evilll.?

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@LuisLopez-nk7fj just pride

    • @nervotica7991
      @nervotica7991 Pƙed rokem

      Nope, Dave saw the end of this from a mike away.

  • @warrensloan3467
    @warrensloan3467 Pƙed rokem +17

    I hope the 20 year old finds out about this, that should make Thanksgiving fun going forward.

    • @jaysleeper264
      @jaysleeper264 Pƙed rokem +1

      I'll project and assume the same way Dave and John did here. No more or less and say 20yo already isn't allowed at step-mom's Tgiving which is why grandma felt the need to protect 20yo.

  • @carlaritchie331
    @carlaritchie331 Pƙed rokem +17

    Wow, so many interruptions from Dave jumping to conclusions that I could not fully understand the caller's explanation.

  • @wjf5839
    @wjf5839 Pƙed rokem +28

    Sounds like the caller is mad the stepson is getting the money rather than her kids.

  • @michaelvan6675
    @michaelvan6675 Pƙed rokem +11

    Who said the 20 year old is irresponsible?

  • @diggernash1
    @diggernash1 Pƙed rokem +13

    This woman is a second, I'm guessing. Granny should pay them the 100k and put it ALL in a trust for the 20 year old.

  • @bkidd2914
    @bkidd2914 Pƙed rokem +22

    Do we know if the 20 year old is irresponsible?

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 Pƙed rokem

      Yes we do, they're American. That says they're irrresponsible.

    • @geoffreymoseley6801
      @geoffreymoseley6801 Pƙed rokem

      His mother said he was irresponsible

    • @newp848
      @newp848 Pƙed rokem +6

      ​@@geoffreymoseley6801the caller is his stepmother and she never said that, Dave is just screaming it

    • @jacobhinsey
      @jacobhinsey Pƙed rokem

      We do not. Dave was too busy talking over everyone

    • @bkidd2914
      @bkidd2914 Pƙed rokem

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508 you are grumpy

  • @jennyberger6688
    @jennyberger6688 Pƙed rokem +55

    Her husband needs to run she just wants the money. The eldest son absolutely deserves that money. Not HER NEW KIDS!!!!

  • @Kbearthmover
    @Kbearthmover Pƙed rokem +7

    It is her money let her do what she wants with it.

  • @ayamepl
    @ayamepl Pƙed rokem +5

    I need an update on this one, please. I am invested!đŸ€“

  • @genxx2724
    @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +51

    Dave always misses the point on these second marriage situations.

    • @jomontanee
      @jomontanee Pƙed rokem +12

      Because he is one woman man. This is too complicated for him.😂

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@jomontanee I’m imagining smoke, charred wires, and springs sproinging out of his head.

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Pƙed rokem +6

      Yep. She has new bio kids with hubby and couldn’t give a damn about his previous one. It’s biological in nature-but must be recognized.

    • @Rob-fn1kp
      @Rob-fn1kp Pƙed rokem +1

      Yep!!! And always sides with a woman

  • @patty109109
    @patty109109 Pƙed rokem +18

    Translation: new wife doesn’t give a damn about hubby’s first born, grandmother sees it, and has protected her grandson from her weak son being manipulated by the new wife.

  • @Dreamingbigbudgets
    @Dreamingbigbudgets Pƙed rokem +11

    Sounds like a bitter new wife

  • @angelmyers869
    @angelmyers869 Pƙed rokem +33

    Dave calling the grandma dumb is out of line. I'm sure there was a reason she did that, especially if she's in her right state of mind. If he would actually listen longer and not cut people off, he may get a better picture of what is going on.

  • @jimmymcgill6778
    @jimmymcgill6778 Pƙed rokem +63

    It is his mother's house. Not his, or hers. She can do what she want.
    If they sell, they can throw the other half to the other kids.
    Making a big deal out of nothing.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Pƙed rokem +6

      She can do what she wants, but she also made an agreement with them when they took out the new loan and then she went and violated the terms of that agreement with this new clause.

    • @jimmymcgill6778
      @jimmymcgill6778 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@adamseidel9780 And what was that original agreement?

    • @SneakerGame-tp8gv
      @SneakerGame-tp8gv Pƙed rokem +6

      I agree. The other half minus any expenses. Maybe even a bonus bigger portion, but her son doesn't deserve to have his future wealth stolen. They are basically booting him out of the will and that is unethical in my opinion.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Pƙed rokem

      @@jimmymcgill6778 she literally said it on the call, that the couple would do all this loan co-signing and they’d get the house when she dies.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@SneakerGame-tp8gv that was the agreement grandma made. Presumably she has other assets she can include him in, plus generally speaking wealth doesn’t slip a generation like that, the older son will be entitled to his piece once his father passes.

  • @neisci
    @neisci Pƙed rokem +11

    For grandma to feel she needs to make sure her grandson would be taken care of says a lot about the father and stepmother. If she knew for sure grandson would be safe,( as Delony likes to put it) grandma wouldn't feel the need to do it. I agree with the trust idea.

  • @bryannorris3976
    @bryannorris3976 Pƙed rokem +4

    I hope granny gets pissed and leave’s everything to the 20 year old. Step mom is very greedy

  • @grantnovak7009
    @grantnovak7009 Pƙed rokem +46

    I love Dave. His advice and Biblical wisdom helped me to become debt free and changed my life. I've even visited Ramsey headquarters and was blessed to meet and take a photo with him!....But this was a big time miss. If he'd listened more instead of jumping to conclusions prematurely, he would have been able to see the dynamic at play here. She made it clear the 20 year old was "his son", and wants his share of what his grandma wants for him...for herself and her bio children. Also, the man is 20 NOW. He won't be 20 whenever they sell the house. It appears Dr. John wanted to seek out the truth further but kept getting shut down by Dave. I seriously love Dave, but he's got to humble himself and be a better listener.

    • @mathematician1234
      @mathematician1234 Pƙed rokem +9

      Good observations. Particularly the "he won't be 20 when they sell the house" comment. Mr. Ramsey has been a little less patient lately. I wonder whether it is the legal issues he is going through (in the news headlines) placing extra stress on him. He was more patient before that; I expect he will be more patient again when this law suit is buried.

  • @palmenhain22
    @palmenhain22 Pƙed rokem +4

    Dude, she was upset as it clearly was not her child....

  • @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries
    @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries Pƙed rokem +31

    If house is currently worth $1.2 million and they've only put $100,000 in, and there's a $400,000 mortgage, I'd keep my mouth shut lol. Don't strong arm granny, just tell her she changed the rules after they helped out so now she needs to change it back. She's the stepmom wanting her 2 kids to have a cut and grandma has made pretty clear what she wants. If I was her I'd just shut it in front of grandma. It's grandma who built that equity. It sounds like she's newer on the scene so granny probably saw her coming lol.

    • @SneakerGame-tp8gv
      @SneakerGame-tp8gv Pƙed rokem +8

      On point and Dave Ramsey is wrong here.

    • @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries
      @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries Pƙed rokem +1

      @SneakerGame-tp8gv terribly wrong. How many benefits has DR given his kids growing up, college, homes, employment? Please.

    • @SneakerGame-tp8gv
      @SneakerGame-tp8gv Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries I am agreeing with you, so if I'm wrong you are wrong too I guess, lol
      Dave Ramsey was born wealthy, to two parents who were wealthy Real estate developers. I'm sure his children had a heavy leg up in terms of their education and opportunities, and when you come from a family that is worth hundreds of millions typically, I don't know from experience, but you are treated like royalty. How many positions did his children get from even having the last name Ramsey? I'm sure these children had far more opportunities than you or I did, just for the access alone.

    • @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries
      @Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries Pƙed rokem

      @@SneakerGame-tp8gv đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚ totally agree!

  • @Youdontneedtoknowmyname3-iu1vk

    Her house her rules don't push her or else she will take you guys out of that will 😂

  • @robloxvids2233
    @robloxvids2233 Pƙed rokem +31

    Don't get involved with family or friends regarding money. Never ends up good.

    • @GhostruckerX
      @GhostruckerX Pƙed rokem

      How would you know? Is that a meme you got from Google crap?

    • @robloxvids2233
      @robloxvids2233 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@GhostruckerX Google Crap? Is that a new app for sound financial decisions?

    • @joelkaben
      @joelkaben Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@GhostruckerXwtf are you talking about? That is sound advice, you don't do it because they (family/friends) usually don't pay you back. If you give, gift it. Do not loan it.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Pƙed rokem

      @@robloxvids2233 The problem is no 20 year old should be anywhere near this money. This punk brat kid will just blow it all on drugs and expensive cars. Keep it as far away from him as possible.

    • @GhostruckerX
      @GhostruckerX Pƙed rokem

      @@joelkaben How would you know either? You haven't been in those shoes either just be quiet. Instead of coming sideways with all these types of sceptical systems on me.

  • @ominous450
    @ominous450 Pƙed rokem +16

    The stepmom doesnt like that her children weren't included

  • @jmorris023
    @jmorris023 Pƙed rokem +8

    I love how to Ramsey, every person is a defined by one trait.

  • @philipgerry5228
    @philipgerry5228 Pƙed rokem +3

    This sounds like the caller is biased. She married into the family and wants to funnel more money towards herself

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski Pƙed rokem +24

    It's not their house. The mom owns it. And Dave needs to stop trying to use money to control people. "Don't give money to the poor, they're irresponsible." "Don't give money to this young adult, he's irresponsible."
    No. If you're concerned about how he will use the money the sit down and talk to him so he can have a plan. Lay out what his debts are so he knows they're going to be paid off. Figure out where he would like to live because he's going to buy a house and be mortgage free.
    You're not entitled to money that isn't yours to begin with because you think you're more responsible. It's not a contest. He's a grandchild, he gets a share of the inheritance whether you like it or not.

    • @375Cheytac
      @375Cheytac Pƙed rokem +3

      Facts. I knew what compound interest was when I was 16 and would have been more financially responsible than I am now. Dave just believes everyone he talks to on his show is stupid - and perhaps they are if they can’t make the best decisions with simple facts.
      Unfortunately you have to think about the real impact Dave is having on these people’s lives: this kid might get screwed and end up hating his family for this decision. $400k at 20 would have CHANGED my life. Instead I now have to work the first 10 years 2x as hard - years that I’ll never get back - for the same end result. Throw in compound interest and that time frame doubles. Unfortunate for this family that this woman couldn’t respect someone else’s money and instead wants to drive a wedge into this man’s family after they’ve already done so much for her.

    • @johndone8045
      @johndone8045 Pƙed rokem

      Dave has the worst fucked up family opinion on the internet

    • @joesmith3590
      @joesmith3590 Pƙed rokem

      Terrible advice and the reason the usa and world is doing so poorly. You making a plan for them doesn’t make them follow it. You just described why most under 40 still rely on parents lol

  • @janetchang1527
    @janetchang1527 Pƙed rokem +4

    Did they just assume that the son is irresponsible ? I know she mum mentioned the husband used to be irresponsible with money
but nowhere did I hear that the son is actually irresponsible with money
so nothing wrong with leaving money to him if that’s what grandma wants

  • @screwdriver_bandit
    @screwdriver_bandit Pƙed rokem +5

    Someone call Sharon. Dave clearly needed a hug today.

  • @Faluthe
    @Faluthe Pƙed rokem +16

    The husband's mum is protecting her grandson. She knows something that the son (husband) does not about the son's wife (the caller).

  • @iomis2001
    @iomis2001 Pƙed rokem +11

    You can try and sue the trust. He is over 18 and the money can be left to whomever she wants it left too. You can't sue the trust.
    Also not every 20 year old is an idiot and not ever 40 year old is responsible. Dave is way out of line on this.

  • @mercuryrising2424
    @mercuryrising2424 Pƙed rokem +26

    I am so glad the comments on this video agree with the grandmother. The only thing Dave is right about is that the grandmother should put the money in a trust for her grandson to make sure that it lasts. But you don't go to your mother and demand that she change the contract because you don't want your son getting the money. Come on Dave!

    • @stevenporter863
      @stevenporter863 Pƙed rokem +2

      Exactly. It is the grandmother's money when all is said and done, and she is of sound mind so she can burn it all at her funeral if she wants. Someone can't change a will just because it isn't the way they would do it. How come Dave thinks he can stipulate every little detail about which of his kids get his money and conditions how they live their lives but the grandmother can't?

  • @tnotc
    @tnotc Pƙed rokem +45

    Grandma is looking out for the grandson the new wife isn't concerned with. Bad bad bad Dave.

    • @jimmymcgill6778
      @jimmymcgill6778 Pƙed rokem +4

      yep

    • @johndone8045
      @johndone8045 Pƙed rokem +1

      Always trash advise from the ramseys on family

    • @sustainabilitytheory5154
      @sustainabilitytheory5154 Pƙed rokem +2

      Good point. The caller did call the 20yo "his first kid" dismissing any responsibility for the kid. But a trust with triggering mechanisms is still a good idea in most situations involving a lot of money and people under 27yo

  • @shondah8659
    @shondah8659 Pƙed rokem +45

    This advice is insane!!! The wife should not be making decisions about her 20 year old stepson! The wife said the husband was irresponsible, not her stepson. She wants the money to go to her two children!!! They will all still make a profit! Furthermore, the child will not be 20, when the house is sold!

    • @newp848
      @newp848 Pƙed rokem +7

      Dave Ramsey is a straight up crazed villain.

    • @kirapoodle
      @kirapoodle Pƙed rokem +2

      Exactly this

    • @unelectedleader6494
      @unelectedleader6494 Pƙed rokem +4

      Also, it’s just the pot calling the kettle black, because David ‘s kids had their school paid for and then were gifted “jobs” by Dave anyway to boot. And Dave benefited from his parents being in real estate, his whole life, admittedly. If Dave and his kids didn’t need to start from scratch then there’s no reason this guy needs to. Can’t have it both ways.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Pƙed rokem

      No 20 year old should be anywhere near this money. This brat kid will just blow it all on drugs and expensive cars. Keep it as far away from him as possible.

  • @JaneDough23
    @JaneDough23 Pƙed rokem +4

    After my dad died my mama got the 40 acres of land. She went and fixed a will around 5 years after his death for the land to be divided between me and my sister. About 2 years later sister and her children talked my mama into changing the will to her son who was 24 years old at that time. He was 31 upon her death and got all of the land.

  • @blackspiderman1887
    @blackspiderman1887 Pƙed rokem +2

    I side with the grandma. She paid for most of the home. Not her son. Her name is on the title. She can do what she wants with it. If she wants to make sure her biological grandson has a place to live, then good for her. The wife thinks just because her husband put 1/10 what the home of worth he's entitled to keep all the money if it's sold? No. He was dumb for being a guarantor, and she is dumb for thinking they are entitled to the home

  • @SneakerGame-tp8gv
    @SneakerGame-tp8gv Pƙed rokem +19

    That is a good grandma and she can do what she wants. I do agree a trust may be a good solution but she wanted to give her grandson a gift and i think that is awesome.

  • @triad6425
    @triad6425 Pƙed rokem +3

    I have been more responsible than my dad since I was 17yo. Giving a kid money is not inherently wrong if they are wise too.

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 Pƙed rokem +3

    I was wondering why grandma is singling out one child for inheritance share.
    Is that the only bio-child of hubby and thus BIO-RELATED TO GRANDMA? Are the other kids the hubby's step-kids?
    That would spin this ENTIRELY DIFFERENTLY, with Step-mom not liking that Grandma isn't gifting HER ids with part of a large inheritance.
    Inadequate info was gained to make a proper evaluation of the situation.
    A step-mom saying step-kid is irresponsible and shouldnt get the inheritance granny wants to give him... would just be Step-karen being self-entitled.
    Caller admitted that grandma is still of sound mind. That means grandma can make her choices about her will and really it was a mistake to tell anyone what's in the will.

  • @joeriveracomedy
    @joeriveracomedy Pƙed rokem +2

    Grandma owns the house/loan. SHE can do whatever she pleases. I let my mom make all the calls on her home. I just help because I can/want to and want NOTHING in return.

  • @susan5661
    @susan5661 Pƙed rokem +2

    I would have liked to hear more from John with this caller. He has such insight to contribute rather than just color commentary

  • @stevenporter863
    @stevenporter863 Pƙed rokem +5

    4:27
    While Dave may be morally correct a court of law won't nullify a will by a sound minded individual just because you don't like it. How come Dave can stipluate every little detail about which of his kids get his money and how they live their lives but the grandmother can't?

  • @thegenxgamerr
    @thegenxgamerr Pƙed rokem +23

    Notice, they shifted right onto the husband? And then start belittling him as a man. When in reality, the woman, his mother, the grandmother is the one that did this. All the young men out there pay close attention, never call the Ramsey net work for help they don’t have your best interest at heart they will always blame you.

    • @fauxbro1983
      @fauxbro1983 Pƙed rokem +5

      Lol yep. She doesn't want step son to get a piece.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Pƙed rokem +1

      They are right in this case, though, it’s his mother, he needs to handle it

    • @FlutterSwag
      @FlutterSwag Pƙed rokem +2

      Exactly, more n more guys are done dealing with this crap

    • @djpuplex
      @djpuplex Pƙed rokem

      Majority of mature men if they can avoid the gambling, booze, drugs and gold digger rout can avoid being saddled with debt so Ramsey's core audience are women and men who are in relationship with women where the women is gonna control the money anyway. Majority of single men don't need Ramsey's đŸ‚đŸ’©. He's not gonna bite the hand that feed him.

    • @GhostruckerX
      @GhostruckerX Pƙed rokem +3

      White knighting Dave

  • @jasonrodgers9063
    @jasonrodgers9063 Pƙed rokem +4

    A "20 year-old irresponsible person with $400,000" is a future 21 year old person with zero money.

  • @ChrisCash720
    @ChrisCash720 Pƙed rokem +3

    You guys act like grandparents never hate their kids because they are assholes but love the grandkids. This is grandma protecting the baby because she sees them as incompetent

  • @ManuelLopez-ev7ud
    @ManuelLopez-ev7ud Pƙed rokem +13

    The husband needs to dump this woman. She just wants the money and leaves the 20-year-old without any financial emergency fund.

    • @PCKA1987
      @PCKA1987 Pƙed rokem

      Because dumping the mother of his two children in such a fantastic solution. No.

  • @djpuplex
    @djpuplex Pƙed rokem +8

    Majority of wealth in divorce and inheritance is passed to women. Women work off of social currency. Men work off what they build.
    Love how these two trash the husband as always. Never hold women accountable always help them always trash the man.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 Pƙed rokem

      Majority of wealth in divorce is passed to the COURT. Lawyers and judges keep everything.

    • @djpuplex
      @djpuplex Pƙed rokem

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508 97% of all spousal support ever paid was from men to women. What's left anyway.

  • @TheRealMacAndCheese
    @TheRealMacAndCheese Pƙed rokem +2

    Do we know anything about the 20 year old? He might actually be the actual best option here.

  • @jaysleeper264
    @jaysleeper264 Pƙed rokem +2

    Started listening in 09 in college and this was the most disgusting call response I've heard. As everyone pointed out they ignored the elephant, that grandma is likely protecting kid 1 from step mom, and proceeded to destroy the lady as controlling based on their projections of past calls. They destroy the kid as irresponsible based on nothing other than being 20 and projections of past calls and he gets compared to an addict. No evidence was given for these. I'm not gonna argue that a 20yo is ready for 400k, but it's a trust, put age requirements on it.
    Now I'll project. If the kid is irresponsible maybe it's bc controlling step mom came in and didn't allow kid 1 to receive proper parenting since, as the duo projected dad is a push over and a "coward" he never stood up to step mom and grandma saw this. I hope grandma is able to stand her ground and ensure kid1 is protected from new marriage and kid2-3.

    • @jaysleeper264
      @jaysleeper264 Pƙed rokem

      I feel like John maybe wanted to go there (grandma's lack of trust for step mom) for a sec but once Dave was already rolling on the narrative, John just followed suit like always. Rachel may have been the only one to explore that option to counter Dave.

  • @blackspiderman1887
    @blackspiderman1887 Pƙed rokem +1

    Fine! Don't sign and the grandson gets 100% of the house

  • @psychologypig4515
    @psychologypig4515 Pƙed rokem +6

    Dave is wrong. Let the 20 year old have 400k. I

  • @John3.36
    @John3.36 Pƙed rokem +2

    After this call they got a bunch of courage and went to confront the mom:
    Son: Mom you need to change this right now!
    Mom: Okay
    Son: *looks at new contract* , 20 year old gets 100%
    Mom: dies
    Son: Oh #$@!

  • @genxx2724
    @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +3

    Most wills and trusts have a non-contest clause. That means if a beneficiary contests it, they lose their gift. And strong-arming ill Grandma to sign new documents? That’s elder abuse. Son and the crooked attorney and notary he uses can all go to jail and lose their licenses. Sad trombone.

  • @cutehumor
    @cutehumor Pƙed rokem +3

    if i die, my two kids get 1/3 each and wife gets 1/3 of the house. I'm 45. house will be paid off in 7 years and worth almost 1 million. my kids are 8 and 11. wife said boldly she will remarry if i die unexpectedly. i will not allow some clown take what i worked hard for and keep for himself. 😅

    • @carlaritchie331
      @carlaritchie331 Pƙed rokem

      It sounds wise that you are dividing equally to secure your children's financial future with some stability, regardless of what your widow chooses as her future. However, will their money be put in a trust for them to inherit at certain milestones so it's not all given to them in a lump sum while they are still minors? As mentioned in this video, that seems like a more responsible way to pass down wealth.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 Pƙed rokem +1

      Wow. That means the house will have to be sold. Your wife may live to regret opening her mouth when she has to live in a condo or rent. But good for you, making sure your kids inherit what you intend them to have.

  • @ScizzyGibbler
    @ScizzyGibbler Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    As someone who also get's more things with loud mufflers, I approve this message.

  • @juicysmith38235
    @juicysmith38235 Pƙed rokem +2

    I'm trying to be openeded minded with the comments saying shes only worried about her kids, however if the husband has a 20 yr old it makes you wonder if she is younger. If he is older and will statistically die sooner, i could understand worrying what would happen tonher and their children. By then the 20 yr old could be 30s or early 40s and have a more established life versus his dad's children that would still need help with college, etc??

  • @TeKnoVKNG23
    @TeKnoVKNG23 Pƙed rokem +2

    Lots of assumptions here by Clown Ramsey. Sounds like Grandma is just trying to protect the kid from his greedy stepmom. Stepmom wants all the money just for her kids, it's pretty obvious what is going on here.

  • @PCKA1987
    @PCKA1987 Pƙed rokem +3

    I think there’s more to this story than this caller is presenting. Too many harsh assumptions.

  • @HelloWorld-hb7yt
    @HelloWorld-hb7yt Pƙed rokem +1

    grandma needs to sell the house and spend it and split it leftover to 2 sons evenly, sounds like mom still got many years of life.. His older son doesn't deserve 100% just because he is good with money.

  • @xerxys
    @xerxys Pƙed rokem +1

    Who the hell would waste a fortune on a charity who isn't truly making a difference. Children are entitled to the money by law. I wouldn't sign anything away especially to a non blood related member of the family, who do they think they are?

  • @AM-qz4cr
    @AM-qz4cr Pƙed rokem +2

    Wouldn’t he only get the money once they sell? It didn’t sound like they were planning on selling after her passing

  • @lionelhuts875
    @lionelhuts875 Pƙed rokem +1

    2:16 Reference to the quality of this "advice". This could be ruining the grandson's life. They need to issue a retraction and apology immediately.

  • @JacksonvilleTammy
    @JacksonvilleTammy Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    As a former Bank Teller I could tell you some stories...seen it dozens of times young people closing their checking accounts after going thru the money that family left them. Seen adults also losing homes after winning lots of money or getting an inheritance. Dave speaks the truth on this one.

  • @lionelhuts875
    @lionelhuts875 Pƙed rokem +5

    By far the worst advice ever given on this show. They're robbing the grandson of his inheritance and insulting the grandmother for her generosity.

  • @seraph4
    @seraph4 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    When the house sells, caller and husband get $100K back and the remaining profits get split according to however the grandma wants according to her will. Caller and husband have no right to grandma's money and assets unless grandma legally gives it to them.

  • @lslfaye2001
    @lslfaye2001 Pƙed rokem +1

    What shes really mad about is that the oldest grandchilds mother will probably benefit from the childs inheritance 😊 a whole lot more is going on here and I want to know what it is!

  • @zachbills8112
    @zachbills8112 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Evil stepmother trying to cheat her stepson out of his inheritance.

  • @Dividendflywheel
    @Dividendflywheel Pƙed rokem +1

    Grandma should have consulted a couple of estate planning attorney’s to develop a plan. Inheritance is always messy. It brings out covetousness, greed and negative character traits.
    Let’s imagine alternative scenarios.
    Scenario 1: If grandma took out a reverse mortgage, HELOC or mortgage for 50% of the value of the house (she gets $600,000 cash). Is she allowed to do with the cash what she wants? Can she give that cash to her grandson, or put it in a Trust? Then gift the house to her son. He would essentially be getting a $600,000 gift. He can take out a loan to payoff grandma’s mortgage. Or sell the house.
    Second scenario. Grandma puts the house in a trust. Make the beneficiaries of the trust 60:40 (60% to her son and 40% to the grandson). Upon her death the house is sold and the proceeds go into the trust.
    I am definitely not an attorney. Would like to know how a lawyer would structure the transfer

  • @greggpurviance7252
    @greggpurviance7252 Pƙed rokem +2

    Trusts would work with irresponsible grandson

  • @thesig301
    @thesig301 Pƙed rokem +2

    Idk I don’t think Dave’s right on this one. However yes the money should be spread out over time to the kid.

  • @Sweet_Southern_Pecan
    @Sweet_Southern_Pecan Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

    She's protecting the grandson. This response feels off.

  • @michelejohnson6459
    @michelejohnson6459 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    It's her house she can do whatever she wants!! 🙄

  • @luisl691
    @luisl691 Pƙed rokem +1

    The grandmother is smart

  • @angelwings1
    @angelwings1 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    I don’t know what the issue is. Grandma isn’t dead & grandson doesn’t have 4k in his pocket. Isn’t it her house? Her son just put his name down as a guarantor. Surely she’s made the house payments???

  • @B-6996
    @B-6996 Pƙed rokem +1

    Ramsey needs to determine who is manipulative. I doubt the wife is listed in the will, therefore the “we” is likely her husband. Furthermore, would she have a problem if the 20 year old was her child and were the two year olds conceived before the contract was made?

  • @drewdelaney4166
    @drewdelaney4166 Pƙed rokem

    She’s a controller lol

  • @coconat777
    @coconat777 Pƙed rokem +6

    Sorry Dave but grandma can do whatever she wants with HER money. Even if the step mum is right in that hee step son is irresponsible, grandma would prefer him to have the money than over her actual son and his wife. That says a lot!!

  • @lukeiskandar1208
    @lukeiskandar1208 Pƙed rokem +1

    Am I missing something? When did the step mom say he was irresponsible?

  • @xsgtxbigboy1655
    @xsgtxbigboy1655 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    He wants them to give the money to charity and not the 20 year old to “ruin his life” so to set him up in the future is terrible now nice

  • @commonplantqueen
    @commonplantqueen Pƙed rokem +2

    In what part of this video did the caller say the 20 year old was irresponsible? I don’t get Dave’s advice at all on this one! Dave doesn’t know half the story that’s going on! Dave was very judgmental

  • @Rick_Kn
    @Rick_Kn Pƙed rokem +1

    Are there any other siblings of the husband? And it's contingent on the sale of the house. Maybe they sell their house and move into grandma's house. Too many unknowns here.

  • @bigboyk1989
    @bigboyk1989 Pƙed rokem

    From what I heard the husband use to be bad with money not the grandson đŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„ŽđŸ„Ž

  • @donnadagostino7717
    @donnadagostino7717 Pƙed rokem

    Good advice.

  • @janetchang1527
    @janetchang1527 Pƙed rokem +1

    I don’t get it 
 isn’t it grandma’s money ? It’s her will 
 she can give it to whoever she wants 
 no need to correct the will if she’s happy with it and she seems to be in a good state of mind to make the right judgement (not mentally incapable or anything)

  • @josephsummerhays4650
    @josephsummerhays4650 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Woah there in the comments section. It doesn't seem to me Grandma is taking care of her grandbaby with her own money. She's taking care of her grandbaby with the money she scammed out of her son by making him pay the mortgage that she held the title to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not the case?

  • @unelectedleader6494
    @unelectedleader6494 Pƙed rokem +6

    Nothing wrong with giving a young adult 400k. Dave’s kids had school paid for and then given good “work” by him amounts to the same. Dave himself benefitted from his parents being in real estate his whole life. Stop complaining.

  • @dudeorduuude5211
    @dudeorduuude5211 Pƙed rokem

    I am a little confused with this one. Unethical because the two other grandkids were left out? Or because it goes to a 20 year old? The commenters talking about the evil stepmother... sounds like she is just watching out for the kids and the 20 year could still get money but in a trust.