You can tell that Pyro raged at wow before out of passion and love he is still enthuasiastic that he still remembers all that lore and he remembers the theories he had
I remember him saying all the lore and theories that built up made him fall in love with it then bfa and sl shtting all over everything made him hate it
@@phatymcdaddy but now it seems they are going back at then with the theories with the world soul & the main titan pantheon like eonar and sargeras and i am most excited about seeing what they will do with Aman Thul
They know they fucked up. The entire trailer for the war within was an apology to us. The last 3 expansions are completely forgettable and 6 years wasted.
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised that Pyro has apparently been making WoW videos again. I kind of put a mental note not to expect it anymore. I guess, I don't understand people? - Adûnâi
Oh boy I smiled the whole way through… I was so invested in your theories back in the day and I can vividly remember you talking about all these topics in the various videos. Maybe Aman’thul pulls some wicked time shenannigans irl and one day we will get to see Pyro excited about WoW lore again
I could honestly listen to Pyro talk wow conspiracies all day. That year where that was the entire channel was the most I ever watched you. Why blizzard isn't reaching out to you about creative writing is beyond me.
The weirdest part about the Titan-Old God thing is that they said you cannot kill the Old Gods, but we did. They said the Old Gods wanted to corrupt Azeroth but they didn’t in like 10’s of thousands of years? Why not? They easily had enough time. Then they are imprisoned inside the planet when they could have been defeated? I want to see what’s happening next
Are you f*ing kidding me? I just watched the announcement to the next three expansions and I was talking about how sad it is that Pyro doesn’t do WoW stuff anymore (which was totally understandable after Shadowlands) and then this video pops up?! Holy shit! I’ve watched it immediately and I’m hopeful for what’s to come for the game. That’s the shit I’ve wanted to see since the end of Legion whenever Sargeras hit THAT sword into Azeroth. Pyro, did you see the announcement, are you excited?
I just realized that the new "Light-like" power of the Arathi that was shown in the BlizzCon presentation could be a lore setup to justify that all the priest and paladin can still use the "Light" after it turns against us.
Love how deep the theories go. Studying the inspiration to understand the WoW lore is very important and i think Pyro is the first youtuber speculating on WoW lore that does it
I have missed this so much. As hesitant as I am to invest time into this game again, you breathe so much life into the potential of the story using the pieces that have been built.
I love how you are here, again. Loved your works from day 1. And now after more than 5 years all things you said before came true. ALL I CAN SAY IS CONGRATUALTIONS.
Oh god I hope you are back! I used to listen to your videos when I was working at my warehouse job during the overnights and that's how I got my WoW lore fix. Im so excited now.
100% keep up the lore spec videos, so good to see you back in action, and its clear that other creators have taken your ideas for their own videos - also still can't believe one of them came up with "Lifelands" as a thing 😂
Not gonna lie, Pyro old conspiracy stuff in Legion made me love the story 100 times more. This is nice ^ ^ he's just the best at this honestly. also,the fkin veil???? omg LMAO NARU REACTION XDDDDDDD Such a good video
The magnificent lore of WOW is the reason why I found you, Pyro. You're the man! So excited to see the story unfold over the span of the World Soul Saga
My friends and I still refer to you as the “WoW conspiracy guy” or “WoW Alex Jones” (in a joking manner, not meant in any negative way). I loved hearing your theories and learning about the lore. Excited to see you back! No one does the WoW theories quite like you and it really makes me enjoy the game more.
Hi there, I just found your channel and really enjoy your theories and the talks about the lore in general. I like listening to your thoughts and to learn these little details i missed over the years. So thank you and keep on doing what you do
idk if you saw the wow worldsouls stuff before this or whatever cause ive only recently found your content agai but the last few minutes of this video talk abot the core and worldsoul stuff and id like to believe your passion brought you to these ideas all on your own and that you just straight up predicted the worldsoul saga, this is now my head canaon of events
Was catching up on the Blizzcon reveal (after taking a wow hiatus during shadowlands till present) and was like where’s Pyro to theorize?! Glad to see you talking about it again 😊
To add on to the whole light reversing time to heal, in the Opening cinematic of BFA when Andiun calls upon the light to res the fallen, it almost look like he was rewinding time to bring everyone back to life. Not actually healing them but reversing that pocket of the timeline to reverse the result of death.
really interesting the theory that all healing has to do with time. For the nature heals its more obvious "regrowth","wild growth","rejuvenation". In SoD we see mages use arcane to heal, and there its very obvious that its about time too "Temporal Beacon", "rewind time".
i bet war within- we find out azeroth is already corrupted and we save her. - we come back to surface for midnight to deal with the old gods who survived and kept corrupting her - then.. the last titan, the titans return, azeroth is born and pulls the sword out of the planet and kills the other titans
Does anyone else find it a little strange that in the final legion cinematic Sargeras was just kinda chilling in a cloud around Azeroth before we show up and the titans call him back? Seems like he would have had plenty of time to stab the planet before then and, once he is recalled, he just kinda lets go of his sword when it looks like he could have finished the job. I haven’t closely followed WoW lore since Cata, but, if the original story that Sargeras found Azeroth infected with Old Gods prompted his crusade is still canon, could you see them adding some sort of deeper connection between Azeroth and Sargeras that we haven’t heard about? Perhaps Sargeras could have communicated with Azeroth and established some form of familial or romantic bond with the titan soul (age and relationships are kinda weird when it comes to gods in mythology) that drove him to free her from her imprisonment by means of a non-fatal wound. Idk, but it’s fun to ramble 🤷♂️
I'm wondering if azeroth is going to be more than a titan. Titans are born from world souls but by their influence. It always sounded like to me that world souls could become anything. Cuz amanthul went around making more titans from world souls but sargaeras mention what he saw a worldsoul become with void influence terrified him what if azeroth is a worldsouls that grows to be influenced by us and doesn't turn into a being but stays a planetary body. And if she did emerge from the planet it might end up like argus where it was still a hospitable planet but sundered in two
@@phatymcdaddy I think its either: 1. Something way stronger than Titans-A chief Titan if you will. 2. Same thing as 1. but corrupted to the core. Honestly, Azeroth is such a Lovecraftian name. It sounds so similar to Azathoth which is strongest Outer God in Cthulhu Mythos. Guess what? He is also sleeping/dormant and when he awakens everything ceases to exist. ''it might end up like argus where it was still a hospitable planet but sundered in two'' Oh shit, post-apocalyptic Azeroth. That would be sick, but I will rather like to see a planet wide exodus through Dark Portal into some unknown planet. It would be a nice setup for Warcraft 4 or WoW 2 if they ever decide to do it. They could create whole new factions in Warcraft 4. No more Horde versus Alliance, but something new. Something fresh.
In my headcanon, The Naaru are an unbelievably ancient race that shed their fleshy bodies to go into the void and stand toe-to-toe with the void entities to fight them.
I think it's really cool that you make comparisons with WoW to Ancient mythology, cos a lot of players don't (for whatever reasons) and it's a shame cos I think it makes the WoW storyline a lot easier to understand. Sargeras is to Aman'Thul (Titans) what Set (Sutekh) was to Ra (Egyptian mythology). Also Amun 'Thul and Ra-Den are a crossover of Amun-Ra where Amun was the Night Sky, Ra was the Sun (but Amun was introduced later on through the Hyksos Reign). The Greek/Romans were obsessed with the Egyptians and tried to assimilate their Gods into their own culture in later history as well as pass them off as their own creation. The Egyptians and Sumerians were known for having superior technology (for that time) and it was Enlil (Sumer) that deemd the Nephlim (WoW version would be the Nathrezim I guess) to be flawed and wanted to wipe them out against Enki's wishes. Enlil was the Defender of Earth...kind of like how Sargeras and Neltharion and The Primus were also Defenders (basically Military Commanders who ended up staging a Military Coup).
What did they do? Sylvanas was always a cunt. Sylvanas didn’t want to be damned and she believe that was an unjust fate. She sided with the Jailer because he said he would fix it. He lied because what he really wanted domination.
Hmm is it possible that Amanthul veiled Azeroth to hide her from Sargeras, and when Illidan used the sargerite crystal it allowed Sarg to "see" through the veil and do the stabby thing? I know Sargeras has technically been to Azeroth before, but I believe it would have been using portal magic rather than traditional physical access. Perhaps he could not physically interact with Azeroth from outside the veil until Legion.
In a “did you know?” Thing for blizzcon, a little thing on the bottom, one of them said “Amirdrassil rearranged says DISARM LAIRS”. Hmmm. Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.
14:25 - The Etherals wanted the Void to become immortal Ehhm.. So the Etherals are basically the Necrons from Warhammer 40k. Spoke to a God-level entity that promised them eternal Life but did so by stripping their souls from their bodies and put them into machines (Etherals are now instead just Energy-beings)..
So apparently, the crystal in the Arathi zone was flat out denied to be the tip of the Sword. So what the actual fuck is a presumably Naaru crystal (it transitions between light and void, they showed that off in the deep dive panel and it apparently called the Humans down to there) doing lodged into the ceiling of a cavern that, judging from the sword denial, would be somewhere around/under Lordaeron/Arathi, in that bit of the world?
I wish there was some condensed format for showing people this side of the lore, many people I know are worried about the Last Titan because "Titans have always been the good guys, Blizz stop retconning shit" (paraphrased)
Check the Tauren Lore for Lo'sho (Elunaria) it literaly says, "Unbeknownst to the Earth Mother, her tear fell to the earth and from it sprung a new life: a baby glowing blue with life and light, kin to the spark that burned in both Sun and Moon".. I agree the Sun we "see" going up above Azeroth in our days is actually Elunaria(Lo'sho) and not the "original" sun(An'she). Now guess three times where An'she has gone...
I'd like to point out that Time magic as it is seen in DF looks a lot like the Light, if you ignore the sand-y aspect of it. It looks radiant, it looks warm, and before DF most of the Time spells looked a lot more like Light than they did Arcane, even if Chronomancy is supposed to be Arcane magic. The Lightbound also trap Mag'har in some kind of timeless state, or at least the Naaru does, which suggests the Naaru do have at least some power over Time, something that should definitely concern the Bronze Dragonflight, but they seem oddly fine with that stuff. On another note, Divine magic is the sub-school of magic when you mix Arcane and Light together. The beam in Uldir when you blast G'huun LOOKS like Light, it literally looks like a pure ray of holy energy. You see similar forms of energy used in DF, almost as if they want to portray that as 'Titan magic'. Even the Watchers on the Dragon Isles have these kind of spells that look Holy, but deal Arcane damage. Lot of connection there, seemingly.
my conspiracy is that pyro has been working for the wow story team for years and switched to ff14 because he was too busy working at blizzard to play wow so he had to play a game like ff14 where you can play it super casually
Dude you're cooking. Any chance we could get a new recap prep video for people coming back for the saga, I have a some friends that could really use a structured total recap with the main beats so they can come into the saga knowing what they need to know. Patreon access maybe ? Thanks
The plot device that the void lords ever wanted to be a part of reality never made sense in my opinion. Why become a part of another dimension in which you already know you would be weaker. Not only that, we can’t fully comprehend the size of the void lords. From the lore I’ve read, they are cosmically large. They are massive. We thought Yogg-Saron was large when he covered the entirety of Northrend (not on the surface) but the void lords are like a billion times the size of that.
No... KEEP COOKING! You caught me with that "World is a prison"... ties back to what you were saying.... I mean she did literally shatter the skybox and show us that everything we knew about the lore is wrong or something... Now I personally ignore everything that happened once we got into shadowlands... but that was fun food for thought.
As someone only recently returning to WoW after being incredibly angry at it for a couple of years, it's so cool to hear your takes on things again. Your theories were my favourites, and I loved listening to you talk things out and share your process and ideas. ♥
Are all worlds titan cages? In the OG map image, along with the clouds/mists around Azeroth we also see the interrupted outlines on each planet. Could they represent titan stasis cages?
i watched all your old speculations and loved it, genuinely made me sad after seeing everything they made after legion my only hope is that metzen has time to oversee what the writers are doing and stops them from repeating their mistakes
I feel that the conspiracy of the titans and Azeroth will take up the concept of the Celestials in Marvel: they create order in the universe like the titans, regulate a very specific planet to prepare the birth of a world-soul, but in return, the planet must disappear. Imagine that the planet Azeroth is a shell, and the world-soul is a chick. To be born he must break his shell. Let's be serious for two seconds, do you honestly think that the life of an entire civilization concerns the titans? Algalon had told us in the past that the Pantheon razed people because they were, according to them, unstable and uncontrollable.
Something click with the first part of this video Do you think aman thul is an agent of the void 1 shielding us from seeing the true sky of void 2 angry sargeras cleaved a void titan in half 3 nozdormu unable to see the true time line just like the void because of his powers being tied to aman thul
I love this video , pls more of this. I guessed next expansion quite easily and i think many did but the second one and last one huh not even near. Is last titan azeroth?, What if azeroth is sargerases wife and he wanted to free her and he is angry fire boy because titans imprisoned her and took her away from him and once they get reunited they both be chillin???!?!??!
Azeroth appears to radiate all colours. I believe she IS the clockmaker and the Titans have emprisoned her just like the Greek Gods defeated the Titans. And also believe that the Titans are not Titans. They are just constructs. They have never created life. Just other constructs like themselves. Although I hated SL it did show us that all the Gods, Eternals, Titans, etc.. are just constructs.
i sub to alot of that "theories" actually for a very long time.. Man its an exciting time to see WoW finally finding maybe a greater storyline in a small cadence. I hope i live that long.
You can tell that Pyro raged at wow before out of passion and love
he is still enthuasiastic that he still remembers all that lore and he remembers the theories he had
And we cant blame him tbh
I remember him saying all the lore and theories that built up made him fall in love with it then bfa and sl shtting all over everything made him hate it
@@phatymcdaddy but now it seems they are going back at then with the theories with the world soul & the main titan pantheon like eonar and sargeras and i am most excited about seeing what they will do with Aman Thul
They know they fucked up. The entire trailer for the war within was an apology to us. The last 3 expansions are completely forgettable and 6 years wasted.
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised that Pyro has apparently been making WoW videos again. I kind of put a mental note not to expect it anymore. I guess, I don't understand people?
- Adûnâi
Oh boy I smiled the whole way through… I was so invested in your theories back in the day and I can vividly remember you talking about all these topics in the various videos. Maybe Aman’thul pulls some wicked time shenannigans irl and one day we will get to see Pyro excited about WoW lore again
wow Pyro is back baby, fasten your seatbelts
Really miss your passion and lore vids :( hopefully the upcoming story is good enough to get you back
Took the words right out of my brain. 🧠
I could honestly listen to Pyro talk wow conspiracies all day. That year where that was the entire channel was the most I ever watched you. Why blizzard isn't reaching out to you about creative writing is beyond me.
The weirdest part about the Titan-Old God thing is that they said you cannot kill the Old Gods, but we did. They said the Old Gods wanted to corrupt Azeroth but they didn’t in like 10’s of thousands of years? Why not? They easily had enough time. Then they are imprisoned inside the planet when they could have been defeated? I want to see what’s happening next
Are you f*ing kidding me? I just watched the announcement to the next three expansions and I was talking about how sad it is that Pyro doesn’t do WoW stuff anymore (which was totally understandable after Shadowlands) and then this video pops up?! Holy shit! I’ve watched it immediately and I’m hopeful for what’s to come for the game. That’s the shit I’ve wanted to see since the end of Legion whenever Sargeras hit THAT sword into Azeroth.
Pyro, did you see the announcement, are you excited?
Pyro watched it live on stream today. We may or may not be seeing his reaction hit CZcams very soon. Please look forward to it 😉- Editor
@@Penumbra20 im definitely looking forward to this! 🔥😁 bring it on!
In 3 expansions time, we will discover that Pyromancer was right all along.
We of the WoW community missed you too. :p
We heard you Pyro, all that time ago, we heard. I've missed your logical reknitting of the story threads. ❤
I just realized that the new "Light-like" power of the Arathi that was shown in the BlizzCon presentation could be a lore setup to justify that all the priest and paladin can still use the "Light" after it turns against us.
I love how this rant came from his just thinking about one random Boss’s voice lines lmao, love you Pyro
I am happy to have Pyro back in WoW lore. You sir are literally bringing me back.
Love how deep the theories go. Studying the inspiration to understand the WoW lore is very important and i think Pyro is the first youtuber speculating on WoW lore that does it
I have missed this so much. As hesitant as I am to invest time into this game again, you breathe so much life into the potential of the story using the pieces that have been built.
It’s good to have you back Pyro. Excited for these 3 weeks of lore vids to catch-up on!
I love how you are here, again. Loved your works from day 1. And now after more than 5 years all things you said before came true. ALL I CAN SAY IS CONGRATUALTIONS.
Oh god I hope you are back! I used to listen to your videos when I was working at my warehouse job during the overnights and that's how I got my WoW lore fix. Im so excited now.
100% keep up the lore spec videos, so good to see you back in action, and its clear that other creators have taken your ideas for their own videos - also still can't believe one of them came up with "Lifelands" as a thing 😂
22:40 Also It's in some way Jaina, Arthas and Uther
Not gonna lie, Pyro old conspiracy stuff in Legion made me love the story 100 times more. This is nice ^ ^ he's just the best at this honestly.
also,the fkin veil???? omg
LMAO NARU REACTION XDDDDDDD
Such a good video
Pyromancer is the sole reason I have any sort of hype around wow and carry’s all my hope around the lore.
Can't help but feel that Elune has a massive part to play at some point.
The magnificent lore of WOW is the reason why I found you, Pyro. You're the man! So excited to see the story unfold over the span of the World Soul Saga
My friends and I still refer to you as the “WoW conspiracy guy” or “WoW Alex Jones” (in a joking manner, not meant in any negative way). I loved hearing your theories and learning about the lore. Excited to see you back! No one does the WoW theories quite like you and it really makes me enjoy the game more.
5:00 Possibly whatever Farak does in 10.2 allows the Worldsoul to call out to Anduin and Thrall. hmm
Hi there, I just found your channel and really enjoy your theories and the talks about the lore in general. I like listening to your thoughts and to learn these little details i missed over the years. So thank you and keep on doing what you do
Pyro hands down was and is my favorite WoW Lore Master. I so thoroughly enjoy his insight and skill to lay it all out.
Oh god it’s been years. I’ve missed these videos so much! Pyro back baby!
I can't WAIT to get back to WoW. WOW IS BACK. You definitely get a classic vibe with the Kobolt dungeon
It is so warm and fuzzy to hear the passion of Pyro speak wow lore again.🫂
4:27 and remember when sylvanas mocked elune…
Man it's so good to have you back on WoW lore
Damn Pyro, ive missed these of lore speculation videos of yours. These were the reason i subbed to you years ago man!
Keep em coming :)
Strapped in & soulstoned for this journey.
An early Christmas gift from Pyro, I have truly missed these videos. Thank you
i am happy that you are back :) your Legion Lore Vids made me love Legion 10x more
Never played WoW but always enjoy your passion for lore
idk if you saw the wow worldsouls stuff before this or whatever cause ive only recently found your content agai but the last few minutes of this video talk abot the core and worldsoul stuff and id like to believe your passion brought you to these ideas all on your own and that you just straight up predicted the worldsoul saga, this is now my head canaon of events
looking the reveal of worldsoul saga, your prediction are getting closer and closer.
Was catching up on the Blizzcon reveal (after taking a wow hiatus during shadowlands till present) and was like where’s Pyro to theorize?! Glad to see you talking about it again 😊
Younailed it. Imagine... we are going to azeroths core ❤❤❤❤😂
I'm so happy to see you return to WoW lore, Godspeed dude. Your content makes me more excited to play the game more than the game itself lol.
He keeps saying he needs to stop when he needs very badly to not stop.
To add on to the whole light reversing time to heal, in the Opening cinematic of BFA when Andiun calls upon the light to res the fallen, it almost look like he was rewinding time to bring everyone back to life. Not actually healing them but reversing that pocket of the timeline to reverse the result of death.
Your speculations are always the next level
really interesting the theory that all healing has to do with time. For the nature heals its more obvious "regrowth","wild growth","rejuvenation". In SoD we see mages use arcane to heal, and there its very obvious that its about time too "Temporal Beacon", "rewind time".
Missed your videos talking about wow... you heard THE man ... Now it's time to come back!
omg PYRO!!! back on that WoW lore
Wow, he’s coming back, the prodigal son? 😂😂😂😂😂
i bet war within- we find out azeroth is already corrupted and we save her. - we come back to surface for midnight to deal with the old gods who survived and kept corrupting her - then.. the last titan, the titans return, azeroth is born and pulls the sword out of the planet and kills the other titans
Id dig that! Let them cook!
Glad to see you back at WoW lore!
Does anyone else find it a little strange that in the final legion cinematic Sargeras was just kinda chilling in a cloud around Azeroth before we show up and the titans call him back? Seems like he would have had plenty of time to stab the planet before then and, once he is recalled, he just kinda lets go of his sword when it looks like he could have finished the job. I haven’t closely followed WoW lore since Cata, but, if the original story that Sargeras found Azeroth infected with Old Gods prompted his crusade is still canon, could you see them adding some sort of deeper connection between Azeroth and Sargeras that we haven’t heard about? Perhaps Sargeras could have communicated with Azeroth and established some form of familial or romantic bond with the titan soul (age and relationships are kinda weird when it comes to gods in mythology) that drove him to free her from her imprisonment by means of a non-fatal wound. Idk, but it’s fun to ramble 🤷♂️
Pyro back? let's go!!
We are witnessing final years of Azeroth. As a planet at least-Mark my words.
Question is-What will happen to its denizens? New start? New planet?
I'm wondering if azeroth is going to be more than a titan. Titans are born from world souls but by their influence. It always sounded like to me that world souls could become anything. Cuz amanthul went around making more titans from world souls but sargaeras mention what he saw a worldsoul become with void influence terrified him what if azeroth is a worldsouls that grows to be influenced by us and doesn't turn into a being but stays a planetary body. And if she did emerge from the planet it might end up like argus where it was still a hospitable planet but sundered in two
@@phatymcdaddy I think its either:
1. Something way stronger than Titans-A chief Titan if you will.
2. Same thing as 1. but corrupted to the core.
Honestly, Azeroth is such a Lovecraftian name. It sounds so similar to Azathoth which is strongest Outer God in Cthulhu Mythos. Guess what? He is also sleeping/dormant and when he awakens everything ceases to exist.
''it might end up like argus where it was still a hospitable planet but sundered in two''
Oh shit, post-apocalyptic Azeroth. That would be sick, but I will rather like to see a planet wide exodus through Dark Portal into some unknown planet. It would be a nice setup for Warcraft 4 or WoW 2 if they ever decide to do it. They could create whole new factions in Warcraft 4.
No more Horde versus Alliance, but something new. Something fresh.
I'm not swimming in the lore of WoW, I have a basic knowledge of it. But I see cool new places and things to do, and I'm in.
Almost one hour of Pyro talking about titan conspiracy im in
In my headcanon, The Naaru are an unbelievably ancient race that shed their fleshy bodies to go into the void and stand toe-to-toe with the void entities to fight them.
Glad your wow side is back. You've been missed my friend
I think it's really cool that you make comparisons with WoW to Ancient mythology, cos a lot of players don't (for whatever reasons) and it's a shame cos I think it makes the WoW storyline a lot easier to understand.
Sargeras is to Aman'Thul (Titans) what Set (Sutekh) was to Ra (Egyptian mythology). Also Amun 'Thul and Ra-Den are a crossover of Amun-Ra where Amun was the Night Sky, Ra was the Sun (but Amun was introduced later on through the Hyksos Reign). The Greek/Romans were obsessed with the Egyptians and tried to assimilate their Gods into their own culture in later history as well as pass them off as their own creation. The Egyptians and Sumerians were known for having superior technology (for that time) and it was Enlil (Sumer) that deemd the Nephlim (WoW version would be the Nathrezim I guess) to be flawed and wanted to wipe them out against Enki's wishes. Enlil was the Defender of Earth...kind of like how Sargeras and Neltharion and The Primus were also Defenders (basically Military Commanders who ended up staging a Military Coup).
This right here is the content I miss the most. Only pyro does lore videos as good as this in my view. no one comes close
Wait until he hears about the Arathi and there "fire based paladin like" abilities.
I will never forgive them for what they did to Sylvanas
What did they do? Sylvanas was always a cunt. Sylvanas didn’t want to be damned and she believe that was an unjust fate. She sided with the Jailer because he said he would fix it. He lied because what he really wanted domination.
Fucking finally you're back to WoW! ❤️
Please don't leave ever again. I don't like ALL your theories, but the ones I do like are legendary
Your tinfoiling have never been more valid! Pyro back and swingin hard! ❤
Voidlords could be weakened in reality ,because reality is an amalgamation of light and void , and the light does them an ouchie.
The man was a 5 star michelin chef by the end of this.
Hmm is it possible that Amanthul veiled Azeroth to hide her from Sargeras, and when Illidan used the sargerite crystal it allowed Sarg to "see" through the veil and do the stabby thing? I know Sargeras has technically been to Azeroth before, but I believe it would have been using portal magic rather than traditional physical access. Perhaps he could not physically interact with Azeroth from outside the veil until Legion.
In a “did you know?” Thing for blizzcon, a little thing on the bottom, one of them said “Amirdrassil rearranged says DISARM LAIRS”. Hmmm. Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.
The whole infinite loop is a StarCraft thing right? Pretty sure that’s what the Xel’naga want to keep happening
And then Kerrigan comes along and breaks it. So fucking dope. Kinda reminds me of someone we know... :)
I wonder if we ever get to rewatch the old school lore videos 🥲
14:25 - The Etherals wanted the Void to become immortal
Ehhm.. So the Etherals are basically the Necrons from Warhammer 40k.
Spoke to a God-level entity that promised them eternal Life but did so by stripping their souls from their bodies and put them into machines (Etherals are now instead just Energy-beings)..
So apparently, the crystal in the Arathi zone was flat out denied to be the tip of the Sword. So what the actual fuck is a presumably Naaru crystal (it transitions between light and void, they showed that off in the deep dive panel and it apparently called the Humans down to there) doing lodged into the ceiling of a cavern that, judging from the sword denial, would be somewhere around/under Lordaeron/Arathi, in that bit of the world?
I wish there was some condensed format for showing people this side of the lore, many people I know are worried about the Last Titan because "Titans have always been the good guys, Blizz stop retconning shit" (paraphrased)
Woooot, the GOAT is back!
Check the Tauren Lore for Lo'sho (Elunaria) it literaly says, "Unbeknownst to the Earth Mother, her tear fell to the earth and from it sprung a new life: a baby glowing blue with life and light, kin to the spark that burned in both Sun and Moon".. I agree the Sun we "see" going up above Azeroth in our days is actually Elunaria(Lo'sho) and not the "original" sun(An'she). Now guess three times where An'she has gone...
we discussed the Veil being a real thing that was put up by the Titans years ago Pyro. It's been mentioned and shown since Vanilla :D
I'd like to point out that Time magic as it is seen in DF looks a lot like the Light, if you ignore the sand-y aspect of it. It looks radiant, it looks warm, and before DF most of the Time spells looked a lot more like Light than they did Arcane, even if Chronomancy is supposed to be Arcane magic. The Lightbound also trap Mag'har in some kind of timeless state, or at least the Naaru does, which suggests the Naaru do have at least some power over Time, something that should definitely concern the Bronze Dragonflight, but they seem oddly fine with that stuff. On another note, Divine magic is the sub-school of magic when you mix Arcane and Light together. The beam in Uldir when you blast G'huun LOOKS like Light, it literally looks like a pure ray of holy energy. You see similar forms of energy used in DF, almost as if they want to portray that as 'Titan magic'. Even the Watchers on the Dragon Isles have these kind of spells that look Holy, but deal Arcane damage. Lot of connection there, seemingly.
I need to know what Emet-Selch TTS was used for the edits lmao
loves the video, we need you back
my conspiracy is that pyro has been working for the wow story team for years and switched to ff14 because he was too busy working at blizzard to play wow so he had to play a game like ff14 where you can play it super casually
he had to switch because they were woried he will leak everything in his "conspiracy" theories
this is why we love you Pyro! 😂🙂🙏
Welcome back Pyro, we missed you
Dude you're cooking. Any chance we could get a new recap prep video for people coming back for the saga, I have a some friends that could really use a structured total recap with the main beats so they can come into the saga knowing what they need to know. Patreon access maybe ? Thanks
The plot device that the void lords ever wanted to be a part of reality never made sense in my opinion. Why become a part of another dimension in which you already know you would be weaker. Not only that, we can’t fully comprehend the size of the void lords. From the lore I’ve read, they are cosmically large. They are massive. We thought Yogg-Saron was large when he covered the entirety of Northrend (not on the surface) but the void lords are like a billion times the size of that.
This guy should be the story director of wow fr
No... KEEP COOKING! You caught me with that "World is a prison"... ties back to what you were saying....
I mean she did literally shatter the skybox and show us that everything we knew about the lore is wrong or something... Now I personally ignore everything that happened once we got into shadowlands... but that was fun food for thought.
The World Soul Saga brought Pyromancer back. BFA and Shadowlands were a waste of time and a mockery of the WOW lore.
I need Argus to be Azeroths Nathanos or at least her child. I'm really hoping they're some kind of thing.
As someone only recently returning to WoW after being incredibly angry at it for a couple of years, it's so cool to hear your takes on things again. Your theories were my favourites, and I loved listening to you talk things out and share your process and ideas. ♥
Why did the titans consider us worth deceiving before any of us existed?
At the right time, with the right moment ... the prophet shall awake, and deliver his words onto both faithful and unbelievers.
Boys...is he cookin again!!!??!
Are all worlds titan cages? In the OG map image, along with the clouds/mists around Azeroth we also see the interrupted outlines on each planet. Could they represent titan stasis cages?
Dood loved this.
Any chance I can talk about the next few xpac reveal at blizzcon even tho I hate retail now
I love a good pyro speculation
i watched all your old speculations and loved it, genuinely made me sad after seeing everything they made after legion
my only hope is that metzen has time to oversee what the writers are doing and stops them from repeating their mistakes
I feel that the conspiracy of the titans and Azeroth will take up the concept of the Celestials in Marvel: they create order in the universe like the titans, regulate a very specific planet to prepare the birth of a world-soul, but in return, the planet must disappear. Imagine that the planet Azeroth is a shell, and the world-soul is a chick. To be born he must break his shell.
Let's be serious for two seconds, do you honestly think that the life of an entire civilization concerns the titans? Algalon had told us in the past that the Pantheon razed people because they were, according to them, unstable and uncontrollable.
Something click with the first part of this video
Do you think aman thul is an agent of the void
1 shielding us from seeing the true sky of void
2 angry sargeras cleaved a void titan in half
3 nozdormu unable to see the true time line just like the void because of his powers being tied to aman thul
I love this video , pls more of this. I guessed next expansion quite easily and i think many did but the second one and last one huh not even near. Is last titan azeroth?, What if azeroth is sargerases wife and he wanted to free her and he is angry fire boy because titans imprisoned her and took her away from him and once they get reunited they both be chillin???!?!??!
Azeroth appears to radiate all colours. I believe she IS the clockmaker and the Titans have emprisoned her just like the Greek Gods defeated the Titans. And also believe that the Titans are not Titans. They are just constructs. They have never created life. Just other constructs like themselves. Although I hated SL it did show us that all the Gods, Eternals, Titans, etc.. are just constructs.
i sub to alot of that "theories" actually for a very long time.. Man its an exciting time to see WoW finally finding maybe a greater storyline in a small cadence. I hope i live that long.