Extra History's World War 1 - Part 2 (The Assassination of Franz Ferdinand) - Historian Reaction
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Seriously, if this was a fictional Story, I would highly criticize it for all these contrived Coincidences happening here...
History is indeed sometimes stranger than fiction!
@@VloggingThroughHistory How did Mark Twain once put it?
"The difference between Reality and Fiction is that Fiction needs to be realistic."
Just look at the epic fantasy tale that is The Punic Wars, in the very first Extra History series
Considering the number of similar terrorist attacks at the time, one of them was bound to succeed so catastrophically
its sad but true
"...but all it takes is the will of a single man." -Makarov
my eyes always water a little when he says "sophie, sophie, dont die. live for our children".
That part always breaks my heart too, especially the fact that he was so concerned for his wife that he didn’t even realize how badly hurt he was. I can’t even imagine how devastated their kids must’ve been losing both of their parents like that 🥺
me too, always in that part
@@NatalieJ22 In prison, Gavrilo wrote an apology to the Archduke's three children Ernst, Sophie, and Maximillian. Sophie and Ernst wrote back saying that he can now live without any regrets because they forgive him while Ernst refused to forgive him or even sign the letter back.
@@merlotpapi4930 that must’ve really taken a lot for two of his kids to forgive him. I’m sure a lot of soul searching must’ve gone into that for them. I don’t blame Ernst, I’m not sure I would ever be able to forgive the man that murdered both of my parents.
And I was having a good day until I heard this
The lines about one of the assassins stopping out of pity for his wife and the Archduke’s last words hits hard
This really feels like a timetraveller wanted to intervene and told Franz Ferdinand to duck under the grenade but the universe wanted it to go this way and let the driver take the wrong turn.
Or maybe what happened without WWI - which is an even more destructive conflict down the road that ends western civilization entirely - motivated a time traveler drove down a street where he knew Franz Ferdinand would be killed.
If somebody wrote these events out as a fictional story, people would call the writer a hack for relying on too many coincidences.
12:40 Think of all the times where a driver could have taken a wrong turn that would drastically have altered history but didn't...
Let's be honest the big powers was itching for a war and saw this assassination as an excuse to start it
True. Which always makes me wonder just how much we should really blame it all on the assassination. If it hadnt been that, it might have been something else.
@@VloggingThroughHistory it always would be because of some damn fool in the balkans
In many ways it seems like it was inevitable. The stage was set for a world war, even if the assassination hadn’t happen or that hadn’t led to Austria-Hungary declaring war, there would’ve been something else. One way or anything there would’ve been a spark that ignited WWI, assassination or otherwise.
Maybe the chaos would be postponed to the moment Franz Ferdinand took the throne, and he was against such a war.
@@NatalieJ22 yeah but if it had taken a few years more for this to happen, history probably would be completely different
I can't wait for the ending of the 4th part of this series. Even though I have seen it multiple times, it is still an emotional ending. the rendition of In Flanders Fields at the end of each episode brings on just such a somber tone that makes me reflect on the events that led to the war in a way nothing else can.
I live in Flanders and oh man, we still can feel the WW1.
There's a good German movie called Sarajevo, which suggests the Austrians were perfectly fine with the risk, since they wanted a reason to go to war with Serbia.
Dude, I like listening to your videos on my drive to work.
Glad you like them!
Germany gets all the hate for the 2 WW's and then there is Serbia and Austria chilling as nothing happened.😂😂
Austria's empire collapsed.
Serbia got its wish of a "kingdom of Southern Slavs" (Yugoslavia).
@@TheSkyGuy77 Yea, 'that' end well :D
How is Serbia at fault for existing, also they did start the war bcuz they wanted to occupy Serbia for years so they got what they wanted knowing it would mean war with everyone.
@@BlueWoWTaylan Pls do not say Kingdom of Yugoslavia is the same as Tito's dictatorship bcuz its not.
Funnily enough both world wars were started in some part by an Austrian...
Considering the size of extra history videos, you should probably do them in groups of two in your reactions. most EH's are about 5 or 6 videos per subject, so it would be better then you having to make 5 or 6 videos to react to them.
Yeah, I'd considered that with this one. Might be a good idea moving forward.
@@VloggingThroughHistory I don't know if your looking to continue with EH vids after these ones, but a good thing to note is that they also have 'lies' videos, which are basically fact checks for whichever series came before it. They entertain but definitely take history seriously at EH.
I had no idea that the Archduke did not die in the parade. The actions of the young assassins is just so, so comically tragic. 😔
He ended up regretting it in the end
Extra Credits video quality have gone several notches since this series was published. Keep reacting to their stuff. I recommend the South Seas Bubble for some truly crazy financial shenanigans that will put the GAMESTOP controversy to shame.
I literally see you on anything history related lol.
Wait that means I’m everywhere too. x/
yh, the video seems very old.
one thing that's shocked me about ww1 I've recently discovered is how quickly gas was used i thought it was wayyy later in the war.
The moment they could they used it
same with all the other horrific weapons. the first war where submarines and machine guns where used in super large scale warfare. the first war where nations started using planes and airships in war. every modern military weapon apart from nuclear bombs and computers had its concepts and fundamentals born in this war.
I really like how they explained all the precursors leading up to the outbreak of WWI, not just the war itself. Part 1 taught me a lot of what I never knew. So thanks! Love Vlogging’s reactions! THanks to you too!
I would kill for a TV series based on the events of July 1914. And this episode perfectly storyboards how the opening moments should go.
First off you said July not June
I really wish there were series or documentaries more of pre ww1 and the events that happened
I see alot of documentaries and series opt for ww2 than ww1
that was quite the sight when we visited a museum in vienna displaying the blood covered uniform of franz ferdinand and the car they died in
I am loving the way you call out things just before they get to them. And yeah, they goofed on the son thing. As much detail and care as they put into these things, there is the occasional slip of the tongue or just honest miswording at times that they don't catch. Big one is flags, it's more or less a running gag at this point that every major series dealing with Europe in some fashion will have at least one flag wrong for the country/year it's shown for. Especially when it comes to England, their artist has more or less declared the Acts of Union their personal nemesis. It's why they follow these up with a 'Lies' video where the writer goes back and addresses mistakes, errors, or just adds in cool details that they couldn't ft in the episode.
That's the tricky thing about reacting to things I haven't seen before...I sometimes end up saying things right before they address them in the videos. Appreciate your feedback!
@@VloggingThroughHistory I do love it, really shows how well you know this and how into it you are.
hearing those coincides piled upon themselves.. man thats plot armor on another level,.. compareable to Rorkes Drift..
Gavrilo, to his death remained proud of the act of assassination of the archduke. However, he always expressed remorse for shooting Sophie.
ironically he protested the first world war.
Extra history is great, I particularly enjoyed their series on admiral Yi
that motivated me to look up the movie(which is a movie, not a documentary, but still awesome).
The organization wasn't called young Serbia but young Bosnia, just fact checking to make everything right, historian fellow from Serbia here
EDIT: It's believed that Serbian government didn't have anything to do with assassination, the guy in charge of Black Hand was executed later on in 1917 in Thessalonica, though for different reason, but he wasn't in the best relations with royalty and government
Good catch! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Bosnia
That's not the only mistake, for example crowd and guards in the parade wave Serbian flags in which I doubt. I am not sure is in in this one but they keep mixing up Serbia and Bosnia and Belgrade and Sarajevo.
This seems like a blatant lie from the makers of this video to me because I've never heard anyone call the group "Young Serbia". It's really hard to make such a mistake by accident.
Also, Gavrilo identified himself not as a Serbian nationalist, but as a Yugoslav nationalist. The ultimate goal of his ideology was the liberation of Southern Slavs living under the Austria-Hungarian occupation. That includes Croats, Slovenes and Bosnia's muslim population at the time. This is a problem because it might create the wrong picture in people's minds. Someone might think that this was solely a Serbian movement when it actually had both muslims and Croats as members/followers. It is important to point this out. Greetings from a Sarajevo Serb!
@@SuperRa96 Why would they lie on purpose?
The makers does adress this in an apendix video they do after all long series, called "misstakes" or something similar. They just confused the name, that's all.
These videos are brilliant please keep them up!
Franz Ferdinand: You say you don’t know, I say, take me out.
Out of all the ironies that started WW1, I think the great power least prepared and least willing to fight a big war was the one that eventually started it. I mean, Austria Hungary at that moment in time did not really have an agenda of expansion but rather one of consolidation (where they were discussing and planning different ways to keep their Empire alive), and yes, interestingly enough, as you mentioned, Franz Ferdinand was the one person that could have been able and would have been willing to give the southern slavs what they wanted. He didn't really like them (after all, he was just as racist as pretty much every single person during that time), but the "United states of greater Austria" that was proposed by blessed Karl in an effort to save the great power during his short reign was Franz Ferdinands brainchild which he argued over multiple times with Franz Joseph and Conrad von Hötzendorf (who would have most likely earned the title of most incompetent leader in any war other than WW1).
All the other big nations had expansionist ideas:
- Germany mainly wanted to form Mittelafrika
- France wanted to get Elsass-Lothringen back
- The UK wanted to humiliate those uprising Germans
- Russia wanted to extend their influence over the Balkans
- Italy wanted to continue their risorgimento.
- And the Ottomans (Ottomen?) wanted to get back at those Balkan States for humiliating them just a few years prior.
But due to this series of unfortunate events, it was Austria Hungary that started the war.
The sandwich story is apocryphal - nice story though, but it is fact that Franz Ferdinands car did stall after taking a wrong turn right where Princip happened to be walking past. Also, still no mention of Conrad von Hotzendorf (lets go with CvH from now on to save me typing it out every time)
CvH was the Chief of the General Staff of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He had pushed for war against Serbia well over a dozen times from about 1912 onwards (that's two years BEFORE FF's assassination). CvH was a big believer that AH needed to show Strength in the face of the rise of different culture groups wanting to break away from the AH Empire. And Serbia was his frequent target. By squashing a breakaway Serbia he reckoned it will pull other dissident factions inside AH into line. As Chief of the General Staff he held a lot of sway with the Emperor ... but one other guy was just a little bit more powerful - yep, Arch-Duke Ferdinand. He constantly rebuffed CvH's warlike proposals and favoured a more modern Federation of semi-independent states inside the Empire. So Princip killed the one man that had stood in the way of CvH's desire for war against Serbia for several years. With FF's death Princip had unknowingly removed that barrier and given CvH exactly what he had wanted - war with Serbia.
hgg you have to see the hunt for bismarck from extra history
La realidad superando a la ficción. Que gran manera de relatarlo !! Y los comentarios de la reacción se VTH son perfectos. ESTO debería ser visto en las escuelas .
They have a video in the playlist for this series about all of the mistakes they made be sure to check it out
Man I am loving these reaction videos. I loved watching the content by myself but it is so great to hear someone else's insight, It feels like we are trading knowledge to get a better understanding of the past. I feel as if I learn double what I would have otherwise watching alone. Also its great to meet other random people who love history.
Agree 100%. I learn so much just from the comments of others on my videos. Glad you're a part of the community!
Another big villains here were all the other nobles with this "status" bullX. Had Franz had no problem in his marriage and be accepted to just walk around with his "lower status" wife, they would not be there to die.
Something I feel is seriously overlooked, if we are talking about what could have stopped WWI is if Kaiser Wilhelm IIs father would have been allowed to rule for more than about 80 days before giving in to cancer. An accomplished veteran of the Franco-Prussian war, a trained statesman, prepaired to rule and prehaps most important, alined with Bismarcks policies..
Watch this guys' Great northern war series, its just as good :)
cant wait for next episode
This is the worst case of: Fiction has to make sense, but reality often doesn't make any sense. So many different variables that neatly fall into place tp create one of the most world-shattering events in history whose consequences we still feel today.
Fantastic Video like allways great Job
How did u watch all of that in 10 minutes when it's a 15-minute video?
@@itsed5164 matter of fact i am stil watching it at this moment but i enjoy the videos as always because they are great and good explained
Me, whose birthday is 28th June: *sad noises thinking about how my birth was literally 89 years to the day after the assassination that lead to ww1, and how my 21st, which is rapidly approaching, will be on the 110th anniversary of that event.*
Before I watch the next part, I just remember learning this as a child, and at every turn I asked "why? why? why?" Makes me even more sad that this was it, the event that made the cold war and in turn affect even Latin America and what it is now.
IMHO, for the simplification reasons it makes perfect sense to say something like "an assassination of Prince started WWI, and so on and so forth", and those odds, are really crazy and make the story even more interesting. But my take is that if assassination wouldn't happen, the WWI will still be there. It was just a good occasion for big power(s) to achieve their goals. They would just wait for another occasion.
PS. I like your reaction videos. Keep it up!
Extra History has an episode named lies to present the information that did not make into the episodes of a topic. Also, they right their mistakes in the episodes.
Seminal Tragedy comes before Lies is introduced. Otherwise, some mistakes would have been corrected.
Something I find interesting about Franz Ferdinand is that he was, in reality incredibly anti- Serbian. However, despite this loathing, he knew that Austria- Hungary needed them if it was to survive as a nation. He was one of the big backers of a Tripartite Kingdom, where instead of just the Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary, there would be a third nation for the Serbs. This entire part of Austro- Hungarian History is immensely fascinating, and full of contradictions like Franz Ferdinand.
He hoped to be the hero who liberated his nation. He's known as the trigger of the seminal catastrophe instead.
Last words hurt so often, none more so than these.
10:35 "It's on the small things that history often turns..."
Death of one guy, for example.
Seriously though, assassinations like that were actually quite common across Europe. This was just the last straw that broke the camel's back.
The channel kings and generals is a little focused on the battlefield. Would you react to those videos?
Of course we'll never know if it would've happened but it's absolutely gut wrenching to think that if the Serbs just waited 2 more years for the current king to die then Franz Ferdinand may have given them what they wanted and WW1 and all subsequent world events may not have happened. Then again the war was probably inevitable
It's astounding that if literally anything had gone different that day, anything at all, ww1 wouldn't have happened. If the driver made the wrong turn onto a different street, if Gavrilo had chosen a different restaurant to have a sandwich, if the car hadn't stalled right there, the 20th century would've been vastly different.
I don't really know much about the man, but Franz Ferdinand has my sympathy for his will to go against the outdated principles of the Habsburg's court and his obvious love for his wife and children
Gavrielo Princep thought he was going to be a hero, instead he ignited a flame of a nuclear bomb.
Someone should do a segment on countries and the amount of time they have been a country. It blows me away how many countries haven't been countries all that long. In the grand scheme of things.
Love ur videos I am in discord group im gonna say all i know about WWI in WWI category
"this was breath of fresh air for both of them " ..... 😬😬🥶🥶
I have to disagree with your assessment that this disaster could have been avoided. There were too many people too upset and too many new ideas for something catastrophic not to happen. The world was changing and Europe was at its heart. It was very unlikely that peaceful change would be the result.
While true, had this assassination not occurred, it could have delayed things, maybe given time for some of the parties to cool off and not get involved.
We don't know how it would have been different but the roll of the die of how things happened, it guaranteed who'd be involved in the war.
Had say, Austria Hungary not gotten involved that's a very different war.
I mean if only they didn’t visit that country…
@@riverroth3688 Considering how absurd it was for a world War to start with an assassination in the Balkans, I'm sure any other minor incident would've triggered a massive war. Afterall, the war got to the scale it was because of the vast alliance networks that got dragged into the war.
@@itsmealex8959 well the assassination didn't really start a world war.. it started the invasion of Serbia because they just killed the heir... After that everyone's allies got involved and it turned into a big war with many layers of different nations with different motives....
If Austria didn't decide to invade serbia there who knows what would have happened. Franz Ferdinand was huge on peace with Serbia and nothing like his uncle...
Franz Ferdinand was pretty much the largest voice in opposition to invading Serbia so if he wasn't assassinated then I doubt that would have happened..
Who knows what other reasons would have been given down the road though...
@@Benji-jj2bg Sounds like to me from your description of events that the assassination started the world war.
Man im from portugal but your videos are really good keep going careful with vírus
Is there a movie that has all this stuff about ferdinand? This seems like a great story that has not been told much.
Honestly, Franz Joseph deserves a lot more blame than random chance. He chose to be unreasonable in the negotiations before WWI. He chose to use the death of his nephew as an excuse to start a war to expand his empire's territory. He may not have known how bad the war would be, but bears a lot of the blame for starting it. Franz Ferdinand could have been killed by someone else, or some other time, these things happen, but the malignant will of Franz Joseph to go to war was already simmering.
The entire World War 1 and everything preceding it was absolutely Murphy's Law on steroids
Eerily similar to Dallas, 1963: open car, wife at side, known route. Wow. 🤔😪
It wasnt called,,young Serbia” it was called ,,young Bosnia”🥴
Yeah, they have a episode at the end called "Lies" where they go over all the misstakes they made and goes in to some details about the stories that might or might not be true. They adress it there, it's an obvious error. There are a couple of them (wrong Russian flag, calling Moscow the capital of Russia etc).
Moral of the story if your a president,king or queen always make sure your car has a roof
If I remember correctly all of the people in their group all had tuberculosis or something similar that had no cure so they didn't think the consequences would affect them because they were already going to die.
That's not true. All of them died before war ended, some were shot, some died in prison because of poor conditions.
Gavrilo Princip was even asked about the war and the assassination, among other things he said he doesn't feel responsable for the and that his only regret was that he killed Sophie which wasn't his intent.
8:49 I thought my guy tried to kill himself but drowning.
imagine living in prision, thinking you should be a hero while hearing daily the news of the thousands of dead that your merely 2 shots caused... was it worth it?
Irony: Gavrilo Princip actually protested WW1. Yes, the man who (indirectly) caused The Great War protested that same war.
I wonder if he'd be horrified of what happened after or flattered to be remembered at all considering the average person doesn't know any of the AHE royals
What role did the the Crimean War play leading up to the events that led to WWI?
I'm curious, the swedish word for principle is princip. Does the word come from Gavrilo Princip or did he just happen to have that last name? Feels like a strange name, but is the word principle so young to be named after him?
No, the word is much much older. "Princip" comes from the Old French "principal", which came from Latin "principalis". The Latin origin is sometime in the 11th century.
Some people say that the world is a chess board... But on that day the chess board was swapped with a dice game, and they were rolling D20s
a series of unfortunate events that seemed so unlikely it was almost as if by design O_O it's a conspiracy man
Franz Joseph was also a cousin of Pedro II, Emperor of Brazil.
Please do Articles of confederation. :3
The tragedy of the moment when the Archduke dies, that lead to a greater tragedy no one could have imagined. Not to mention, the whole concept of how he died, the events of the assassination, if you put it to pen and paper in a book, it might seem comical. If it was made into a Hollywood film, no one could believe it, it would be an absolute farce. And yet, over 100 million people would be dead in a couple decades, including the victims of the Holocaust.
8:48 karma at its finest
07:50 By the sounds of it, had that plot succeeded, the conditions in the southern states imposed upon the black communities would've been even harsher (Jim Crow on steroids).
Can you react to history buffs he is great
You should react to historia civilis videos he does Ancient Rome
Word!
Historia Civlis is an must for Rome History. It leans heavily on Julius Cesar era, but eh, there's so much to talk about during time period.
definitely Ceasar and Napoleon. big changes in tactics.
My great great great grandfather saw this assassination
Three years to late but the name of the group was not "Young Serbia". It was "Young Bosnia".
Name of movemnt is not "Young Serbia" it is "Young Bosnia"
My mom has a conspiracy theory that the driver was in on it too. She says it's too much of a coincidence how that happened.
If it was in the era of mobile telephones, maybe. But I can’t see how it could have been coordinated
I thought the Black Hand definitely had connections to the Serbian government. Not like it was a covert arm of it, but there were certainly members of the black hand high up in Serbia's government
You should react to epic rap battle of history ( Alexander the Great vs Ivan the terrible and George Washington vs William Wallace)
The organisation's name was Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna), not Serbia.
“But maybe he... holy s$&@ is that the archduke!?”
😂😂😂😂
Europe wanted to fight. I get that this was the spark, but if it wasnt this it most likely would have been something else.
And all it took is one man.
It's young Bosnia not young Serbia, although I think the assassins were from Serbia its capital Belgrade but I'm not sure.
Sabaton - Saboteurs.
wait im confused, didnt the serbs lose the battle of kosovo? the one in 1389. so how it really a point to rally on?
What if Franz Ferdinand went to Sarajevo on 29th June?
Would that have prevented the start of the 1st world war in Europe? (Key word Europe) Since at the time the world was a powder Keg and the World war would have started anywhere in the Globe.
Well... Franz Ferdinand would not have been assassinated so Serbia would not have been invaded.
The fact that Gavrillo wouldnt even see the end of the war is kinda sadder than what it should be
He would not live long enough to see the consequences of his action. How the empires would fall, how Serbia would gain what he wanted, and how everything get's fucked again by another war
would be interesting to see if he would still be proud about his action see the madness, chaos and useless millions of deaths that unfolded
@@lepredator1789he regretted the war to his death, he also regretted shooting Sophie
that was murder. point!
Can't blame it all on Sarajevo assassination. The Austro-Hungarian empire had pressed Serbia for 50+ years before this event. Their biggest plan was called "Drang nach Osten" which was an idea of AH and Germany to expand towards the East. Serbia was a quickly developing country standing opposing to them. They represented Serbia at the Berlin Congress and were the reason why Serbia didn't gain all of the territory they freed. They have even forbidden the use of Cyrillic in Bosnia and promoted so many anti-serb politics in that area. Also, the Royal Family was pro-France/Russia, opposing to the previous one who was pro-AH.
Girls: My boyfriend didn’t cry during the Titanic, do men even have feelings?
Boys : 13:10
...sooo what sandwich was he eating?
I see 299 likes and I go zoom to like and make it 300 likes.
Thank you!
Oh man, they were called Young Bosnia, not Young Serbia, and they were all from Bosnia. Not just Serbs, but Croats and Bosniaks as well.
When a Czech driver causes 100 million deaths