Extra History's World War 1 - Part 3 (The July Crisis) - Historian Reaction

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Komentáře • 187

  • @jakitron890
    @jakitron890 Před 3 lety +376

    The lead up to world war 1 sounds a lot like time travelers coming in to try to avoid war, but then the war-less world ends up worse, so another time traveller comes back to start it back up again, then rinse and repeat

    • @colinr.8058
      @colinr.8058 Před 3 lety +37

      It totally does. Especially with everything that happened on the day of the assassination. I wonder what the alternate present looked like

    • @ProjectEkerTest33
      @ProjectEkerTest33 Před 3 lety +29

      @@colinr.8058 The same war fought 50 years later... with nukes. That's the only way I can imagine it being worse then WW1 and WW2.

    • @GooGoo491
      @GooGoo491 Před 2 lety +6

      @@ProjectEkerTest33 They might not even have nukes in an alternate history due to nukes being made due to WW2.

    • @ProjectEkerTest33
      @ProjectEkerTest33 Před 2 lety +7

      @@GooGoo491 Eh I mean the science would still be worked out eventually though but it might take longer

    • @GooGoo491
      @GooGoo491 Před 2 lety +10

      ​@@ProjectEkerTest33 The science could definitely figure out nuclear power, but part of the reason science created nuclear weapons, is because certain people thought the Germans were already working on the technology at the time and the fact that WW2 had already broken out between the European countries. So in an alternate present, they might not have developed nuclear fission into nuclear weapons. That's the interesting thing about theorizing on alternate timelines, interesting things can happen.

  • @SpiritOfTheWanderer
    @SpiritOfTheWanderer Před 3 lety +298

    The saddest thing about history is how little we ever seem to learn from it.

    • @Turambar88
      @Turambar88 Před 3 lety +27

      “If men could learn from history, what lessons it might teach us! But passion and party blind our eyes, and the light which experience gives is a lantern on the stern, which shines only on the waves behind us.”

    • @MarcMagma
      @MarcMagma Před 3 lety +5

      'History teaches us loud and clear. If only we would listen.'

    • @bellascythe9594
      @bellascythe9594 Před 3 lety +1

      I mean after ww2, 100 millions people decrease to 1 million. I don't know what do you mean by little?

    • @NatalieJ22
      @NatalieJ22 Před 3 lety +6

      @@bellascythe9594 well there was still a Second World War so... not to mention the Cold War that came after it and all of the proxy wars that entailed and so on and so forth.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 Před 3 lety +1

      @@NatalieJ22 While people universally agree that WW1 should've been avoided and was a pointless loss of life, very few would argue that WW2 or the Cold War should've been avoided. In fact, "learning from history" can have multiple meanings, like for example; "sometimes a just war is better than an unjust peace".

  • @bertmustin
    @bertmustin Před 3 lety +118

    Crisis iinJuly could make a great Netflix series.

  • @lolikumadesbear1999
    @lolikumadesbear1999 Před 3 lety +142

    It's creepy how small, seemingly insignificant decisions changed the course of the history of mankind

    • @MinecraftMasterNo1
      @MinecraftMasterNo1 Před 3 lety +22

      Some of them weren't even decisions, that Russian dude straight up just died in the middle of negotiations

    • @raychangalarza179
      @raychangalarza179 Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah, specially the one from part 2, so manu coincidences and one of them is one of the most seemingly insignificant decisions of going to take a snack after a failed assassination that lead to Franz Ferdinand dying

    • @NamelessvonIrgendwo
      @NamelessvonIrgendwo Před 2 lety

      yeah, and we will always keep making those little decisions that steer us to an unknown future. just like the diplomats during this time, we will probably not even live to see the full cause and effect domino chains caused by the little decisions that we make today.

  • @gamelandmaster3680
    @gamelandmaster3680 Před 3 lety +75

    8:38 Your 90% correct, yes Saint Petersburg is the formal government and capital of Russia at this time but Moscow still was and is still a very important city for Russia as it was the capital until the end of the Great Northern War in the late-late 18th century.

  • @phoenixshadow6633
    @phoenixshadow6633 Před 3 lety +55

    Yeah, if you watch the Lies episode to this, they do admit they screwed up on the Capital of Russia. It should have been in Petrograd/St. Petersberg.

  • @melkor3496
    @melkor3496 Před 3 lety +77

    In the next part please listen to the end music it really hits hard.

  • @mirceapintelie361
    @mirceapintelie361 Před 3 lety +41

    there is another tragic coincidence that happened that month which took France's attention from the crisis, the assasination of the french socialists leader Jean Jaures in a french cafe by an anarchist.Paris was paying more attention to his funeral then what happens in the Balkans

    • @mirceapintelie361
      @mirceapintelie361 Před 3 lety +1

      @@darthmunckI heard that he was an anarchist in a discovery channel documentary🤔

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 Před 3 lety +45

    Not gonna lie, after Danny left the quality went down. He just has an interesting way of showing, and had a snarkier sense of humor.

    • @leftymcshotty4784
      @leftymcshotty4784 Před 3 lety +11

      His cadence for telling the story was so much better than the new guy.

    • @zachm2331
      @zachm2331 Před 3 lety

      Is Danny the guy that was narrating or was this the new guy?

    • @XanathosZero
      @XanathosZero Před 3 lety +6

      @@zachm2331 Yes, Daniel Floyd narrated the Seminal Tragedy. And he is so great really. Which is why EC/EH remains memorable to me until his departure. After him, I do not really care... 😅

    • @NewGuy2534
      @NewGuy2534 Před 3 lety

      @@zachm2331 Danny was the original narrator. In this case, the one on screen.

    • @7Seraphem7
      @7Seraphem7 Před 3 lety +4

      I do like Old Dan better (Also if you like him go checkout is Playframe channel it is amazingly fun) but New Dan did at least bring Zoe in with him so, there's that.

  • @untruelie2640
    @untruelie2640 Před 3 lety +9

    Regarding mobilization: Well, it sort of WAS unthinkable to stop a general mobilization. Mobilization plans were huge logistical and organizational endevours. The general staffs had to work for YEARS in advance to get everything right. The german plan in particular was extremely detailed and depended on a precise timetable. It required the troop trains to cross the Rhine bridge at Cologne every five minutes (!). Once put into effect, it couldn't be abandoned or otherwise Germany's military would've been out of action for weeks. At least this was the opinion of Moltke and the general staff.

  • @Ben-fl6rf
    @Ben-fl6rf Před 3 lety +7

    That Annex misunderstanding I feel like sums up every dating relationship misunderstanding.

    • @philip8498
      @philip8498 Před 3 lety +7

      ah yes, the famous argument every couple has about how much of serbia they want to annex...

    • @ClawedAsh
      @ClawedAsh Před 2 lety +2

      @@philip8498 I mean, I definitely remember that part of my relationship, by far the most rocky part yet

  • @felipeviana2351
    @felipeviana2351 Před 3 lety +20

    Wonderful content! Schools (at least here in Brazil) don't teach a lot about WWI, as opposed to how much they teach about WWII (which is still not enough), so we basically hear that some dude got assassinated and the whole world goes crazy.

    • @NatalieJ22
      @NatalieJ22 Před 3 lety +5

      It’s similar in the US, all I really remember learning in high school was the assassination story and complicated alliances led to WWII. It wasn’t until I got into college and decided to study world history further that I truly started to understand WWI and WWII. It’s crazy how little history is actually taught in schools.

  • @TheMasonK
    @TheMasonK Před 3 lety +48

    Love Extra so much! So many interesting topics they talk about!

  • @gamelandmaster3680
    @gamelandmaster3680 Před 3 lety +9

    The things that had to happen for the final outcome makes you think that outer forces were at play, no joke.

  • @XaviRonaldo0
    @XaviRonaldo0 Před 3 lety +15

    So, WW1 was the avoidable war and WW2 was the war that was inevitable once WW1 happened. More specifically the treaty of Versailles made WW2 inevitable.

    • @dragonstouch1042
      @dragonstouch1042 Před 2 lety +1

      @regi grenski thing is, I don’t think there was anyway to avoid WW1 by then. Franz Ferdinand’s assassination was less a catalyst and more the straw that broke the camel’s back. Something would have happened eventually, and honestly, it was probably for the best that the war didn’t happen later when more powerful weapons (hello nukes) were available

    • @bosaciousbagginocious7475
      @bosaciousbagginocious7475 Před rokem

      @@dragonstouch1042 I may have to disagree on this. The invention nukes could surely come later than it was introduced in our history because war didn’t happen. The unfortunate thing about nukes is that its precursor, the technology behind it could’ve been an equivalent to a groundbreaking discovery for humanity rather than a tool for war. Nuclear technology was first exploited for its purpose on warfare, not human welfare. Sure it would eventually come to that inevitability of assimilating it to a weapon of war but we would be much better enlightened and staunchly opposed to the idea of it and have our own nuclear ban treaty that prevents the existence of nuclear weapons rather than dismantling it with little effort.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Před 5 měsíci

      @@dragonstouch1042 it wasn't avoidable, but things could have been different if it didn't happen. it would have happened eventually sure, but it would have been much later and possibly different circumstances would have followed.

  • @melkor3496
    @melkor3496 Před 3 lety +40

    Please react to extra credits Otto von Bismarck series.

  • @Rob_1218
    @Rob_1218 Před 3 lety +10

    I've been loving your contributions to these history videos. Keep it up.

  • @hunterwilebski352
    @hunterwilebski352 Před 3 lety +7

    We need a podcast from this guy!

  • @MarcMagma
    @MarcMagma Před 3 lety +6

    Extra History did and still does many great series.
    For something a bit closer to this series, I'd suggest their series on Bismarck or the WW1 Christmas Truce.
    For something a bit less close to modern times, I'd suggest their series on Justinian the Great, Suleiman the Magnificent, the Sengoku Jidai or the First Crusade.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 Před 3 lety +2

    If the July Crisis had been solved peacefully, they would have found another reason for war in September.

  • @zacharyclark3693
    @zacharyclark3693 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for your commentary and reaction. I have seen these videos from extra credits before, but it's interesting to hear your commentary.

  • @1Nathansnell
    @1Nathansnell Před 3 lety +19

    I still believe Germany came to there defense, as agreed, just like Russia. Serbia and Austria-Hungary personally are responsible for creating unfortunate war and I’m very disappointed nobody at those peace talks brought that up a devastating war and pretty much are responsible for how the world is today.

    • @mezmerizer9422
      @mezmerizer9422 Před 3 lety

      And we'll do it again.

    • @mr.nobody2191
      @mr.nobody2191 Před 3 lety +1

      To be fair there wasn't much left of Austria hungry left to blame ww1 on

    • @reecedignan8365
      @reecedignan8365 Před 3 lety +6

      There are 3 big reasons Germany took the fall for WW1:
      1. Of all the central powers, it was the only true survivor by the end. Austria was gone, Italy was with the allies, the Ottomans were gone and with them gone Germany was the only one left to take the hit. Sadly they were used as an example to try and deter this type of war again.
      2. Germany was the one to fight in almost every conflict. Be it on the eastern front or the western front most allied forced engaged with the Germans and not the Austrians or ottomans. As such much of the central powers war presence was noted to be German, as such many saw it as more Germany fighting the war than its allies.
      3. This also comes to how Germany was the main opposition of most of the major powers and its used of destructive weapons. Be it the overly large calibre guns they made, the fact they were the first to use gas, their note of warcrimes committed in Belgium - note this also had them saw as the main principally of war as instead of fighting waring countries they also attacked many neutral countries and brought many of them into war - the use of Subs on transport ships. These things would go along way in making much of the people who suffered at the hands of them blame Germany directly for their use and invention - even if they also used them afterwards - as such it was saw as Germany’s inhuman stance towards life that also saw them sanctioned over the other states

    • @n.n.5293
      @n.n.5293 Před 3 lety +1

      @@reecedignan8365 technically the french used gas first. But they used a lighter variant with less concentration of poison. The germans used the same kind of gas, but seeing as the french gas was useless, they upped the concentration of poison. They overdid it.

    • @comusrules1244
      @comusrules1244 Před 3 lety

      Agree. Like they said in the first two parts, they were anxious to go to war and now they had a convenient excuse to do so.

  • @matthewmayton1845
    @matthewmayton1845 Před 3 lety +3

    I know I am pretty late to this reaction, but I wanted to point to a few things pertaining to the July Crisis.
    1) Listening to Mark Cornwall, an historian at the University of Southampton, Austria-Hungary felt they had to go after Serbia alone. During the Balkan Wars of 1912 and 1913, Austria-Hungry looked to the other European powers to hopefully put a stop to the wars and reduce Serbia's influence in the region (they wanted Serbia to be a satellite state). Not one, not even Germany, took Austria-Hungary's side. So when Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, Austria-Hungary decided they had to go at it alone. Moreover, they had to pretty much forced Germany to side with them, suggesting that Austria-Hungary would break their alliance if Germany did not offer support.
    2) This I got from a documentary series about the First World War, based from the work of Hew Strachan. The ultimatum Austria-Hungary sent was always meant to be rejected. They added stipulations which were to be so outrageous that Serbia would ultimately reject. In fact, the only stipulation that Serbia did not immediately accept was that Austria-Hungary was to participate in its judicial system. Serbia wanted it to be submitted to a tribunal in Hauge, which Austria-Hungary believed was not good enough. Strachen suggested that even if Serbia accepted all of the demands, Austria would still have gone to war.
    3) Part of the issue with the July Crisis is that the diplomats were not in charge, the military was. People like Conrad von Hötzendorf (chief of the general staff of Austria-Hungary) wanted a war. In about a two year period, Conrad von Hötzendorf wanted to go to war against Serbia twenty-six times with Franz Ferdinand being one of the only people speaking out against it. Germany was not much better since they felt a war with Russia was necessary. I cannot remember who stated it, but it was believed a war with Russia in 1914 was better than a war in 1917. Germany believed Russia would defeat Germany in just a couple of years. Too many powers wanted a general war. They believed it would be similar to short wars such as the Franco-Prussian War instead of looking at longer wars such as the American Civil War.
    4) Serbia had to be careful with how they navigate the July Crisis. Just ten years ago, the Serbian king and queen were brutally murdered in their home. A number of the conspirators involved with their murders were high ranking members of the government and military. Many of those people were involved in Franz Ferdinand's assassination. It was also an election year in Serbia. Nationalism was high in Serbia and the last thing you want to state is, "Hey, we are bowing down to all of the demands from Austria. Including them being part of our government." Chances were, those officials would not be elected and/or assassinated.
    5) This was something which did not come out until after the war. Kaiser Wilhelm II, when he learned about Serbia's response to Austria-Hungary's ultimatum, he believed it was a great morale victory for Austria-Hungary and saw no reason for war. Austria-Hungary declared war about an hour after Wilhelm II made those comments.
    Edit: I wanted to add one other point.
    6) Most people around the world did not really care Franz Ferdinand was assassinated. Most felt bad about it, but it was just another political death in the Balkans. In fact, his state funeral in Austria-Hungary was only thirty minutes long. He was not a likable person, even in Austria. I believe he killed over 250,000 animals (I heard he killed hundreds of animals of a hunt with a machine gun). He believed Serbs were sub-human, Hungary needed to submit to Austria's rule, etc. But, he also believed that to keep the empire alive was to create a constitutional monarchy and bring Serbs as an equal partner.

  • @spirosgreek1171
    @spirosgreek1171 Před 3 lety +5

    If you are interested on politics of nations during the war i suggest you look up the Greek National Schism. Its the reason we were among the last to join ww1 (officially we joined at 1917). And the reason was we were near a state of civil war over joining WW1 or not. In short the Prime Minister (Eleftherios Venizelos, leader of the Liberal Party. A big political personality in Greece) was in favor of Greece joining the war at the side of the Allies in order to honour a defence pact agreement with Serbia we had signed and seeing it as an opportunity to take the claims Greece had on Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire. On the other side was the King Constantine I, who was a big supporter of the German Empire, but favoured neutrality cause he knew the Greek people would never agree to fight alongside the Ottoman Empire.

  • @comusrules1244
    @comusrules1244 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m learning so much more watching this than several TV documentaries. 🤨🤷🏻‍♀️ 🧐

  • @felixjohnson2734
    @felixjohnson2734 Před 3 lety +10

    such a tragedy just because somebody made a wrong choice and chaning history forever

  • @robertbaird9267
    @robertbaird9267 Před 3 lety +2

    This makes you think to what tiny details happening right now can be history changing in the future. Maybe nothing, maybe something. We wont know until it happens. I hope we've learned enough to never let this happen again, but I like history too much to believe that without a doubt.

    • @VloggingThroughHistory
      @VloggingThroughHistory  Před 3 lety +1

      Absolutely something to think about

    • @bradbutcher8762
      @bradbutcher8762 Před rokem

      Here in March 2023 things are looking more than likely to your point. Maybe not tomorrow but 5 or 10 years shit may very well hit the fan

  • @davemartin4183
    @davemartin4183 Před 3 lety +1

    Informative series so far and definitely I'm enjoying your commentary is awesome. Thanks for all you do to keep history important

  • @NatalieJ22
    @NatalieJ22 Před 3 lety +11

    As someone with a Hungarian background, it’s always so sad to see all the ways in which Hungary has suffered as a result of the Austro-Hungarian empire. There was even a revolution in Hungary in 1848, now commemorated by a national holiday in Hungary, in an attempt for independence and then when they are dragged into war by the Austrian in WWI, it costs Hungary 2/3rds of its land leading them to be bitter and join the losing side in WWII in an attempt to get it back with all the atrocities that went along with being on that side as well. It’s just so sad to see how one thing snowballed into another and how many of these scars are still fresh to this day in countries like Hungary. There’s still a large group of Hungarian today that are forever bitter about the treaty of Trianon and want to see Hungarians lands restored, especially Transylvania.

  • @Catman2123
    @Catman2123 Před 3 lety +1

    Been so long since I watched this that I forgot WWI could have been avoided with some max strength aspirin.

  • @Turalcar
    @Turalcar Před 3 lety +1

    5:27 Austro-Hungarian empire is exactly like a definition of an empire.
    It's the HRE that was an empire mostly just in the name

  • @tesnacloud
    @tesnacloud Před rokem +1

    I think people overestimate how important these small points are. After all, the Morocco crisis, either Balkan war, and a few other flashpoints could all have ignited the spark, and there would be further flashpoints.
    The problem is more fundamental. These nations were ready for war, and actively considering it. Europe was too pent up, and all that nationalistic fervor and anger was seeking release.
    And no one was trying to actually release it safely. How could they? They didn’t have the perspective of a world war to know what happens when countries armed with such weapons go to war on a massive scale.

  • @baka1fred642
    @baka1fred642 Před 3 lety +1

    all the thing that could stop WW1 form happeding make it seem like it was fated to happend

  • @akiva2112
    @akiva2112 Před 3 lety +3

    Listen to the music through the end after the next one. Please.

  • @malachiphoniex8501
    @malachiphoniex8501 Před 3 lety +15

    Sadly the Archduke is just another body in the long line of short-lived moderates cut down before their time. Look at Julius Caesar, Lincoln, Gandhi, and Yitzhak Rabin, voices of reason and moderation.

    • @ericlahey7051
      @ericlahey7051 Před 3 lety +12

      I get your point but seeing Gandhi and Julius Caesar compared is rather amusing

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ericlahey7051 yeah..... I see what you mean. Though their reformist ideas and the bloodbaths that followed their deaths are similar.

    • @mirceapintelie361
      @mirceapintelie361 Před 3 lety +1

      Caesar asked for it desperately.also considering the genocide he commited in the war he was anything but a moderate

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mirceapintelie361 I'm going to go full John Green on you and say this: when us entitled people of the 21st century look back at history we tend to view it in the light of our own morale superiority. Its easy for us to see any person that's not perfect in our eyes as brutes and evil or at least backwards. This lends into theory that you as a human is the pinnacle of our race but this and in most things is wrong. Yes Caesar was brutal to enemies and suspects alike but so was everyone else in that time; the people he genocided would have quite happily genocided the Romans. His reforms weren't new and seen as necessary, and he wasn't even the first despot of the republic!

    • @mirceapintelie361
      @mirceapintelie361 Před 3 lety +2

      @@malachiphoniex8501 Caesar was condemned in its own time by the romans themselves on how he exterminated 2 tribes who had nothing to do with his war.he was many thing,including looting the treasury when he was consul, but a moderate was not.
      He is seen positively now because of Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor

  • @Londronable
    @Londronable Před 3 lety

    Disasters are never because of a single moment but because of a chain of failures.

  • @drewpamon
    @drewpamon Před 3 lety +2

    You need to do Bismarck

  • @Awells89
    @Awells89 Před 2 měsíci

    Reading a book about the July Crisis and one bit the video doesn’t mention the Kaiser was close freinds with Franz Ferdinand and Sophie and he had just visited them weeks before so he was devastated by the news of the assassination, but couldn’t go to the funeral at the last minute due to a bad back and other medical issues he was dealing with. Also one of the Austrian diplomats was hoping to catch a moment with the Kaiser at the funeral to see if he can get him on a path to supporting a diplomatic solution to the crisis and preventing war and obviously that didn’t happen just a tragedy all around.

  • @alexandersturnn4530
    @alexandersturnn4530 Před 3 lety +18

    It really almost seems like all of this was planned by some diabolical Mastermind behind the Scenes, seeing how everything went so perfectly wrong at every turn.

    • @VloggingThroughHistory
      @VloggingThroughHistory  Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah it really does feel that way.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Před 3 lety +6

      X-file music intensifies.

    • @thanotosomega
      @thanotosomega Před 3 lety +1

      Reality is written by a hack who depends on all the characters doing random crap and coincidences to advance the plot,

    • @jasonkobos3850
      @jasonkobos3850 Před 3 lety +1

      If any of the rare circumstances do not happen, then the war doesn't happen, and we are not here to talk about it.

    • @LeSethX
      @LeSethX Před 3 lety

      Well, World War 1 would have happened eventually, unless a lot of military deescalation happened. This had been building for decades. Even knowing the dozen or so times the Cold War almost became nuclear, it was still a hot war several times during and after the fall of the Soviet Union.

  • @tbrizhmdli9546
    @tbrizhmdli9546 Před 3 lety

    i think, i am getting obsessed with your analysis.

  • @padascos
    @padascos Před 3 lety +7

    I just got to get this in here while im Watching this Video, I wanted to wait with it to the last one but I dont wanna forget so here it goes.
    Quite a Jump into the mids of the War the Serbians have shown to be far more Dangerous than the Austro Hungarians thought and were putting up quite a fight to prevent a take over, after some months the German Empire decided to Send Troops to the front to end that hassle and open up a supply line to their Ottoman Ally, but even this has proven to be quite the hassle as the Serbian Troops fought on, one of these conflicts Honoured to this day by a Monument Build in Topčider by the Germans under the orders of August von Mackensen doing the War for the Defenders of Belgrade, the Stone that stands to this Day reads both in Serbian and German : ,, Serbian Heroes rest here " . This is one of the few times in recorded History a Victor honoured the defeated in such a matter.
    Just felt like sharing that story here. It simply warmed my heart when i found out that this is a real thing.

  • @lastsilhouette85
    @lastsilhouette85 Před 3 lety +1

    Watching this makes me believe all the more in the infinite multiverse many world's interpretation of quantum mechanics. What are the Fricken' odds??

  • @GusCraft460
    @GusCraft460 Před 3 lety +5

    This feels like a series of time travelers went back in time to stop the world wars, only to have their work undone by other time travelers.

  • @1anfinity08
    @1anfinity08 Před 3 lety +3

    Man all of the events leading up to WW1 seem BS to me. I'm even questioning my own existence right now. Is everything around me even real LMAO

  • @JKingSniper
    @JKingSniper Před 5 měsíci

    Are you kidding me!? A heart attack right then?!!

  • @GreatStarOcean117
    @GreatStarOcean117 Před 3 lety +4

    The more I watch your videos about not only WW1 but WW2 as well, it only gets more tragic and unnecessary. All those deaths and suffering for a few mistakes and miscommunication.

  • @ayiza8511
    @ayiza8511 Před rokem

    wha I had no idea of all these details, I did not quite knew how much chances the world had to stoop ww1

  • @ChristopherWheat-ig7fl
    @ChristopherWheat-ig7fl Před 8 měsíci

    I don't know if wars could been avoided if world war 1 had never happened. I would respectfully submit that we after all in end. We love to get into wars for all kinds of reasons, from the mundane (hey you get off my lawn), to the farcical (your soccer team cheated). Avoided, no. Different absolutely. Merry Christmas

  • @7Seraphem7
    @7Seraphem7 Před 3 lety +1

    So much hinged on so much going wrong in exactly the right way.......

  • @Ugglehjelm
    @Ugglehjelm Před 3 lety +1

    If there is a God, it seem like he really wanted this war...

  • @mammamiia08
    @mammamiia08 Před 3 lety

    I had to laugh when they said heart attack, it's ridiculous how close to peace it was!

  • @raychangalarza179
    @raychangalarza179 Před 2 lety +2

    Hinestly the comment of part 2 about how if this was fiction it would be criticized for conviniences the dead of the Russian ambassador is wayyyyyy too convinient and over that after all the conviniences on Franz Ferdinand's assassiantion were already too convinient, the author is just making stuff up to have a high stakes conflict

  • @ryanackley3109
    @ryanackley3109 Před rokem

    I’m kind of curious. There was a person who told the czar mobilize the military to helping the Serbians. By invoking his self esteem and pride to prove that he wasn’t weak. I wonder if that person immediately regretted that statement and what happened to him? If it even happened at all?

  • @ronstoppable5198
    @ronstoppable5198 Před 3 lety +1

    Another point was that at this point there already was two wars in the Balkans, so there was possibly a good chance this could have been contained into the Third Balkan War instead of the Great War.
    5:11. It is a bit speculation on my part but I think, and I have read others, that Franz Ferdinand was targeted because he was the "moderate". He had plans to create the United States of Greater Austria creating "a number of ethnically and linguistically dominated semi-autonomous "states" which would all be part of a larger federation renamed the United States of Greater Austria." From what I read the Serbian nationalists hated this as they wanted a independent Slavic state and this plan would have probably relieved a some of the ethnic tension in the A-H. I wonder what you all think.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Greater_Austria
    8:22. That should be exhibit A why militaries should stay out of affairs of state.

    • @ClawedAsh
      @ClawedAsh Před 2 lety

      About your point on the USGA and Serbian nationalists, generally speaking, most Serbian Nationalists would better be described as "Yugoslav nationalists", even Princip, they believed in a united South Slavic nation, and in many ways saw Serbia as the Prussia or Piedmont of south Slavic unification (As Prussia spearheaded German Unification, and Piedmont spearheaded Italian unification)

  • @XanathosZero
    @XanathosZero Před 3 lety +1

    I wonder... Would it be possible to have a reaction to the Lies episode? Or at least a summary of it? I don't know. It's crazy... But it could be good.

  • @grom6791
    @grom6791 Před 2 lety

    The thing is, after studying and learing about WW1 and all these coincidences .. it seems like it had to happen.

  • @liambenn1214
    @liambenn1214 Před 3 lety

    the worst part is that comparing this to the people who argue that WW2 could have been avoided, everyone involved could have stayed the same as they were, whereas WW2 would need people like hitler to not be hitler. I wouldnt be surprised if this was deemed the most preventable conflict in all of human history.

  • @rolkflameraven1483
    @rolkflameraven1483 Před 3 lety

    Well, if I ever needed proof of fixed points in time, good lord.

  • @oldnjoyer
    @oldnjoyer Před 3 lety +1

    Exactly 10,000 views when i watch this!

  • @Design-Challenge-Pod
    @Design-Challenge-Pod Před 3 lety

    Like you said if one of those actions was done differently, everything else goes differently. Likely what happens is that innovation probably stays the same, but today there would still be more colonial empires, and there would likely be more joy in the world through such a long peace time.

  • @vaclavblazek
    @vaclavblazek Před 3 lety +1

    I've just noticed one thing in English: why is Wilhelm II called Kaiser but Franz Joseph I Emperor?

    • @vaclavblazek
      @vaclavblazek Před 3 lety +1

      @@darthmunck I was asking about the dichotomy in English. Why they use German title for one single person.
      Habsburgs did not use the title Emperor because it's an English word. They used Latin Imperator in formal documents.
      But Franz Joseph I was called Kaiser von Österreich in German, rakouský císař in Czech, austrijski car in Croatian, osztrák császár in Hungarian and Imperatore d'Austria in Italian. Even his proper name was localized, for example in the famous manifesto "To my peoples" (which did not state his title at all).

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 Před 3 lety +3

    my my favorite part of history is from industrial revolution to 1970

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords Před 3 lety

    I guess satan kept rolling sixes

  • @jeffersonott4357
    @jeffersonott4357 Před 2 lety

    I guess it woulda been great if Otto V. B. Had been involved. Best diplomat ever? 10 more years in charge…

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaither Před 3 lety +1

    There is a 4th episode and I cannot find any evidence of you watching and reacting to it. Was it lost? Forgotten? Will you finish this soon?

  • @Andrew-ep4kw
    @Andrew-ep4kw Před 3 lety

    The Cold War was similar to the dynamic in 1914, where a regional conflict could trigger a calamitic war. The difference was, the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki showed first hand the cost of such a war, which helped prevent any such conflict from happening. It's too bad no such lesson was taught to the European leaders by 1914.

  • @Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo
    @Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo Před 2 lety

    "Just one bad day."

  • @stUwUpified
    @stUwUpified Před rokem

    2:25 If I recall correctly, Austria-Hungary's first couple of attacks against Serbia went horribly wrong, so maybe they did need help against Serbia after all. Regardless, yes, the main worry was probably Russia.

  • @rogerlewis1361
    @rogerlewis1361 Před 2 lety

    The biggest word in the dictionary……..if.

  • @marthdaeglin
    @marthdaeglin Před 3 lety

    I feel like if I were the director of Russia's foreign affairs and the ambassador from Germany told me that an ambassador from Austria-Hungary told him that they had no intention of claiming any Serbian land, I'd have a hard time relying on that promise. Do you think Austria meant to stick to that promise?

  • @baruteku
    @baruteku Před 3 lety

    When it comes to unreasonable demands I would put "baltic corridor" on the brink of WW2. That was a demand from Germany that reborn Polish state could not accept. And I am pretty sure Germans knew that.

  • @dominikpeka8311
    @dominikpeka8311 Před 3 lety +1

    will you watch extra historys's ww2 defend of poland after you watch ww1?

  • @drewpamon
    @drewpamon Před 3 lety

    Yes, Moscow didn't become the capital until 1918 in the soviet era.

  • @haiqaldaniel8021
    @haiqaldaniel8021 Před 3 lety +2

    Cool vid :D

  • @kaytow6645
    @kaytow6645 Před 3 lety +3

    If you can please listen to the song at the end of the next video

  • @phantomtitan9792
    @phantomtitan9792 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video

  • @RoyFizzle
    @RoyFizzle Před 3 lety

    Lmao that’s not my neck

  • @Latin83382
    @Latin83382 Před 3 lety

    They needed tech back then it would've changed history

  • @MattMajcan
    @MattMajcan Před 3 lety

    ehh i dont really get it though, if austria-hungary was not planning to annex serbia then what was their goal in going to war in the first place?

    • @TurboTroller
      @TurboTroller Před 3 lety

      If you look at the demands they sent, it seems like they wanted a sort of puppet state, which who knows what that would've escalated too

  • @k1productions87
    @k1productions87 Před 3 lety

    You do kinda jump ahead a bit, mentioning things they hadn't had a chance to get to yet, lol.

  • @loganpaschedag8829
    @loganpaschedag8829 Před 3 lety

    My question is! Why did Germany get the main blame but not Austria-Hungary!? Because Germany wasn’t the one who declared war on Serbia! It was Austria-Hungary!

  • @stefanvukovic1436
    @stefanvukovic1436 Před 3 lety

    2:00 Serbian government actually accepted all of them except one demand no.6

  • @pecanick8140
    @pecanick8140 Před 2 lety

    1:14 is wrong it is red, white, blue not blue, red, white.

  • @bryce2124
    @bryce2124 Před 2 lety

    why did Russia not want Austria hungry to annex serbia?

    • @mikkor.860
      @mikkor.860 Před rokem

      Because serbia is russia’s ally

  • @raptorblarg2284
    @raptorblarg2284 Před 3 lety +1

    No matter if you believe or not, it definitely seems like there is a supreme being guiding everything.

    • @XaviRonaldo0
      @XaviRonaldo0 Před 3 lety

      It seems that way. The seemingly coincidences here are stranger than fiction. It's amazing that so many coincidences can happen at once.
      The thing is as an atheist I believe there has to be some sort of fate. I experience deja vu quite often. I can't see how deja vu is possible without fate. However, how is fate possible without something controlling it. It boggles the mind.

    • @ChristophBrinkmann
      @ChristophBrinkmann Před 3 měsíci

      No. No it doesn't. Just humans calling the shots

  • @JABRIEL251
    @JABRIEL251 Před 3 lety

    It really is funny (not haha funny) just how much had to go wrong for this war to happen. Every single time when war seemed to be averted a Diabolus ex Machina happen. It's like the universe would not let this conflict go.

  • @TheRockprincess1697
    @TheRockprincess1697 Před 3 lety

    Hindsight when stakes are this big is really painful. These what ifs suck balls

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 Před 11 měsíci

    WW1 is just the following:
    not listening to ur wisers (see Von Bismarck)
    Friendly Fire (albeit intentional)
    Pure bad luck
    A series of misunderstandings
    Ends in the collapse of the Russian, German, and Austro-Hungarian empires
    A genocide (Armenia)
    A whole load of xenophobia which ends in the UK monarch changing their last name
    A country way outside of this situation that is essentially forced (whether you believe Wilson tried hard enough is another question) into a war that had nothing to do with them
    And a new socioeconomic system with good intentions, that ends the century with ppl either dead, traumatised, or outright hating principles of said system with its guts (communism) that leaks into utter disdain for its better alternative (socialism), which leads to a next century of terrorism, contempt, and financial and political strife for most of the world.

  • @isaacibanezlopez9101
    @isaacibanezlopez9101 Před 3 lety

    You can also say the British empire fell because of this

    • @XaviRonaldo0
      @XaviRonaldo0 Před 3 lety

      How so? Wasn't Britain a full constitutional monarchy by this point with the royals pretty much being only a figurehead?

    • @ClawedAsh
      @ClawedAsh Před 2 lety

      @@XaviRonaldo0 Well mainly because WW1 leads to WW2, and the post-WW2 world lead to Indian Independence, Canada fully becoming an independent nation, the decolonization of Africa. While the British Monarchy never fell or lost any power, the Empire became a thing of the past

  • @sabouter
    @sabouter Před 3 lety +1

    If you will do another music war reaction try " 82nd all the way " . Sabaton did cover for it but "Amaranth " got it better...

  • @marcuswright7409
    @marcuswright7409 Před 3 lety

    if the austrians didn’t want to annex serbia, then what were their intentions?

    • @Jose.AFT.Saddul
      @Jose.AFT.Saddul Před 3 lety +1

      IDK maybe force Serbia to pay reparations.

    • @ClawedAsh
      @ClawedAsh Před 2 lety

      The general attitude of the Austrian Chief of Army believed that defeating Serbia in a decisive war would lead to the minorities in the Empire quelling down as Austria projects it's power. Also even if they didn't annex Serbia, it could still be forced into the Austrian sphere of influence

  • @muslim2k
    @muslim2k Před 10 měsíci

    The Serbian government agreed to 9 of the demands made by the Austro-Hungarian empire. They rejected 1 demand that was about letting Austro-Hungarian delegations sit through the Serbian judicial proceedings regarding the assasination.
    Demand: Initiate a judicial inquiry
    against those participating in
    the conspiracy of June 28
    who are on Serbian territory;
    delegated institutions from
    the Royal Imperial Government will participate in these
    proceedings.
    Response: The Serbian Government considers it its duty to open an investigation against all those persons who may have been involved in the
    conspiracy of June 28 and who are on its territory. As for the
    Austro-Hungarian authorities participation in this investigation, the
    Serbian Government cannot accept it, because it would violate the
    Constitution and the law on criminal procedure. Yet in some cases
    papers on the results of the investigation might be given to AustroHungarian officials.

  • @nabbar
    @nabbar Před 3 lety

    Repeatedly emphasizing what would presumably have been avoided is a misleading half-truth because we have no way of knowing what wars would have taken place if World War I had been avoided, but did not take place because of changes brought about by World War I.

  • @yubrajamrajh2814
    @yubrajamrajh2814 Před 3 lety

    Hello

  • @ytubestolemyhandle
    @ytubestolemyhandle Před 3 lety

    Well, thanks to that war, Slovakia was broken from damn near thousand years of slavery under Hungary... so we now slave in everything but name under EU who uses us for cheap labour while our prices are virtually the same as in the rest of EU (or, well, comparatively more expensive than all our neighbors so everyone living near borders rather shop abroad), while our salaries are several times lower. Heck, average salary in the west of EU is almost SIX TIMES HIGHER (!), while prices are the same (or actually lower.. seeing german Lidl prices are about 10-15% cheaper than in here). Thanks to that, anyone with means fled to the west, leaving us with just hordes of retired people, whose pensions are putting heavy strain on economy (since the young people mostly fled). My generation already has no hope of living long enough to retire - people are already being overworked to death, dying in their 40s and 50s... and retirement age at this point is almost 70.
    Once a peasant country, always a peasant country.