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I like that Isaiah mentioned Mark Price.. so right about him, if he had stayed healthy he would've had a phenomenal career.
Absolutely agreed. As a Detroit fan of that time, Mark Price was one of those guys that you just had to respect his game. Had his health held up, he’d be a top 10, possible a top 5 PG of all-time. A phenomenal player.
Exactly. He was so ahead of his time. That Cavs team were definitely one of the pioneers of the high pick and roll with Price and Daugherty since Price was such a great shooter.
I hate when young kids say Mark Price was a shit player
A few guys like that who'd be all time greats without injuries. Penny Hardaway too
Bird and Jordan on the floor - Your scoring is 90% covered ... then fill in how you'd like. Jabar, Akeem, Moses, Dominique, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Magic, McHale, Dr. J, ....
well isiah and jordan..then fill in how you'd like..O'neal, Robinson, Rodman and Pippen or have them all..imagine scoring with this team..bird would score 50 or 60 or 70 against it but how about the rest of the team?
Bird would be scoring less and averaging 15 apg. Larry was all about the TEAM. Make it 15 ppg, 15 rebs per game and probably 15 apg.
What makes it good is that they're all mentally tough. Games are physical. The golden age of trashtalking. The games became personal.
Bird would have 35 assists. He doesn't care about personal scoring. As long as the team wins...
@Michael E in the 80s that was his name Einstein.
the 80's so good - Olajuwan, Dominique, Drexler, Ewing, Bernard King, Alex English, not even mentioned
Ewing and olajuwon mre 90s
@@andreomorais2615 Olajuwon was drafted in 84 and dominated the 80's even going to the finals by spanking the Lakers in 86,he's more 80's than 90's,. Yes he was awesome until the mid 90's but by 97 he was done, what was it 97 or 98 he went to toronto before retiring?
@@blachloch1 Olajuwon won two championships in the 90s, and it was 2001 he went to Toronto
Name your top 5 with those players you named
Moses Malone?
The 80's were pure basketball. No other era compares to the 80's. Phenomenal teams and players.
What?!! How is it not pure basketball now? Whatever you respond with and don’t is complete biased hypocritical bullshit. The talent in this day and age is on another level. Time goes by games and players progress for the better same with technology. You are living in the past be progressive.
@@gregoryone90 What im sayin they caught up in the past, i see highschoolers doin shit people back then did
@@gregoryone90 It's the rule changes. Zone defenses, Soft fouling, relaxed traveling rules have all changed the game. The 80s were primarily focused on the low post game, which is not the focus today. People didn't shoot the 3 like they do today. I think that is what the OP is trying to describe by saying "pure basketball." Also, there are many players - especially shooters - who would benefit by all of the rule changes today. A guy like Bird would flourish in today's game - he'd get the benefit of better training and medicine and he could shoot outside all day. He'd also get the benefit of the zone defense rule as he could more easily leave his man to swarm and jump in passing lanes - one of his specialties. It would better hide the fact that he was an average man-to-man defender.
Evolution is necessary
@@gregoryone90 no, you are hypocritical. The talent is nowhere close. You literally have historically pathetic defenders "winning" MVP. They are much more athletic, but nowhere near as talented. Hell, just a year ago jokim Noah was still on an NBA roster. And technology? Why are there so many more injuries? You are sadly mistaking athleticism for talent.
Didn't Jordan avg 35 points a game and end up being defensive player of the year one season in the 80's? That sounds mildly dominant. Not his team, but he himself was dominant
Yea and no ships
@@markflood9755 dominant players... not teams.
@@bmaida2778 sorry big piston fan
@@markflood9755 not a problem. They were really good. Very underrated group
@@markflood9755 Loved that u beat his ass 3 straight years and made him cry and blame his teammates. I ain't a Piston fan...except for a few players. Salley, Dumars and a few others. But Zeke is right, Jordan was not their test. I rolled with 6ers
Thanks for 3 ass whipping u gave me. Salute!
-Magic - I.Thomas
-Jordan - A.Dantley (to me he is a SG)
-Bird - Nique
-Barkley - K.Mchale
-Moses - Kareem
This video should be called 1 legend picks his all time starting 5.
Don't sleep on Reggie...
I think the point guard shooting guard and small forward positions are pretty much a lock. Magic, Jordan, bird. Really the argument is the best power forward and best center of the 80s.
I wouldn't say magic is a lock unless you can be sure to hide him on defense.
Jordan was out in the first round because he had zero help, My god imagine, if jordan had another all star in the 80s, it would be a wrap.
Funny neither did dream in 94 and he won a ring
@@sschevmale24 different times, he wasn't playing against a prime celtics, lakers in 94. Also if jordan was around he wins nothing that year.
@@andylarkin5779 uhhhh he beat lakers in wcf and played celts in finals. Thats pretty huge man. Sampson was starting to have knee problems by than
@@sschevmale24 bro what are you talking about. I'm saying you cant compare the competition jordan had to play against in the 80s to hakeem in 94/95. It's not even close.
The 80's was amazing🤩🤩🤩
Magic, Bird, Barkley, Jordan, Hakeem
That is my 5 too.
Shaq looked and sounded goofy as hell at 3:59
Not enough love for Olajuwon. But all obviously good, solid choices.
pg. Magic/Isiah, sg. MJ/Moncrief , sf. BIRD/Dr.J , pf. McHALE/Barkley , c. Moses/Kareem
Magic, MJ, Bird, Kareem, Moses 👊
PG:Magic Thomas
SG:Jordan Moncrief
SF:Bird Dr.J
PF:McHale Barkley
C:Kareem Moses
Akeem, Dominique, Stockton, Malone ... plenty could have rotated in and been at home.
When Isaiah forgets he hates Jordan for 2 seconds. He really is objective
He wasn’t though Zeke. In fact his Bulls were the only team that pushed the championship run Pistons. He was out twice against the all-time Celtic squad and once against a deep Bucks squad. So 3 times out in 1st round.
It hurt Zeke to say that 😂
He had to bring it back towards the end with the playoffs comment lol
@@nawaf7194 he living off marginal success trying to act like he supercedes Jordan. Lol. Meanwhile Jordan logo on sports jerseys all over. Zeke smh 🤦🏾♂️
@Kevin Joe Fo I was born in 88. Trust I know he was a monster on the court. Just a lil saltiness in his blood that's all 😂
Best era in basketball in my opinion with teams and players Isiahs 5 is correct with him right behind magic at the point for that era
I put him second behind Stockton, then magic third because of his defense.
@@keithjoseph128 loooooooooooooool
Dr. J is a legend and icon. In the 80s (10 years) what did he do.
Dr J, Bird, Magic top 3
Jordan
Magic
Bird
McHale
Jabbar/Malone
The decade when basketball was real....80's was the best...not watered down like this LeBron Era
Isiah is 100% on point.
Best 5 80s Magic,Jordan,Bird,Moses,Kareem
C - Moses Malone
PF - Charles Barkley
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson
A lot of players are like in between the decades...Barkley, Malone, drelxler, okajuwon, even Jordan were in between 80/90. Magic, bird, Isiah, Moses were true 80s.
5:33 well ya'll had squads back then. Jordan did not. Why don't Isiah remind us what happened in those 8 Olympic games? Where Jordan had Ewing, Mullin, Perkins, and Robertson as teammates.
Isiah has to admit Jordan had no team at all he didn’t have the squad he had coming in as a rookie but he still by himself was dominating the league
Every kid ... wanted to be Dr j. In the 70s and early 80’s dr j. Brought sensationalism and high flying excitement to basketball
1975-2000 is the golden age of the NBA and it will never be that good ever again.
It might be. Foreign players are taking over the league at a very rapid pace. European youth coaching is absolutely embarrassing the US.
Magic, Michael, Bird are on everyone’s all 80’s team.
Dr. J is very debatable. This is the most competitive spot. Dominique Wilkins, Kevin McHale, James Worthy, Adrian Dantley and Alex English all have legit arguments to fill this spot.
At center, Jabbar is my pick as well, but Moses Malone is right there as well.
Dr J and kareems prime were really in 70s although they were still great in early 80s
70s kareem and 70s dr. j much better than 80s version
Reggie has it right. 😄
1980s the best era
Kareem center, McHale ,bird ,johnson, jordan
Bird, Jordan, Magic are perhaps in top 5 all time and then find the other 2.
Magic not top five due to only playing on side.
@@keithjoseph128 Magic is top 4
reggie spot on
The fact that no one said Kevin McHale was kind of suprising
I'm not. I'm having bad flashbacks of McHell from just reading this message. I dare not speak his name.
What's even more surprising is no wilt
6th man
McHale was sixth man until 1985 I think.
Jordan is out of the first round while averaging how many? 30-35ppg 8 assists 6 rebounds
I think it was 37 ppg
Yea he also got swept against celtics in the playoffs with Jordan scoring 63. They lost at 2 ot.
Lol... It's basically young LeBrons Cavs in the finals against prime Duncans Spurs. No chance. Why even bring this up unless you're a pathetic loser like Isaiah?
@@scotthall7585 why do you even compare him to Lebron?, Jordan stayed with his team and won 2 3peat, Lebron went to Miami and team up with Wade and Bosh. Imagine, Lebron, Wade and Bosh (all face of the franchise Clev, Miami and Raptors) team up and got beaten by Dirk with Jason Terry.
@@thegoodsamaritan4333 I agree with you, just saying LeBron gets a pass for the first Spurs loss. No way LeBron or Jordan can be expected to beat hall of fame teams at that age with no help
Isiah's answer is the CORRECT answer:
PG - Magic
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Dr. J
C - Kareem
I like Zeke better than Magic in terms of pure skill, but a 6'9" point is hard to beat. I also think Moses is one of the most underrated players of all-time, but the dude was a Center. I think he only played one full season at the 4 and it was way back in the '70's.
I'd put hakeem at the 4
@@Jiron127 That's totally fair. Hakeem was really a 5, but J was really a 3 so it's the same diff. I think Hakeem is getting a little bit overhyped lately, and Dr. J is overlooked now-- he was basically Jordan before Jordan, but they were both all-time greats. Julius had the better resume, but it's hard to argue with a versatile 7-footer who is one of the best defenders ever in the paint.
@@jonathanwiggins5366 If I have Bird and Jordan scoring.. and Akeem and Jabar were standing there... Akeem would be my pick. In my mind a better Defender. Career per Game Stat averages on Akeem and Jabar are very close.
@J B You're not wrong. Your answer is probably my personal favorite list for the '80's too, but it felt sacrilegious to snub J and Jabbar based on their overall body of work.
@J B Doc was 30 in 1980.. Kareem was 33 .. That's not old.. They weren't smoking cigarettes on the sidelines like some of the doofs from the 50s 60s. If the lungs are there and without nagging injury.. No big deal. Farve looked better his 1st few years in Minn than he did with the Packers. USA Olympian Dara Torres won Silver/swimming at 41. J and Jabbar weren't part of the hard living crowd.
2 other different b.p.'s..... can equal or be better players that those good choices...
Pg- Magic
Sg- Jordan
Sf- Larry Bird
Pf- Charles "turrible" Barkley
C- Kareem
Great list! But I'd replace Charles with Kevin McHale since Charles really rook off in the 90s, although he's still good in the 80s but didn't produced enough.
@@basha8836 i agree i only put him on for that extra *power* you know
Isaiah kills me with his desire to want say that the GOATS (Magic and Jordan) weren’t better than him.
I mean he's only one tier below them. Jordan and Magic are top 5 all time, Isiah is top 15. I'd put Isiah right after Wilt
Things changed when Scottie got going.
Mj, Pippen, Lebron, Bird and Olajuwan.
Nobody was flying like Dr. J in the 1970's and 1980's
He was a highlight reel with an incomplete game. He'd fit perfectly in the 2000s.
Jordan bird magic a healthy pistol Pete and Akeem.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem
The only one arguable is Hakeem and I don't see an argument personally.
Kareem’s best years were behind him by the 80s. His best year in the 80’s was 79-80 where Magic won it without him, and he is not even close to 82- 83 Malone or 89-90 Hakeem.
@@mightymikeamps9317 Kareem was first team All-Nba, 4 times, 2nd team twice, and all defensive first team twice and second team once to start the decade until the '86-87 season when he really fell off. He won a FMVP in that stretch and finished top ten in MVP voting every year, top 5 finishes in 5 of them.
But you're correct he was even better in the 70's.
@@hardybryan Popularity voting based on previous performance aside, there is no 80s version of Kareem that starts ahead 88-89 or 89-90 Hakeem, or even 82 or 83 Moses Malone who out played Kareem in both finals matchups.
I’m trying to knock Kareem, or say these players are better than prime Kareem, but 80s Kareem and even 80s Dr J got way too much credit that Magic and Malone were more deserving of.
The only argument I see is replacing magic because he's the only one who can't play defense.
He was out in the first round because he didn't have the supporting cast, the right coach, the right system
Jordan, Magic, Bird, Lebron, Olajuwon
C: Kareem
PF: Larry
PG: Magic
SG: MJ (sorry)
SF: Pippen
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Magic
Jordan
Bird
Kareem
Only one spot is up for discussion lmaooooo
PG- Magic Johnson
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Larry Bird / Julius Erving
PF- Moses Malone / Kevin Mchale
C- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Does Moses count as a PF? If so, I'd definitely pick him for the PF over McHale, but I always thought Moses was a center? But yeah, Moses was amazing in the early '80s.
@@chambeet he was but I think that’s the best 5 of the 80’s
@@johnjoshtvofficial7633 Fair enough.
Magic man all the way!!
Magic is definitely top five starter - so is Kareem and so is Worthy... the Showtime Lakers in their prime would win the title today. Can say the same for the Bird Celtics (in their prime) and the Olajuwon Rockets.
It took Jordan 7yrs to win a title - against an injury ridden Lakers with no Kareem
As much I don't like Zeke, but I tell the fact the Chicago Bulls was not the greatest team in the '80s. They were kinda emerging yet. Btw, I am an avid fan of MJ
There was NO center on planet earth that could handle Bob Lanier. I know he was retired in 85 just saying!
Magic
Jordan
Jabbar
Barkley
Bird
Isiah hate jordan but still put him in the five.
John Stockton has left the chat.
McHale tough
How the hell could anybody put Moses Malone as a four??? That’s insane.
Greatest rebounder since Wilt
Reggie Miller picked the toughest basketball team in the 1980's.
Zeke had one glaring omission when asked to name the other great PGs of the 80s because this guy did it for like 5yrs straight. Not surprising because he was always woefully underrated & underappreciated: Fat Lever. The man is STILL top ten ALL TIME in career NBA triple doubles. That is Bird, Lebron, Wilt, Magic, Big O, etc.. territory. At 6'3? Please. Dude was a straight up baller!!
Ask Kevin McHale why he was left off the original dream team
man even before they already practice social diatancing 😅
Best players by traditional position and 2 non traditional players as number 6's. Best careers are not considered in this list. This team would never work do to egos and needing the ball in their hands, but it is the best, I think. 1 will shock. Big to small. Center is the most skilled traditional center of all-time: Wilt Chamberlain. Best power forward came out of college as a center, but because of David Robinson, he played as a power forward: Tim Duncan. Best traditional small forward needs to score inside and out, rebound and shoot free throws. Passing ability doesn't hurt: Larry Bird. Shooting guard. If the goat never played in the NBA Kobe would surely be here: Jordan. Best tradition point guard. Phenonemal defender and a triple double machine. Why does he get overlooked?: Jason Kidd. 3 of these players would play well together and 2 not. Guess which 2. Best 6 man: Magic Johnson. We know he is good, but not a great defender. Great leader, but so was Kidd. Lebron James. Despite his amazing ability to drive to the basket, which also facilitates his passing and assists is Inconsistent on defense, is a poor outside shooter and is an average freethrow shooter puts him behind Bird at small forward, but we do need him on the team.
1 - Magic
2 - MJ
3 - Bird
4 - Barkley
5 - Hakeem
No disrespect to Isiah as a great combo guard but Stockton was a better point guard.
Stockton was great but he wasn't in Isiah league
@@TheFadedSpade35 - That is because it is an association as opposed to a league. Stockton played 19 seasons in the association. His team was in the playoffs all 19 years. When he retired he led the league all time in assists and steals. He shot 52% for his career. Thomas has many records for the Detroit Pistons. I don't think he holds any career NBA records.
@@easyduzit6118 it's not about records it's about who's the best and more importantly who was the best in the 80's. It's clearly Magic > Isiah > Stockton
@@TheFadedSpade35 - I don't agree. Stockton was a better point guard. This is about players of the 1980s. That is slightly different.
@@easyduzit6118 Stockton was better in the 90's I think but even 90's Stockton isn't over Magic and Isiah in the 80's
Michael Jordan was only out in the first round because of the guys around him. Almost nobody can single handedly carry a team
Magic
Jordan
Bird
McHale
Jabbar
Perfect lineup
Can't say I'd argue with that. McHale is my only question, but I am not sure if, say, Malone was better by the late '80s. You'd need '87 Magic, '88 Jordan, '86 Bird, Jabbar from '80, and McHale from some year in there.
@@chambeet I think Malone was great cause he played with Stockton abs that deadly pick n roll also i think McHale is a little more versatile on both sides of the ball
@@chambeet
Power forward is the hardest to pick
Malone Duncan Garnett Barkley could have gone with any of them as well.
I just like McHale the most.
Solid stuff, but can't believe John Stockton wasn't even mentioned in passing.
His better years were more the 90s. 80s were pretty much owned by Magic with Isiah coming into the picture towards the end of the decade. Utah was okay in the 80s, but didn't become a powerhouse til the 90s.
@@Maximillian200HP His better years were once Magic was taken out of the picture. They would have never made it to the finals without HIV.
@@mightymikeamps9317 Stockton or Thomas?
@@Maximillian200HP Definitely Thomas... and I feel bad saying because Stockton deserves a lot of respect, but he couldn’t put the team on his back and take over a game (or finals) like Thomas could.
@@mightymikeamps9317 Stockton was a totally different style of player than Isiah. He wasn't the type to be the alpha dog like Magic Johnson or Isiah which is why Malone/Stockton made a good pair.
Magic obviously Jordan obviously Bird obviously and then McHale and then I think Moses is almost an easy choice over Kareem if it’s for only the 80s. He also beat kareem and the lakers
I think they’re all obvious choice except mchale, I can see Barkley.
"Pistol" Pete Maravich, Larry Bird , Wilt Chamberland , Kareem , and lets say Clyde Drexler . Sure Jordan could play on any team and Dr J but lets go with this team over any modern team and play either real basketball or todays no touch game . THIS TEAM WINS
Who beats Zeke's five?
I think Barkley at the 4 would fit in better with the rest of Isiah's lineup than Julius does. Also, I think a case can be made for Olajuwon over Kareem.
MJ was so good that Isiaha and the pistons had to play dirty just to slow MJ down. Lambeer has to literally punch and clothesline people to stop, he was the cheapest player to ever play.
Here’s my five.
1989-90 season Hakkeem - Center
1982-1983 Moses Malone at PF
Larry Bird -SF
1988 or 1989 MJ - SG
Magic - PG
moses is with duncan the most underrated player ever. AND he was the best center in the 80s not karrem.
I certainly believe that Moses is among the most underrated players ever, I agree. I think maybe in 1980 Kareem was a little bit better, but shortly thereafter Moses surpassed him.
@@chambeet more succesful for sure but i truly think moses was the best in the 80s (2 MVP, FMVP, etc.). The last jigsaw for DR J. He destroyed the showtime lakers in the finals (+18 RPG - 25.8 PPG). Kareem was 36 (i think) in the finals.
80-89 is not the same as all time
Can’t compare 80’s to 90’s bulls.
True...But Starting in 88 they were coming..it took them a while to get over the hump..
But the 90s..The bulls had the NBA on 🔒
Isaiah: Magic, MJ, Bird, Dr J, Kareem
Steve: Magic MJ, Bird, Barkley, (Moses) Malone
Reggie: Magic, MJ, Bird, Moses Malone, Kareem
Larry Legend, part of the 80s Holy Trinity.
Well I mean yeah he’s top 10 all-time. Top 3 player of the 80s
@@MM-jc7uv He was the best in the 80's. And he's top 5 all time
@@dontedunbar7258 magic was better
@@MM-jc7uv No he wasn't. Bird won 3 straight MVP's in the middle of magic's prime
@@dontedunbar7258 5x champ with 3x finals mvp and 2 mvp awards in the 80s. Bird is close but Magic edges it with his rings and he is the greatest passer of all-time
how old is this footage? because Isiah and all the Pistons players are out here saying Lebron is the best meanwhile he's not adding him to his 5??
The Video was for the’80s starting 5
No one who knows ball thinks LeBron is better than Bird lol
My starting 5 Hakeem at center PF Moses Malone SF Charles Barkley And Pippen and Jordan guards.
Pippen over Bird looool wtf is this
Isiah Thomas got it right.
Zeek over Magic. His team use to beat the goat.
Even Zeek himself disagrees with you. Magic def tops him.
@@solidarnosc9663
Watch again. Zeke says he’s better than Magic at the end.
@@irishgrl lol... and everyone else laughed.
I have Magic two behind Stockton, but I couldn't argue with putting Thomas ahead of him either because he was a liability on defense.
Господи Этот Айзиа Томас реально противный карлик, как он вообще попал в зал славы? Некого было принимать что ли?
Why is Jordan in the 80's Lineup... he only won Rings in the 90's...
He was a bad ass in the 80s, he just didn’t have Pippen and the Triangle.
@@mightymikeamps9317 Correct, but still no Rings and early exits, so I believe Jordan is for the 90's... 6 rings...
By 1987 Michael Jordan was already the best player in the league he just didn't had the overall team to win but look at the numbers and accomplishments from 1987 onwards.
@@paullooper1090 Here’s the thing... Rings or no rings who are you going to have start at the 2 in front of a 1988 Defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Leader MJ? Dumars? Ainge? Scott?
Here’s my five.
1989-90 season Hakkeem - Center
1982-1983 Moses Malone at PF
Larry Bird -SF
1988 or 1989 MJ - SG
Magic - PG
@@DC5Boss Yes, he was the best, yet no one to help him to get past the Pistons and Celtics... If, Jordan was really the best during the 80's why didn't he won a title during that decade?
Is cringe to watch Isaih talk about MJ
Doesn't wanna do it but gotta pay homage
Bird gets no respect lol
No kidding! Bird was so much better than Magic it's sickening.
@@keithjoseph128 so much better? I agree Bird was better in his prime but Magic was still a greater player
Best team of 80s
Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Bird
Moses Malone
Sixth man Dr J and just fyi if Iseah can get over da past so should Jordan and Pip
Be bitter dude. Stop talking about the GOAT like you had something to compare to
PG- Isiah Thomas
SG- MJ
SF- Bird
PF- Moses
C- Kareem
slow down your talking.
I’m surprised Isaiah was actually talking up MJ the first 3/4 of his talk on him but then he had to be the hater and bring up the Bulls being kicked from the playoffs in the first round. I mean the Bulls had their guy in the 80s they just needed to find players to play around him which they did in the 90s. Isaiah had lots of players arpund him, Magic and Larry did as well, that’s why they won Championships in the 80s then they got older, and then MJ caught up with them with having players around him and the rest is history.
shiiiit if they do your favorite 5 of the 70's they'll till pick magic, Jordan, bird. gotta grab Jordan outta highschool
dr j was top 5 in the 70s, but in the 80s Definately not
His average was around 20-22 points, with only one championship, that the mvp was moses malone
bird was better then dr j in the 80s .
jordan
kobe
lebron
oneal
curry
goat team
Any team without Larry sux.
The 80's! Try again
This is also an easy one:
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Alex English
SF - James Worthy
PF - Moses Malone
C - Kareem Abdul Jabbar
LOOOOOOL. C'mon, man, what happened to "champions only???"
@@jonathanwiggins5366 I'm a Nuggets fan, we would have won that WCF series in 1987 if Alex didn't get injured.
@@curiouslymavismade Damn, with no Jordan and no Bird but you got Worthy-- I figured you for a Lakers fan.
@@jonathanwiggins5366 They said 1980's, Jordan didn't get his first ring until 1991.
@@curiouslymavismade he didn't need a ring to clearly be a lot better than anyone in the history of being a 2. Just all time 80's and mj is on it.
Isiah and Stockton are so close. Stockton Defense puts him over Magic. And if Magic is a pg than so is lebron James and Jordan. Isiah gets the edge cause of his rings. but Johns PG stats are never gonna be touched and i switch my mind every year.