Exploring the Fire Nation l Avatar: The Last Airbender feat. The Templin Institute
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You know it really says a lot when a (cartoon)show ended over a decade ago and yet we're all still talking about it. how wonderful is that?!
Danielle Harkness It helps that we're getting a live-action remake next year. Can't wait!
I discovered it only 3 years ago and have watched it 5 times, It’s just too awesome, my favourite show directed to kids by far.
Cartoon or no, it was one of the good ones 😊 and well worth remembering ten years on.
This channel has nee referencing that show for good world building and writing...
I hope we keep talking about until our children cant stop talking about it.
I like how it sounds like a history lecture, like someone in the actual universe could be explaining it all to us.
Me too! Maybe this is what Aang watched when he went to school in "The Headband" 😂
@@lindenlynx Well, in all seriousness, it could be played within the avatar universe sometime after the Korra series.
That's what templin is all about lol
This would be the introductory lecture to the four or six week focus on the fire nation; its history, art, culture, military, specific noteable events, and peoples.
I dont often comment but I feel like this would a good place to point out that if you flip the avatar map you actually get a pretty good stand in for Asia and most of the nations actually work as stand ins for a lot of real world countries.
Fire Nation= world war 2 Japan
Earth kingdom = pre collapse monarchist China
Water Tribes = Inuites on the southern and northern hemisphere
And Air nomads = Tibet within China who theres been a concerted effort to wipe out.
Its by no means a perfect representation and Atla creates its own world through amazing writting but I still find it to be a pretty neat thing to notice.
It’s kind of poetic that the war started with the Avatar and the Firelord being enemies and end with the new Avatar and Firelord being friends.
Huh...
Hadn't actually noted that
lol, I was going to contradict you on that because Roku and Sozin were childhood friends. But, I realized that though they indeed were friends, it was Roku and Sozin that were friends and NOT the Avatar and Firelord. Once they got their preordained roles, they would not see eye-to-eye again.
The way I see it, the war started with the Avatar and the Firelord going from friends to enemies. The war ended with the Avatar and the Firelord turning from enemies to friends
It’s a revolution.
Obama's Best Friend still is very poetic
It brings me great joy to see the CZcams algorithm actually giving me recommendations about stuff I love like ATLA
For a surprisingly long time, the Wikipedia article for “Mongols” included the sentence: “Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.”
That cant be real
Proof?
The only proof is the memory of the few that saw it
Unless you know a way to go to an older version of a Wikipedia article
@@Leo-ok3uj I mean, Wikipedia keeps all of the edit history for its pages, so it's not even that hard to check
I love how the Fire Nations exploding growth is a reflection of fire. Essential for life but causes death once out of control.
With out death life stops growing and with out life death is nonexistent
@@Mystickrage Well that isnt true... Why would life stop growinf without death?
"Water is cool and soothing, Earth is steady and stable. But Fire... Fire is alive. It breathes, it grows. Without the Bender, a rock will not throw itself! But Fire will spread and destroy everything in it's path if one does not have the will to control it!"
@@TheIfifi Lack of resources, in addition, nearly every life form requires other life forms to die, in order to survive.
@@TheIfifi without destruction there are no building blocks with which to create something new. Scavengers, bacteria and fungi break down corpses and turn them to soil, and eventually break down into soil themselves, that feeds plants that feed animals that become corpses. That is why the aspects of the god Shiva in Hinduism aren't inherently considered evil, despite being the source of the Dance of Destruction.
Do a a series with the water tribes, earth kingdom, and air nomads, this was rlly cool
Caucasian Invasion I don’t think there’s a enough knowledge about them. Also the fire nation is the coolest of the factions.
I want to see what they can say about the United Republic of Nations.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 the republic is ass.
Caucasian Invasion it was the Templin Institute that did this video
He already had a video on the worldbuilding of the earth kingdom. Not quite the same style as this video though.
Heh, the Earth Kingdom got *rocked* by civil war...
The Fire Nation also really burned their bridges with that hundred year war.....
I'll go to the corner now.
Andre Proudian oh don’t be a WET blanket
Okay, Sokka.
@@andreproudian7032 The Air Nomads were BLOWN AWAY at the very start of that war
@@SennaHawx As Sokka once said:GO TO YOUR ROOM!
Something of note with Fire Nation history: shortly after the death of Avatar Kuruk, the pirate queen Tagaka of the Fifth Nation pirate fleet wiped out the remainder of the Earth Kingdom's navy.
When Tagaka wad eventually defeated and sent to Lake Laogai, the Fire Navy was sent to mop up the remainder of the Fifth Nation, and free all their slaves. It's not unreasonable to believe that the Fire Nation spent quite a few years afterwards as the sole major anti-piracy force for the Four Nations. It stands to reason that they'd get a swelled head over this which would lead to their sense of superiority.
"Hey, _we_ defeated the scary pirate fleet _you_ guys couldn't, _we_ kept order on the sea lanes when you all were too inept or cowardly. Maybe we could run things better than you."
Tagaka's smug ass getting completely blasted by a totally untrained Kyoshi was satisfying af.
This is yet another excellently done Avatar video that I dearly hope won't get copyrighted like some of the others.
Zuko: Helps restore peace among the nations with the help of Aang, becoming a better person and leader in the end.
[Everyone liked that]
I feel like Katara is telling me all this, nice narrator. :)
@IBM do U? that probably stopped once Zuko became fire lord.
@Matt James I mean, you can't blame her for not liking the fire benders....
They killed her mom... that must've hurt...
@Matt James I guess you're right...
@Matt James katara was actually the first to reach out to Zuko in the crystal catacombs. She even apologizes after she lashes at him. She was going to heal his scar with the spirit water. Azula showed up and Zuko betrayed Katara
When he joins the group in season three she has the hardest time warming to him because he's already betrayed her personally once.
@@merkavamkivm3373 That was Katara with the narration of her girl's voice from the opening, just like that was Salem the whole time when she is the mysterious narrator who tells us about how the universe of RWBY begins when I didn’t realise that the Mysterious Narrator with her evil voice is a witch until now.
It's interesting to hear Team Avatar referred to as "a rising coalition"
I thihk she meant for the white lotus order, the rendents of the earth kingdom's army, and both water tribs....
...he served as the political and spiritual center of the nation. He then confiscated everyone's swords, then wrote poetry and another book about themselves.
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*knock knock* it's the United States
I’m going to invade the water tribes and then hopefully The Earth Kingdom; He said, and failed, and also lost his bending.
Hey look the fire nation just found out how to use their bending to turn water into steam so they can make *many different types of machines and factories with machines in them, so they can make a lot of warboats real fast*
"No, you cant just invade everybody else because you want to share your prosperity!"
*How about I do, anyway*
I like that this sounds like I’m learning it in history class. It really puts into perspective how grand and awful historical events can lack human feeling when you’re learning them through facts alone. As consumers of the series, we got to see the emotional aspect of all of this. We saw how it defined generations and beat people down. We felt Roku’s pain when he lost his friendship. It puts into perspective how vile historical events really were for the average civilian, the soldier that became a number, the leader that became a symbol (of peace as well as evil). It shows you that you can know all the facts, but without personal stories, you can’t really understand how horrifying a situation really was.
It's too bad we never saw much of the Fire Nation or its supposed superior military in LoK.
is kinda crazy but if korra was not knocked down be the spirit, we would have the avatar leading a fire nation army on raid to the water tribe '-'
Because Zuko introduced reforms that nerfed their military influence, and also pretty much influenced the Fire Nation to never want to start a war again. It’s similar to how Japan renounced having a formal military after WW2, just not quite as extreme.
sixstringpsycho can you actually prove it ? Where was that written that he nerfed the army and navy?
@@yegorperepelytsya7812 Did you watch the video...?
I wish we could see more battle scenes
I find it ironic that the FIRE nation has such a good navy
I did not seem this coming.
Also never have I been this early.
Thats....not what she said.
you know nothing
I firmly believe that we need a series set before Avatar Aang and perhaps even before the Air Avatar before him. Thus we would be able to see the culture at it's finest before the distortions of the Great war.
So before yangchen?
Sozin helped Roku combat a volcano by siphoning heat from boiling magma and releasing it into the air, cooling it enough that it turns the lava back into a solid state. Water benders can change the state of water to ice or mist. Both of these forms of bending play with the laws of thermodynamics.
Water bender: Water => Ice => Water => Mist
Fire bender: Magma = Lava => Earth
Earth bender: Earth => Lava
Toph literally invented metal bending.
Theoretically, a talented, intelligent, and skilled enough fire bender should be able to steal the heat from anything. Just as they can express fire and heat, they should also be able to remove enough heat from something, or someone, that the target freezes.
Imagine seeing Azula performing a firebending technique, launching a punch toward an enemy. Nothing happens. No spark. No flame. Just the telltale shimmer of heat radiating out the back of that person as their body freezes solid.
Turiwhewhe Ngarimu or opposite , rising the temperature body , leading to death
"Long ago, the podcast nations existed in harmony. But all that changed when the Templin Institute broadcast"
Fire Nation is basically Meiji era Japan mixed with Prussia and Steampunk Britain.
DialecticDr earth-kingdom pretty much like qing china then
Amazing video! The Fire Nation has always been my favorite of the Avatar cultures, and I love how you guys handled it here. I'll definitely be checking out The Templin Institue's channel. I always love your Avatar content, Tim!
I like how the civilization with access to fire first, devloped faster then the rest since fire was the main factor in human's journey to bending nature to their will.
Why does the title say "Exploring the Fire Nation"? It literally just said everything that anyone who payed any attention to the show would know. Still, it warms my heart to see more ATLA content day by day after the show ended like a decade ago.
Why is Avatar so damn deep I love it
The Firelord can be the flame of a bonfire, a forge, or a forest fire. Which ever they choose, the Firenation will follow in unity, progress, or consumption.
🔥Now i'm a proud loyal servant of the Fire Nation🔥
The fire Nation is basically like the targaryens from Game of Thrones the Fire Nation used to have dragons before they died off
Only difference is Aegon won his war
I never see this crossover coming
Want to see weird? Try Shadiversity and Overly Sarcastic Productions.
This is a legitimate Fire Nation history class.
Fire is the most misused and misunderstood element
Varelaboy I know right 😢
Me, knowing more about the history of fictional nations than my own real nation's: Oof.
Same here man. Still not sure how America formed and I live here!
@@realshit3605 it was a colony from the british, and it then fought against the british for indepence and won, and then later became the united states
Gaius Lucius And slaughtered natives... slavery..... oppression .......
Gaius Lucius it was stolen Native American land. Don’t sugar coat it sweetie
@@thadramallama who was sugar coating it?
3:05. "When the earth kingdom... Was rocked". I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
What do u mean this isnt a video on Japanese history?
It's a mix of Chinese and Japanese history. If the Earth Kingdom reflects China's decline in late 19th century under the Qing dynasty, Fire Nation reflects its cultural peak during the Tang dynasty.
Both nations have the same cultural aesthetics too - Earth Kingdom (specifically Ba Sing Se) having Manchu (Qing dynasty) design and Fire Nation having classic Han Chinese design from the Tang dynasty.
Meanwhile, the Air Nomad genocide and the 100 years war reflect Japan's industrial revolution and the subsequent war of conquest against its neighbor. (Not to mention historical revisionism)
Don't be silly, if this were based on real world feudal Japan there'd be way more giant enemy crabs
Isn’t the Fire nation based off Japan ?
@@Valencetheshireman927 Nah it's based off China, with a hint of Mongolia
kkachi95 actually the air nomads were based on Tibetan culture. Their genocide is partially based on the real invasion and ongoing genocide on Tibetans to this day.
That was really good. The Templin Insitute has definitely earned my suscription! And props to the writers of Avatar. It's amazing that their world has such History and depth to analyse in the first place.
Everything, and I do mean everything, was irrevocably altered when the Nation of Fire launched it's assault
Yay a new avatar video I’m so excited 😁
i'm an Earth Kingdom commoner but i like learning about Fire Nation history even though they attacked us
I saw this and instantly clicked!! Glad to see the collab with Templin, hope for
more in the future.
Wasn't it implied that Iroh could've captured Ba Sing Sae but didn't because he was too heartbroken after the death of his son?
I am unsure that would be the case. They weren't exactly sure of the true layout or massive scale of the city. (I think Iroh was more or less surprised once he entered some years later as a refugee.) He was the first to enter the wall that doesn't mean he got that far. I also highly doubt he knew much about the Dai-Li who could conduct sabotage and guerilla fighting. (I personally think that's how his son Lu-Ten died. They simply found out he has a high ranking leader, possibly even found out he was the son of the general and prince and decided to take him out.)
@@mill2712 The layout would've certainly been a problem since that's always a problem in sieges and it can be changed due to earthbending. The scale of the city would've been pretty easy to guess based off the wall since everyone is living above ground. Of course the fire nation doesn't know that so maybe they overestimate how many soldiers they'd need.
The Dai-Li could conduct sabotage and pick off a few key figures (Like Mako, nice theory) before they would become useless against the fire nation. They wouldn't conduct guerrilla warfare since they're spies not warriors. There's also only like a dozen dozen of them so using them as warriors instead of crushing fear of the ongoing war would be a waste of lives.
@@abezevlag7337
You don't have to be a warrior to be a guerilla, just fight in a nonconventional way (In real life anyone can be a guerilla fighter even with minimal training.) and in the urban setting like Ba-Sing-Sae is really easy to do.
Yeah the layout would be difficult to know not only because of the city's massive size, and earthbending being able to change and make problems almost instantly but because Iroh was the first Fire nation general to even breach the wall. How could they even know what to do. If I was him I would also have to make a tactical retreat from the city. Probably even wait a few years for the comet to come as well.
(I also would never let my only son and future heir to the throne in the heat of battle especially in a siege and would be near my side at all times but hey that's just me.)
Damn i would love an Avatar: Total War with that map
I want an avatar hoi4 mod
I want an Avatar World At War mod. To hell with bending, give me a Thompson!
@@saintroddy id imagine each nation would use bending specific weapons, fire would use fire rifles, earth would use rock machine guns, water would use precise ice snipers and air would use air shotguns
@@christopherscott1336 It does have a Ck2 mod if you're interested in it
I really do think they had the best army in the world and if aang was not hit in his chi blocked scar I truly think ozai would have had no trouble getting any nation to bend to his will, the fact that they use non benders in their military and also make up for bending limitations with technology and espionage such as their tanks balloons and even their metal forging skills. Their navy was the best. their military even though used as comical material they are actually quite terrifying. They use any and all resources that they can from sozins comet to animals and their own enemy’s deigns along with their fanatical generals who would go as far as to kill spirits, not to mention their fortresses, along with their forces that are specialized to take on the different nations, and were even shown to be able to go head to head with the Avatar and basically wipe out the water tribes
"This war is OVER." -Zuko
the way this sounded downright like an educational history lesson on some world power but is actually the recollections of a fantasy nation. Truly shows the professionalism of this video and the caliber of detail paid to world building for the show. I enjoyed this very much and would love to eventually see a version for each nation!
Proud Fire Nation citizen!
Screaming Shirly me too
Hail fire lord zuko!
the fire nations have certain got alot of firebrands for a Royal Family
Loved this video! I would enjoy seeing more in this format!
The Templin Institute is all in this format
Then subscribe to The Templin Institute.
You could argue that fire being the strongest element should naturally rule politically
*_i always imagined the war as a world war one esque conflict_*
only the fire nation can live in a time of peace and wealth while at the same time fighting a world war 💀
Just saying IROH COULD HAVE TAKEN BA SING SE BUT A DUDES SON DIED WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. Thanks for listening
Ozai would have continued nonetheless. That's why he will always be weaker than Iroh.
@@ShadowGodOfDarkness imagine if the avatar had died in the middle of the series, it would be "Iroh, the last great Tea maker "
I hope we'll see more Templin videos on the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra, like the other three nations and the Hundred Year War.
Something I really appreciate about the original show is that it doesn't shy away from the Fire Nation's claim of superiority. The Fire Nation *is* technologically superior to the rest of the world, and in many ways (like with gender) it's socially superior as well. The show makes this pretty clear by the final season. But even with those things considered, the Fire Nation are still the villains. It doesn't matter what advancements they have; imperialism is still destructive, and nationalism is still wrong. Actual countries use the Fire Nation's argument all the time to justify conquest and exploitation of "poorer" or "worse-off" territories, even today. And this children's show looks at that argument, acknowledges that it might be based in fact, and says it still doesn't matter. Powerful stuff.
Obroa-skai That’s really interesting. I hadn’t thought of it this way.
Obroa-skai the show seems pretty neutral on nationalism. I mean, the independence of the four nations and the United Republic are held to be good things, which is inherently pretty nationalistic. Sozin was definitely a globalist, and probably the only one in the show.
@@deriznohappehquite I'm really not interested in PragerU style takes on globalism and nationalism. Globalism is not expansionism and conquest; globalism is trans-national unity, the sort of thing the Avatar exists to enable. Expansionism of a single country and culture intent on dominating and eliminating others is nationalism.
Not debating any of this ftr, these are definitions you need to live with or else move on.
@@deriznohappehquite I could get behind Sozin.
@@ultratankie The definition you used for nationalism is actually the definition of jingoism.
Me: Hey, a Fire Nation video!
Me: Wait this is Hello Future Me, why did he use Templin's thumbnail artstyle?
*Sees "ft. The Templin Institute"
Me: HHHMMMM
This was amazing! More history lessons of the four nations please!!
Never ceases to amaze me with your in-depth exploration of ATLA world building, HFM. This was awesome
You know, you'd think in a world with only four nations they'd manage to find a way to make friends and chill out.
I feel like there's more than four nations. There are two water tribes and the Earth Kingdom is more of a collection of independent states than an actual country. Omashu even has its own King.
Plus the air "nation" was a whole bunch of nomadic tribes then there's minor factions like Kyoshi Island, the Sun warriors, the Swamp people etc.
Brilliant! The best summation of Fire Nation history and character. Thank you for this. Uncanny reference to imperialist modes in recent history.
IM COMFY AND READY TO WATCH THIS ENTIRE VID
I can’t get over how marvelously put together this was! Thank you for this! It’s mythical!
TRAVEL ADVISORY: EXPECT A WARM WELCOME.
Started watching this channel 3 days ago and binged all of the avatar content, this is appreciated
I've always wanted to imagine myself being apart of the fire nation, but every quiz I take, it puts me in water tribe.
Hey i just heard some good things about your book, sooo i bought it too.
Btw love ur vids keep up the good work!
This was amazing! I'd love to see videos like this on the other nations in the Avatar world too
How have I been a fan of this series for my whole life and never known about the Kamurikage and the origins of the Fire Nation?
Brought up the Republic era but not Fire Lord Izumi? Her reasons for not attacking the Earth Empire were actually deeply rooted in the Fire Nation's previous aggression during the Hundred Year War and her unwillingness to repeat that.
She was to afraid of the past to stop another evil empire that harms it's own citizens from rising! That isn't understandable or honorable it's outright cowardly! Evil happens when good people turn away and just let it occur! A terrible leader. Good thing this universe has an Avatar to save everyone.
Flames Of Chaos Not exactly. Had she agreed to Raiko’s idea of a Preemptive strike on the Earth Empire. Then Kuvira can use it as propoganda to rally any undecided provinces. Essentially portraying the fire nation as having learnt nothing from their defeat at the end of the 100 year war.
I literally 🔥 clicked onto this upload 🙌🏽
I’m in my Fire & Air Avatar Mood today
Flameo, Hotman! This was a great video!
Wow this is awesome! I love that this show is still talked about and recognized as a great peace of art e culture. Keep it up!
Two of my favorite channels working together on one of my favorite worlds, yay!
The editing is top notch on this one!
This was wonderful, highly informative and engaging! GJ by both parties and I hope you do something for the northern water tribe next!
Nice, love the collab
I watch you and my sib watches Templin... It's a crossover of interests! I love seeing channels support each other lol
Wow, congrats Templin folks. You've shined extra brightly on this one. Well done!
I looked up what your birth element is by your zodiac and discovered that Aries would be Fire benders. I find that to be awesome. I would have been born in the Fire Nation and would have been apart of the superior element. I so would have enlisted into the army and served the fire lord.
I've been subbed to the both of you for some time now but this I was not expecting
Two of my favourite channels teaming up!
This is great! Would love to see more videos like this
Beautifully detailed video, well done!
This was absolutely awesome!
Honestly I can listen to her talk for hours.
This is such a great video, everything is well explained!
Awesome! My two favorite CZcams channels together
This was like a TV documentary...
60 Seconds called... they want their episode back
Really cool video, will have to check out their channel.
Hurray for collabs!
This is really cool, I now want to see the other nations as well!!
This is the crossover I never knew I needed.
Hey! Love your videos, man! I was wondering if you would consider making a video: On Writing Rivalries
Thanks man.
P.s. Can’t wait to read your book!
This is honestly a dream come true for you guys to colab.
Your book arrived in the mail yesterday. Cant wait for exams to be over so i can get really stuck in :D
Two of my favorite channels partnering, yes
If this was on a history exam I would get 100%! But jokes aside there is no words to describe the awesomeness of this video. Congratulations!!! Keep this quality up. 👍🏻🥰
i genuinely like the idea of the Templin Institute. good video!
Watch their stellaris videos it's so good
This sparks joy
3:08 i see what you did there
Always happy to see more avatar.
No, I definitely didn't squeal loudly when Zuko showed up. That was you - not me. xD