El Paso Elsewhere and ? (Zero Punctuation)
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The Zero Punctuation episode on Armored Core VI is now available in Early Access on Patreon and CZcams Memberships.
The uncensored versions of ZP / EP are available at the $2 / tier as a new additional perk.
CZcams does not make clear why videos are demonetized when it comes to curse words often, so this is the only way around it without constantly playing a guessing game with their system.
Thanks!
Welp... I guess I'm "finally" gonna stop watching ZP vids (possibly even Escapist content altogether) thanks to CZcams's *FUCKING BULLSHIT CENSORSHIP FASCISM.*
See, this's why y'all should've just kept the uncensored content on the Escapist's own separate website like you did "back when" with that one game about the mutant raccoon thingamajig, 'cause lawd knows I ain't signing up for any monthly money-bleeding schemes. Not even for you guys.
@@CaptainSeasick Agreed. Not to mention it even created traffic for their website. Seems like shooting yourself in the foot if you ask me.
Honestly been watching for years this. And im not paying monthly to watch this. Hope that your every 2023 zero punctuation will have the censoring removed then for the podcast listeners
Are the uncensored videos just through Patreon, or are they available through CZcams memberships as well?
Honestly, just move videos back to the escapist website if these keeps happening. This micro transaction bull is slowly killing my interest in this channel.
Can't believe they turned swear words into microtransactions
The reverse swear jar!
@@shannonnezul4903 A swear tip jar.
Did it in Demolition Man
Normally I'm expecting a very different experience when I pay to be sworn at.
Yeah, especially since I personally thought the made-up swears improved the experience
I'm not sure I've ever heard more ominous news about a game's release than 'Embargo date has been moved'.
“Wait, we need even more people to buy it before anybody tells them it’s awful.”
@@jcace13 Pretty much that. It's why I never pre-order.
Usually the shitty games already have long embargo’s by default so hearing about an embargo needing to be extended is just really funny. It’s not enough for games to be pushed back/delayed, reviews need to be delayed to.
Apparently someone did eventually realize the game was shit.
Well that's not foreboding.
i don't know why but the second half feels likes an SCP file more than a reveiw
inb4 Polybius
Wow, [REDACTED] sure does sound terrible, guess I'd better not buy it for my [DATA EXPUNGED].
Certainly sounds like a cognitohazard, if a genuinely low-danger Safe one based mostly around tedium:
"SCP-???? is a video game from [DATA EXPUNGED] that makes everything in one's life more tedious and boring once one has started it until its completion, with 'starting it' including to learn about multiple aspects of it in any identifiable way including its name, the company's name, its setting, or [DATA EXPUNGED]. Unfortunately the game itself is so objectively boring and repetitive that universally subjects quickly start contemplating suicide despite its low difficulty."
volgun crossover when
i feel like if the foundation wanted to scrub a cognitohazard video game off the internet then i feel like this is one of the strategy they would use
yatzee: "oh hey there has been a embargo of this game that totally exist guess it in the comments, im going to tell you about the game now". just seems fishy
I'm guessing game # 2 is Hellboy: Web of Wyrd. Over-the-shoulder roguelike beat-em-up with supernatural elements that's been compared to Hades, with a "recognizable license."
Yeah I think this is the one.
Yeah I just looked at the game play and everything checks out including the IP.
well lets hope this delay comes with some bug fixes at the very least
@@prcerviI wouldn't get your hopes up to high lol
god I applied to work at this developer and got through several rounds of interviews before deciding I didn't like their vibe, would be crazy if it was them.
someone should redact the games for every ZP video, so they can be used in trivia games. first person who guesses the game wins
I play a similar game where I skip to a random point in those yearly compilations and time myself to see how fast I can guess the game. Yahtzee goes on so many tangents and game protagonists often look so generic that it can be really tricky sometimes.
I'd watch a video where that's a challenge among a panel of CZcamsrs. Bonus points if you can get Yahtzee in on it to see if he remembers what game he was talking about. Have him guess last of course so the others can lock in a guess.
Oh my god, that sounds amazing to do with friends.
I used to keep playing the old ones as background noise at work, anything from the first 5-7 years I'd have in seconds. Starts getting fuzzy shortly after Fifa13
Another idea is to watch a video on mute and try to figure out what Yahtzee is saying in general from the imagery. It’s a fun game, but I’ve seen almost all of the ones before 2023 like 50 bazillion times already, ao I can only really do this game for the newer ones.
Yahtzee has now confirm that the ? game is Hellboy Web of Wyrd.
The second game was Hellboy, Yahtzee confirmed it on a second wind stream
Yahtzee is funny.
Yahtzee censoring out curse words because of CZcams is equally funny.
Yahtzee censoring out an entire game because of some random bullshit is the FUNNIEST GODDAMN THING I'VE SEEN ALL YEAR
Given the little disclaimer at the start, I thought it would have been Assassin's Creed Mirage and CZcams was having a stroke because "ASS?? TWICE??? IN THE TITEL???? HOW PROFAAAAANE!!!!!"
I hope when the new embargo date is reached the keep this video as it is.
Danganronpa joke was also did me a laugh.
The redacted box descriptions were bloody hilarious!!! "Pretend I'm Lara Croft or something"..."A game that probably doesn't want to be identified by now"...christ Yahtzee is creative!
I shouldn't've watched this while eating lunch!
"if you're really curious, my bottom 5 will probably be after the embargo"
The idea that this game's Embargo will never lift is hilarious to me
Regarding the "at no point did anyone raise a hand" situation with licensed IP games, I guara-fuckin-tee you that everyone did, and then got overruled by either the IP holder or some higher-up. Devs always, ALWAYS know if their game sucks, and the helplessness of not being able to fix it is the worst part.
On either an interview or an EP I think the latter, Yahtzee answered the question of "don't the devs hate you?" with no actually, they usually agree with his criticism but didn't have time to fix it because of publisher pressure.
Yeah I think I read something from him in a Reddit AMA.
Ah I love corporate dystopia
It's so much easier to have them tell us how to think
@@Maltbrew naughty words bad. More war and profit pls.
@@MaltbrewWhoa whoa. You're still thinking? You're supposed to do nothing but apologize for them, no matter how much they screw up or outright lie or literally hurt people, especially if it's a big business with shareholders. Clearly those can only care about your well-being even more. /s
HEY F#@K U I LOVE MY CORPORATE SLOP CONTENT PRODUCT COMMITTEE APPROVED AND INDUSTRY STANDARD, YES MY LIFE IS EMPTY AND POINTLESS
"Dystopia is when youtube doesn't allow me to say "fuck"."
Yahtzee should go the Fight Club route: Strive to make the sensored swears even more horrendous than the originals until they're begging to get things switched back
Reminds me of the Fry and Laurie sketch where they make up swearwords in protest like Cloff, Prunk and pim-hole.
Funny idea, but a more likely outcome would be that they just ban him completely
Now I'm trying to picture in what context the "haven't been fucked like this since grade school"--or was it kindergarten?--equivalent would ever come up in.
@@aukondk I bet you they don't play this song on the radio~
@@aukondk - Wow, my dad used "pimhole" all the time and I'm just finding out now where he got it from. RIP.
iirc there was a comedian who did a bit where he'd say a string of bleepable swearwords that would spell out another swearword in morse code.
"The enemy AI is as formidable as a large curious dog trying to lick a piece of kibble out of a hairbrush," is the kind of mental storytelling I'm here for, well done Yahtz.
Pretty soon Yahtzee's videos will just be small islands of highly elaborate adjectives between oceans of novelty bleeps and black boxes.
This is an underrated and well written comment
not annnnyyymoooorrrrreeeeeee ^_^
@@R3QV13m :(
Pretty sure this one is going down in history as "the one with all the censorship stuff", then "Ha, yeah, that was a good one"
I really genuinely truly hope that "?" makes it onto Yahtzee's Worst 5 list this year just so he can gleefully be like "Yes, it was [Insert Game Name Here] all along!"
Do you mean he days the actual name, or he literally says, "Insert Game Title Here"?
Well would you look at that. That's EXACTLY what happened. Way to go, past me!
@@strain42"with great power comes great responsibility"
Funnily enough, thanks to Yahtzee saying that CZcams won’t let him say the F word without demonetising him, until he mentioned the embargo I thought the second game’s name was literally a swear word.
I miss the exceedingly small window of time when Review Embargo meant "please don't spoil people" instead of meaning "We know our game is absolute shit after the 2 hour mark but we're gonna try and trick as many of you fools as possible before word from the influencers get out."
Knowing how skillful yahtz is with the english vocabulary i know he will find ways around any youtube user guideline.
Damnit, it checks all the boxes.... our only hope now is to cling to the fact he didnt mention the art style, and hope that mean he's talking about a more generic looking game
some creators I watch have figured out that you can't use swears or drop the f bomb in the first minute to minute and a half of a video, but after you're free, but I can not confirm the veracity for I am not a monetized channel lol
Not just around guidelines but his insult game is frighteningly worse than swearing
He did. He hid them behind a paywall.
@@brotherdaniel1524yes but he said up my @$$ at the end uncensored so I guess they don’t check the end
I find it hilarious and impressive that Yahtzee’s review style allows him to review an entire game he’s not allowed to review yet with just a few convenient censors
I doubt he'd call them convenient
...Am I weird for thinking the game was literally called "Question Mark?" XD
In this day and age? No. Hell, some indie game might come out tomorrow with the name of "?".
haha naaah, i even expected him to rag on it's name for the entire thing.
@@damianbennett1214"This is worse than that time some chump named his game 'The Letter V Six Times!'"
Also thought this, I was already bitching about "I would give my game a name you can relatively easily find on the Internet".
Some semi-abstract detective game were you have to build the world from complete grayness to fully built vibrant place to understand the situation
honestly if the censored words were played faster, it would fit in better
Craig Ferguson style
@@prointernetuserdamn I miss good late night tv
gotta hammer it in so youtube will notice the change
The fact they don't fit in is the joke.
That’s how he gets ya the slowness demands my money lol
Post-modernist video game criticism right there, it's just like jazz, "it's all about the notes you DON'T play"
Pac-man having a Vietnam flashback is my favorite joke you’ve made in years
Same. I had to pause and rewind just to enjoy it properly before moving on.
You gotta love when a major IP tie in game has its journalist embargo extended for an extra week just so they can try to save face.
Pro tip: you will not be saving face.
Narrator: "Face was not saved"
If the game is as bad as Yahtzee says, it's not about saving face. It's about getting as many Day One sales as possible before the reviews become common knowledge.
@@jasonblalock4429yes that's the reason they care about face being saved you have cracked the code
I'm just waiting for the official response to be something like, "We're still working on patches that will address most of the potential criticisms, and we don't want reviews to reflect this unpatched version of the game." Not that it'll help with the whole "saving of faces" thing, of course.
Honestly, with the way some indie games feel these days, it was completely believable that a game could be titled "?", call itself deep or avant-garde, and criticize the audience for not getting it.
Before he said that it was because it was embargoed, I legit thought it was some pretentious artsy indie game called ?
The game being redacted is probably the kindest thing that could have happened too it.
Yo, I'm sorry but I need to vent to someone that I just really love my girlfriend bro. She's so sweet and kind and intelligent. She has an answer for just about anything I could ever want to know.
@@backupschmliff1156 Go tell her that dude
@@backupschmliff1156 Is your "girlfriend" in the room with us right now?
It could've also not been reviewed by Yahtzee.
@backupschmliff1156 Thats not a vent. And considering youre too stupid to know what a vent is, I doubt she'll be your girlfriend for long so cherish the moment.
I'm 99% sure the other game is Hellboy: Web of Wyrd.
Or Lords of the Fallen. The "shitty 1 -2 enemies with same attacks, and etc" Insultingly easy. Bad kind of repetative..."
But you're probably right.
God, it seems nowadays Hellboy can't catch a brea
@@OB.x LotF isn't a roguelike which is the genre specified at the start, plus from what I've seen that sentence doesn't really apply to it either but I guess we'll find out in a day or two.
After mentioning the combat being largely depending on punching the other chaps in the face and being too easy (I mean, if IGN calls a game in their preview "easy", it must be appropriate for toddlers as a lullaby), I feel you're quite right. And being scheduled for OCT 18th release, it can perfectly still be under the embargo.
Shame, this IP is really getting a super short stick recently...
@@SuperNeilAdams Yeah was trying to think of it without googling it or anything. I was wrong lol. The only game I could think of is this game, because the previous was so boring and repetative to me. I thought did they make it a rougelike?
im pretty sure the seacond game that yahtzee is reviewing here is the new hellboy game, hellboy web of wyrd
Yep, that looks like it's the one.
I'd forgotten that was coming out. Shame that franchise hasn't had much success with adaptions.
@@l0stndamnedHas it really had any besides the first movie by Guillermo del Toro? Genuine question here given all the other adaptations I know, including _?_ possibly, seem terrible.
@@MusicoftheDamned I quite like the second del Toro film too (not as good as the first, but still watchable). I was more thinking that there's a load of game ideas that could be made with this IP but companies keep failing.
@@l0stndamned Ah, got you. Yeah, I didn't know if the series has had any good games since I'm not really a fan of the series despite liking the 2004 film. Sounds like it still hasn't though. Shame.
I believe the mystery game is Hellboy Web of Wyrd, it's a beat em up rouge like with an IP attached to it. That's my best guess anyway
tragic if so, visually at least it looked pretty good
We live in a timeline were Yahtzee’s swears are now a DLC. Thanks EA!
Player first!
An equivalent of Blood Pack from the Total War series, I suppose
Yahtzee is a good reviewer because whether you agree with him or not he perfectly summarizes what its like to play a game without showing the gameplay or in this case even revealing what the game is
Im so happy for Yahtzees Editor, I can only imagine the pay increase was lovely.
Considering Yahtz is his own editor for ZP and is probably the highest paid employee behind Nick, yes
Yahtzee said he enjoyed making the funny censor word voices.
If it is what I think it is... Poor Big Red, another letdown for his franchise.
And this is one of Lance Reddick's last performances. A double bummer.
What game is it?
@@clamsalot2214 It may be "Hellboy: Web of Wyrd" ;-)
My fear as well, but the lack of gameplay footage wasn't promising
@@clamsalot2214 Silksong
For other people from the future who are curious, the Myster game is Hellboy Web of Wyrd
Moving the embargo turned this from a game review into a work of modern art
Always nice to see Yatzee enjoy a game. El Paso Elsewere sounds a little self-indulgent, but the fact Yatzee gave it high marks for it's ernestness and sincerity (my favorite yet elusive quality in any medium) makes me wanna check it out.
I mean, if you’re gonna be self indulgent, you should at least be fun at the same time. Being genuinely fun to play seems so rare in mainstream games these days that honestly, they deserve a bit of self indulgence. At least they’re indulging something tasty
@emilybarclay8831 excellent way to put it boss.
A+ to whomever handled the captioning on this one
Web of wyrd is out now. I eagerly await the uncensorred review.
I was unprepared for Yhatzee to get that close to the mic, weirdly not in a bad way.
Imagining AC6 as a Hades-like is an... interesting thought experiment
War crimes galore, now with MINORS just as Sundowner intended
its most likely hellboy: web of wyrd, not ac6
...in a very loose sense, it kind of is, though, isn't it? Inasmuch as the progression depends on incremental upgrades and equipment which are earned and retained from previous runs?
(I might be wrong about this. Honestly, I'd never even heard of the series until WritingonGames mentioned it a few months back. No idea how it managed to fly under my radar all these years, but here we are.)
@@Thrillhou Nah, AC6 is a mission based 3rd person action shooter. Death simply means restarting at a checkpoint or at worst restarting the mission. Nothing is randomized either. Upgrades are bought with cash earned in missions.
@CycFlame fair points! My mistake. The randomness up upgrades is something I hadn't taken into account at all, but I'm glad you brought it up. Much appreciated.
Any guesses on what the second game is? It seems like they pushed back the embargo date so people wouldn't have as much time to see how shit the game is.
I’m really curious. It sounds like a licensed game, since Yahtz mentions IP.
other comments suggest hellboy web of wyrd, which makes sense cause he mentioned that it's an established franchise already
I think it is about a red demon... 👀
It’s a roguelike releasing right around now, based on an existing IP. With a fantasy theme, and a focus of melee combat.
My biggest fear is that it might be Hellboy: Web of Wyrd.
@@tnarwhal 3rd person camera beat 'em up, licensed game, not quite out yet, rogue-like, even the flimsy context provided by the credits gag? I think this might be the winner.
I may have died laughing when you described the voiceovers for El Paso Elsewhere.
I may now be a ghost.
v spooky 🥹
went to the steam page to watch a trailer and died right there with you
To be fair, Max Payne did very much the same thing. Not to say the voice was exactly the same, but both the voice and dialogue were very intentionally overdone, and the voiceover monologues were absolutely rubbing your face in it.
I wonder if they’re going to Re-upload this review once the embargo date is up for leave it hanging out of spite.
Honestly this is a perfect pilot for a series where Yahtzee gives him unabridged uncut unfiltered opinion on something that sounds exactly like it usually does, except I have no visual for what it is and can simply pretend it to be something I don't like.
I honestly thought a game came out literally called ? and I was so eager to hear Yahtzee just tear it apart for the name alone.
"Like Pacman having a NAM flashback"
...I didn't know i needed to hear that line today, but I'm happy i did.
How can you move _up_ an embargo date? Aren't those set well ahead of time? Isn't that a contract thing? Did they really give themselves the option to change the embargo date??
I takes a truly talented and skillful comedian and journalist to still making a funny and informative video while stuck with censorships of this level. This is one of the most hilarious videos Yahtzee has done and it STILL explains the strengths and weaknesses of both titles. Bravo!
After careful analysis, I have concluded that the mystery game is _Half-Life 3._
Oh sweet Christ it's the Hellboy game, isn't it? Oh no, I was hoping that'd be good
I made the mistake of watching a Hellboy movie once. Never again.
@@iambicpentakill blasphemy, the two del toro Hellboy movies are great
Between the ASMR ear-bleed and the comprehensive review of ?, this video was incredible. More than 15 years later, he's still making us cackle like mad things.
At first I'd assumed the ? in the title was because the second game had too many bad words in the name for youtube to allow it in a title.
Same. I thought it was going to be a _Hell Pie_ situation where he excoriated something for being too edgy in its style to its own detriment. Somehow the embargo reason is worse.
It's kind of a fun gimmick to see if the game being reviewed can be identified without any of the specifics that would make it obvious. Wouldn't want to see it all the time, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Here’s an idea for you Yahtzee:
Put ? at the very bottom of the Bottom 5 and just keep it mysterious. That way, you’ll have the perfect opportunity to deploy this line:
“Some of you already figured out which game the question mark was referring to, you clever little viewer you! The rest of you I’m guessing either didn’t even know that this game existed or didn’t care!”
Is that the same Xalavier who made the now infamous tweet about Baldurs Gate 3 that spawned a multi-week shitstorm?
At least he's getting his wish: no one's going to be comparing this to BG3
That was the funniest episode of ZP in years, I am wheezing.
As a consolation, Yahtzee is gonna be brutal towards Hellboy: Web of Wyrd during 2023's 5 worst
I just want the censor to be equally funny as the swear.
@@negativezero8174 I think 30+-year-olds can handle it.
@Solastique tell that to CZcams. I'm not advocating the censoring, but also know i can't change the decision. So I can only hope Yatz censors himself in a way that's equally comedic.
@negativezero8174 bro I'm in my late 20's XD.
@@negativezero8174 Thank you for the advice I will stop saying the fuck word
@@TheRedneckRoman16 I've always been bad at guessing ages, especially since people of all ages love MLP. xD
? is almost certainly the Hellboy game. "Over the shoulder punching" is exactly how the trailer for it looks like
Anyone got a clue what the censored game could be?
likely hellboy web of wyrd
battletoads
Honestly, if it was possible, going back through all the old ZPs and making them redacted like the second game in this one would be really funny
So, when/if the embargo lifts, do we get a director's cut but still leave this version up for posterity's sake/to show off probably one of the scummiest business moves of the year?
The unnamed game was Yahtzee 3rd worst game of 2023 on the Second Wind CZcams channel. Irony of Yahtzee went from had to censor the title of the game to censor the title of Zero Punctuation.
... You know, I always thought that "The Escapists" had the uncensored version in their Patreon due to CZcams censorship.
Game #2 is 100% that new Hellboy game.
A lot of really funny edits and stuff I had never need on ZP before after watching every episode, great video as always
Damn. I was excited for Hellboy Web of Wyrd
CZcams has finally started nibbling at your heels Yahtzee.
I think the there's potential in having us play a guessing game every time you have to censor the game you're reviewing. Like first person to guess right gets a prize or something lol
The phrase “embargo date has been moved” has an air of “oh ye gods! we left the oven on too long” about it so they’re quickly filing down the fucky bits before release
Among many other reasons, this is why I still watch ZP Reviews, seeing just how can Yahtz make an episode fresh and interesting.
First it was Wolfensteins Limericks
Then it was Dark Souls's James Bond cover up in Sekiro.
And now it's like a literal guessing game.
Delightful and insightful as always Yahtz and the eSCAPIST crew 🎉.
The censored game is Hellboy Web of Weird
Thanks for that, I was wondering.
Okay, but can we have a version of this with the mystery game named now? Some people are saying it's Hellboy but that seems to be reviewing generally positively on Steam, and I have a feeling it's the King Kong game that just released.
It for sure is the Hellboy game, if you check the 3 minute review done by someone else, gheh mention that the Embargo for the hellboy game was pushed back
Im pretty sure its Hellboy
Are you sure this is not just Yahtzee liking specific mystery/ detective games so much that it bleeds through into a Zero Punctuation episode, pushing us to deduce and solve the identity of the mystery game?
The redacted sections are hilarious. You should totally do more of those!
"It's like Pac-Man having a Vietnam flashback" is an amazing description hahaha.
man this turned out funnier somehow with how they censored themselves
Wow what a savage takedown of Super Mario Bros. Wonder
its the new hellboy game
I didn’t know that was a thing. Thank you.
lmao i love trying to figure out what game 2 is
EDIT: OH. OH NO
Before watching this video, I legitimately though the game's title was "?".
Living in El Paso I was excited seeing the title. Then I saw the video and still laughed and enjoyed it 😂 I can see how people may want you to give us a preview of your next review and a censored form. But that’s too much work. Definitely another great video.!
...Wait that's Hellboy Web of Wyrd, isn't it.
Who has any idea what the mystery game is? It's gotta be a game that's know. To be releasing soon but isn't out yet and with no reviews either as of Oct 11. It also has to be a roguelike with well known enough IP.
hellboy web of wyrd fits those categories i believe
ZP with microtransactions.... we truly are living in a dystopia
"Guess the reviewed game with all identifiers removed" is a surprisingly fun game
4:45 god I can only imagine EA as a youtube channel making videos that are partially censored unless you pay them more money.. (to unlock the actual content of the video)
This format could be our new guess the game 🤣
Now this is a revolutionary development in narrative presentation.
4:34 love the captions having the protagonist replaced with other Escapist writers
I'm pretty sure that second game is Hellboy: Web of Wyrd.
I like RTGame's way of just replacing swears with "CZcams"
Didn't ZP do it first with the review of Void Bastards and something else I forgot?
The editing of second half ended up being gold 😂
Honestly i would like to see a segment where where Yahtzee does these style of reviews where we guess what game he is reviewing through his dialogu
Ok we NEED an extra punctuation on the story of "?" and the Embargo. This story sounds juicy.
I love how the second part of the review unintentionally sounded like a silent Hill review
The closed captions are also cute. As the redacted names have been replaced. In one case there was (Jack Packard?)