Episode10 - Mining for Thunder - Crafting Mammoth Distorted Bass Tones

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2020
  • Ken shares techniques on creating Distorted Bass Tones using the song Distorted Fields as an example.
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  • @xxxNICHOLIxxx
    @xxxNICHOLIxxx Před 4 lety +65

    Ken, I would pay serious money to watch you record, mix and master a song from start to finish.

  • @adamwasthefirstman
    @adamwasthefirstman Před 4 lety +30

    Do whatever you can to monetize these videos! This is the world we live in and there should be no judgement about it. Your content has all been super helpful and direct. There's really nothing else like it and despite the fact I've mostly moved back to tracking with pedals and amps, the ideas still apply and there's no reason not to take advantage of all the amazing tools out there. Seriously, I get really excited every time you put out new content. Thank you!

    • @KenAndrewsMusic
      @KenAndrewsMusic  Před 4 lety +7

      Thank you for this comment and I absolutely agree with you that pretty much everything I talk about is applicable to analog and digital workflows.

  • @king_weapon
    @king_weapon Před 4 lety +13

    FAILURE is 100% the reason I’ve ever even tried using distortion on the bass. Nothing beats those bass tones... from “Comfort” to “In the Future...”. Stay safe gents and thx for all the sounds ...❤️

  • @davidfernandez2627
    @davidfernandez2627 Před 4 lety +65

    Among other things, you are a touring musician who cannot tour right now. Don’t feel guilty. Sell me stuff and keep the videos coming.

  • @vonapathy
    @vonapathy Před 4 lety +26

    Brutal! The synth bass is a kick in the teeth, hearing it isolated and then combined is like stumbling into gravity well; that's some heavy stuff. 🤯🔥👏

  • @mrhobs
    @mrhobs Před 4 lety +5

    Humble request for future video. Some in-depth stuff about what it took to produce Failure 1992-1996.
    Every aspect of production would be interesting to me (you told me once about getting the original layout artist involved), especially what all was done with Fantastic Planet.
    The more the better, but could just be a short video too.
    Glad to see you’re doing well, and still cranking out great content!
    - Michael R

  • @gamby16a
    @gamby16a Před 4 lety +5

    It's still such a signature Failure bass sound. Super distinct. Fascinating to see how you got it there.

  • @LeonTodd
    @LeonTodd Před 4 lety +6

    Get. In. Me.
    Update - every bit as good as I expected. Mammoth indeed.

  • @Basementalchemymusic
    @Basementalchemymusic Před 3 lety +2

    DUUUUUUUUUUDE, PLEASE UPLOAD VIDEOS MORE OFTEN. pretty please and thank you.

  • @andrewmagnotta2930
    @andrewmagnotta2930 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks, Ken! I am a bassist who primarily uses AxeFX. I've been wrestling with my tone a lot recently, so this video was eerily well-timed! I appreciate it very much!

  • @mattastic247
    @mattastic247 Před 4 lety +2

    That Duncan Quarter Pounder pickup is a huge factor for this tone as well. Such a great sounding pickup. I have one in both of my P Basses.

  • @chrissybot0.148
    @chrissybot0.148 Před rokem

    Such a great series. Dusted off my bass to learn and play along sans effects, and realizing I need a pedal or something to get anywhere near this kind of tone!

  • @FoxUncleCharlieKing
    @FoxUncleCharlieKing Před 2 lety

    Catching up to these. What a great episode.

  • @ebbeeriksson2243
    @ebbeeriksson2243 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing! Thank you Ken!

  • @SirThirdFilms
    @SirThirdFilms Před 4 lety +4

    This is my favorite channel. Even though I don't use Pro Tools or Fractal this video, as well as every other episode, totally gets my creativity going(both musically and visually(film makerly...?) and this is an invaluable resource for people who make art. Just pure awesome stuff. Keep up the great work.

  • @jaysonscott187
    @jaysonscott187 Před 4 lety +1

    I usually dont understand the majority of what you discuss, but im a fan of all your work and its really interesting to see you at work. Thanks Ken!

  • @Momiyama808
    @Momiyama808 Před 4 lety +1

    This was awesome Ken. Thank you.

  • @OtaconNachos
    @OtaconNachos Před 4 lety +1

    Missed these videos! Thanks for keeping up with them!

  • @adamcontreras9710
    @adamcontreras9710 Před 4 lety +1

    Happy to see you’re back!

  • @joconnorwi
    @joconnorwi Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you Ken! Good stuff!

  • @disinfor
    @disinfor Před 4 lety +1

    Hell yes. This is one of the episodes I've been waiting for. Thank you!

  • @JanPanCygan
    @JanPanCygan Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant sound, riff and song

  • @JadeWestTristan
    @JadeWestTristan Před 4 lety +26

    i miss you can you also do some stuff like this but with singing techniques or something like that

    • @KenAndrewsMusic
      @KenAndrewsMusic  Před 4 lety +11

      I guess i could do an episode on vocal mic techniques and recording, etc. I just don't consider myself very knowledgeable at all about singing in and of itself. I think I do a lot of things wrong!

    • @JadeWestTristan
      @JadeWestTristan Před 4 lety +6

      @@KenAndrewsMusic thank you I would love that. I love your voice so much is so dreamy.

    • @robertreynolds9961
      @robertreynolds9961 Před 4 lety +1

      Your voice is still freakin awesome tho...i consider it in my top 3... I don't really like whats considered proper singing... I like character...you can tell yiur vocals are true and real... Not melodyned to death and completely stripped of its character... The vocals are definitely not a weak element in failure...

    • @JussiKauppila
      @JussiKauppila Před 3 lety +1

      @@KenAndrewsMusic This! Would love to hear any thoughts how you approach vocals in any project, or mixing or anything related :) Even about the "wrong singing technique things" because it sounds awesome. Does help that Failure has great songwriting so you don't have to do any vocal acrobatics to "disguise" bad songs :) On that note, video about thoughts on songwriting would be interesting :D

  • @creativeheadroom
    @creativeheadroom Před 4 lety +1

    I was curious about this song/tone. Thanks for the great video!

  • @Fu_kTheZeitgeist
    @Fu_kTheZeitgeist Před 4 lety +2

    What a tone and what a riff.

  • @mikepittman6862
    @mikepittman6862 Před 3 lety +1

    As a bass player who has been searching for this type of dynamic MASSIVE driven bass tone since the early 90's, this SINGLE video nearly summed up everything I have been trying to make happen. Thank you Ken. Longtime fan and REALLY dig the informative stuff you are putting into this channel. By all means MONETIZE away! I am sure it feel like someone put a big wall between your and and a payday. We can't wait for more music but these classes/videos will do for now. Thanks for doing what you do. The latest album is a masterpiece.

  • @thequalityofmercury945
    @thequalityofmercury945 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great video. Thanks!

  • @manowire5403
    @manowire5403 Před 2 lety

    Such high quality information.... Incredible!!! Thanks for all you do for us on CZcams

  • @jppcreative
    @jppcreative Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this! Looking forward to the offers in the next episodes.

  • @patrickhanser7235
    @patrickhanser7235 Před 3 lety

    Ken please keep making these videos! They're so inspiring!!

  • @bzadlo
    @bzadlo Před 2 lety

    That bass tone is soooo sick! I now follow you.

  • @catharsisecho
    @catharsisecho Před 4 lety +2

    Love the synth bass. These days Steinberg's Halion 6 has become my Fractal equivalent for synth work. It feels like an inflection point has been reached where software is good enough to be "played" rather than "planned."

  • @brighambobrich
    @brighambobrich Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @joeyt5427
    @joeyt5427 Před 3 lety

    I love these videos dude. You’re a huge inspiration to me, and being new to recording these are really insightful. Thank you!

  • @englishiowa
    @englishiowa Před 3 lety

    Humble request for a future video...would love to get a peek at your typical mix bus or any other mixing tips. Not that you’d give away your secret spice, but I’d be down to sponge up any advice you’ve got. ☺️

  • @corycourtney8923
    @corycourtney8923 Před 4 lety +1

    I am so grateful for you and your videos. Whatever you need to do to keep this going is absolutely fine.

  • @westonmohr374
    @westonmohr374 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing as always!!! Love ya Ken!

  • @RimShot_Studio
    @RimShot_Studio Před 4 lety +1

    My day gets a just a litte brighter with each of your videos. Thank you!

  • @charlieorcharles
    @charlieorcharles Před 3 lety

    Amazing video! Love the idea of creating the patch straight into the DAW/Live.

  • @jadew.6786
    @jadew.6786 Před 3 lety

    Your videos are informative and helpful. Thank you Professor Andrews 🤗❤🤗❤🤗

  • @kevindietz6470
    @kevindietz6470 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for this video! Crafting some big distorted bass presets has been on my list of things to do, have some great new ideas now.

  • @squattermelon.
    @squattermelon. Před 2 lety

    Woah, Ken is so magical his bass guitar just floats in the air

  • @richardroberson2564
    @richardroberson2564 Před 4 lety +2

    This is amazing. Thank you.

  • @karakrakora
    @karakrakora Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for the wealth of information and tips!!! Soooooo many possibilities, nice to know some good places to start! Keep 'em coming, the purchase options aren't a nuisance! 😜
    Glad to hear everyone's healthy, including Kellii! ♥️🤘♥️

  • @KellyRudiger
    @KellyRudiger Před 4 lety +1

    Cool seeing you do what you love.

  • @DeadPerspective
    @DeadPerspective Před 4 lety +1

    Another quality vid! Probably my favourite song off the latest album. The first time I heard it, it brought me back to '99-'00.

  • @leonbingel1340
    @leonbingel1340 Před 4 lety

    I appreciate these videos so much ken... love ya

  • @audiopropaganda5992
    @audiopropaganda5992 Před 4 lety +1

    I’m so happy that He is doing well! You guys are one of my favorite bands and I am thankful for your help with music!

  • @ozzfan458
    @ozzfan458 Před 4 lety

    Ken this is all we ever asked for! Thank you so much homie!!

  • @causticmedia3621
    @causticmedia3621 Před 4 lety +4

    Monster Bass sound, great song too.

  • @r.pratherray1364
    @r.pratherray1364 Před 4 lety +1

    Great news about Kelly and welcome back!!!

  • @kmensign
    @kmensign Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for this Ken. I've been a big fan since the 90s in LA. I never would have imagined that I'd get the chance to learn from you. This lesson was brilliant and extremely helpful. Again, thanks!

  • @TheGonzeaux
    @TheGonzeaux Před 4 lety +2

    Every time you talk about the Fractal it makes me drool a little. Such flexibility in a little box.
    Thanks for the video, Ken. Glad y'all are all safe and healthy. I'm quite interested in the gear recommendations/promos, actually -- been putting together my home studio and diving headfirst into learning how to record and mix properly. And I'm finding myself rewatching your earlier videos so I can fully digest everything. Looking forward to learning more.

  • @TrueFallacy
    @TrueFallacy Před 3 lety

    So awesome, my takeaway from this is that layering bass sounds, like the Bass Gtr + String layer in Heliotropic and the Bass Gtr + Synth layer in this, can achieve a super phat bass tone, that doesn’t compensate low end, but adds ton of BITE (distortion, harmonics) to the sound, edgy as fudge, 90s, all my favorite stuff. Your work here is invaluable, inspirational, thanks a mil Ken.
    And I welcome ways to support the channel and the band during this crazy time!! I’m about to spring and get the 90s albums on digital here pretty soon, can’t wait to re-live those!

  • @themanwhostolethetone
    @themanwhostolethetone Před 3 lety

    great tone !

  • @asmokingumbrella
    @asmokingumbrella Před 4 lety +1

    Damn, that sound is huge!

  • @jacoj1
    @jacoj1 Před 4 lety +1

    I waiting so long for this episode and it was worth it. Great job at explaining the source of your distortion; could’ve fooled me you were using a stomp box lol.

  • @395PRS
    @395PRS Před 3 lety

    Couldn't click on this channel fast enough!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't know you had your own channel. Awesome!

  • @DesertCompanion
    @DesertCompanion Před 4 lety

    Looks like I have a date with my axe fx tomorrow! Great content as always Ken. Thanks for hooking us up!

  • @zedShep
    @zedShep Před 4 lety +1

    With my previous death metal band I used to always think that I needed some distortion or overdrive pedals to get that mammoth sound, despite playing through a Mesa M-Pulse and a Bassman 4x10. I was new to running that big of an amp and it was my guitarists rig, so I ran off his recommendations, which always seemed to limit me. That and the entire EQ channel was apparently shot. After trying pedals, it only made it weaker, so I just started cranking it up higher at shows so I could actually hear and feel it, on top of running heavier guage and installing a Seymour Duncan 1/4 PJ set. Now out of that band, not playing any shows, and working on building up my own studio. You're videos are a tremendous help and inspiration to get this setup rolling, I'm happy to see you back in this fold and to hear despite the chaos these days that everyone in your camp is healthy. I look forward to whats to come!

  • @subdudebass7687
    @subdudebass7687 Před 3 lety

    You are the master.🖖

  • @Eggbertman2001
    @Eggbertman2001 Před 4 lety +1

    ohhh thank you soooo much this made my day

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant!, I used a pro-co RAT into either my ashdown bass head or a mesa 400 kemper profile for a good while, like you said the pedal cuts off the low end and you gotta make it up which doesn't always work too well. I don't have an axe fx but looks really good, the closest to this sound I've got is German producer Kristian Kohle's Bass profile I bought for the Kemper profiling amp which is a guitar amp run into an ampeg cab miced with an Sm7b blended with something. so it has amp drive and all the low end in the right places so I don't have to mess around too much in the mix. which is great and jives with your ethos on bass tone here.

  • @megirez
    @megirez Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for showing us not only Secrets Of The Lost Satellite in the past, but also secrets of the cool and intense bass tones in the present.
    Distorted Fields blew my mind strongly & became one of my favorite songs of all time when I listened to the very first sound for the first time.
    I'm surprised that you don't use any drive stomps. I've enjoyed the bass tones with RAT or Big Muff (by only Greg or both of you?) in the 90s but I'm also into the new tones!

  • @johngentertainment1141

    Thanks for this video, I will try to replicate this on my FM3. Song has kind of a Porcupine Tree vibe to it!!!

  • @cgraugaard
    @cgraugaard Před 4 lety +1

    Love it. Makes me think of Wolfmother even though that's a distorted organ

  • @zachromanoff3933
    @zachromanoff3933 Před 3 lety

    It’s been a hot minute, I hope you and yours are well and happy.

  • @denverrandy7143
    @denverrandy7143 Před 3 lety

    Wouldn't it be great if two Awesome Bands like Failure and Hum took on a tour together when we are blessed to have such things. God bless Kelli I'm glad he is recovering well.keep killing it Ken.Sincerely,Randy

    • @michaelbent129
      @michaelbent129 Před 3 lety

      They did that in 2015 or 16.... it was amazing!

  • @boglot
    @boglot Před 4 lety +1

    Crazy timing on this one. I was literally just using Stuck On You as a reference for a song I’m mixing, specifically the bass guitar and snare

  • @therudeawakening51
    @therudeawakening51 Před 4 lety +1

    If you're going to do a video on mammoth bass tones, "Distorted Fields" is just about the best example out there 🤘

  • @ericschlotzer1670
    @ericschlotzer1670 Před 3 lety

    Love your channel. Similar arc to what you described in the Gibson "Behind the Boards" Interview - I started with a handful of records- 80's pop and metal (for me it was the "Columbia Record and Tape club" twelve cassettes for a penny) and then fell into The Cure's back catalog at 13 years old... never again able to listen to music without picking it apart completely to figure out what makes those recordings "tick." More content please!!!

  • @bularecordz
    @bularecordz Před 3 lety

    Wow, never thought of cranking up the output volumer, I always headed for cranking gain. Now I need to try it somewhere in my recordings!

  • @miketreadwell3640
    @miketreadwell3640 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, I never even thought about adding synth bass to an actual bass. That is brilliant! Also note, I'm new at recording lol

  • @themountainradio
    @themountainradio Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for your videos. Some real gold in there. Please do a video on how you got that amazing drum sound in the intro song :)

  • @tysher7353
    @tysher7353 Před 2 lety

    Damn I'm a year late🙃 but this is priceless. Been searching bass forums when I could've come straight to the source! THANK YOU!

  • @asifasgar6871
    @asifasgar6871 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH Před rokem

    Got the Axe fx III last weekend. it's wild!

  • @marshalsea000
    @marshalsea000 Před 3 lety +1

    Once Kellii is upto it again, chuck out some of the band stuff who are doing Zoom gigs.
    Would happily pay to watch you guys perform live online.

  • @catharsisecho
    @catharsisecho Před 3 lety

    Hey Ken. Hope you and yours are still doing well. I've been reading the book "Failure Is Not An Option" by Gene Kranz this weekend, and it occurred to me that you might enjoy the book if you have some down time. Kranz was a flight controller for NASA during the initial Mercury missions through the Apollo program. If you remember the film "Apollo 13," Kranz was played by Ed Harris. The book is a memoir of the very beginning of US spaceflight, and is pretty fascinating in that it highlights how almost ridiculously lo-fi the early missions were, and how amazing it is that we made it to space at all.
    Kranz's main job during the Mercury missions was to draft the definitive procedure and troubleshooting manuals for missions: a pretty amazing task considering the difficulty of writing these documents relating to events that have never been done before.
    Anyway, reading the book has gotten me thinking about a sort of "theory" of troubleshooting; a way that one can find a solution to a problem in the least amount of steps. It occurs to me that whatever time I get to spend doing home recording these days, at least some of that time is spent troubleshooting some element or other. Especially everything taking place in the box, since software is so much less intuitive to troubleshoot than hardware components.
    Do you have any general procedures you use for troubleshooting when recording or mixing? Or perhaps when some track responds to processing in an unexpected way?
    Sorry for the lengthy comment. At the very least, the book is well-worth the price of admission, imo.

  • @Stakaline
    @Stakaline Před 3 měsíci

    Damn this is good

  • @DouglasComical
    @DouglasComical Před 3 lety +1

    Check out the Tronographic Rusty Box. Get’s a great overdriven/distorted bass sound. It’s based on a Traynor TS50b amp used a lot by Steve Albini, especially by the bassist in his band Shellac

  • @thechrisricci
    @thechrisricci Před 4 lety +1

    Wow! Thanks for doing this. The first time I heard "Distorted Fields" all I could think was, "How the hell did they get that bass sound?"

  • @Skoora
    @Skoora Před 4 lety +1

    Depending what the amp block is emulating, cranking the Master is probably emulating the Phase Inverter distorting, more so than actual power tube distortion.

  • @NapoleonBlownapartMMA
    @NapoleonBlownapartMMA Před 4 lety +1

    Bring back the Wal Bass!!!!!

  • @oronyahalom
    @oronyahalom Před 4 lety +2

    I'd love to see an analysis of secret things

  • @corygraham601
    @corygraham601 Před 4 lety

    Epic Ken! Always wondered how you got that bass tone

  • @artbyjs
    @artbyjs Před 3 lety

    Hey Ken! first off, thank you and the guys for all the amazing music. Including YOTR and the others. You are a music hero of mine. Thanks so much for sharing this stuff with fellow music and hear heads like me =)
    I have very little mixing experience at all - but I especially struggle with what frequencies to push or pull out of instrument tracks to get the wall of sound vibe, a synth or lead to cut through a mix, vocals, really layered tracks like with some Oasis songs - but ESPECIALLY punchy drums. I do everything except play drums so I have no frame of reference whatsoever to mix it. Could you do a video on drums, and maybe later on some vids for the other things I mentioned? Maybe some comparisons between different EQ styles for reference? I think it would be really amazing as a staring reference point. Thanks man, looking forward to seeing you live again! (I saw you twice, most recently at Warsaw in Brooklyn!

  • @stealthfighter2923
    @stealthfighter2923 Před 4 lety +1

    Prayers for Kelly.

  • @pavelkazantsev3771
    @pavelkazantsev3771 Před 4 lety

    Thank you, mr. Andrews! Could we perhaps get a peek in the sound design of that synth bass patch?

  • @he11bent6
    @he11bent6 Před 4 lety +19

    Have you heard the new HUM??!

  • @robertreynolds9961
    @robertreynolds9961 Před 3 lety

    Need more videos please!

  • @Wolfdragon92584
    @Wolfdragon92584 Před 3 lety

    I play with flatwound strings; I hope I can get em this damn powerful sounding!

  • @SeanMRoberts
    @SeanMRoberts Před 4 lety +2

    It would be interesting to have Greg on to see differences in how the two of you might build a patch.

    • @KenAndrewsMusic
      @KenAndrewsMusic  Před 4 lety +10

      You know, Greg doesn't really get into programming the Fractal himself. Instead, he just describes what he wants, or maybe plays me an example, and then I try and build it for him. Neither of us have the patience to watch the other do something slower than we could. That goes for playing parts as well. Many times, one us of will come up with the basics of a part, only to hand it off to other because you know they can actually play it better and faster. I'm just faster on the fractal because I spent more time with it. And honestly its kind of a cool thing for us to do it this way with the fractal because greg isn't bogged down with the technical process, he is free to use his imagination more when thinking about what kind of tone he wants and I like that. its a nice challenge for me as well.

    • @SeanMRoberts
      @SeanMRoberts Před 4 lety +1

      @@KenAndrewsMusic That sounds like a great way to work, and shows a strong level of trust. Thanks for sharing!

  • @vimana17
    @vimana17 Před 4 lety +1

    F A N T A S T I C !

  • @finbeard
    @finbeard Před 3 lety

    "you can actually go past 100% and go SUPER wide"
    so... it goes to 11? great video, Ken!

  • @simonkean5251
    @simonkean5251 Před 4 lety

    Great work as always Ken. I just watched all 10 videos again yesterday while also constructing bass tones. Great inspiring lockdown content. What's on your mixbuss these days, I see you've migrated to using IK stuff??

  • @nongrataaz
    @nongrataaz Před 11 měsíci

    humbling.

  • @billyhughes9776
    @billyhughes9776 Před 4 lety

    The last few times I've watched your vids,....and you feature or use the Axe FX -- it's pushing me closer man. The bass tone is just fantastic.

    • @KenAndrewsMusic
      @KenAndrewsMusic  Před 4 lety +1

      One of the most valuable things about the axe and modellers in general is that you can create virtual versions of analog rigs that would be incredibly loud and difficult to deal with even in the best pro studios, let alone a home studio environment. I mean try hooking up 14 speakers 93 cabs) to an SVT head on 7-8 volume. The SPL is crazy and because its low freq, it goes right thru walls.

    • @billyhughes9776
      @billyhughes9776 Před 4 lety

      @@KenAndrewsMusic Thanks for the reply Ken -- I am seriously considering for flexibility, ease and recall. Also, my recording space is limited -- but,...I'm fortunate to have any.

  • @KillerPartySD
    @KillerPartySD Před 4 lety

    Loving the episodes. Any plans on giving some advice on creating space and separation in mixes and where different instruments sit in the frequency spectrum?

  • @robertreynolds9961
    @robertreynolds9961 Před 3 lety

    We need a new video my man