INAROS PRIME REWORK BUILD & REVIEW | Warframe
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- A bit disappointing in some areas but Inaros is MUCH better overall
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00:00 Build & Sim
15:30 Steel Path Test - Hry
DE: "Let's nerf the spin to win meta."
Also DE: *SEE ABOVE VIDEO*
DE under Reb's control seem to have problem with "fun" so maybe this is intended
This is function over form. I doubt this was their intended design vision. I expect they wanted his 4 to be a cool spreading CC and armour stripper and his 2 to be a burst heal and grouping tool. I don’t think they intended players to just spin through the mission like the cartoon Tasmanian Devil 🤣
It really feels like they intended for you to group up enemies with his 2 then pop his 4 on them to strip their armor
pair it with sickening pulse, 2 green shards, and he can just nuke a tile sets armor and blast them with status from elemental sandstorm@@Alivair
It's not perfect but he feels 100x better than before so I see it as a win.
honestly, I think it's just a values issue. Mostly feels pretty okay, but the Swarm is still a bit weak for losing its healing power
@@whaleborne1308 ya. I just like the fact that he's an actual frame now instead of a "bulletproof coat rack" as my friend put it.
His 4 doing damage is a side thing , the spreading cc and fact it still corrosive procs fairly fast is Decent , weird hottake that his 1 is his more ideal drop
Inaros has joined Caliban and Revenant in the spin club
Revenant and Inaros spin better haha
Inaros spins better than anyone now 💅🏻
he's always been this way to be honest.. Caliban is way different .. his spin is more of a movement tool.. Infinite Range in Open world.
U mean Disco club ?
Y’know, as sad as I am that his 4 scales so horribly, this build may have ended up being more fun than building around that. Hoping that they tweak it still, build variety is the main idea of a rework so having one ability still be “eh” doesn’t really help with that goal. But at least we’re not DOA.
All they really need to do is buff the damage and tick rate and it'll probably be fine
@@Omegeddon Make the kavats deal enemy max HP% damage of like 5%. Sounds mid, but it'll spread the Swarm, while also dealing better damage at higher levels.
I think people are way to caught up on wanting his 4 to be a killing ability. That's not really Inaros.
Scarab swarm is meant to be a CC ability that has the complimentary effect of corrosive damage and status. It's an absurdly powerful CC, and it even eats at eximus units, so the instant their overguard is removed they get stun locked.
Pair his 4 with 2 green emeral shards for max corrosive stacks, and sickening pulse + Elemental sandstorm, and inaros can group, armor strip a tile, then nuke it.
@twilightgaming5023 I don't think it needs to kill (that's Inaros's job, he's a track not a nuke), but I wish it still had support like before. If not healing, I wish it could steal armor or, dare I say, grant overguard. Maybe an augment idea, but it would be a pretty cool addition to replace the heal so Inaros can support the squad.
@@twilightgaming5023 if it's not gonna do anything but deal damage, then it better be good at dealing CONSISTENT damage. not even a large amount, just consistent
I can’t wait for this years teir list I feel like so many warframes and the content changed this year. I just wish some warframes who needed a boost got them like Banshee or Caliban. Either way very curious to see Brozimes takes
Nyx and loki?
@@honorguard7616pretty sure loki is already getting reworked atm
@@toethlef8994not by sounds from Pablo's response
Honestly if they just reverted Banshee's nerf that would be enough. Sonar used to not have a cap, so you could stack spots to the point they'd overlap and entire enemies would glow your energy color.
@@NeightrixPrimethey still do , you just never have had ability for them to stack more than twice on same spot
Another benefit for Nikana, is the good ol Amalgam Daikyu for healing.
this channel's video titles is how i find out about warframe updates still and i love you for it
Literally back to Spin to Win builds but in a different way.
A dust storm that leaves tiles sqeeky clean, the irony
I dunno. Overextended + desication mod makes for some decent numbers in the new disruption. Sure it takes time to strip but it's also spreading super fast. He's no Saryn, but it seems worth using to me.
And you can carry enemies into the red circle for netracells. Big W.
At least this version of him is more believable as someone who liberated Mars 😂
Rambo (cause no powers were useful) in his limited edition Mummy costume skin wasn't good enough?
@@RemnantSoul This rework fits his lore. Fighting Infested with this rework shows how that fight went.
I have noticed the Infested are much more aggroed with Inaros on the map, and fight harder from the very first fight on the map.
Im gonna have to try the Nami Solo out now. I was using a Zaw Machete, I believe Cyath is the one. But I chose it because Ive got a riven and the heavy attack is a big spin, so I like your thinking here.
I think what could be interesting is having his 4 build melee combo and give enemies a melee vulnerability debuff or something
I don't think Scarab Swarm is supposed be a damage ability, Pablo marketed it more as a CC and debuff skill that locks enemies in place, applies corrosive and spreads all over the place through proximity and cats.
But then why add the damage scaling with health part? Why not just make it an armor strip wholesale instead of armor strip via corrosive?
@@Alivair It's the first time ability's dmg scales with frame's health, maybe they just wanted to try something new, and the ability used to deal corrosive dmg before so I think they just improved it a little and that's it, it wasn't supposed to be "zero to hero" or something
This already deserves a like for the drip and the configuration names
Nice vid keep up the good work ! And what about keratinos for the heavy attack after sandstorm ? It is a special heavy attack with lots of spins, slash procs, decent range and the weapon has innate viral unless im mistaken. Havent tried it myself yet but might be something according to the wiki. Not sure if it is good damage-wise however.
The attack itself is good, but falloff will kill the damage in groups larger than like 4
His 4 is for turning him into a weapons based frame if you build around it and have 2 green archon shards it’s a full armor strip and tile full cc and more helm builds
I personally find a xatas whisper and Kuva Nukor build to absolutely melt all armor based enemies no matter the faction
Brozine try using Sickening pulse over Desiccation. Put 2 green max corrosive shards on. Pop 4, group with elemental sandstorm 2 for heat/viral/slash, pop sickening pulse. Enemies instantly lose their armor then explode due to the status procs
You could also build a weapon with corrosive slash, slap on nourish. I haven't gotten to do any testing with that, but i feel like it might be a good way to dps with sand storm right?
Brings new meaning to "spin to win"
His 4 could get some love 25% health or affected by strength percentage
And a .5sec tick or 2 ticks per sec would be great for 2 green shards setups
His tics are at 0.5 sec intervals, thats precisely why its so slow. Should be 0.2 with the full damage on every tic instead of spread out over a whole second.
@@mayhemivory5730 so its 7sec for full strip thats not the worst but it looked faster on pablo wip video
@@cenation7mjc It's the same as Wisp's Sol Gate, and that was painfully slow when I tried it out. That's another ability that really should have a faster tic rate so the corrosive can actually get useful.
For a different flavor, Ive also been having run the same build but with Silva nad Aegis for pure Viral or Corrosive and Heat, along with Archon Vit for double heat procs and Archon Int for Transient fortitude's str but without the Duration penalty and for dirt cheap, which will also have infintie uptime since sandstrom is a healing ability and youll always have some token amount of damage without any shields.
I just went ctrl+F on recent comments to see if someone had a similar idea and I just found this, an improvement of what I was thinking in doing, thanks mate 👍
How do you get the lab simulacrum?? Can It be bought from Bird or is It an event or smth??
You can buy it from Loid with the new disruption's resource
Can anyone tell me what's causing the floating blue energy that's circling him, I thought it was an ephemera, but it's not?
You can also consider silva&aegis for a pure fire stat stick that can have stacks doubled with archon vitality
Thoughts on Praedos for the stat stick + extra speed?
Now would be a great time for a Rhino build refresh. As far as i can tell he's the meta for the new disruption gamemode due to being able to 97.5% slow the Necramechs with his Stomp, ensuring they never get the chance to get close to the conduits and making the weak point hits super easy, on top of having undiminished roar, being able to stack both Roar and Nourish and Corrosive shard strip, and survive in a Revenant-esque way with the new buffed Reinforcing Stomp augment. He's definitely got space for Parkour and Casting speed shards as he can forego armor scaling and rely entirely on enemy incoming damage to create iron skins that scale to enemy level and then just heal them with the stomp augment.
What are your thoughts on duration instead of strength shards? Really get those timers up for QoL? Or not worth?
Should be good either way so if you prefer the longer 2 I'd go for it
The stats of the weapon itself never matter for abilities that use stat sticks (khora, gara and atlas 1 for instance), this is different for inaros?
would something like sun and moon be a good melee weapon for this build also? it too has a nice spin to win heavy attack
The armor strip from his 4 is just too slow, right?
I really like the kit, I hope they try out some more different numbers on his 4 to make it worth using.
Is that a new simulacrum? Can't seem to find any info on it or how to get it.
Loid at the sanctum is selling it.
so why use Umbral Vitality and Umbral Intensify when you can use Archon Intesify and get 60% strength on the second cast of sandstorm since sandstorm heals? also, would archon continuity + a melee with toxin and 2 green shards just armor strip everything?
I got 4 of them arcanes from my netracells this week. I was like it's so bad.. But now i got a use for it lol.
They sell for like 50 plat a piece even still
@@Frostman1255 Ill just use it for the build he showed. Don't really need the plat. But thanks for the tip 😀
Though I don't know enough about what makes for a great stat stick, due to rounding for quantization of the way damage is calculated during an actual mission (unless something has changed) Galatine prime will also only produce slash status! :)
Elemental Sandstorm + Gas/Elec + Breach Surge? Looking forward to messing around with Inaros, it has been a while...
Does sandstorm have linger affect for blinding enemies? Because that what sandstorm is . Not😅 sand tornadoe
I hope we get a new augment for his 4. I would want it to remove the kavats and have his 4 proc viral as well as corrosive
I thought they said that he would be getting strength from his HP is that not the case or is it so little it's not worth counting?
The 4 ability gets extra damage from HP but the ability overall doesn't do enough damage to really matter
@@user-jm8sy5ox2jso I wasn't mistaken I mean in what I heard I just misunderstood it as I thought it was all his skills which I have to say would have been cool, I mean imagin if some frames needed all power strength while another gets its power from health while a third (Xaku) is all about range, it would open up the field for new build ideas and make some of the less used mods and augments worth more/more worth farming yourself a set.
But thank you for clearing that up for me.
did anyone else have no idea the status breakdown existed if you hover over it ?? I’ve been doing bad brain math instead for years
if you put the mecha set on your kubrow, you can avoid killing eximus all together
i saw others use his 4 and it seemed very powerful, are you sure?
Still prefer inaros as a weapons platform with 2 green shards either melee or guns work and using roar/nurish instead of his 1
He now got heal and grouping build in so you dont need arcane grace blessing is now the better option and energy can be through rage
His 3 doesnt need the augment gives 1000 armor and you are not stuck in place
His 4 is closest to hydroid 4 and it can be combined with corroding barrage but you will be missing out on nourish and the damage buff from plunder so might not be worth it compared to just spin kiliing enemies
Someone please tell me what this new simulacrum room is
Go to Loid.
Just an idea: What if I put Wrathful Advance on him and then give Inaros a charged attack focused melee weapon?
wheres the onos video😔
the way i have gone for the 4th ability is with tesla bank and 2 greens for full armor strip and range (not even 100% str i use 95% ability str) with the 4 not really killing all that much but tesla bank makes it work :D
Would replacing his first be better if I was not using crescendo?
Crescendo stacks through ground finishers as well iirc, so u could remove his first even if using crescendo :^>
Have you considered using the tornado with a melee using influence? I wonder if it would be a viable strategy.
its not
@@noahedenborg4221 Can you elaborate on why that is?
@@TheFlamePhoenix tornado can't proc it and doesn't count as melee so influence does nothing
@@noahedenborg4221 the tornado does proc electricity. However now I understand your point, in that it does not count as a melee hit. Thanks for explaining !
Wait, they removed the healing from Scarab Swarm? Somehow I didn't notice it was gone, (why would I think to check?), but as an Inaros avid that was like my favorite thing on his kit.
Healing on the finishers (1) and 2 should be plenty. They just moved it around a little
Oh I know, but I just enjoyed watching my health bar as I stand next to the swarm.
@@GamerdevilPro it was his only group heal im kinda bummed it's gone
Spin to win returns!
Pretty sure sandstorm sets enemies up for ground finishers, so crescendo should be really easy to use.
While this looks a lot stronger I'd definetly still prefer putting 2 greens and using his 4 to basically lock down a room with cc and armor stripping. Forces you to use his entire kit more and make it much more fun though it is more dependent on his weapons and especially his melee.
i dont like that the sandstorm isnt a channel ability anymore. I also do like that they baked in his previous band-aid augment for the armor though, If only they could do that for Infiltrate and a few others. Start getting rid of the augments that are just stripped functions sold back to waste a mod slot and the band-aid augments that should just be a baked in buff for frames that need it.
His 4 spawns sand cats, you need sand cats because they contribute to revive meter, you will need that cause you're going to pretty much get oneshot all the time unless you neve go out of his 2 (which is kinda stoopid to do for 1 hour straight).
The buffed Arca Titron is super fun with elemental sandstorm
Explain?
wait where is this simulacrum skin?
Maybe the new 4 could work if it was a 1:1 health conversion. Oh well though, at least Inaros has a usable kit now!
change his 4 to silence put on savage silence and now u can 1 shot everything using his 1st ability
What would an ideal riven for the nami solo roll?
range crit damage attack speed
Slash and Viral are great.
But I wonder how many of the Archon mods can be used together with sandstorm.
Could we potentially have a build that used all 5?
Would we need to subsume something with heat or electric damage?
It would still rely on roar still. I've tried and broz tried heat and it's just kinda worse even with archon mods. Viral+ slash is the ideal combo due to ignoring armor and ramping up damage.
@@BigKillaJoke Huh. I couldn't even get the build shown in the video + the Nikana P to work on SP.
Hear me out, Voilet shards with bonus damage on electrified enemies, and just a bit of electricity damage on your stat stick
let it RIP!! bayblade intro music starts to play
“Spring cleaning” 💀
You could try the Viral nunchunks
Really hope they at least allow you to disable his passive optionally. I would take last gasp over some clunky, weird self revive mechanic 10 times out of 10. Same with Sevagoth.
Unlike inaros's, sevs actually works
@@saviergg2351 I'd still take last gasp over it. They're all clunky and awkward. Operator amps can be consistent and do perfectly fine damage at SP content
SMV i think got inaros to 110k health or mr warframe guy i forgot specifically
The biggest disappointment is that darude doesn’t automatically start playing with his kit
Not exactly what I was hoping for with a rework, but at least he is viable now.
LOL the loadout names
Is that a new simulacrum?
Yes, from Loid
How dare you not have the track name on screen
Shazam that shit!
i have waited for this video...
also first!
What animations is he using?
Hildryn I believe
Deathwatch Rhino
What interests me about elemental sandstorm is that it works with all the archon mods. Archon Intensify is especially good, and you can use stretch and vitality and continuity also depending on the weapon. And flow I suppose, but cold sandstorm sounds pretty mild.
Can work with a number of the new archon shards, too. Especially corr armour strip, which feels like the main way to make his 4 actually useable.
Whhy not slaytra? It has increased slash duration. Like a pocket Ash.
Isn't this just world on fire 2.0?
Funny how the game direction has changed since they got rid of stuff like that.
They really should have made the ticks faster on his 4... i mean the armor strip is way to slow to hardly feel worth it.
I thought it was a Diablo 4 vid when I saw dust devils
Roar build, got it
guess im going for dorrclave riven with slash lol
Aquablades when
-Name of the Warframe?
- Dadude Sandstorm.
The only thing I wished they gave him was Jackels instead of cats ^^
What do mean his 4 i lack luster bro i can lock down a mission with ease his 4 is amazing
Credit where credit is due, this is the first build on a popular channel that I've seen using elemental sandswarm.
I use elemental sandstorm, 2 green shards, and sickening pulse on mine. You spread 4 to cc enemies, group them with 2 and apply a lot of heat/slash, then pop sickening pulse. They lose all their armor and then melt do slash/heat, then the scarabs spread to new enemies, repeat
Tier list when lmao
Dust cleaning Inaros.
He's definitely got stuff going on. But i still find him to just be a different kind of boring.
But dante is fun so i got something to use
spinjitzu inaros
Can't believe they didn't add a Brozime Battlegroup to the Simulacrum, unplayable.
Yeeeaaaaaaaaa this js gonna get nerfed or more accurately values cahnged. This isnt what DE was wanting.
iv been to spoiled by the newer frames having more complexity... sure they said they where not reinventing the wheel ... and sure they made a spin frame work for once but still ......
Inaros' 4 being his weakest ability is actually nothing new.
Haven't you figured out by now that in DE's world, most Ultimate abilities suck? We're 55+ Warframes into this game and you could barely count on both hands all the 4s that are actually worth using, even on the most OP frames like Wisp, Revenant or Protea...
As a matter of fact, I challenge you to make a tier list of all the ultimates just to shed light on how many of them range from borderline-to-completely useless.
As a rule of thumb, most frames rely on their 2s and 3s, rarely 1s, and even more rarely so 4s.
It's kinda sad to see how you give yourself no chance to appreciate how smoothly his abilities chain into one another, but... oh well...
As certain classic put it: "You do it to yourself".
after the rework he's still underpower, nowhere near the previous rework Hydroid.
Pablo said Inaros' rework wouldn't be on the same scale as Hydroid's.
I actually liked old Inaros and had builds for him using helminth. They totally f*ked 4 of my builds up😂
When I got Inaros for the first time, if you told me his 2nd will become a real ability to use I would have laughed at you, I’m glad he’s finally a warframe and not just a health Pool with guns