Which Mini Skid Steer is best!? BUYING A NEW SKID STEER!
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2018
- We have been looking into buying a new Mini Skid Steer so we decided to test out three diffrent types on a job we recently did! We tried the Vermeer Mini skid steer with tracks, Dingo mini skid steer with tracks, and Bob cat with wheels mini skid steer! Let us know what you guys would choose in the comments! Dont forget to LIKE,SHARE,SUBSCRIBE, AND COMMENT!
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Unless the machine has a ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) aka “Roll Cage” you do not want to be tied to it as it goes over.
That's the truth
I have a 2005 Dingo Tx420, and put 350 hours on it since I bought it 2/2018. I have rebuilt the wheel motors, replaced tracks 2x, replaced most of the road wheel bearings, rebuilt the track guides, rebuilt one of the main track idler wheels, replaced bearings in both track idler wheels, replaced the positive battery terminal that went bad, and replaced the starter. One of the relays popped almost all the way out of the relay holder, and after replacing it, the engine started up. Also the carb fuel solenoid wiring went bad, so I ran a new wire to the solenoid so the engine would run again. Now the engine won't charge up the battery, so I have to fix that. But this machine is a beast. With my homemade stand, I've been able to pick up 1200# on flat ground. (even though operating capacity is 535#.) It just doesn't like to start in cold weather.
Sounds like a lot of broken parts for a fairly new machine.
I'm glad didn't go that route.
Thanks for the information
Sounds like you got her when she was put out to pasture and her working days were mostly behind her. These things take a real beating in their early lives.
David, I have ran those brands for decades. The Dingo is a good machine, but has issues with tracks over time, and has a great engine. Bobcat is a good machine, but the hydro system hasn't been as responsive. The Vermeer is a great machine, good tracks, and is dependable. No matter who you go with, strongly consider the distance to your nearest dealer because you will need service and repairs. I have always bought my machines new or as demo units so that I know the history of the machine, know it has been serviced, and can take care of it long-term. Lastly, I recommend secondary hydro to run a 90lb hammer off the machine when you need it (e.g. thick steps or hammering out reinforced concrete). I see the one unit in your video has it. Good luck to you and let us know what you get! All the best, Matt in Ohio
Yes it seems to boil down to serviceability on any machine you purchase
TY
What do you think about the Sk800s matt
I have run many different brands, here is my input:
Dingo: belt driven pump looses power with age and gives issues, the walk behind platform gets caught up in the dirt when digging, not enough power to the drive in wet conditions to skid sideways.
New dingo tx1000 riddled with issues, there are way too many with 100-250 hours for sale.
Vermeer s450tx
Hands down 100 times better than a dingo, gets in tight spaces, makes life easier, only get a bigger machine if you are trying to lift lots of heavy items, but for digging it is great.
Boxer:
Stay away, not enough power to the drive tracks, can’t spin in a circle in the mud. Terrible controls and platform, platform has too much movement giving a calf workout all day.
Bobcat- unfamiliar with it, until recently they had a different attach plate than others so I never bothered
Ramrod/Thomas parts are hard to get, self leveling design is a bad design for dirt work or moving gravel. You can’t ever get materials off the front lip of the bucket to the back of the bucket without going up and doing it by hand.
Ditch witch: best machine in my opinion, open design tracks don’t get plugged with debris, faster than a Vermeer and at a better price point.
thanks for the breakdown
I operate an sk1050 (ditch witch) almost on a daily basis. Our company just bought the machine several months ago and it is hands down the best mini skid steer I have ever used. Powerful, rugged and like you said, at a decent price point.
what size ditch witch, the Vermeer CTX100 beat the Ditch Witch 1050 in lift capacity, high flow option, and price point. Just my experience, I also demo'd bobcat, toro, avant, and multi-one. Every industry is different, and all users are different. One thing I never see referenced is dealer support, crucial selling point, service and parts turn around are big time. Again, every area is different.
Hopkins Lawn & Landscape thanks for the info!
@@peytdav3009 my comment above was geared at you, what size Ditch Witch?
I own a vermeer and use it for landscaping, concrete and paver work. I've tried all the other brands and decided to go with vermeer 4 years ago because of how easy it is to use. Also liked how comfortable and safe it feels standing in the equipment and not floating outside. It also makes it easier in tight areas. Made me feel like I am part of the equipment. Reliable equipment and RDO Rancho Dominguez has been great in service.
That's good to know
TY
I used a Vermeer for about 80 ft of sidewalk work last month. It won't dig very well, but was great for everything else including shallow scraping . Very nimble, I had to work between retaining walls and close to trees. The Vermeer is great for specific types of work, it was what I needed at the time.
Yes there defiantly is a purpose for different equipment
Being owner of my own concrete business, I do alot of this same kind of work and rented alot of Machines. The one I'm considering buying is the Bobcat Mt85. The power on the Mt85 is phenomenal. Never once stalled out the machine lifting a load.
sounds good
I shopped them all, I purchased a Vermeer CTX100 for $32k, best piece of equipment I have,I use it almost daily, you keep finding new ways and attachments to use with it. I installed Generac Generators with it, from grading, to hauling gravel, 48” trenching, backhoe, dirt and snow blade, 48” pallet forks.i move over 1/2 a ton when placing units with concrete preformed pads attached. You pay more upfront, but that turbo diesel has the horse power when needed.
Yes I concur
good way to start the week thanks for the video n nice new toy!
exactly !
I have a Boxer 526dx been using it for 6yrs for tree work they are a very well built and strong machine.
nice
Ok..guys...the vermeer model might be a good one...but im going to be in the market for another mini skidsteer soon, let me tell you about my experience, and I can say that I have only used the toro dingo mini...I know everyone is talking sh@#$% about the dingo ..but I own a 2003 tx425 wide tracked, and me myself and my guys have abused the shit out of it...and it keeps going, I can't talk about the new ones but it hasn't given me no problems 😊, and trust me when I say that I literally work the shit out of it...it has dug up so many big, I mean big stumps that literally had to have 2 guys stand on the back with me to counter balance the weight ,LOL ... you can imagine the dingo with 3 mexicans on the back to keep it from tipping over,😆😅🤣😂...but I am willing to try out other brands...to see their potential and be able to compare apples to apples...
I recently purchased the bobcat s70 and so far it’s been good to use only thing I can say I don’t like is the stability sometimes is really bad. Other than that it’s great for getting rid of a lot of labor work. Digging dirt , loading up the dump trialer , taking out small trees and grading small back yards aswell.
Yes that's my goal
Hey Dave! I picked up a Vermeer 925 (the ctx100’s little brother) earlier this year. So far we have put a 120 hrs on it and we love it. Why I didn’t go with the ctx100
-$7000.00 more than the 925
-they have the same lifting capacity
-the ctx is 6 inches longer
-they dig the same. The 40hp is really only needed in my opinion if you will be running a lot of high flow attachments such as trenchers, augers, or mower attachments all the time. I really haven’t thought once “I wish I would have gotten the bigger machine”.
Anyways, let me know if you have any questions! I did quite a bit of research and testing on these before I pulled the trigger.
As somebody else mentioned, whoever Services you the best would also be a deciding factor. RDO equipment where I am from is awesome.
I use the breaker attachment, High flow.
RDO good to know
I work at a large power plant in Belews Creek NC, we have been running a wheeled toro dingo for coal, lime stone, and gypsum spills version since 08 it’s gets used 15-20 hours a week and the only things that we’ve had to service was the bucket which rusted out, and basic oil and filter changes. Other than that it runs great and I love it in areas at the plant the skid steers can’t get to. It’s an older model, but it’s been a good machine.
Sounds like a dependable unit
I like these mini skids. They can get into some tight spaces. What is the average rental cost?
200
My limited experience with the mini skid-steers is this: I rented a Toro Dingo that was a wheel-driven unit. What a worthless POS that was! It had the optional stand-on platform which was good. All I had to do was to backfill a 12" ditch that was about three feet deep that I had dug for a gas line -- or so I thought. About halfway through I realized that I had forgotten about the ten tons of sand in the bottom of the ditch. So I ended up having to carry a scoop of soil at a time down to a ditch on my property. I don't know if all the Dingos are like this but here's the dealbreaker on the one I had. You can't move the hydraulics while in motion. They weren't locked out or anything -- it was just the way the controls were set up. So if the terrain varies (as it will) you have to constantly stop moving to raise or lower the scoop. Totally ridiculous.
I also used the Vermeer with the 40-horse motor on tracks but it was hooked up to a stump grinder. Awesome machine. The controls were set up way better. Plenty of power for the stump grinder so I would imaging that it could handle the scoop with no problems at all. The only thing was that it was February and chilly and the radiator is right at the operator's legs and the air flow required me to wear three layers of pants while I worked. If it's not cold I'd say that it wouldn't be an issue.
That's all I got.
Yes I have heard that multiple times here from different people.
Gutless tools
Thank guys very helpful.
TY
You ever look one of your guys right in the eye and KNOW that he's thinking, "why don't YOU push the wheel barrow and I'LL drive the little tractor"?
For sure
Fired
Excellent product demo.
TY
I have 3 dingos. I am on the east coast with primarily clay soils, and these machines are used primarily for their different types of tools, not a production environment of moving dirt. I have boring units, trenchers, vibe plows, Harley rakes, buckets, forks augers and snowplows for them
We have had no issues with them,
They are not particularly good at any task, but they can do so many things mediocre .
We love ours and they are the first things my guys load up.
Light footprint, gets through all gates, couldn’t ask for more.
The paddle on the dingo can get tiring to use, but the twin sticks on other units require more skill to use and can be real jerky
Just about anyone, in a couple of hours, can become decently proficient at using the paddle style controls
Yes that sounds about right do to there size
We just bought the Vermeer 925 from Justin (great guy) and so fast we are happy with it. We moved about 40 tons of rock. 10 tons of gravel and 10 yards of soil within a few days and were very impressed with how easy it made the day. Our crew was excited and happy to not have to move 600lbs rocks all day. Message me for further details if you want.
That's great
TY
I had a dingo and my father sustained a serious back injury when the machine went over a rock with the bucket elevated. Given the distance between the tracks and where the operator stands- it becomes a catapult and creates a slingshot type action.
I sold the unit soon after and would only consider the asv units like the rc30 because of the safety advantage.
I can see that happening.
TY
iv have have rented them all and I love the little dingo. gets it done great for the price
TY
Hello.I own a Ditch Witch SK 600. I can fit in a 3 foot gate which was my first requirement. We install artificial turf in Phoenix so it loads a lot of wheel barrels mainly. I think that the only thing I would do differently is more lifting capability. As far as access goes these machines are incredible. I currently have 56 gentle hours on it.
I have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great work.
Rusty.
Thanks
I've been looking at getting the sk1550. I also install artificial turf but in SwFL. Just don't know if it's the right machine or not
@@dallasfraley14 . I like everything spec wise on that machine. Couple of things that don't work for me on the 1550 are price and width. Not sure about Florida, but Phoenix has tight access into back yards. Occasionally we run into rv gates. They sure are fantastic for demo work.
Awesome!!! Period!
TY
I would give a STRONG CONSIDERATION to which dealer can service/repair/loan a machine when needed....and resale value (which would probably be low on your list). This should be a great investment for you, speed the work up! Good luck with the purchase! ...13
Good advice thank you!
I’m with Arkansas on the service you’ll get. I’ve been on both ends of excavating. If you don’t have good service, it won’t matter what you buy.
Yes the service and the location is crucial
I’ve run the dingo and found it needed a little more aggressive tread on the tracks when working with tilled clay soils, really lost traction had to back out with the bucket. The vemeer looks like it has better traction, I’ll try it when I have a similar job conditions
I like the vermeer, I dont think there's anything out there pound for pound that can beat it
Vermeer hands down!
S800tx diesel my personal favorite.
TY
Vermeer looks like a solid choice, but I didn't hear you mention its most important feature...not one but TWO cup holders!
True I like to put a drink in one and a measuring tape in the other
Thanks for pointing that out mt85 dosen't have one always have to keep my water bottle in my pocket
Would you use one of those enough to pay for itself? or continue to rent as needed? The larger unit seems to be able to do more overall and in the long run might make you more money. Sometimes a bit more horsepower cuts hours off a job.
Yeah thats true but i cant get the big ones into the backyard jobs
I know of a guy with a ride inside Vermeer.. its built super heavy duty and stands up to use in the woods. Given the choices of what we see in the video, my vote is Vermeer. Its a bit bigger but very very capable to do a huge range of jobs with powerful aux hydraulics.. For just light dirt, the Dingo might be the best bang for the buck, but for a capable tool that can do a range of jobs, and run augers, splitters, hammer, ripper, and scoop, invest in the big boy. It also has compound action on the boom, keeping it forward when scoop lifting high to load a truck or waste trailer. Huge advantage there.
SOunds like you know your equipment
TY
Very analytical approach which will help not just you but to all of us by choosing not just Skid but ,cars and any capital investment in general
TY
That Vermeer seems like a beast. Anyone have any experience with Cormidi CMF C1500?
Waiting to later this year to see how the Kubota SCL1000 stacks up. Looks like one nice machine.
It will be interesting
I haven't run mini-skid loaders but I've run a lot of farm and construction equipment and I have to say Vermeer makes very good stuff. We had a 48" trencher from them that was built like a tank. Their hay equipment is high quality. Vermeer makes pipeline, utility install, agriculture and forestry equipment. They know how to engineer tough equipment. Next time you see a utility crew with a directional drilling machine or a tree crew running a chipper, there's a good chance they are running Vermeer equipment.
I prefer Bobcat skid loaders (full size) to New Holland and JD, but I really like the Kubota cab machines.
I think we're on the same boat
Bobcat makes a Mt 52,55,85 with tracks. I own one they are mint. I have a hydraulic breaker on it as well. The Vermeer badass, dingo I heard was a junker , just what I heard. Good luck !
Looking at the specs, it looks like Vermeer, ditch witch, bobcat then dingo
I've never run a vermeer but I have run dingo, bobcat and ditch witch and I definitely prefer ditch witch for a lot of reasons. We ended up buying the SK800 because of ease of maintenance, parts cost and availability.
Probably a good choice
If you could find a kanga-kid for those small yards, you can fit anywhere and it just flys through 30” gates, it’s a small 13-15 HP Honda little engine but it’s so useful since it’s got tracks and all parts are very affordable, it’s small but powerful
Sounds good
TY
I would use a self loading tracked dumper on this application, they are 32" wide carry 19cu.ft of material and would save you a guy pushing a wheelbarrow, you can also get high dump models that will lift over the side of a dump trailer.
That sounds good
I’ve used the dingo and nothing but problems, rental places say it’s not built too last... NOW!! The ditch witch I’m madly in love with it. Oh man!!
Nice upgrade
I have a Dingo in rental with 3000 hours. There are some weak points to the 425/525 design but it isn't hard to keep them going forever. They also weight much less then even the smallest ditch witch.
Great video
What model number is the Toro dingle on video?
Gutless wonder
@@OdellCompleteConcrete haha
Was just asking cause lm wanting to rent one this week. It will be first time on a stand up
Hi David. I would recommend you trying the ditch witch. I've got the sk800 and it's a strong machine.
TY
Will it pick up a pallet of sod?
May I ask how much including buckets, trailer and breaker?
40,000
The battery powered wheel barrows are way better than a guy would think plus your laborers would love you.
Good idea
Why didn't u just have Anthony from west coast custom concrete come out the w his s70, I'm jk but u need to try out that Kubota scl1000
I would like to
I also have had a dingo fuel pump let go slowly. Worked well besides that
It happens
I’ve owned a boxer 322d for 6 years and we use it almost every day for our pool construction business. I will be buying an additional one this coming year so I’ve tested the new boxer vs the vermeer and definitely like the Vermeer better. Once you buy one you will wonder how you ever did anything without it.
I did really like the Vermeer and leaning towards getting that one.
I'm thinking about a boxer as we speak. What are your thoughts on them?
Really enjoy your channel Dave.....I have a cattle ranch, build old trucks and muscle cars here in northern California. As I continue to grow I need more flatwork around the place and turned to you for inspiration and education. Really appreciate your hard work. Maybe because we're more or less the same age I trust you more than others?...lol. Keep up the good work my friend.
Right on
TY
I would go with the Vermeer, even though it could be a little more pricey you are going to make your money back by getting the job done faster. And if you ever have to clean up concrete that extra hp is a big help. Plus if you ever get into doing other odd jobs that need attachments you'll need the hp.
that makes sense, go big and leave some options open.
There is a company that makes aluminum conveyors in 10 ft sections that run off of 110 power and you can run them in series. If you have alot of yards like this you might look into it. You could also set the conveyor to dump right into your truck.
Good to know
TY
Brian, would you be kind and post the link for the aluminum conveyor? Thanks in advance
and of course you don't give name of info...
@@Desideratapoem Look it up on the web under 110v portable conveyors.
@@vrcun Look it up on the web under 110V portable conveyors. It is what I did.
I love this channel, and I also like how you respond to most comments like taofladermaus a gun youtuber. I dont understand why most youtubers respond to questions an comments.
TY
I have seen all of those machines in action in person. I have no brand loyalty but was not impressed with the toro. The side by side demos I saw with the Vermeer, toro , and bobcat were very impressive for Vermeer to say the least. Friend of mine went with the Vermeer even though it was more money. But think of it this way, your going to have it for a while even though you might not need the extra power and lift capacity now, you will at some point. You’ll find yourself using it more and more and making its money back in no time.
Yeah i agree but being a concrete company i will most likely need that extra power! thanks for the input
I’m a Landscape/concrete contractor here in Sacramento CA. I highly recommend you check out the ditch witch mini skid steers. I own a sk 800 and it’s a beast. I love the fact that you don’t have to be on the machine to move it just a smidge... great videos by the way!!
TY
What did you end up purchasing? I am also in the hunt as well. Most used stuff is back east so Im looking at new. We do condo repair which includes a bunch of sidewalks and parking pads.
Vermeer
Lovey bobcat mt55 I recommend it! The tracks are wider then most other brands! $$$
TY
@@OdellCompleteConcrete go with diesel to if u can
Nice comparison
A big blow out.
dith with sk600 and ak800Is the width 36 in? I need to purchase a 36in Mini Skid Steers! Thank you!
That's the complete package
@@OdellCompleteConcrete What does that mean? I don't understand.
Well done my friend
ty
vermeer925 or cx100 or ditch witch800,Which one should I buy? I do landscape work!
They're all good.
wonder how well it would work doing snow,gonna be getting that so in the north.
They have a snow plow attachment, maybe even a blower
They're not great on snow in terms of pushing. They'd do much better with snow blower. I used my ditch witch last year and they just don't get much traction.
Sponsorship time! I think any machine would come in handy for your type of soil and work areas.
I agree! man it would be nice to be sponsored for one of these machines!
I have the bobcat Mt 55 its a life saver and it has tracks
I've heard some good things about that tool
I've noticed this is a number of your videos, so I'm just gonna bring it out. When doing your camera talks you might want to have the cameraman with the sun to his back
Yes were working on it
TY
Owning several mini skids in our company, I believe the mt85 would be a excellent set up or, 925tx Vermeer, lastly a ditch witch 800series. The ctx100 is to big for your application, the others will do well and you can buy more attachments.
Good point
STRONG ADVICE. I’ve tried 2 types of these. Both were very hard to use compared to a bobcat or skid steer. I know they are small but if you have to use for more than say 3 hours you will definitely be feeling like you went to the gym and did a major work out on your legs. Just wanted to give you my advice.
Yeah i felt that when i was on this, and i was on it longer than 3 hours thats forsure
JCMotorsports we moved 64 yards of dirt on a job this summer. Had to do it all with a mini, it was the only thing that would fit around the house. It will definitely give you a sore back and legs
Yes I can feel that, maybe something you can get use to, like being on a boat
Not as much as you would feel it if you barrowed and shoveled it all.
@@sydneyshinshi
that makes sense
Hello Sir I have a Mt52 Bobcat just has 20hp but I got it a a threat deal $1800 not running at all 1 track w a s missing no bucket but it's up an running great had all 3 cylinders resealed, O'rings replaced on lift arm control, all new grease zerks just purchased a GP bucket for $200 42" with it actually hoes on a ditch witch mini but ordered a mounting plate from Titain Attachment of Tennessee an Fab it to fit I'm proud of it works great, my friends have Dingos with tires an works great also they are proud of them also it's about how you service the machine not brands an how the services from the Dealership honor you when you bring it back to them for Repairs major or Minor .now I have rented a Ditch Witch an I enjoyed them 750 series , but No Vermeer yet No Boxer. Now I hear Kubota just came out with 1 about the size of the Vermeeran what ever dealership is closer to you for quick service abilities .
Yes I concur.
Everything created equal, its about the maintenance and ease of getting parts
Ditch witch i havent used them all but of the ones i have ditch witch is best
The specs look good, real close to the vermeer
Unless it's just completely out of your price range then I wouldn't cheap out on something like this, go with the big high powered unit all day long. Just because the little dingo worked well in soft ideal conditions doesn't mean it will get the job done when things get tougher with hard terrain, rocks, hammering, grappling, etc. The extra money will be worth it in the long haul plus I would assume much better longevity and resale value cuz you're not hammering it to its max constantly. Much higher reach, etc... Besides, you make 35k on most of your jobs anyway, right Dave.... Ha.
Maybe you should rent the 2 you liked the best several more times in different conditions before you make a decision.
I think your right about all that expect the 35 k part
I don't think you can go wrong with a vermeer there good machines . I have run t hat ctx 100 it is nice. I think the hydraulics r slow and the track system looks like a pain to work on. Look in to a Ditch witch sk 800 or 1050 the best track system hands down and the hydraulics r so much faster. I have an sk 750 with 2600 hrs on it and it works just about everyday . I live in Ma , i work in all kinds of soils sand rocks snow it has no issues in all kinds of terrain. They are well made . Nice video good luck 🖒
TY for your input, I will take it into consideration
Make sure you try a Ditch Witch before making a decision they are very reliable. 755 would be a nice machine for you.
Looks like the ctx100 has little bit better specs
muxxor They’re really good but DONT drive them in wet or mucky soil because one or both of the tracks can very possibly slip off.
I noticed a bolt on the side to tighten the tracks from time to time as they stretch out
They haven't made the 755 for about 2 or 3 years now. I'd get a 1050 personally. It's 37 hp. Btw that Vermeer does not have the largest engine of any mini skid steer. Ditch Witch and Boxer both have diesel units with around 45 HP. That sales rep should know better.
I think the best is the ditchwich i use a 1050 daily.
TY
I am so about to call you and come to Thessaloniki , Greece , for a front & back yard patio !!! :))
Get it on
Awesome machine .. Odell , I've got my eye on one... excellent video..how much?
50000
Skidsteers have tires. Mini track loaders have tracks. None of those machines are skidsteers.
I spent about a year looking at all these machines and ended up with an 05 bobcat 463. (Same as the s70)
The previous owner upgraded to 41" wide bucket and tires. (Was 36)
A skid steer won't work as good in sugar sand.. I'll give you that. But my 463 takes way less energy than balancing on the back of one of those, faster top speed, dumps higher, and was considerably cheaper. I've moved over 40 yds of fill into back yards in subdivisions with my 463. I'd hate to try on one of those.
definately will take getting the hang of it.
I need one of these just to say I have one
SOunds like fun
Where do you buy them used I see places like iron planet or bidadoo but those sites just seem sketchy too me. I want Vermeer
I hear that.
rental yards sell them all the time
Odell Complete Concrete thanks
I think the Vermeer works very good you get what you pay for
TY
Concrete! mt55 with wheeled stand on platform. Safest. Put counter weights in back and make a 3ft wide by 53 inch long bucket add 8inch on top-sides. Holds two wheel barrels of concrete. Just gave away my biggest money making secret.
Sounds sweet, I think you need to patent that
The delivery kid was flying high that morning! Dudes got his back to the sun and his eyes were completely welded shut!
Could be
At some point you will use the bucket to carry concrete from the mixer truck to the work site. For that job you need power and bucket capacity. My recommendation is to go big now and avoid regrets down the road.
Yes I have considered the big deep bucket for just that.
I look for lift height, horse power, hydraulic pressure
I have owned two vemeers but I tested the ditch witch and it was night and day. The ditch witch is built so much better and has a suspension where the others do not. You want suspension!!!!! Also the lights on the ditch witch
Ditch Witch all the way, very reliable and overall better machine then all of them.
That sounds interesting.
TY
What's the best way to dump all that dirt? Most dumpster company gives a bin that only holds 10 tons in Orange county.
True
I like the trucking Companies that do the long hauls
Kubota scl 1000 #1 then vemeer #2 bobcat mt100#3 ditch with then dingo
Sounds like a fair order
That vemeer is sweet too! U guys use concrete pumps, when I get the right one 4 what I need I'm going to turn it I to a Georgia buggy, shh
What model did u end up getting? And do u like it?
Hi, I've ran all three, toro, vermeer, ditch witch. Vermeer and ditch witch out performed toro. I'm buying a ditch witch 1550 for landscaping.
sounds good
mr odell buy a yard max track barrow, its been a game changer for us
Sure
I'm not sure if my opinion counts but how durable is the machine, the cost of repairs (will you maintain it and what do parts cost), what was the machine really designed to do and by whom (professional or weekender with money)? What is the depreciation on the equipment and will it maintain its value? What do local industry professionals think? Just a couple of thoughts
good thoughts! ill keep those in mind!
Love my dingo tx1000 narrow track. It's a beast. Got a nice breaker for it too. You'll love your new machine.
have you tested the other brands?
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I have. The Vermeer and bobcat mini skidsteer. Felt like the Dingo operated the best. Had mine 2 years and have had no problems or regrets. Bought a aftermarket concrete breaker from Quick attach and it works really good with it too.
Sounds good
I got 2015 wide tracks 240 hrs, neutral sensors out at 140 hrs, new tracks at 120 hrs, new starter 180hrs, had to welded muffler, replaced parking brake handle, and ignition switch. Other then that works fine. I did use vibratory plow to pul 2" water line and works like a charm, grapple to clear 3 acres after trees were cut for lugs, trencher attachment most of the time with rock teeth. Thinking about going to ditch witch.
Do you have motorized wheel barrel?
not yet
Better look at the engine rating sticker on the Kohler Valve Cover, it’s rare in kW, European Measurements, not US Standards. The actual hp is 25 at idle to approximately 52hp at 2600 rpm. Kohler rates it at 56 hp. Don’t believe me, look it up, I did after I purchased one.
I think the specs say 40 horse
Bobcat mini skid steer or one of the best
ty
I reckon, for lifting spoil into a truck or trailer, you're always going to run into the leverage of weight x distance. For a small machine that can go through a gateway, it's never going to have the weight to balance a heavy bucket load lifted any distance forward of the tracks. And flipping it up is never fun!
I'd work on the assumption that the only way you'll fill a trailer with one of those is if you have ramps up the back and drive onto the trailer with each load. Which is still better than shovelling!
It dumps fine in to my dump trailer
I guess if you are going to do a comparison between the different manufacturers of mini skid steers, it's important to compare apples to apples. Here you have a Vermeer CTX-100 and a Toro Dingo TX-427 which are two different sized machines in the way of build and capacity. What you should be comparing it the Vermeer CTX-100 to the Toro Dingo TX-1000 and the Bobcat MT-85 where all specs are of comparable value. The Dingo here is half the lifting ability of the Vermeer.
At any rate, every job may have a different situation with accessibility and material being brought in or removed, so different machines will be warranted for that particular application. It's not a one all machine is perfect for everything. Big job, big machine. Small job, small machine.
Affordability is also a contributing factor. I would love to have that Vermeer! The reality is, I couldn't afford it. Toro Dingo TX-427, TX-525 and the Bobcat MT-55 are more in my price range, and that's a good used unit. I would take any of them in a heartbeat, especially with the availability of attachments. It's way better than manual work (shovel and wheelbarrow) Cheers!
I concur
You need three different types of machines to really cover everything
Bobcat mt85 that I’ve use it puts the dingo to shame better track frame and design
TY
I have a plumbing business and I’m buying a ditch witch sk800. My dad was like, “what the hell do you need one of those for, we just need a trencher”. But I’m like I don’t want to drop big bucks on a machine that will just does trenching, I want a machine that does more than trenching. Move dirt around, trench, backfill, move materials, level dirt, grade, etc.
Was there a reason for not choosing a little 360 excavator?
you can't grade. but great for trenching
for a block wall demo wall and replace its 61 ft long 6 ft hi with all work and labor with all broken material to dump how much will it cost i’m in santa ana calif just want a rough estimate so i have something to say to the insurance co. 41 feet collapsed on nov 8th winds
6000
thank u verymuch for the estimate
Look into a one ton mini excavator tracks suck into 3’ and would move the dirt more efficiently then you could use the same machine to load out the dirt in the front.
sounds interesting
I like the Boxer unit 322D or 700HDX
I didn't try the boxer
We have used Vermeer mini skid for the last 8 years or so. The tracks will come off, if you’re not careful, specially working with gravel. Pain in the butt to put back but not too bad. Other than that occasional hydraulic hoses leaking - Vermeer has been extremely reliable. If you have high side dump trailer - forget it about it - you can maybe load from the back and shovel to the front of the trailer. Or use the curb for more height.
KG - ATX
That makes sense
TY
I’ve rented a few of these machines... and found it difficult to load a dual axel dump trailer. The machine can only get so close to the trailer, and the bucket dumps along the sides of the trailer. You have to get in the trailer and re-distribute the material away from the side walls..
That's interesting.
Looks like a pain in the ass.
Thomas Rossi True need more reach
Ditch witch makes what I believe has the longest reach but it is still a problem when loading into a bobtail loads my dump trailer fine no problem but the higher you have lift to dump the shorter the span to dump , but the ditch witch is a beast with a breaker attachment and they also make a 3’ dirt tiller that mills down 1” to 6” of hard pan like butter and leaves the dirt like sand so it’s easy to pick up and leaves the grade flat no humps
Great video.
Sorry in advanced for m'y english (i am french).
M'y expérience, those machine (any kind) should be sell with High reach bucket.
Same for the bobcat toolcat.
As i read ealier, service after sell is very important as it will break something for sure.
I love watching your work but you all definitely work with some soft soil out there , those machines would be almost useless working in the Arizona desert soil.
There is a lot of silt by the Colorado river area
I've used them to excavate dry hard clay. They have the power and traction to cut into some pretty hard stuff. Once you get the bucket to bite they will eat up a bucket full in mere seconds.