I do pay a lot of attention also when rinsing my cassette as the contaminated water, carrying oil from the cassette can spray on to the disc rotor. I like to wrap the rotor in a clean rug when washing the cassette :)
@fedbiker switch to squirt wax based lube now and watch the difference .trick is to apply to a spotless dry drivetrain.lube night before ride and lube twice on first application...its a revelation and i wont touch anything else
Easy way to avoid brake contamination (discs or rim brake for that matter) is remove the wheels and place them a decent distance away from the bike before lubing everything up. You can also put cheap freezer bags over the calipers and seal off with an elastic band. Then make sure you wait for the lube to cure off or any excess to drip off (I leave mine an hour) before putting the wheels back on.
I've have my own method of applying lube to chain, and cassette. I use an pure bristle half inch lining fitch, ( paint brush) I load the brush with lube and apply it to the whole drivetrain. It works perfectly with no contamination of any other components. Try it, you won't look back.
I always take any shower caps I might find in hotels, etc. There are also plastic wrap products with rubber bands at the edges for covering dishes/leftovers... these are nice to shield brakes and rotors and even to keep your seat clean/dry when parked.
It’s totally possible to overdo degreaser. You want your lube worked into the inside of the rollers around the linking pins of the chain. No point in washing it all out each time. I only use degreaser sparingly on a rag or about once or twice a year to soak the chain.
I use a bit of foam from a sponge when I apply chain lube, wet or dry... Soak the chain and catch the excess in the sponge, then rub the moistened sponge all along the drive train to collect any excess lube that might have dropped out of the rollers... Helps keep the bike and the garage clean from spills and seems to prevent the extra grime and debris pickup from riding. I didn't know about letting dry lube set for a moment before wiping it down, gonna remember that for next time
@@timyassa4343 You must live somewhere with nice roads and mellow weather. If I leave my bike without cleaning for more than 2 days, it would be caked in mud and rusted.
I’m lucky to have cabinet’s full of quality car detailing supplies...my other passion. Most of the products I use for decontamination, cleaning and protecting work extremely well for bikes. Most of the materials and parts you find on vehicles clean up and protect the same way with Mountain bikes. One of my favorite products I use is Carpro ECH2O. It’s a waterless wash and quick detailer. It’s an Sio2 based product that helps protect the paint and plastics on vehicles. I use it after the wash on all the painted and plastic surfaces...especially on the suspension. Creates a super slick surface that repels water and crud .makes cleanup the next time around super easy. Most of the mud and crud just rinses off with minimal work!!
(Sorry, different cleaning topic) I used muc off to clean my bicycle, but it is some really aggresive stuff, it ate away a layer of paint after a minute. Not for plastic bikes I guess! I use it with a little water now.
I put a bit on each pin and then rotate the drive train a few dozen times to work it in and then wipe any surface oil away with a rag buy turning the drivechain with the chain wrapped in a clean rag. Seems to work well and stops dirt building up on the chains surface.
I still don't know if you have to lubricate the cassette or not? I tought a clean cassette and lubricated chain is the way to go? Next. De derailleur and the bottom bracket. Can you use some spray lubricant?
I'm taking a totaly different approach: 1. Take a paper towel and remove excessive mud 2. Remove the chain and throw it in a jar 1/3 to 1/2 full of gasoiline 3. Shake the chain in the closed jar for 2-3 to remove the dirt even from the rollers 4. Hang the chain somewher to dry off 5. Start to heat up some wax 6. Clean the remaining drivetrain components with the remaining gasoiline 7. apply a drop of oil to the pulley wheel bearings/bushings 8. let the chain sit in the 105-110 °C hot wax for a minute 9. Pull it out and let it cool down on some paper towels 10. Mount the chain again That way you clean and lubricate the chain inbetween pins and rollers while slowing down new dirt from entering it. Wax doesn't attract dirt like oil and grease do, it repels it. That means your drivetrain stays cleaner longer and even touching your chain doesn't leave any black residue on your hands. Plus wax is one of the best lubricants for bike chains.
@@Leviathandk Obviously wearring gloves and doing it outside is madatory and there are special cleaning gasoilines sold that contain less harmfull aromates and stuff like that. You shouldn't touch the gasoiline with bare hands or breathe the fumes.
Great video, For someone who is new to biking. I’ve just cleaned my chain and lubed it for the first time. I’ve made a CZcams video about it, I’ll release it in a couple of days once I edit it.
Wd40 will strip everything from inside the rollers so if you do this method make sure you give it a lube straight away and wipe off excess . Chains do come with a good factory lube and whilst far too sticky to use on the outside it does a fantastic job on the rollers inside that you can't see .you'll be surprised how well it remix s in there .
I like this wax chain lube ive got cos the whole drivetrain is pretty much silent and crud doesn't stick to it but the only problem it after washing the bike the chain gets surface rust on the links.
I remember have a Raleigh MTB , must of been 87 ish, it hardly ever had a wash , my dad would pump tyres till they were rock , bolts were done up as tight as they would go , once in a while he sprayed WD on the gearing and it never missed a beat that thing even after thousands of miles, marketing just wants us to spend a fortune on products to clean each part basically 🙈
Thanks for the video. 👍🏻👍🏻 It looks like you are using Bike Protect on a Matte frame?? I have a matte black MTB myself and are concerned if the Bike Protect result, will make the frame “shine” too much afterwards?? Mostly because I love the matte finish. Thnx
Yes, we have heard of people who still choose to heat up and wax chains. However, this used to be a more common back in the old days. People realised that there was no need to heat up the wax and melt it to the chain as it can be dissolved in a mild solvent. After this solution is applied the solvent evaporates, leaving just the wax-based ‘dry’ lubricant. It's a lot less hassle and saves having to split and rejoin the chain every time!
Yes. I wax after every 8 hours of riding, more frequently in wet conditions. It takes so little time to do, and despite what you hear about "solvent based waxes" - they don't work as advertised. Molten Speed Wax is the go.
Managing contamination is a pain. Today I was in between changing brake pads on one bike and degreasing the cassette on another bike. I moved about 4m away from the exposed brake pads sitting on the bench to spray some foam degreaser onto a rag. Unfortunately I didn't notice the draft in my shed that immediately carried some of the particles directly over to the brake pads like a flock of homing pigeons. I was like "Oh FFS, really?!"
Surprised nobody has answered this yet. I would do it. Not all derailleur/shifters share the same incremental mesasurements when shifting, even if they’re both the same gear count. Best to stick what your drivetrain is. There was a link that someone, maybe Park Tools (maybe not) that showed what all they’ve found that can cross reference with each other.
A tooth toothbrush and other household brushes are good but we prefer to use specialist brushes can help prevent scratching the paintwork and can make the job easier. A cassette cleaning brush can really help get in between the rings!
Hooray Henry , or , ...... well , no , very good actually ......... pretty much reinforces what I did just this afternoon before tea , take the chain orff and clean the bejesus out of it and the rest of the drive train before lubing each roller and refitting the chain and riding slowly and gently on the pedals around my front yard in each of the 12 gears to evenly distribute the lube over the cassette , using a wax based lube myself as when dry it limits the build up of grit and grime a fair bit more than oil based lubes . My drive rain was covered in crap as I rode yesterday after our local area coped about 200 mm of rain over the previous 3 days , sand and mud were the alternating surfaces I rode on .
WD40..i drown my bike in it after a wash..including the calipers and discs. Its NOT a lubricant..it disperses any water left in the nooks and crannies. It dries after an hour. After that lube it up.
If you wash your bike with soap for dishes or other ways to clean it because you want to save money you need to watch out for your disc brakes because some of the products have oil in it. Do guys watch out before you buy or apply the wrong stuff!
@@Drago0900 ended up crashing and had to big cuts on my elbows and hip. Could’ve gone a lot worse though so still quite thankful that I’m in one piece LOL
@@hfvvffvhh9719 Well atleast you won’t do that again right? A walmart bike assembler sprayed wd 40 on my brakes when I was like 12 and they were even louder because they were mechanicals and never had good grip.
#askgmbn The bolt connecting my rear shock to the linkage came out during a ride. Its a horst linkage bike and so the pivot ended up smashing into the shock and crushing the valve. Is it possible to replace the outer upper section of the shock or do I have to spring for a new one?
What drivetrain maintenance mistakes has Henry missed? Let us know👇
I do pay a lot of attention also when rinsing my cassette as the contaminated water, carrying oil from the cassette can spray on to the disc rotor. I like to wrap the rotor in a clean rug when washing the cassette :)
How to easily clean the compressed black gunk that accumulates on the surface of pulleys and chain rings where the chain's rollers fit?
@@FedBiker I use toothbrush for that (old one of course)
@fedbiker switch to squirt wax based lube now and watch the difference .trick is to apply to a spotless dry drivetrain.lube night before ride and lube twice on first application...its a revelation and i wont touch anything else
IF you notice that your chain has streched - it's time for a new bike!
Not sure who this guy is but he's very good. Everything was well explained, good length, and even a bit amusing.
Thanks Andy! This is Henry from GMBN Tech. Here is a link to the channel
👉 gmbn.eu/subscribetogmbntech
Guess ur new to gmbn...its Henry 'the prof' Quinney, from gmbn tech mainly. He was pro race team tech...know his bikes and his socks😁
I remember the time my brother thought it would be a good idea to WD40 his entire bike! Brakes included 😔
Migatron1 that must have been a bad day for him 😂😬
My dads mates used to do it on purpose to each others brakes. Bet they were fast dh
😭
Great to clean the cassette thought
Some say he is still rolling today
I've just cleaned my bike and watched this. Now I am crying.
Easy way to avoid brake contamination (discs or rim brake for that matter) is remove the wheels and place them a decent distance away from the bike before lubing everything up. You can also put cheap freezer bags over the calipers and seal off with an elastic band. Then make sure you wait for the lube to cure off or any excess to drip off (I leave mine an hour) before putting the wheels back on.
Bloody love Henry. As good a signing for GMBN as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
Jack Dempsey he’s not wrong
YNWA!!
I agree , Almost makes up for that one total knob we all have to put up with on GMBN .
@@Oldfatbeerman who was that? Scotty Laughland?
I've have my own method of applying lube to chain, and cassette. I use an pure bristle half inch lining fitch, ( paint brush) I load the brush with lube and apply it to the whole drivetrain. It works perfectly with no contamination of any other components. Try it, you won't look back.
Some great tips Henry ...I cover my brakes using a large sandwich bag .stops any contamination from spray
I always take any shower caps I might find in hotels, etc. There are also plastic wrap products with rubber bands at the edges for covering dishes/leftovers... these are nice to shield brakes and rotors and even to keep your seat clean/dry when parked.
I lube each individual roller one by one, not just running the chain along under the lube nozzle...weirdly satisfying detailed task
Is it possible to over clean your chain and drivetrain, especially when using a degreaser?
It’s totally possible to overdo degreaser. You want your lube worked into the inside of the rollers around the linking pins of the chain. No point in washing it all out each time. I only use degreaser sparingly on a rag or about once or twice a year to soak the chain.
I use a bit of foam from a sponge when I apply chain lube, wet or dry... Soak the chain and catch the excess in the sponge, then rub the moistened sponge all along the drive train to collect any excess lube that might have dropped out of the rollers... Helps keep the bike and the garage clean from spills and seems to prevent the extra grime and debris pickup from riding.
I didn't know about letting dry lube set for a moment before wiping it down, gonna remember that for next time
What video was that with Sam pilgrim and Blake putting grease everywhere! Haha
I have the same question..?
"How Not To Maintain Your Bike With Blake Samson & Sam Pilgrim", amazing video
👀👉 gmbn.eu/notclean 🤣
@@gmbn no thats the wrong link...
czcams.com/video/pOTrojLDdK4/video.html
I watched this to make sure I’ve been doing it right for the last 23 years.
I've never one cleaned mine and it works fine 🤷♂️
@@timyassa4343 I do it for looks tbh
@@timyassa4343 You must live somewhere with nice roads and mellow weather. If I leave my bike without cleaning for more than 2 days, it would be caked in mud and rusted.
@@sassyassasin2712 nah I just put it back in the garage when I'm done
I’m lucky to have cabinet’s full of quality car detailing supplies...my other passion. Most of the products I use for decontamination, cleaning and protecting work extremely well for bikes. Most of the materials and parts you find on vehicles clean up and protect the same way with Mountain bikes. One of my favorite products I use is Carpro ECH2O. It’s a waterless wash and quick detailer. It’s an Sio2 based product that helps protect the paint and plastics on vehicles. I use it after the wash on all the painted and plastic surfaces...especially on the suspension. Creates a super slick surface that repels water and crud .makes cleanup the next time around super easy. Most of the mud and crud just rinses off with minimal work!!
(Sorry, different cleaning topic) I used muc off to clean my bicycle, but it is some really aggresive stuff, it ate away a layer of paint after a minute. Not for plastic bikes I guess! I use it with a little water now.
I put a bit on each pin and then rotate the drive train a few dozen times to work it in and then wipe any surface oil away with a rag buy turning the drivechain with the chain wrapped in a clean rag. Seems to work well and stops dirt building up on the chains surface.
Awesome ! My bike is now so much cleaner and nicer. It really help me how to clean it and also how to use the right tool.
Best socks ever😂🤘
I still don't know if you have to lubricate the cassette or not?
I tought a clean cassette and lubricated chain is the way to go?
Next. De derailleur and the bottom bracket. Can you use some spray lubricant?
We need the link to that Sam Pilgrim and Blake video with the grease please lol
Here it is Simon 👉 gmbn.eu/notclean 🤦♂️🤣
We need the grease one
@@gmbn Thank you very much, sorry for the late reply. I did not get notified that you had replied. Cheers.
@@gmbn Sorry but that's not the grease one but was still good cheers.
How do you quickly clean your muddy tyres after a ride? Those tyres look brand new.
New sponsor, so they prob are
These tyres are new, but Henry always keeps his bike clean! 🧽✨
@GMBN. Nice that you’ve a new sponsor. But how do you keep those tyres clean after a Ride. Most of the time in de vids the tyres are clean.
Check these videos out 👇
gmbn.tech/cleanbike
gmbn.eu/10minwash
Cover the cassette and deurallier with TFR and jet wash it...brings it up a treat!
I'm taking a totaly different approach:
1. Take a paper towel and remove excessive mud
2. Remove the chain and throw it in a jar 1/3 to 1/2 full of gasoiline
3. Shake the chain in the closed jar for 2-3 to remove the dirt even from the rollers
4. Hang the chain somewher to dry off
5. Start to heat up some wax
6. Clean the remaining drivetrain components with the remaining gasoiline
7. apply a drop of oil to the pulley wheel bearings/bushings
8. let the chain sit in the 105-110 °C hot wax for a minute
9. Pull it out and let it cool down on some paper towels
10. Mount the chain again
That way you clean and lubricate the chain inbetween pins and rollers while slowing down new dirt from entering it.
Wax doesn't attract dirt like oil and grease do, it repels it.
That means your drivetrain stays cleaner longer and even touching your chain doesn't leave any black residue on your hands.
Plus wax is one of the best lubricants for bike chains.
Please stop using gasoline. Its unhealthy as hell.
@@Leviathandk Obviously wearring gloves and doing it outside is madatory and there are special cleaning gasoilines sold that contain less harmfull aromates and stuff like that.
You shouldn't touch the gasoiline with bare hands or breathe the fumes.
dies ist kein Name: Old school way to clean chains and bearings was to use kerosene. FAR LESS DANGEROUS than gasoline and just as effective.
@@mrsmartypants_1 mystery oil
I use terpentine
Use shower caps to cover your rotor and brake caliper if u need to use a lube spray.
Chain lube is best done the day before a ride. Very slow to set or cure the chain products unless they have high amounts of solvent.
Great video, For someone who is new to biking. I’ve just cleaned my chain and lubed it for the first time. I’ve made a CZcams video about it, I’ll release it in a couple of days once I edit it.
I use wd40 and a toilet brush and it works great. My drivetrain is immaculate
Thomas Hardbattle but your toilet is disgusting.
That’s what I do as well aha
Thomas Hardbattle same, take off chain, clean it with wd40, then brush it in water, dry and it’s clean as new
Wd40 will strip everything from inside the rollers so if you do this method make sure you give it a lube straight away and wipe off excess .
Chains do come with a good factory lube and whilst far too sticky to use on the outside it does a fantastic job on the rollers inside that you can't see .you'll be surprised how well it remix s in there .
knott 4me I know, after brushing in water I wait about an hour to dry and then i lube it
I like this wax chain lube ive got cos the whole drivetrain is pretty much silent and crud doesn't stick to it but the only problem it after washing the bike the chain gets surface rust on the links.
Wax lubes are very short lived...its designed to flake off...re-apply every 10 - 15 miles
It is good to use car brake cleaner in spray can, to clean the chain and cassette?
What do you mean by contamination of brakes? Is that just a way of saying that the brakes will become dirty?
I remember have a Raleigh MTB , must of been 87 ish, it hardly ever had a wash , my dad would pump tyres till they were rock , bolts were done up as tight as they would go , once in a while he sprayed WD on the gearing and it never missed a beat that thing even after thousands of miles, marketing just wants us to spend a fortune on products to clean each part basically 🙈
what handlebar is that? how much rise? how much back sweep?
Use a drip style lube not spray i use a wax based lube
Fantastic tips as usual from Henry!
Jeez, how I miss Henry on GMBN.
Thanks for the video. 👍🏻👍🏻
It looks like you are using Bike Protect on a Matte frame??
I have a matte black MTB myself and are concerned if the Bike Protect result, will make the frame “shine” too much afterwards??
Mostly because I love the matte finish.
Thnx
Hi do u think its OK for me to use no more dirty bike cleaner on my bike 🤔
Cheers Henry great tips their 👍
What's the aerosol used for? I'm new to biking
Thanks for the video, im new to this so really nice to learn.
Though, should i only lube the chain or should i put some lube on the cassetes as well?
A small line along the inside of the chain should be fine
Great video... but I've seen roadies have gone crazy for wax on their chains, would that work out for mtbs too ?
Yes, we have heard of people who still choose to heat up and wax chains. However, this used to be a more common back in the old days. People realised that there was no need to heat up the wax and melt it to the chain as it can be dissolved in a mild solvent. After this solution is applied the solvent evaporates, leaving just the wax-based ‘dry’ lubricant. It's a lot less hassle and saves having to split and rejoin the chain every time!
Yes. I wax after every 8 hours of riding, more frequently in wet conditions. It takes so little time to do, and despite what you hear about "solvent based waxes" - they don't work as advertised. Molten Speed Wax is the go.
What did he used to spray to wipe on his frame and chain
I just bought today a muc off chain lube What are the chances.
Managing contamination is a pain. Today I was in between changing brake pads on one bike and degreasing the cassette on another bike. I moved about 4m away from the exposed brake pads sitting on the bench to spray some foam degreaser onto a rag. Unfortunately I didn't notice the draft in my shed that immediately carried some of the particles directly over to the brake pads like a flock of homing pigeons. I was like "Oh FFS, really?!"
shouod you clean the brushes and the wire brush after?
What's the difference between normal washing-up liquid and them expensive bike wash products? And can I use them on all parts of the bike?
Washing up liquid contains salt - quite a lot of salt in fact. Salt breaks down oils but is extremely corrosive.
Washing up liquid contains salts, not good to use on metals or paint for obvious reasons.
Is it bad to use muc off spray on your cassette and chain
I use compressed air after a chain clean or the whole bike. Blow the water out and re lube
Gmbn 🤛🏻
🤘👊
Is it bad if i get foaming chain cleaner on my brake pads?
Nice video bud, well spoken and to the point.
What do I use to clean my electric bikes cassette ?
Love your videos
Thanks Ethan! 🤘
Is the muc off drivetrain cleaner safe on disc brakes
Yes
what headset brand and type are those on your nukeproof? thanks
When I washed my bike for the first time the breaks were squeaky so I sprayed the rotors with wd-40
Toplad Harry!
Cheers for the tips!
Oh, now I learn I should lube each roller on the chain once, not 2-3 times...*sigh*...so that's why I go through chain lube so quickly.
Gmbn. Can you replace a Shimano derailer with a sram Derailer please answer
Surprised nobody has answered this yet. I would do it. Not all derailleur/shifters share the same incremental mesasurements when shifting, even if they’re both the same gear count. Best to stick what your drivetrain is. There was a link that someone, maybe Park Tools (maybe not) that showed what all they’ve found that can cross reference with each other.
Thanks for the tips
good tips!
Wish it had an outside indicator for when full
That one on the chain is so true
how to clean the chain?
Nice tips 👌
I've seen this video at least 5 times I think, between this and GCN
After watching your video I realized I have more common sense then I thought I had lol
How did you mount that Garmin on your top tube? :-)
Crith Yewbank...
Good job!
Yep I cleaned my chain before I lubed but I used a toothbrush on my cassette lol
Old toothbrushes are great! I learned the hard way that they don't work well if you're trying to clean something with gasoline!
perfect for the job
A tooth toothbrush and other household brushes are good but we prefer to use specialist brushes can help prevent scratching the paintwork and can make the job easier. A cassette cleaning brush can really help get in between the rings!
@@gmbn Where can I get one. And I got the toothbrush idea from Seth's bike hacks
was distracted by the socks tbh whahha btw good tips
Hooray Henry , or , ...... well , no , very good actually ......... pretty much reinforces what I did just this afternoon before tea , take the chain orff and clean the bejesus out of it and the rest of the drive train before lubing each roller and refitting the chain and riding slowly and gently on the pedals around my front yard in each of the 12 gears to evenly distribute the lube over the cassette , using a wax based lube myself as when dry it limits the build up of grit and grime a fair bit more than oil based lubes . My drive rain was covered in crap as I rode yesterday after our local area coped about 200 mm of rain over the previous 3 days , sand and mud were the alternating surfaces I rode on .
#AskGMBN Do you think adding Nukeproof copper parts to a bright yellow bike is a good idea? Love the show! Thanks.
Watching Sam Pilgrim dumping tons of Vasoline on the headset is priceless.....ever watch him use a brick to put in a star nut? ha ha.
what was he spraying on his matt black frame?
looks like the muc off protect and shine product maybe
Kinder bueno! ☹️
Christ Henry give a proper example of a Chocolate bar, I’m pretty sure it would be sacrilege to even class it as such a thing😂
Had to watch this twice, those socks completely distracted me 😂
I have been waiting for a video for a while...
WD40..i drown my bike in it after a wash..including the calipers and discs. Its NOT a lubricant..it disperses any water left in the nooks and crannies. It dries after an hour. After that lube it up.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing these tips :)
Blake is just straight savage
Cleaned my cassette and chain with warm soapy water and a brush, lubed the chain & doing this has made the drivetrain mega noisy. You just cant win.
How much does this bike cost
Oh my god Sam pilgrim I’m a fan
just what i wanted to know
Hard bristle on the frame ... LMAO!
Hahaha Boom boom, nice reference 😂
Using any brush will scratch your paint. Leave it for the drivetrain and use only microfiber towels and soapy water
Yeah, yeah, clean here, use that, don't do this.... Let's talk about those sox you're wearing! They're f***ing amazing! 😉
Hands up if you use fairy liquid and some elbow grease!
If you wash your bike with soap for dishes or other ways to clean it because you want to save money you need to watch out for your disc brakes because some of the products have oil in it. Do guys watch out before you buy or apply the wrong stuff!
#askgmbn Hi Henry. How did you fix your Garmin on the top tube? I am looking for a decent solution there... Thanks in advance!
You could try Gopro style adhesive 3m pads....heat the pad glue with a lighter til it just melts, and apply. Wont ever come off!
I was wondering about that as well
Yeah, this mount is somehow... out of the box..
On my first bike, the rear brakes were squeaking a lot, so I thought wd 40 would help it
Jesus How did that go?
@@Drago0900 ended up crashing and had to big cuts on my elbows and hip. Could’ve gone a lot worse though so still quite thankful that I’m in one piece LOL
@@hfvvffvhh9719 Well atleast you won’t do that again right? A walmart bike assembler sprayed wd 40 on my brakes when I was like 12 and they were even louder because they were mechanicals and never had good grip.
@@Drago0900 oh wow
vere good
aforemenTENd?
God I always use way too much lube I need to stop
#askgmbn The bolt connecting my rear shock to the linkage came out during a ride. Its a horst linkage bike and so the pivot ended up smashing into the shock and crushing the valve. Is it possible to replace the outer upper section of the shock or do I have to spring for a new one?
Assembly grease had me crying
Damn Bon Jovi got owned. That was gangster.