ROBBERY?!! Who Really Won? (Jan Blachowicz vs Magomed Ankalaev)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 21. 12. 2022
- Jan Blachowicz vs Magomed Ankalaev ended in a controversial draw. So let's breakdown the fight in who actually should've won.
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No way Jan's leg kicks can be classified as light, just a couple of his leg kicks can change the course of a fight, and we've seen even when he fought reyes the kick didnt look too hard but it proceeded to turn reyes purple. He kicks HARD, some of the best leg kicks / checks in the ufc
Yeah heâs being a tad biased on this Jan throws a push kick itâs âlightâ when Maggy does it, itâs a medium ? Jan rolling with it doesnât mean it did damage, especially when you look as his un damaged body
@@DADRB0B55 based on reactions bro take your biases out of it.
So we consider all of Jan's kicks as heavy even if no reaction from his opponent in that specific round?
The weasel is clearly biased for any Dagestani. Itâs super obvious if youâve been a long time viewer. Itâs sad he canât admit his bias when itâs so obvious
@@truthseeker96 There was reaction
Said it a hundred times, if a fight need 1000 breakdowns and people are arguing constantly who won and who lost, it deserve to be a draw.
Especially this one, since non of them was currently holding the title.
So Glover vs Hill, as strange as it is, probably is the most logical decision.
You mean Magomed will win only if he finish Jan ? you mean UFC having judges is useless ? đ
@@aizzaddanial2951 In no way did he say that
really not that hard to understand!
@@aizzaddanial2951 wtf man where did he say anything close to thatđ€Ł
They canât just decide that the fight is gonna be a draw , the fight has to be decided by scoring rounds.
Man seems like Weasel has a few favourite fighters that he wants to win and will bend over backwards when he can to give them the round. The only thing damaging in round 1 was Jan's kicks. Magomed getting destabilized and bouncing on 1 leg was the only clear visual of a fighter reacting to damage or pain. Jan won round 1.
Yeah, people put so much into these breakdowns. Jan won Round 1, wouldn't be surprised if Weasle is on a payroll for Russia since he's a dickrider for Kabob.
Nah , it's Jan that's getting that from you buddy.
You're clearly the one biased in favor of Jan
@@truthseeker96 nope, hes right
@@truthseeker96 cmon bruh you know you're a massive Ankalaev fan, you were pushing for him to get immediate title shot over glover, look how that turned out
I honestly think Jan still scored more damage in round 1. Swelled up the orbital of ankalaev pretty badly. And while ankalaev did throw a lot of those front kicks to the body if you go back and watch after round 1, the amount of redness and swelling on ankalaevs body was way more significant. Also those leg kicks from Jan are NOT light strikes, not to mention the countless checks he landed. The damage department was honestly kind of dominated by Jan in the first 3 which is why ankalaev felt the need to take it to the mat. This is a rare occasion where I agree with a draw.
Yeah these people are fools. Jan won the round 1 very handily based on visibility of damage but Weasle gives it to Ankaleav based on 1 (opinionated harder shot). He's a con artist. (Weasle)
@@AgentMMA1 Yea because he's never trained nor does he have any athletic ability hence be can't tell how a body actually reacts in motion and I'ma fight. No clue what strikes are actually effective and actually cause damage.
@@alankochan does he not train? I just assumed he did.
@@AgentMMA1 youâre the con artist if you think visibility = damage
@@alankochan Weasle fights dummy
The thing is - kicks from Jan that look light, are not light at all. Some people are build in the way that sloppy and loose punches are the harderst. You cannot measure power of punches just by the way it look. Jan proved many times, that punch that doesn't look deadly may put you out cold.
Edit: argument that there was no "visible damage" after these leg kicks is ridiculous - Ankalaev was visibly destabilazed after some of leg kicks in RD1. My question is - WHERE IS VISIBLE DAMAGE ON JAN FROM ANKALAEV THEN IN RD1?
This is ridiculous that you put these round 1 low kick to "light" category. Sorry, not at all.
agreed, insane lol
According to the scoring criteria, they do not "seem" damaging because Ankalaev gave no reaction to them being damaging except for like 2 of them.
Exactly. Calls all those strikes as light and equates them to those of Ankalaev but rounds 2 & 3 showed that they have actually had a huge impact. If damage trumps all then the next 2 rounds clearly show that Jan did way more dmg in the first. Its ridiculous how people can't grasp the idea of cumulative dmg.
@@TheWeasleMMA Trying to rationalize an irrational system is going to bring up many issues. I am not too sure how someone can quantify the amount of damage a person is feeling in a fight, and that is why this system is irrational to begin with.
Not saying youâre biased but Itâs crazy how you could consider that teep kick from Magomed as a âmediumâ level damaging strike yet considered most of Janâs leg kicks as âlight.â Considering how by the end of round 2, Magomedâs leg was virtually disabled, it seems apparent that those leg kick were substantial.
Anakalev showed no big reaction to the leg kicks until round 2. You don't score round 1 based on what happens later in round 2
Weasle is biased for Muslim fighters. I don't see how he doesn't see it. He's clearly a level heard person.
Magomed did feel those first kicks. Everyone and their moms saw those kicks and the damage they did.
It's based on reactions not your opinions take your own biases out of it
@@pizzapozz7733 u are dumb af
@@ChaosReaper426 "u are dumb af" nice choice of words!
Thank you for showing everyone your intellectual prowess
Honestly, i think most of the controversy was because of the ridiculous decision that came before it.
Personally, I thought a draw was a pretty good call
Exactly I donât even know why there were so many robbery comments after the fight and I thought Ankalaev won
Yeah Jan destroyed Magomed's body. So I think draw is better than Magomed win.
Yeh it was a perfect storm of finish after finish then Gordon /Pimblett changed the vibes significantly
If this was a draw Strickland vs cannonier should be a draw. Hell there should be draws more often in the UFC then.
@@quas3728 body? Leg kicksđ
You're counting most Jan's leg kicks as "light" because Ankalaev "didn't really react to it." then reward Ankalaev a "medium" strike for most of his front kicks that didn't look impactful or damaging also never causing Jan to react. Whereas Jan's leg kicks clearly look damaging and definitely impacted the round more than any of those front kicks Ankalaev threw. Fighters train themselves to not react (to a certain extent obviously) when taking shots, so you can't only score impactfulness of strikes based off reactions. You're rewarding Ankalaev far too much for his strikes and not rewarding Jan enough. I think Jan edged out the first round by having the more damaging and impactful shots but I think there's a good argument for a 10-10. In conclusion, I think the draw was the correct decision.
You're basing this off the next 2 rounds which is based on speculation and not how the rules define "damage." Sure we can make an argument that the leg kicks started the damage in the 1st round, but you can also say that ONLY the leg kicks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds were the damaging ones. This is why I don't go off speculation and only by what the rules state.
@@TheWeasleMMA The 1st round was razor thin, all 3 judges had it for Yan, i had it for Yan. Yan clearly won 2 and 3. One of the judges somehow gave the 3rd round to Magomed. Magomed clearly won 4 and 5 with a 10-8 for the 5th. The judges have an advantage being ringside as they can hear the force of the strikes landing much better than we can on TV. I have been to many UFC fights live and been close to ringside a several times and it is a different when you are watching it live. The judges might have seen some of Yans light strikes as you called them as medium or heavy strikes due to being close to the action and being able to hear the impact of the strikes, therefore they saw it as Yan doing more damage. Not to mention watching it on TV we have to listen to Rogan and DC with their biased commentary all the time which can have a big affect on public opinion. A draw was not a bad decision
Lol another white McGregor fan who hates Dagestanis to this day
@@TheWeasleMMAIf all but 1 of Jan's leg kicks in the first round are "light" strikes then how do you classify Ankalaev's front kicks as "medium"? That is the only part I disagree with you on because if you reward that extra damage to Ankalaev (when they weren't damaging) then Ankalaev would've been the rightful winner as you said in your video but I don't see how they can be anymore damaging than a "light" attack when Jan has no reaction and they don't even look damaging just like you said about Jan's leg kicks. Also just wanna say I love the breakdowns/predictions/who really won videos you do, I always look forward to your uploads and hearing your thoughts and appreciate you responding.
@@flyingspghetti_ go cry somewhere else. Ankalaev was the clear winner and your boy received favor because of politics. Accept the reality and move on.
How is the hook that Jan landed that swelled up magomeds eye considered a light strike to you? Jan landed slightly more damage in round 1. Convenient you count magomeds light strikes as medium and jans medium as light strikes to give the slight edge to magomed. Jan 1-2-3. Magomed 4 and 5 with a 10-8 to save him from losing
@@jamesroberts7262 How do you make a video of the strikes in slow mo and not see Jan landed the cleaner strikes with slightly more power. I was on the fence thinking i was wrong (live I gave the 1st to Jan), but after watching it back and now seeing this video there's no doubt in my mind that Jan won the 1st three rounds. Magomed got 4 and 5 with the 10-8. Draw was the right decision
48-46 is the score. This was a very close fight until the 5th round. Would love to see the rematch, in contrary to some people thinking it was boring.
I want to address the argument some are making:
You can't score round 1 based off round 2. I completely understand that the leg damage could've started in round 1 but the leg kicks that hurt Magomed in the next rounds were to his shin and most of the leg kicks in round 1 were to the thigh. You have to score strikes by the reaction you see from them, not off speculation that this leg kick or that leg kick started a cumulation of damage. We can't go off speculation.
The fight was absolutely great!! Dana was smoking crack I guess. I would love to see the rematch.
Your ide what is hard or not is incorrect. Jan needed maybe 1-3 more calf/shin kicks to finish the fight. How much more did Magomed needed to actually finish the fight? A round? Two? Damage trumps all and the man who is fine should have lost bu the man who can barely stand win?
@@ivandelac764 you clearly donât understand how mma scoring works. Damage doesnât always trump all, jan did do damage in rounds 2 and 3 but he couldâve gotten finished in round 5.
I think in the Rematch Ankalaev will shoot for a takedown from the get go.
@@ivandelac764 The man who can barely stand absoluetly mauled Jan in round 5. So many unanswered blows, you can also say maybe magomed was 3 or 4 punches away from getting the finish. What is your point?
Jan's left hook that you said was just a grazing blow and light, left visible damage on Ankalaev's face.
lol I can't believe this weasel kid sometimes
Don't act surprised as he's known for worshipping Dagestanis. All that's missing in this video is the usual kebob thumbnail.
i think what a lot of people arenât talking about is that one judge gave round 3 to ankalaev and if he scored it for jan jan wins the fight. i donât know how anyone couldâve scored round 3 for ankalaev
No, they scored the 1st 3 rds for Jan. The remaining 2 rds went to magomed with last one being a 10-8!
The 1st should have went to magomed.
No it wouldn't change anything, it would have been 47-47 on his scorecards, and it would be a majority draw
It's equally absurd as some judges giving round 5 a 10-9
@@Aamirmhmd99 Based on what exactly? The lumps on his head or his legs? đ
@@truthseeker96 I thought round 5 was a 10-8 too but Idk anymore. We've seen far more one-sided rounds be called 10-9 with no controversy and Jan was actually throwing heavy stuff from the bottom. Those elbows were no joke.
Honestly I don't believe Jan won, but people who think Ankalaev won for those 2 last rounds are insane. Ankalaev took WAY more damage in this fight. A draw is justified.
Having done Muay Thai and Taekwondo, those push kicks didn't look very damaging at all, it looks like a huge impact because he's pushing Blachowicz away, it's slightly different from a front kick to the body which definitely does damage. But I definitely would not consider any of those medium shots by any means, same goes with the teep to Jan's knee. They aren't damaging blows, it's meant to throw your opponent off balance and create some space
agreed, he keeps giving it to Ank for jan fading away, but that;s what's taking all the power off anks strikes
Exactly what I was gonna comment the ones that push you away donât hurt. Itâs the snappy ones that are really fast like Sean OâMalley throws or Conor that hurt you. Or even Gane. Those are the ones that hurt
100% a medium for those push kicks is absurd
He has knocked out people with his front kicks. What do you men
@@IqbalIqbal-kx9pf yeah, to the JAW. lol. Not push kicks to the belly.
This was scored correctly. it's only debated because of paddy vs. Gordon took place beforehand, which was a robbery.
Come on, it definitely would have been debated even if the Paddy vs Gordon fight never happened. Close fights are always debated
Says a lot about how detrimental shitty judging/scoring is to the sport.
@@outrageous1043 true but not to this magnitude
@@karnage2948 Because this is recent and super close. Same thing happened in the Woodley vs Wonderboy draw
@JohnQueSacc 100% but the anger shouldn't be directed at this fight at all
I think Jan Blachowicz won rounds 1,2,3
How?
Stop itâŠ
i agree
123 jan
45 ancheliav 5 being 10-8
@@ImJayy583 and thatâs how the draw came about, why people just canât also see that as an option to score this fight to me is crazy man
@@brandosshow3026 i mean it was a close fight i can see all arguments
Ankalaev shouldnât be mad. This fight wasnât supposed to be for a title lol
What are you smoking. He got robbed of a Win. Of course he should be mad
@@noelnoni7310
No he didnt. Weasle will always pick a dagestani no matter what. His opinion here is irrelevant because of his bias
@@noelnoni7310 Eh it wasnât that bad, cejudo vs DJ 2 was that bad but it was draw
@@AlphaQHard He literally picked Oliveira to beat Makachev, wdym he always picks dagestanis theyâre just that good đ€Šââïž
@@AlphaQHard stop being a dummy. Even Jan said give the belt to Ankalaev. Nothing biased about it. Round 1, 4 and 5 to Ankalaev with a 10-8 round in the end. 48-46
i dont think some of the pushkicks should count as medium because they moved jan, thats the point of the kick but doesnt mean they were actually damaging.
He only counted 1 push kick as medium out of like 5 light ones
@@outrageous1043 false... 3 out of the 4 medium strikes were from push kicks, with one landing to the front of jan's leg.
@@TheZubaz No dude, he only counted the first push kick as medium. Trust me watch it again
@@outrageous1043 Dude dont tell me to watch it again when you clearly havent. medium strike 1, 3 and 4 are from push kicks.
@@TheZubaz 2:58 was the third medium, does that really look like a push kick to u?? No its a leg kick..
2:10 was a punch, first one was a push kick
That round 1 score is weird. Especially considering how hard the lek kicks affected Magomed and how little body kicks affected Jan. Not to mention checks, that also do damage.
To me it the score is 47-47
Yeah they effected him so much he kept bouncing around like nothing that whole 1st rnd absolute clown show in the comments lol
You undervalue Blahowic's leg kicks, if a few of those kill the leg, then they are not "light strikes", Sir :-) compare to light jabs
he got to eat a Jan leg kick to understand
Those front (teep) kicks are hard to score.
Because they are often a thrown as a "push kick" the target's response (being push backwards) can seem like it was more impactful.
Yeah that's my thinking too. All Anks front kicks were push kicks and this is literally the point - to push someone back. If either of the fighters would shoulder barge the other would it be classified as a heavy strike because guy had to take few steps back? Of course not. I still think the most damaging shot was the leg kick Jan threw that made Ank change stances. Overall round was a draw, fight was a draw.
The method falls apart when scoring chito fights. Sure, great you can add up math if you slow down the fight, but that's now how fights are judged. But damage doesn't equal cumulative strikes.
I agree, I'm just going off what the rules state as "damage."
I disagree with the scoring of yans leg kick I think they hurt way more than your giving him credit for.
Canât really blame the judges for misscoring r1 in real time considering it was so close
bruv you can clearly see its ankalev bro cmon iwas so furious i would have 400 dollars man from 20 dollars
@@VishJR07 ahahaha I feel ur pain my man
@@VishJR07 Youâre Just mad that you lost money lol
@@FirstnameLastname-do1px i am but it was clear bro im realistic as well and i was so sure ankalaev won 1,4,5 and i got the money
They didnt "misscore" it. They used their judgment in a really close round and scored it for jan. This video is an opinion piece and shouldn't be taken as objective.
Would be great to see more of these âwho really wonâ breakdowns at the end of the year for requested fights you havenât already made videos on
Rose vs Carla 2 needs a deeper look
@@woahblackbetty7691 Please god no. Plus he already basically broke that down, Carla won on aggression/octagon control.
â@@woahblackbetty7691That fight was a banger
@@MrSaurus best fight in ufc history? Or is Ngannou//Lewis giving them a run for their money? đ€
I mean considering we actually had to go to aggressiveness to see who won the first just shows how close it was
Thanks for the breakdown Weasel great to here your take on this close match. Well needed episode
Weasle**
No problem brother
You talked about the one odd leg kick that Jan hit mid round and mentioned it was a bigger impact but you scored it as a light impact.
smh this weasel guy frustrates me
He worships Dagestanis
I feel for Jan if we had a time machine and could take him to the Chuck Liddell era, Jan would have been a DOMINANT champ for multiple years. He caught his stride right after Jon Jones left and in his mid to late thirties. Jan might not get remembered by the casuals 5-10 years from now, but all of us in the know will remember how God damn good he was. I feel similarly about Glover too. Us old heads have to tell these young kids how good those two were 5-10 years from now.
Majority of fighters in the ufc today would be a champ back then. The sport has evolved into what it is today because of those top fighters of the past and those top fighters cause the talent level to have to be better in order to compete with them.
Credit to Jan for being an honorable man đ
I thought Jan was honorable, but he turned out not to be that honorable ... he later changed his mind and actually beleive that he won, when in fact he lost that fight ... no way Jan won that fight ... so no, he is not that much of an honorable man!
@@darthvader6005 no he didnât ever say he won he says he agrees with the draw
Jan later returned on twitter said a bunch of bs and that judges got it right, etc, bad image for him to change the tune so quickly.
@@elyt777 if you want a rematch you should
@@darthvader6005 3-2, itâs either a draw or he won. Cope
thanks weasle, ive been waiting this video for a while
So one fighter invested in strikes that resulted in clear dmg and limited mobility of his opponent in the next rounds. Buuut you are arbitrarily assigning more effectiveness to the strikes of the other. All I am saying is that simply counting strikes seems as a very limited approach especially in such a close fight when dmg is the most important criteria. We need to evaluate strikes through their cumulative effect in later rounds as well. Especially when concerning volume strikers or leg kicks. Everything else seems as just a personal opinion of what 'hurts, sounds or looks' worse. Draw was fair
Each round is scored separate not cumulatively. Going by your logic of cumulative effect then Jan was the one losing that fight if it was to continue.
Not in the least. My idea is that you should take into consideration the showed dmg in later rounds when you score first rounds and only in case where they are very close rounds to begin with. And the sole reason for that is the fact that scoring criteria in its current form is completely subjective. You cant score honestly such a round based only on your arbitrarily perception of what constitutes of damage. There is no honest way of estimating dmg from outside of the cage. The weasle's methodology is imperfect and works only in rounds with clear discrepancy. In close rounds his final verdict constitutes of nothing more than his personal subjective opinion. At least there is an argument for Jan and the fact that the rules are not specified and elaborate enough do not change that. Anything else is just picking sides and pointless discussions
As for your implication that by my logic Jan was losing the last rounds. Precisely !!! He lost them and thats not a topic of discussion. In case of 5 minutes of control time on the ground there is no problem in deciding who damaged (exhausted) who more. Cumulative damage should be an indicator only in close rounds devoid of other aspects of the game such as take downs, effective grapling and so on. It is merely a last resort criteria to rationalise a purposefully vague scoring criteria - effective damage. I would like to hear what is your counter argument and why Magomed inflicted more effective damage than Jan.
facts
@@borisivanov4640 that's impossible to do or determine which leg kicks hurt someone if Jan blachowicz got hurt to the body in rnds 4 and 5 should we go back and evaluate those teeps more
Cant say I agree. If we're going off raw damage, there really wasn't any indication that Magomed was hurting Jan at all until the 4th round. Meanwhile you brought up that Magomed didn't like that one leg kick, and then the leg kicks just kept piling up on top of that
Jan's leg kick was the biggest strike in the round but it wasn't anything to win the round solely off of. Truth is neither did much damage there.
@@TheWeasleMMA so if we assess this contradictory statement, neither really doing any damage but Janâs attack being the most significant strike of the round. Who won the round then? You canât bypass significant damage and score a card based on aggression. đ€Šđ»ââïžđ
@@user-nb8mr2fr6yruh did you not watch the video. Even if Jan had the biggest strike in the round it was still a âmedium strikeâ because it didnât really hurt Magomed and the total strikes and damage were pretty much even. Magomed was the aggressor the whole round so he definitely won that round but it was razor thin
@@samrastagar8554 thereâs no such thing as a âmedium strikeâ according to ufc metrics. Thatâs just a stat line weasel came up with in order to push a certain narrative. There are only normal strikes and significant strikes.
I thought the draw as fair but Jan did more damage in the fight. Those leg kicks were nasty.
What about round three? That couldâve been a 10-8 to Jan. They couldâve stopped the fight that round.
Edit: I only watch the fight ones, but when I watched it, I was thinking that the ref could stop it at any moment that round. Iâve seen fight to get stopped before from somebodyâs leg. Been compromised. Think Chandler belitor.
Anyway, I agree this fight is a draw. If thereâs no clear winner than maybe a draw is appropriate.
How was round 3 in anyway 10-8? Jan won that round but thats far from a 10-8. How is this getting so many likes đ€Šââïž
@@outrageous1043 It was pretty close to 10-8 round. Ankalaev was barely walking that round. Jan made huge mistake not capitalize on the moment when he was limping around.
@@ps9501 It wasnt even close to a 10-8. Even a knockdown usually isnât enough for a 10-8. Ankalaev limped from a leg kick then controlled Jan with his grappling. Not enough to win the round by Ankalaev, but not close to a 10-8 by Jan
@@outrageous1043 definitely 10-8 ..magpmed was practically dead at that point. Should have stopped the fight
@@outrageous1043 I knew you would bring up the "grappling"
Official rules say damage trumps all. If you beat me hard with strikes first 4 minutes and i manage to survive by holding you against the cage last minute doesn't change the fact that i took mad damage-
It was a draw. Magomed had the more dominant last 2 rounds and Jan did much more damage throughout the fight
Nope Magomed won
Tbh I thought Ankalaev won considering the 10+ mins of control time and good ground and pound, but Blachowiczâs low kicks were BRUTAL! And if Ankalaev didnât start wrestling Jan wouldâve won it early
Are you going to do Sean Strickland vs Jared Cannonier breakdown?
It's hard to expect the UFC to spend 10-20 minutes after a fight dissecting every strike thrown to determine a result. Though I absolutely think, with close fights like this, they should do something of the sort, even if they initially declare it a 'temporary draw', while they decide.
Also, on the topic of scoring fights, and riding off the Pimblett v Jordon popularity, can we see some love for the Leech robery? Modern day UFC, with extreme commercial focus is becoming so tragic for the MMA community.
It baffles me how few people get this!
Yeah the uses leech as a tissue paper first opponent change than a shitty judges
I think itâs Jan 1-2-3, and no 10-8âs.
I'd argue the 1st round that awkward leg kick was heavy seeing magimedd who is extremely stoic to react to it.
The Weasle has a known bias for all fighters from the caucus regions. Why anyone takes this guy serious when it comes to dagestanis is hilarious.
thank you, itâs insane more people donât realize this. Must be a lot of new viewers.
I think it's fair to say some of those leg kicks Jan landed were heavy strikes. Ankalaev started limping in second half. Every kick was clearly hurting him so it's quite unfair to equal them damage wise to some light jab. You put 2 leg kicks to "medium" strike in 1st round but the fact is that 2 medium strikes shouldn't make Ankalaev unable to stand correctly.
Everytime a fighter is asked what hurts most leg kick or strike of equal power they always say the leg kick hurts way worse. Its crazy you dont understand that! Leg kicks did more damage.
Even though I agree that Ankalaev still won I think he deserved this, it was very stupid of to watch and feel Jans leg kicks being effective for 3 rounds and not take him down until the end of 3rd.
He should have secured a takedown early make Jan afraid to throw those leg kicks or just dominate the whole fight by outwrestling him
Like Cory Anderson did ? Man you fangirls are delusional he wouldâve just gotten knocked out if he chose to be one dimensional
Magmomed is not a wrestler and his legs knees buckling from kicks. That is likely not due to the kicks of Jan. I heard a firas zahabi say that both legs giving out were likely knee damage(lol or acl tears) from training. Its probably one of the reasons why he didn't want to wrestle at the start. Its crazy how he still outwrestled Jan.
Thanks for clarifying the criteria for 10-8 scores. Ankalaev definitely got a 10-8 5th round but the first round was so close a draw isn't unjustified.
bruh those Leg kicks destroyed Magomed. The fact you counted them as light or medium, it's ridiculous. An unbalance body kick, you counted as medium impact from Magomed, then Jan kicking while being Jab by Magomed counted as another Medium at 1st round, although Jan was unbalanced because of his leg kick. 1st round at 3:12mins, counted as another medium, I rewatched it, and that was definitely light. Crazy...... Magomed's push kick counted as Medium, Jan's body kick counted as light. WTF is this? Jan's kicks definitely have more impact, but all counted as light and medium. Big L for Weasle, pretty rare moment.
I think the biggest disgrace is Joe Rogan creating drama and trying to force Jan to admit defeat during the post-fight interviews.
More people need to be talking about this
Well in fact, cannonier vs Strickland was a robbery, right weasle?
Wouldn't say a robbery but Strickland definitely won that fight , Cannonier didn't do a whole lot until the end of the 4th and 5th , while Strickland was more active and landing more volume , pretty dumb that you don't do shit the entire fight but cut open Strickland in the 5th and win on damage đ€Łđ€Ł scoring fights by damage is so stupid and subjective
@@drunkenmmamaster419 Youâre right about that. As the mma guru pointed out the visible damage tune favours black fighters lol
Thanks for this man I thought you forgot about this.
I was in the comments of a CZcams video the other day watching some older fights and came across these two commenters going back and fourth and one said âdude the Weasle did a video on this you Fân idiot go watch it, damage trumps allâ
lol you know youâre doing it right when people are quoting you Weasle! Iâve seen it multiple times haha I love it! Keep it up brutha
You can argue that Jan won rd 1 because if damage trumps ALL, then rd 1 should go to Jan. Magomed's left eye was swelling up as they were getting ready for rd 2. And idk about those teeps being medium. They didnt seem damaging but did push Jan back. I either give rd 1 a draw or to Jan
Yeah the thing is that neither really damaged each other "solely" in the 1st round.
if you think Jan kicks did more damage then its subjective call. based on rules Ankeleiv won round 1. Saying he felt too much pain is subjective its more of wishful thinking than actual game of rules. I will bet on Ankaliev if they fight again but Jan wont take that fight and that alone tells you who really won.
If weasel says ankalaev won, then ankalaev won
Thanks for the content weasel
Not a bad decision to be honest. I had the first 3 rounds for Jan and the last 2 for Ankalaev.
I agreed at the time, and actually thought the 3rd could have been a 10-8 for Jan as it had to be close to being stopped.
The criteria actually make it sound like the 3rd round should be a 10-8 for Jan as well. But I agree with the draw after watching it live. I definitly wouldnt say this was a robbery.
A title fight should never end in a draw. Thats like the superbowl ending in a tie.
Potentially crazy idea here... but why donât they jus simply take more time to decide instead of open scoring and all these other ideas that people are proposing. Fights with a finish have the winner getting their hand raised, fights that go 3 or 5 rounds get announced at the end of the night giving the judges a chance to review the fights in slow motion, rewatch close rounds, etc. The fact that these judges are making decisions immediately after a razor close round like round 1 here is crazy, I really think this could be a good idea, although it would change the overall for,at of the events a bit.
Watching the fight live is all that matters, because the fight is scored LIVE. Jan won 1, 2 and 3, Magomed won 4 and 5, with 5 being a 10-8, so their decision of a Draw was correct, but it should have been a Majority Draw and not a Split Draw.
Although I was rooting for Jan to win, I knew that Magomed should've gotten the win
Hey weasle
Appreciate the video, the scorecard would have been 48-46 not 49-47
I disagree about the damage in first round. Draw is fair decision in my opinion.
Watching it the 1st time the thought ankalaev won. Rewatching and knowing how those leg kicks were going to affect him makes me Realized the kicks had a much bigger impact than I thought. Even the checked kicks. Its like weasel didnt watch the fight at all
Watching live I had no idea who won the 1st. Had Jan 2 and 3. Magomed 4 and 5 with a 10-8. Though I never called it a robbery because of how close the 1st was.
rewatch the 3rd .. and check the stats .. Jan had 10 seconds of glory and thats all people remember
100% agree with you, even with the fight ending as a draw, I don't see that as a robbery at all.
Just for thought,
Onefc scores their fights in itâs entirety instead of round by round basis, using the damage>everything criteria
. I think itâs easier for judges to distinguish who has the momentum when handing out decisions in the end. This judging wouldâve had Ankalaev winning due to that shut out last round regardless of how even they were prior.
This allows fighters to have comebacks from rough starts or being dropped early but gaining a second wind; instead of having their scores locked into rounds
Under what you described as criteria for a 10-8 round caused by damage leaving a noticeable change to a fighter round 3 should be scored 10-8 for Yan due to that calf kick doing altering damage to the opponentâs ability to move.
no just no
I've been waiting for this break down. I feel the fighters reactions after the fight had a big impact on how it was viewed, when in reality it was a closer fight than people expected
Can you do a who won for Canninier vs Strickland. A lot of people think Sean shouldâve wonâŠ
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Ankalaev oustruck Jan in round 1, close but it was apparent. Then Ankalaev won round 4 and 5th. 5th being a 10-8. Ankalaev won
Exactly the way I scored it.
I scored it a draw giving jan 1,2,3 with 5 being a 10-8 jan really beat up his legs before round 4.
I dont get it how people give jan rd 3..Except for the 2 good leg kicks and a few light leg kicks jan did nothing
Round 5 is not a 10-8
Jan leg kicks are deadly all should count as heavy even when checked.
I thought a draw was fair. I had Jan winning 1, 2 and 3 based on damage. Ankalaev won 4 & 5, and 5 even though Ankalaev didn't deal any damage, Jan didn't do a damn thing so a 10-8 is reasonable. 47-47. Edit: So after having watched, I'm starting to question how much you've done something like kickboxing yourself valuing pushkicks as much as leg kicks based on their impact. This is ridiculous. What do you think pushkicks are for? To create distance. The fact that Jan caused similar impact from a kick that is meant to damage and incapacitate like a calf kick means they dealt WAY more damage. Jan 100% caused more damage in that first round. Just look at Ankalaev's cheekbones from those ''grazing'' shots after the first round.
Damage isnt everything the sign strikes were on Ankalaev 1st round and 3rd with a takedown in the 3rd which is also scored equally based on that Magomed won 1st and 3rd.
I agree with you. Weasle has a Dagestani bias.
@@igorivanov2498 no you have a Dagestani bias a hate bias.
@@curtharakaly4620 No a takedown is scored regardless of whether you do something with it or not, neither did Jan get up.
And damage doesnt trump all.
@@tarci2994 One of my favorite fighters is Dagestani. I have Dagestani friends in real life. When do you stop making up lies? Itâs people like you that makes people have a bias against Dagestan.
On fights this controversial, they should have weasel do a breakdown afterwards đ
I wish each judge had to do video like this explaining their score when their are questionable scores in fights.
Interesting breakdown. Not sure if I fully agree, I honestly think the true outcome of this fight was a draw. But that aside, I always appreciate these breakdowns brotha. Keep doing ya thing âđż
Yeah it was close, could've been scored either way tbh
@@TheWeasleMMA right ? I thought it was pretty crazy that people were so up in arms about this decision. It was a solid fight. Def would like to see how it would go if they run it back.
If they do, you rolling with magomed? Or you think Jan will capitalize on those leg kicks more?
I couldn't believe it. Even on MMA Decisions, most of the media, 23 of 25 gave it to Ankalaev, this was a clear win for him. Uncrowned champ I guess perfectly suitable here. I also think "robbery" is overused, esp that it was a close fight. Yet, the repercussions of this decision were way bigger, coz one guy didn't receive his rightfully deserved belt. He won't get any ppvs, contracts, etc, they didn't even do him any good, not even placing him against Glover next for the belt. Totally dismissed. I feel bad for Ankalaev, esp that he had the longest win streak in the division after JJ, and that in the fight he showed championship mind, changed the game plan once compromised. Just awful... And this was right after the Paddy fight. I strongly believe there are not coincidence.
It was anything but a "clear" win. Even this video proves it. The question is, how did 23 out of 25 of those people all score it for ankalaev unless a bias was involved or if they didn't score it round by round and looked at the end of the fight
If damage is the most important factor in a decision, Jan won by far.
@@SSFYHHH You don't even realize you biased lol, it's your problem, those 23 outta 25 prolly scored the same way weasle scored it, and most people, including mma fighters. Anyone with reason and eyes score this way. But if your emotions (fanboying, hating etc) tell you otherwise, again, your problem
@@elyt777 a tie is fair enough. You're making big assumptions
We should just pause the fight after every strike lands so we can ask the fighter how much each strike hurt. Damage is subjective. Thank you Grand Master.
I think these analyses videos would be a lot better if each strike you point out is visible with a animation like a little fire or something over the number so you can more easily see it change
Jan won rounds 1-2-3. The leg kicks from Jan were easily the most damaging strikes thrown, and he was getting the better of Magomed on the feet, hence why Ankalaev had to resort to the wrestling mid fight. A brilliant mid fight adjustment by Ank, but just too little too late. 47-47 draw is correct
How was Magomed able to footwork with damaged legs???
@@frozenelsa11 He wasn't, that's why he took Jan to the ground 4th and 5th.
To be fair to Jan, he was gassed by round 4 which is why Magomed could wrestle, all takedowns in earlier rounds were snuffed so he kinda couldn't switch up earlier
@@popeyepanda6561 agreed. Another overlooked aspect of this fight. People say Ank shouldâve grappled earlier. Well he tried! He just didnât have success. But on top of the wrestling he also made a conscious effort to push forward and get Jan on the backfoot in rounds 4-5. You canât throw kicks when youâre being forced to move backwards. Ank also used the clinch to avoid leg kicks too. It was a great adjustment
He didnt win the first
Wait a minute. Isn't this the round where Yan damaged the side of his face?! You count a half extended push kick as a medium? Hmmm. Went back and rewatch the first round. 2m 5sec Yan catches him with a left hook, swells his eye. Yan had the big damage in this round. Hate to say it but the MMA guru was right đ€ŠđŸââïžđ€Ł
Should have been co-champions and future challenger's should fight both in a handicap match đ
If the round is that even, doesn't the visible damage rule mean Jan just wins the round cause he swelled up Ankalaev's eye in round 1? According to the unified rules that should be "assessed with great value", making this video pointless. And now you see why I hate the visible damage rule with a passion...
At first, I gave the fight to Ankalaev slightly because of the 1st round. But I rewatched the first round, it was so close that I couldn't help but give it a draw. But overall, if we take round 5 as a 10-8 round, Ankalaev still wins it closely. Maybe by 48-46 (don't remember how a draw round is scored)
The fight would be a draw *only* if round 5 is 10-8 for Ankalaev. Jan won 1, 2 and 3 and Ankalaev won 4 and 5. If round 5 is not a 10-8 then Jan should've won. And there's an argument that round 3 was 10-8 for Jan since Ankalaev's legs were demolished and he was limping all over.
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 This was just my opinion. Round 1 to me felt very close that I gave it a draw. You can score whatever you want and I don't necessarily have to agree with thatđ
Immediately after the fight finished, I had rounds 1,4 and 5 for Magomed and rounds 2 and 3 for Jan. Tough fight to call, but Ankalaev should be the champ of LH rn. And the fact he isn't immediately fighting for the belt again is insane!
yep same i also had it the same way
Agreed, round 1 was close but Ankalaev was the clear winner in my opinion
Give him time to heal his legs, lol.đ€Ł
I went to bed to sleep after this fight. I almost fell asleep during those final two rounds.
I think there should be more draw rounds. That was to close to score it like a normal 10-9
thats how is saw it in the first too, damage was literally even, only way to score was to see who was the aggressor. It was in that way easiest and simplest round to score. The official score was all over the place, would have loved to see a breakdown of the third round as well but based on damage i think jan got that. No way he won that fight after that fifth round tho.
For those arguing that most of Jan's kicks in round 1 shouldn't be scored as "light" because of how they affected Ankalaev in round 2: They should know that each round is scored separate, and Anakalev showed no big reaction to the leg kicks until round 2. You don't score round 1 based on what happens later in round 2.
Itâs still damage though. Damage is cumulative. He was severely compromised and due to that Jan was closest to finishing the fight. Too close.
@@Jamesfrancosdog So again.. You're basically saying that the referees should score round 1 based on what happened in the future and not that specific round? Nonsense đđ
@@truthseeker96 He just explained it, because damage trumps all. It's not that hard to understand.
@DearthĂĄir agus mairtĂreach His eye didn't get swelled from Jan's kicks, right? Maybe we should score all gsp fights against him if that was the case
@@thekasradamma9854 It's illogical because his premise is based on cumulative damage and not round by round as the rules say. If that was the case there should be no rounds and fighters should continue until one of them gives up, and judging by Jan's condition at the end this fight was definitely not going to continue on Jan's favor
Wait, why did we wait so long for this video lol?
weasel has become so trash recently dagestani bias is crazy
Joe Rogans interview of this fight was absolutely disgusting and shouldn't have happened. He needs to step down honestly. At this point, he's pure entertainment and no analysis
So the fight was originally 3 rounds and jan won the first 3 is kinda wild and no one talks bout it.
facts lol
Hey weasel, what do you think about revamping the scoring system, where later rounds are given more weight than earlier rounds?
lets say
30% x 10pts for 1st round
30% x 10pts for 2nd
40% x 10pts ?
Or some other weights, basically the idea is surviving or dominating later rounds should weigh more than earlier rounds since, each fighter has dished out and taken all that the other fighter has given, so advantage at later rounds should he more telling..
Weasle: âif we give leniency and strikes are equal, then we have to go to aggressivenessâ
Also weasle: âthat was 100% ankalaev who was effectively throwing more strikesâ
nice job weasle đ€Ą
So if 1 guy throws 100 strikes and only lands 20 of them and the other guy only throws 20 strikes and lands all of them, the guy who missed 80 times should win the round?????
He worships Dagestanis. Kinda surprised he didn't put kebob on the thumbnail đ€Ł
We need to see this rematch. Jan can sharpen up his leg kicks and take down defense, and become champ again.
Iâd rather see Rakic vs Magomed and Jan vs Smith (terrible matchup for smith tho)
@@DADRB0B55 I think we'll see Ankalaev be the first defense of the winner of Hill Vs Texeira since Ankalaev moved up the rankings and is now ahead of Blachowic.
Hey weasel you should judge fights using your criteria as well as the UFCâs.
Here. We. Go!
Thank you weasel
on the first round, Ankalaev had a hematoma on his right eye, but that was counted as a light attack? what?
No way those leg kicks can be considered "light"...My only issue with your opinion. Looking at "damage" isn't a good Way to judge a fight anyway but there is nothing we can do about that...
The video Iâve been waiting for
When I saw the fight live I gave the first round to Jan, it seemed like he had damaged Ankalaev more, I even counted that big leg kick as a heavy attack, but I can also see it getting scored this way
I wouldn't consider any push kick a medium blow, they make you lose your balance but they don't hurt much