Marcus Aurelius' Meditations: Bibliotheca Webinar
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Your original lecture on Marcus Aurelius triggered my interest in philosophy and sparked a real chapter of personal growth for me. Really happy for this upload. Thank you, Professor Sugrue. Your work is greatly appreciated.
That is a superb lecture.
Same! I watched that and was instantly interested in learning more.
I had the same epiphany. It started with a random joe Rohan podcast with a young historian who loved meditations and I stumbled onto dr sugrue’s lecture and It’s become my go to media to consume when I am reflecting. His lectures seem to awaken something in a thinking person that I’ve never really felt. It’s a very positive influence.
Forreals, the way he delivered though,” all mendie but not all men dye wining” beautiful.
Exactly the same here!! But i started to watch the original videos only 8 months ago. But such great lectures!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
Professor Sugrue, your original lectures brought tears to my eyes. You brought so much meaning to many many lives-to those whom you do not know. RIP.
Wait is this the actual Dr.Sugrue???? Wtf?
The long awaited sequel is FINALLY here!
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The NSF will be delighted to watch this
Based af sugrue enjoyer:
Hope you’re doing good Professor Surgrue. I just wanted to express my appreciation of your lectures, especially your original lecture of Marcus Aurelius. I heard your lecture about 4 years ago. I was going through some really tough times, especially with addiction. Your lecture turned a switch on and from there on I started to process everything with the principals of 16:05 . Since then my life has done a 180 degree turn for the better. I was able to see everything with a different perspective. I’m no longer dealing with addiction and helped me even when my mother passed. I just wanted to thank you and the Lord above for discovering your lecture. I still follow and practice Stoicism and it has made me a better son, father, and a man. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Professor. Thank you, and God bless….
Rest in peace, Professor. Your work will never be forgotten.
His first lecture was incredible, I'd argue one of the best lectures on Aurelius. Love the follow up.
Wow, this was the first lecture I listend to several years ago when first discovering Dr. Sugrue (best lecture ever). Can't wait to hear this!
Me too. Then the one on Nietzsche and Christianity. Fantastic.
i listen to it about once a week, to try and keep myself in check
You helped me get my life on track sir. I appreciate you. Thankyou
How did he helped.
@@cinnamon4605 Probably the philosophy of playing the role you're assigned with pride rather than whining about it. That'll snap you out of a victim mentality real quick.
@@GabrielDoesTypology Agreed.
A round of applause for Michael Sugrue. His compendious presentation of M Aurelius could not have been more lucid and comprehensive. His flair for striking turns of phrase adds a delectable piquancy to his style. No, his brain is not like a colander. It is a large cask in which double-distilled supernaculum has been aging for years. This draught of vintage is meant for slow listening---sip by sip to appreciate its divine flavour.
I love this expression: "He's a friend of mine". Dr. Sugrue is a true inspiration.
give this man a better mic! we have 2022, we need his voice in best quality:)
I hope Dr. Sugrue knew how much his lecture on Emperor Marcus Aurelius impacted so many to do good.
what a golden voice! We need an audiobook from you Sir!
Rest in peace sir, 67 is too early for someone who could impart so much knowledge
I appreciate his unbiased opinions of the negative and positive downsides to stoicism. Very astute and genuine.
So good to hear your voice. Extraordinarily comforting and edifying as always. Stay well Professor.
What a great man you are Dr Sugrue! I am sure Marcus Aurelius would be proud of you!
Thank you for enriching my life with your knowledge!
We desperately needed an update on your brilliant lecture. Ive listened to it many times over the years. I would finish your sentences. Now I have another amazing lecture to return to. Many thanks !
So great to hear the actual mediations. These lectures are so important (and amazingly helpful). I only wonder that philosophy wasn’t seriously taught in some form in schools.
It used to come almost subliminally through religion to theasses. Now it comes almost subliminally through post-modernist liberalism via Twitter etc. Almost don't know what's worse.
Well... philosophy can get kinda wild depending on who's teaching it.... those crazy cults had a teacher too
Greatly appreciate the work that goes into this channel. Keep it up
Where’s my sandwich?
He’s such a legend ⚡️
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A legend.
What a treat! This book changed my life!
“He’s a friend of mine.” Well even though I’ve never met you, you’re a friend of mine.
9:15 "dissipating" is my new favorite euphemism. Your mind inspires yet, sir.
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“Honest virtue makes it’s own friends.” Wow, I really needed to hear that gem. Thank you. 🙏🏾
This will definitely get a few views alright. I think it's the reason 99% of us are here. A great introduction to rest of your offerings Dr Sugrue.
So glad you took the time to make this video Michael.
You are a legend.
Completely made my day. Can't wait to dive right into this.
Can't wait for more videos. Really appreciate all these videos.
You had me at hi everyone.
Thanks Dr. Sugrue ! The best.
@michael sugrue, thank you for sharing your life's passion with us is only the beginning. I wish you continued health.
Grateful for these lectures and the insight.
Thank you for your work professor.
I just purchased this book a couple weeks ago, thanks for this podcast!
Last ten minutes are priceless.
Thank you Sir. You're the man.
Thank you for sharing! Keep them coming :)
Brilliant Lecture and thoroughly reflective
I saw your lecture from a few years ago about Marcus and it has inspired to get myself into stoicism more. Thank you !
I have viewed this an obscene amount of times since yesterday.
Sorry to hear about your cancer. Great talk. Thanks.
14:00 One of the most brilliant ideas I've ever heard aloud. Uttered far too quickly given the poignancy of its fact.
Again, sir; thank you!
The greatest philosopher of them all--bar none. He made daily attempts to walk the talk. Moral but realistic at the same time. Philosophy for THIS world, not some fantasy afterlife.
Almost 2000 years on and we have not forgotten Marcus Aurelius. Thank you for shedding light on stoicism prof. I wish you well.
Thank you so much.
You are truly brilliant
Great introduction and nice voice
5:40 Life ends
I control I
Self-Control is possible
No Excuses
7:17 Marcus Aurelias wrote the book to himself; a collection of scrap thoughts 💭 💭💭💭💭💭
8:30 Sober ruler of Rome
10:22 Power did not corrupt Aurelias
The Golden Marcus
+ Works diligently
+ committed to doing right
Morally serious self-introspection
13:38
Teach or Put Up
Raise or Accept
14:24 You forget Life, Life forgets you
16:46 People trend toward foolishness viciousness and dishonesty
17:36 Icon of Righteousness
19:50 [Chemotherapy, whenever you get nervous]
Consciously Self-Examining
No Excuses Made
Protecting People
25:42 Noble but could lead to Hubris
*Question and Answer*
27:42 Sit Read Think
28:51 Contemporary Sources
How lucky am I to have seen his first lecture and be able to watch the follow up that took decades immediately. His voice changed. He talks slower and more careful which is saying a lot.
This man is just awesome
I'm gonna be the first to say Dr. Sugrue's voice has become Optimus Prime.
That 57:00 advice is top notch, and very hard to practice on the social networks that tend to go in opposite direction.
SUGRUE = GENIUS
appreciate your effort, keep it up man !!!!
I recently found a copy of Alvin Gouldner’s “The Future of Intellectuals and the Rise of the New Class” I would love to hear Prof. Sugrue lecture on this text.
Thank you.
Riley Brannan from Southern Illinois. Micheal Sugrue is one of my favorite lecturers.
I wish you guys made Playlist on this page. I can't find some of the videos. Professor Michael Surgue is one of the best I've ever listen to.
He went to meet his friend. May God rest him in peace!
Excellent
hi I'm Sima from Iran
I've noticed a lot of younger guys lately attaching to this Stoic idea... I'm not sure they've completely grasped the entire concept. That is not to say their goals and methods are unsound, but it's like building a life philosophy on quotes from motivational posters. Thank you Dr.
It appears to me that there are a lot of young men who are doing poorly. Latching onto Marcus Aurelius is better than most of the things they might come upon. They don't know who they are, nor who they could be nor who they should be. Our current crop of alienated, angry, aimless young men too often were raised without a father who could impose a wholesome restraint and later without the civilizing effects of women and family in their lives. By civilizing effect of women on men I'm not talking about living in your mother's basement, being a gamer and Onlyfans regular, I'm talking about the best reason not to waste an irreplaceable portion of a young man's life, by choosing to create direction and growing up. Have you ever seen a civilized frat house? These young men know only too well that they would be better if they had girlfriends, but neither they nor any other men are not entitled to jack from the women of the world. No, it is necessary, if they want to live up to their potential and avoid a lifetime of justified self contempt, young men must decide to get their zhit together. Get a haircut, get a job, get a life. Then you might be able to bring a woman in your life who doesn't require your credit card number first. Aurelius could teach every one of these lost young men, who expect direction in life to come find them rather than them imposing direction on it themselves, how to be stand up guys.
@@dr.michaelsugrue That is a very good point... whether they fully understand the totality of Stoicism or Aurelius' thought or motivations, something is better than nothing. Even if it's a sort of "cafeteria Marcusism", if you get my drift. 😉 In my mind, the extremely widespread and facile availability of a global, multimedia communications network that humanity has devised (known colloquially as "the Internet") has hastened the kind of thing you're talking about. Families are breaking up, the "old ways" are deemed corny and outmoded... males used to need to improve themselves and be conscientious and studious to have access to "women." Now they can dance naked for them on screen, at the click of a button.
I'm worried about the breakdown of traditional societal values... traditional gender roles... traditional local communities, in favor of a zeitgeist dominated by people of disparate cultures and interests, all demanding to have influence over one another, loudly and all at once. If Aurelius' thoughts can come to minimize some of that harm, that is good. I only meant to point out that I see a lot of guys sort of... what's the word... fetishising particular angles of the worldview in almost a trite way. I see this with Christianity too... as a Christian, I see this happen a lot as well (on both the fundamental/conservative and liberal sides.) I guess I'm expecting too much of humanity. 😂 From a utilitarian point of view, whether the philosophy or ideology is fully appreciated or not, it can do good... and is better than nothing.
Hope you are still doing well, Robert.
Rest in peace professor
I’m so surprised this is the same guy in the old videos
Rip and thanks
Respect to this professor, he got whole lot bigger thoug
Thank you doctors. Would you be able to do one on Dostoevsky?
Okay. Thanks Dr. I want to make Marcus my friend too. now. You have become my friend too. Thank you. Thank God.
Be careful what you ask for. I feel like such a worm in the presence of Aurelius and so will you.
The Emperor would graciously accept your offer of friendship, provided that you had a demonstrated ability to be your own friend first. As your new friend, he would suggest that he could not in good conscience deplete the tragically limited spiritual resources of anyone who treated themselves poorly, enslaved themselves to their libido and had cultivated chaotic souls. He would remind you that it is proper to hold the intention to treat others well, but until you organize your feelings and have that change manifest itself in strictly just conduct toward all you still have work to do. Your perfectly sincere, direct new friend would tell you that is the friendliest advice he can offer you in response to your proffered friendship is to tell you to be your own friend. Fix your life first and stop dodging the obligation of stepping up on behalf of the man you could become. This IS his good side.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I can't believe this reply was waiting there for me for 4 days. I didn't expect a reply, let alone such a valuable synthesis, a blueprint into understanding Aurelius's core underlying guideline. Thank you. I get an inkling of what you are providing me. Taming my ego has been a personal bumper sticker for some time, but, it seems that Aurelius provides a self analyzing standard, by which any religion, can hold up as the ultimate model. I am starting to get it: How I treat others, and even the attitude I sincerely hold while "treating" others seems to be a litmus test as to whether I have tamed my ego. I think people see through to the sincerity of it all anyway. Maybe the only way to effect change is by wearing the aura of that hard fought change. I hope you continue your public work. Your perspective is a priceless jewel mined from extraordinary sacrifice. God made you into true "lover of reading" I appreciate that. While wearing headphones listening to youtube, I work construction with my hands, so these conversations you have provided open a door into a world that I have cheated myself of. With more life behind me than in front of me, yours and others distillation of the great thoughts of history is priceless to me, and I thank God for that. But you must know, not everyone can do it with as much character, style, grace and depth of perspective as you offer. It seems I am a fan. Peace.
RIP Dr. Sugrue
Can someone please tell me what is the book that Dr. Sugrue is recommending at 50:55
How do you attend the webinars?
Holy shit the commentary on minimalism being cynicism was awesome ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Dr. Sugrue, regarding the rationale or natural historical reason or function of religion that you explain around 50 min. mark w/in this video, would you include Christianity in that assessment that Christianity’s function is Justice in terms of trying to humble the arrogant leader in order for society to prosper? If so, what do you make of the element of forgiveness which is so paramount in Christianity and which isn’t something that can be reduced solely to justice? What function or benefit would it serve, for example, to love your enemy and to pray for or to pardon those who persecute you? Or to buy into the belief that even the most unworthy person, that you may well despise and for very good reason, still has a chance to be redeemed in the hereafter? Furthermore do you personally think there is something more to Christianity in the suprarational sense rather than the rational functional sense? By the way, I love your lectures and analyses on the topics you cover.
He stores the knowledge in his belly.
Im 47 and when i think about how he lived i feel likeci was weak to wimen drink and true to myself i will do my best from here on in to live this way i beat the alcohol i have 5 daughters my mum died when i was 17 and my father committed suicide when i was 39, a part of me knew the way i lived and coped was not the way i wanted to live i train everyday i work and im trying to figure out how to do something i love that helps People.
Should I read Ethics before Meditations?
He voice now booms with a baritone of a fatherly man like the philosophers he has studied...
If you watch his younger lecture videos you will see the truth of this
I also have a question about Marcus’ views on Stoic philosophy. One of his main points seems to be to like you said teach people or put up with them. He also said in “Meditations” (I paraphrase) that if a man detaches himself from some one it is like a branch detaching itself from it’s connected branch which is connected to the stump and therefore the rest of the tree. For us it is like we are disconnecting from the whole network of people. But he does iterate that it is possible to start again and reconnect in a different part of the network. So my question is: Is it authentically stoic to drop certain people from your life if you feel like they are not helping you or are healthy for you? After all Stoicism is more about a life obligated to others like you said but what is your opinion on this?
Would you say Seneca walked the walk as well? Do you agree with Voltaire or Oscar Wilde’s take on Marcus Aurelius as being the perfect man or the greatest person to have ever lived? Last question: is there an actual Marcus Aurelius historian out there; are you one?
I dont know how can any person like an emperor who has everything ; who's any wish can be fulfilled.
live life of discipline self control and doing whats right inspite of pain and suffering
How can anyone do that i get succumbed to tiny pleasures easily like sir mentioned in the video
Great talk. One question I had after the plague and earthquake comment and how Marcus has to protect people who are scared: Could the world actually function if everyone was stoic?
wait that man with the beard is Michael Sugrue?
Honest virtue makes its own friends? 17:33... was that a direct quote or is that a Dr. Sugrue original?
Honestly, if you compile all of his originals together, it kind of makes its own philosophy. I don’t know if he does that on purpose or if it just happens. Pretty unique we get to witness how it evolves in real time.
What a beautiful man. Gotta get into the gym so we can keep your soul and mind for another 40 years !! 💕
Dad laughed because he has cancer - he said he's lucky to be out of the hospital, much less in a gym.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I heard him say that in the lecture and that fucking sucks.
But my point still stands, more walking, more water. Life is trying to kill us all but your pops is a great man, we need him.
Is Marcus Aurelius the father we all wish we had had?
Did you miss the part of him being a bad father?
If he was you’d turn out a rotten apple 😂
It’s only in wanting what you didn’t have can you climb
Is this Dr. Sugrue?
God I wish this was 7 hours
I wonder if Marcus Aurelius actually truly believed that anyone can do anything another can do, like there aren't any real inherent differences between people, or if he just thought it would be a benign manipulation or lie, that would positively influence the reader or the receiver of such ideas.
The Bull translation? I think the professor is mistaken. I've never seen a Bull translation.
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Skip to 3:25
The following dialogue was created by an AI bot. I asked it to create a discussion between Marcus and Plato.
Marcus Aurelius: Greetings, Plato. It is an honor to engage in dialogue with such a renowned philosopher as yourself.
Plato: The honor is mine, Marcus Aurelius. Your writings on Stoicism have greatly influenced my own thinking.
Marcus Aurelius: Thank you. It is my belief that we must strive to live a virtuous life and cultivate inner peace, regardless of the circumstances that befall us.
Plato: I could not agree more. The pursuit of virtue is at the heart of my philosophy as well. But how do we define virtue, and how do we cultivate it?
Marcus Aurelius: Virtue, to me, is living in accordance with reason and living in harmony with the natural order of things. It is the practice of living a good and just life, in accordance with the principles of wisdom and integrity.
Plato: Yes, I believe virtue is also about living in harmony with the eternal forms, or ideals, that exist beyond the material world. It is about striving towards perfection and excellence in all aspects of life.
Marcus Aurelius: I see your point. But it is my belief that we must also be practical in our pursuit of virtue. We must focus on what is within our control and let go of what is not.
Plato: I agree that we must be practical, but we must also strive for excellence in all things. Only by constantly improving ourselves and striving towards the eternal forms can we hope to achieve true virtue.
Marcus Aurelius: I see your point. But it is also important to remember that we are human and that we will inevitably make mistakes. It is through the process of learning from these mistakes and striving to do better that we can truly grow and improve.
Plato: Absolutely. The pursuit of virtue is a lifelong journey, and it is through constant self-improvement and the cultivation of wisdom that we can hope to achieve it.
Haha yeah I tried doing this with a lot of people. Tupac and Machiavelli namely lmao.
It’s pretty corny rn, but in just a couple years, especially with giving Chat GBT a unique thesis, some cool at dialogues can def be spit out
Who is that supposed to be?
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Is Dr. Sugrue still a professor?
He is a retired professor
26:35 lmaoooooooooo her “that’s greeeeeat” ruined the whole vibe so bad omfg 💀💀💀
Thanks!
I was moved by the your first lecture on Marcus Aurelius. I appreciate you professor - I do believe some people have a talent of teaching and telling certain things. This was also a really nice upload. I know there is a map picture above your head - but when the video is made smaller throughout the second half of the video - it looks like saggy avatar boobs and was a bit hard to focus. Other than that, I truly appreciate this.
Despite haters who may dismiss stoic wisdom as the 'dude-bro' bookshelf, the open-minded can generally find resilience here. However, readers may not realize from reading Marcus Aurelius that his sense of duty allegedly led him to order the persecution of Christians, and if this were proven true, then his self-admonishments to live better would start to ring hollow. Others will be alienated by his apparent death-obsession. [Edit: Reading further, it seems disputed whether or not Marcus really persecuted Christians; Tertullian called him a "protector" of Christians, and the source of the charge may have been a "pious fraud" (ex: Eusebius).
Joe “the Catholic Church sucks but man, Marcus Aurelius talked about forgiveness” Rogan.