Great Minds - Part 1 - Plato's Republic I: Justice, Power, and Knowledge
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Thank you im a uneducated construction worker but love history. Started with american than learned about the enlightenment. In europe and know greek and Roman. Listened go the republic a couple times this really helped me break it down. And the same problems plagued politics for thousands of years simply amazing. But i feel like our politicans in alot of ways were better educated decades ago.
i'm a law professor. I wish half my students had your curiousity. Keep it up!
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blaze 2019 - You are certainly NOT “uneducated” (MBAs who have no interest in learning anything beyond what will benefit their corporate careers are uneducated) - and I agree with Damian Biondo: I, too, wish half my students had your intellectual curiosity and sense of wonder; I have to brush up on Kardashians trivia just to get them to take their doctoral comprehensive exams...
I'm in construction as well! Ditch-Digger Laborer!
Travis Cooper - Me, too! Archaeologist, excavator.
Rest in Peace, Dr. Sugrue. You sparked my interest in Plato and made the experience much more enjoyable.
“The good man has no enemies, the good man is devoted to the idea if improving all human beings” wow, this hit deep
Nonsense; I would not trust a person if he did not have enemies. Having enemies indicates that you have a strong position on moral or political matters.
I thought it was interesting because it seemed to imply that your “enemy” is defined by yourself. The person may not have your best interests in mind, or may be actively working against you, but you have the ability to contextualize their actions in relation to yourself, and it doesn’t have to be adversarial.
Easier said than done, though.
@@michaellangan4450 this is a real philosophy moment here
Back in high school I remember a saying if u have haters your doing something right
that is why i hate ultranacionalistic racist and comunes, bro we are human beings, all of us, even the dumbest of the dumb are highly evolved biological machines, we are in this together all of us.
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Professor speaks so eloquently , he truly is the Plato of Story telling. Such rythm such harmony between words. Listening to this I could truly imagine myself there with Socrates.
Two minutes in and I had the same thought. Like I'm sitting on some marble stairs.
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Socrates speech at his trial for impiety and corruption, is in Greek but that’s how he’d sound.
He talks way too fast. He doesn't give the listener a moment to process.
the amount of data in this mans mind and the way he transfers it into the minds of his listeners is next level
Yup. Why do you have Buddha as your DP ? Wouldn't it be better to have Socrates ?
@@DipayanPyne94 why not have Buddha and Socrates at the same time? DP in his ass. You did mean Double Penetration, right???
@@common_sense2022 Jesus. The f is wrong with you 🤦🏽♂️
@@DipayanPyne94 No, the Buddha is far better
@@madallas_mons Good joke. I used to believe that too. Then, I read Plato and he changed my life. He SAVED me.
RIP doctor sugrue
Thank you for uploading this... People pay top dollar for this kind of lecture
I think you’d like Pierre grimes’s lectures on Plato. Type his name then type “Parmenides” right after. He has dozens if not hundreds of lectures here.
What’s the difference? Pierre is a mystic and thinks Plato was on to something. So, he makes the best argument he can for him. Whereas, as good as he is, sugrue is an academic. I don’t know that he actually bought in to the transcendence of the GOOD-ONE. but I’m just guessing. Regardless, Pierre Grimes is pretty good.
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If my professors were like this in college, I'd forever be a college student.
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Once, philosophy, is in you heart, you don't need lecture notes. As eloquently demonstrated by this professor. If only all ' professors', were equally inclined.
Your usage of punctuation gave me cancer.
Rideshare and delivery driver here, grew up poor, but always been intellectually voracious. First of all I want to say that the people in this comment section ARE AMAZING🤩🤓. Secondly I want to say that these lectures are invigorating and helpful in grappling with the current social and political status quo. Just downloaded “The Republic” on my Kindle and cannot wait to dig into these dialogues. Thanks for this wonderful introduction/guide to its major concepts and to interpreting the text. I believe this will actually help me be better at spotting themes and values in literary and philosophical texts in the future. Thank you prof. Sugrue!!!😇
Here's the thing. Philosophy and other social sciences can be percieved by a beginner. For some bizarre reason it's considered like "high class", like something you need a lot of degrees to understand. Natural science ok, a beginner will only be able to get a "popular science lecture for non scientists". But social science? You can walk into a pholosophy course in an Ivy League university and be as good as the other students. You'll have a problem in a low grade level college if you try to understand what Calculus II is about of course. But philosophy? History? It can be done. If you have the time (and money?) try to get into a university for such a degree. I assure you, you'll be among the best of the class.
Breeze into a class on Wittgenstein's Tractatus at any of the Ivies with which you are so well acquainted and let me know how close to the top you breeze out.
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Rest well good doctor. You’ll be sorely missed.
He was one of my teachers at Columbia in the Fall of 1985.
Dad said, the days pass slowly but the years are gone all too soon.
Rest in piece micheal sugrue
This video taught me a principle of philosophy that i can apply very often
The macro-micro connection
Thanks to this video i found clues to creating a method of artistic viewpoint that would be more efficient for me to study philosophy and more or less everything
I am very grateful for the presence of this video
That at the time i thought would be complicated and excruciatingly difficult to incorporate academic philosophy
But i was wrong and to this day i still use the micro-macro connection
Rest in peace dr sugrue
You'll helped countless people
And believe me your legacy will go on even posthumously
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Never went to college but I bet this guy was the highlight of everyone's semester. And here I am.
Rip professor, one of the most valuable educators that philosophy has ever had the honor of having at its service.
I am a freelance translator and editor. Everytime I am working I listen to one of Professor Sugrue's lectures. These lectures are pure gold. I am truly grateful.
We really live in an amazing time where anyone can access this kind of lecture. I finished book 1 and came here for a summary to make sure it sunk in. In the first 5 minutes I couldn't believe how much I missed. Thank you for this.
We're living in wonderful time aren't we?
@@alonsofrancescutti4956 1. He said that already. 2. In some ways, yes; in some ways, no.
"the republic to a great extent is about the organization and direction of human desire" - found that to be quite profound
People need more Plato in their lives.
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He talks way too fast. He doesn't give the listener a moment to process.
You killed this bro. Damn. If any of my lecturers possessed a fraction of your teaching ability (knowledge, charisma, performance, oration...), I would have become a career student.
This shit rocks. I’m a woodworker in a furniture woodshop and all I do at work is listen your lectures. Thank you for sharing this information and complete quality lecturing to the unwashed masses like myself.
Mate, what do you mean by unwashed ?
Rest in peace Mr Sugrue, I am grateful i caught your last few live streams.
I have listened to many philosophical talks over many years already but have never listened to a lecture like this ever before in my life. I am ever so grateful to Dr Michael Sugrue. Listening to your speech, I guess, would be more interesting and making sense than, of course, listening to Socrates himself alive. In this lecture, you gave the cream of Socrates' knowledge to listeners like 'the swan that separates milk from water'. I can listen to lectures like this all day long without feeling bored. Thank you, Sir.
Thanks! When I’m not broke I’ll donate more. Loved it!
Professor Sugrue is awesome -- I have listened to him for years.
"Socrates' conception of benefit is tied up with his conception of virtue. Since virtue is knowledge for Socrates, the benefit that you owe to those who like you and to those who don't like you... the benefit you owe to all men.... Is education. So the point of Socratic interaction, of Socratic dialogue is the improvement of the people he is speaking to..."
Professor Sugrue, thank you for literally practicing what you preach. It is not lost on me that you are being Socratic by posting your lectures so that we can all learn to be better thinkers and better people. Much respect. 🙏
13:28 I literally was pondering over this for a few days and I am so much happier now that i have made space for thoughts other than those of women. I can actually study now ,talk to people and take care of my future!
The Mister Rogers of college professors. Warm, intelligent and engaging. I feel a strange sense of belonging when listening to your lectures. Thank you.
Love listening to your lectures on my walks. Thank you for making them available here 🙏🏽
We are two.
@@blairhakamies4132 we are three
We are four
His bit on language being a social enterprise and the way to deal with sophist/nihilists is to silence them, really resonated with me.
I think it is FANTASTIC that there are so many people like me that want to keep learning. There is hope! Let's start a revolution 😊
Wow. I’ve read the republic twice and studied it in higher education and just seven minutes in, you’ve hit me with something I’ve never heard before. Excellent.
Dr. Micheal, we are truly blessed to have such a man of integrity, and genius to learn from. From the depths of my soul; thank you! And i wish you well!
I can not believe how much I missed in the first page. Completely eye opening.
When I re-read the republic, and right there in the beginning, it’s there; I realized that what Plato thought to be the ideal city-state, was a simple one, wherein everyone had just enough for their needs. And so worked hard enough and long enough to supply those needs, and no more. Meaning he described the Just city early on.
But this was called a city only good enough for pigs.
The whole bit on the 3 parts of the city, comes when you remove justice from it; to an extent removed. Where lies and force and misinformation are needed to “make it work”.
Make what work? “A luxurious city”
Then I realized that there are a lot of people who give me shit about my liking plato, because Plato does talk about some tyrannical tendencies. But now I see, that’s only “needed”, if I can say it’s needed, when Justice is removed. In other words, when the proper arrangements of the parts, and relations of each to each other are removed, and replaced with relations that are incommensurate and disproportionate or unsuited for the members of the whole.
this dude is a badass. wish I could have studied with him.
At 76, I reread book one for the 4th time last year, wondering how I would perceive it compared to age 20, and twice around age 45. Has anyone else done something similar ?
Dad smiled and said Yes. As you know, it is a blessed experience. For those young people who will listen, help them with your vision.
I’ve done the same with movies. Watching The Graduate in my 20s I identified and completely supported Hoffmann’s young actions, yet as a 50 year old I sympathized with his parents and didn’t idolize him, seeing the many MANY grey areas of all those involved.
@@dr.michaelsugrue In the lectures, is there an audience behind the camera?
@@gloriusbastards I'm pretty sure you can hear people laughing early in this lecture
Yes
Real heroes don't wear capes.
Thank you for educating me.
This guy is absolutely brilliant in presentation and knowledge!!!
Having heard this lecture, I must definitely reread book one. This additional guidance has opened an entirely new perspective on Plato for me.
1. Plato republich... balance knowleage and power
2. Good man who has virtue, have no enemies, no harm
3. Nature of justice, nature of virtue
Grateful ❤
Absolutely spot on so beautifulfully delivered.
From India. ...
I never realised that Socrates was so clever. And such a great football player as well.
there is socrates the philosopher and socrates the footballer 2 different people
His lecture on aurelius was wonderful
I'm so proud of you Michael ❤
Love to listen to your great lectures. Thanks for uploading.
This man is one of the best lecturers I can conceive of. I cannot thank you enough for making this content available and I will be watching every single video you’ve uploaded.
Thank you so much for making these available here on CZcams Professor.
These are a blessing during these times.
Fell asleep listening to this last night. Not because it's boring but because it's so enjoyable to listen to his voice. So I'm watching again now this evening. One of the best lecturers I've ever had the measure of hearing. And I really like the other lecturer he has uploaded. They have kind of the same way of speaking, and I don't know if that intentional somehow, but he's enjoyable to listen to as well.
It's fascinating to me that I've had some of these thoughts or concepts in my mind and sure enough someone thousands of years ago understood what I can never put into words. Thank you for giving what is owed. 👍
One of the best teachers to grace the world!
What a treasure! Thank you so much, sir!
Five minutes in and I'm moved in a similar fashion to when I first read Plato. You grow in knowledge, nay, realize what enlightenment is, every time you fathom it.
This is phenomenal! Thanks a lot for this! Further, if possible, please create a sequential playlist of lectures accordingly; it would be really helpful.
I love this channel, I'm delighted to have stumbled across it.
Like the Republic, these lectures should be heard repeatedly ( and at 0,75x playback speed...). Excellent and inspiring to 'get' things that were formerly opaque. Thank you.
Great tip with the speed.
This is one of the best lectures I have ever seen! Amazing.
So glad I found this channel !
Amazing! One of the best lectures I've ever seen.
Thank you Dr Sugrue. Love yours and Dr Sandel and Dr Harari’s videos. Different but all very interesting.
Bravo, thank you for sharing your wisdom
Michael Sugrue is pure genius. There exists no subject more deep, nor more important than that of Western Culture!
I agree.
The east also has some equally great intellectual minds. Honestly most civilizations have cultivated some sense of philosophy.
Justice is not a construct. It’s a relationship with nature. Heal your relationship with the earth and healthy community will follow.
Dad said this is not even wrong.
Thank you for this, Dr Sugrue. Your work is truly a gift to humanity.
Sublime lectures that are easily digestible. Great introductions to many great thinkers and books before attempting to plunge into them! Thank you!
Changed my life forever!
Thank you for sharing these lectures
Thank you Michael.
Love from Canada
I binge read the Republic and all the Socratic dialogues over Covid and honestly it’s some of the best stuff ever put to paper. I briefly touched upon them in PHL101 25 years ago in college but didn’t pay much attention. Can’t wait to have the chance to read them again and digest them fully!!!
Thank You!
Thank you!
It is a joy to learn from this lecture, thanks for uploading this lecture professor Sugrue. Just began reading Plato and this it has been great help!
Beautifully explained.
Fantastic lecture, thank you so much for the upload.
Another amazing lecture!
Gold!
Good very accessible and direct insights into the meaning and relevance of the Republic. Thanks for posting. I will be adding these for my students.
Talented Camerman! Always keep the professor at the center of the frame. Thanks for uploading great lectures honestly!
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I thoroughly enjoyed the content and delivery of this talk, it smacked of genuine intellectual quality and depth. A real gem.
Goodness, this content is extremelyyyyy enriching, thank you
I just started college and my course is Philosophy and this helped me so much! Thank you!
Thank you Dr. Sugrue, these symposiums are extremely important for me. The gift that you are giving away for free is very generous.
You are so knowledgeable and easy to listen to with the ideas flowing. I wish you were near me at the coffee shop each morning.
Dear Sir,
All thanks to your discourse!
it’s great now my appetite is finally stimulated and truely being satiated.
thank you so much for posting your lectures, Michael, the way you teach has made learning about philosophy a pleasure
We are all so fortunate to live in a time that we can receive this information with the click of a few buttons!!!! Thank you so much for your work Michael.
Your ability to explain these philosophical concepts is unmatched. Lessons that are so important to the modern world. Thank you for your gift.
Please keep posting these lectures. I always wanted to learn practical philosophy. These lectures teach me that.
This amazing information/knowledge. So powerful.
He is captivating. Thank you for uploading this lecture.
Just luv the way u explained it Sir..❤️
Dr. Sugrue is my new philosophy professor!! Grateful for his knowledge sharing.
That was awesome and intelligent speech.
Amazing lecture and extremely articulated and profound explanation. I have watched it three times and moire and never get tired of this lecture and all the other lectures uploaded by professor Surgrue.
I have found that these lectures make excellent building blocks for furthering one’s journey through not the realm of Philosophy and the Social sciences. Thank you for your brilliant lectures professor.
This is great, thank you!
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