Great Minds - Part 1 - Plato's Republic II-V: Soul and City

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  • @Fean9rz
    @Fean9rz Před 2 lety +539

    let's pause one second and appreciate the work of the cameramen trying to follow him back and forth for 40 minutes

    • @TurrisBlancus
      @TurrisBlancus Před 2 lety +8

      LOL

    • @huzaifa2772
      @huzaifa2772 Před 2 lety +43

      What about the Michael surgue who is speaking non stop with passion for 45 mint, that's some thing that's valuable.

    • @trenyasafoadjei
      @trenyasafoadjei Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly what I was thinking. True perseverance 😄

    • @yuckfoutube3
      @yuckfoutube3 Před rokem +26

      @@huzaifa2772 that goes without saying dummy, the cameraperson on the other hand does not.

    • @quantumrobin4627
      @quantumrobin4627 Před rokem +5

      In middle school I had the job of video recording basketball games and the coach wanted as much close up footage as possible, you gotta stay on it🤣

  • @Mshine2
    @Mshine2 Před 3 lety +436

    Dr. Sugrue, uploading your lectures is an invaluable contribution to society. Thank you!

  • @MayahShyqo
    @MayahShyqo Před 3 měsíci +11

    I am Kenyan,a philosophy and psychology student,,,this here is gold.

  • @jasonavant7470
    @jasonavant7470 Před rokem +52

    This is beautiful: "The source of war is luxurious life. Trying to get more than you have a need for, which means extending your borders to satisfy your desires."

  • @chuchura56
    @chuchura56 Před 3 lety +203

    Absolutely brilliant. Tried to read the republic a few times but gave up because never could make head or tail of it. All I needed was a brilliant teacher like you. Thank you, Sir.

    • @andrewryan2814
      @andrewryan2814 Před 2 lety +10

      The audiobook on youtube sounds more like a podcast, given that the entire book is just a dialogue. Much easier to digest, IMO

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    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 2 lety +2

      You have maybe read the old bad translation of it, there has been a lot newer one which is much easier to follow.

  • @ferg
    @ferg Před 5 měsíci +14

    RIP Mr Sugrue your passion and intellect will live through those you have touched ❤

    • @iwanttodie7199
      @iwanttodie7199 Před 4 měsíci

      his death I'm not even kidding has left a hole in my heart, the fact we will never see or hear anyone like him again really makes me sad, there was only one professor Michael sugrue now he is no more.

  • @TraumaGarden
    @TraumaGarden Před 4 lety +163

    I deeply appreciate you uploading these lectures

  • @jaylenwilder6147
    @jaylenwilder6147 Před rokem +37

    I just turned 21 and I have such a burning desire for these deep conversations and revelations. I hope to someday dedicate my life to these questions and my own questions, not for money but for the truth! I started a company and I’m on track to retire early so I can! I’m so so excited and this channel has taken my interest to another level and I greatly appreciate these posts, thank you so much❤️ you’re helping people develop their own path through this crazy life and I so appreciate it

    • @_PanchoVilla
      @_PanchoVilla Před 10 měsíci +3

      I sure do miss being young and naive.

    • @rmwilliamsjr
      @rmwilliamsjr Před 10 měsíci +7

      I am 70 and wish I could have watched these when I was 21.

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@rmwilliamsjr
      I watch all of them. although I don't leave comments many times.
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    • @radekjanuszewski519
      @radekjanuszewski519 Před 3 měsíci

      Follow your desire!

  • @alstewart3540
    @alstewart3540 Před rokem +47

    Hey if this guy is still alive, I want to say thank you for this. It has been really helpful in understanding this book. I read the first book and was unimpressed by socrates arguements, I thought they were flimsy and seemingly overrated. But then I watched this video and you called me out perfectly, saying that it was to invite glaucon and adeimantus to engage. You also said that if you think plato is making a bad agrument, read it again and your probably wrong, which I also really appriciate. I just finished book 5 and I'm looking forward to the rest. Thank you for your work

    • @lesbiansaregoodandch
      @lesbiansaregoodandch Před rokem +9

      He's alive and well. This is his channel.

    • @weiyuan5007
      @weiyuan5007 Před rokem +8

      If you browse the channel, you see his older self giving talks 🎉 long live

    • @rmwilliamsjr
      @rmwilliamsjr Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​@@lesbiansaregoodandch
      He is not well. Dying from cancer. He has a podcast with his daughter.

    • @lesbiansaregoodandch
      @lesbiansaregoodandch Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@rmwilliamsjr got half of it right. And my comment is 6 months old now, it just called me boo boo mama choo choo

    • @bjdeee1239
      @bjdeee1239 Před 8 měsíci

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  • @2Oldcoots
    @2Oldcoots Před 8 měsíci +3

    Dr. Sugrue--Thank You for clarifying and integrating ideas that enrich our lives! Without you and your brilliant efforts the world would have remained a complete mystery but you have provided a path to understanding!!!

  • @arjungautam3263
    @arjungautam3263 Před 4 lety +39

    One of the great lecturer

  • @wookiedookie6899
    @wookiedookie6899 Před 2 lety +12

    I came here to watch the video after reading the book. Super impressed with how Prof. does it like story telling. Would’ve been privileged to attend one of his lectures and hear him speak in real life

  • @valentineanastassiou3411

    Dr Sugrue, Thank you for your kindness and your generosity to upload this exceptional lecture of yours, for us all to benefit from it. Your summary and analysis of the four books of the Republic is brilliant. Thank you again.

  • @philipswain4122
    @philipswain4122 Před 2 lety +6

    I dove into western philosophy at Descartes. I had many questions, the answers to which I found in the Republic. It took several reads and read-reads to understand. I then discovered This series of lectures and it all came clear. Many thanks for uploading. This is pure gold.

  • @user-re1yt8sw1z
    @user-re1yt8sw1z Před 27 dny

    Bless your soul doctor, thank you for keeping me company once more and far from it being the first time.

  • @dominicesteban3174
    @dominicesteban3174 Před rokem +14

    I searched high & low to get used copies of the originals years ago; this man is a genius communicator & teacher. Professor Sugrue was the first person who, for me, could even begin to unlock what all the fuss has been about for 2,500 years! BTW, one of the keys to the entire Platonic project is at 23'30"; replacing Homeric Heroes with Socratic ones. When you are told this, and also understand (again, from this professor, the first to make the connection explicit AFAIK) that Plato wrote "in a cold rage" at Athenian democracy (because it murdered Socrates unjustly [the parallels with the Crucifixion are unnerving]), then reading the Republic today is worthwhile. I just want to add that reading the Republic without a great teacher can, as a minimum, lead to abandonment or, worse, lead to fundamental misunderstanding, even for intelligent and well-read people. I say this because I heard Carl Sagan, a great mind if ever there as one, make crass & stupid comments about Plato and the Republic; if only Sagan had studied his philosophy under Sugrue he would have known better and therefore been the better for it. FWIW, I put Sugrue on the same level as Sagan when it comes to the combination of deep subject matter expertise combined with their personal, intellectual "awe"; a compelling combination in comparison with the majority of 'experts' who are either intellectually lightweight or terminally cynical....or both. Sagan is well-known as one of the most compelling communicators we've ever had, and I put Professor Sugrue up there with him.

  • @skobywankenobi
    @skobywankenobi Před 2 lety +12

    Thanks to this Sage I can now add Philosophy, psychology and the general prisms that generate the boundaries of modern intellectual discussion to the list of things I love, along with my Cat, oatmilk and raspberry jam, mysticism/gnosis.

  • @dorianphibian3172
    @dorianphibian3172 Před 2 lety +8

    Dr. Sugrue, your lectures are overwhelming brilliant, entertaining, and digestible. I can not thank you enough for making them publicly available. You are a philosopher king among men, & I am so grateful.

  • @flappyturtlesnatch
    @flappyturtlesnatch Před rokem +6

    I don't think there's an amount of money I would consider too much to pay to have been taught by this man. Incredible teacher

  • @zeferreviews3498
    @zeferreviews3498 Před 2 lety +13

    Thank you, so concise and knowledgeable. Love the clear enthusiasm and attention to detail. Very easy to follow but thought provoking and not dumbed down. This is what the internet’s for and we all appreciate this 🙏

  • @assholio
    @assholio Před 3 lety +14

    This is intense.

  • @arianalarios6801
    @arianalarios6801 Před 2 lety +5

    Deeply grateful that I am able to have access to such great ideas from this lecture, and for free!

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 Před 2 lety +4

    Wow
    This prof can speak well
    And is intelligent, w superb memory. He speaks w o notes!
    And he loves to teach, to explain, to help
    Way to go teacher

  • @ahawk7953
    @ahawk7953 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Unbelievable. He said "um" or "uh" MAYBE twice. Such an impressive teacher

  • @krumbergify
    @krumbergify Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much for making these lectures available. You embody Socrates love of knowledge and making it available to as many as possible.

  • @haimbenavraham1502
    @haimbenavraham1502 Před 3 lety +21

    Thank you, kindly professor. You and your lectures are forever, inspirational.

  • @rexgloriae316
    @rexgloriae316 Před rokem +1

    What a time we live in, thank you Prof!

  • @rohithjoseph6214
    @rohithjoseph6214 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks a lot Dr for these wonderful lectures. Most needed fo my soul now. And I am getting it for free. Truly Amazing!!

  • @manupgroup
    @manupgroup Před rokem +1

    I'm currently feeling very sick and this lecture allows me to get through it solely because of this man his passion

  • @alexzamora6386
    @alexzamora6386 Před 2 lety +2

    I am currently using these to aid in reading and understanding the “Republic”, your lectures on the dialogues have been of unquestionable value to this neophyte!

  • @orthostice
    @orthostice Před 2 lety +2

    I’m learning so much in these lectures

  • @steft7903
    @steft7903 Před 2 lety +1

    I watched these before reading the Republic. highly recommend! Really helped with my understanding on a deeper level.

  • @forty2888
    @forty2888 Před rokem

    THIS WAS THE MOST PROFOUND INSIGHT OF MY LIFE THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @gmckart
    @gmckart Před 2 lety

    I can’t stop bingeing these!

  • @loganm986
    @loganm986 Před 2 lety +5

    My prof introduced me to the Republic years ago. Still studying it. Thank you

  • @milanmatanovic574
    @milanmatanovic574 Před 4 lety +19

    Thank you so much for these lectures, outstanding quality !

  • @urigellarfella3680
    @urigellarfella3680 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you so much for uploading these are brilliant my friend 💙

  • @BaronM
    @BaronM Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you.

  • @retrogore420
    @retrogore420 Před 8 měsíci

    Very much enjoy this series. I have watched it many times, thank you.

  • @margaretmanfredo8410
    @margaretmanfredo8410 Před 4 lety +3

    Very Enjoyable, well done!

  • @caiolmoraes
    @caiolmoraes Před rokem

    Michael, thank you for your work. You're really talented

  • @stevenkenney6216
    @stevenkenney6216 Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent. Thank you so much

  • @keepingthebooks
    @keepingthebooks Před 3 lety +7

    Inspirational.

  • @madhusudan
    @madhusudan Před 2 lety +4

    Within the first 2 minutes my mind is on fire. The difference between the way things seem and the way they are is central to Buddhist philosophy. Another reaction: You can see something similar to the Sophists' intent in today's issues. As long as you dutifully mouth the dogma you won't get canceled, even though hardly anyone actually believes it.

  • @keithpharoah6110
    @keithpharoah6110 Před 2 lety +1

    That last line was deeply moving.

  • @yearzeroism
    @yearzeroism Před rokem +2

    Fascinating!

  • @AlphaWorldFitness
    @AlphaWorldFitness Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent videos. I’m glad I found your page! Thank you for all your hard work. 🤝

  • @cpt.kagoul
    @cpt.kagoul Před rokem

    This is my favourite content on CZcams

  • @nw8333
    @nw8333 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much.

  • @davepearen8954
    @davepearen8954 Před rokem +1

    This is an amazing lecture series this is the professor you dream about getting in university

  • @mildlyinteresting1000
    @mildlyinteresting1000 Před 2 lety +3

    This is amazing

  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy Před 2 lety +5

    27:40 Myth of Metals 32:46 Happy Ruling Elite?
    The Point of The Regime Is The Good of The Nation
    36:20 Harmony
    41:18 Mind over Body, Superior Eugenics
    43:19 Philosopher King

  • @mellownuance
    @mellownuance Před 3 lety +8

    You Sir, I learn oratory from you!

  • @TravelingPhilosopher
    @TravelingPhilosopher Před 2 lety +5

    If I may be bold enough to use a vernacular term to describe Dr. Michael Sugrue's oratory skills, 'he is the GOAT' :)

  • @mariaalaniz719
    @mariaalaniz719 Před 2 lety +2

    I had a feeling there was something wroing with this world. Thank you for Plateo for pointing at what it is.

  • @lornacurtis1975
    @lornacurtis1975 Před 3 lety +3

    thank you.

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před rokem +2

    Watched all of it 44:48

  • @patmoran5339
    @patmoran5339 Před rokem

    This is the best philosophy lecture I have I have watched on youtube. The very last comment in the lecture that there is something wrong in the world seems closed-ended to me. I like the (much less poetic I am sure) ideas around Popper's "Evolutionary Epistemology" that we will always have problems because the solution to each problem will reveal new problems. All knowledge, most importantly, moral knowledge, comes from within.

  • @shayharty9723
    @shayharty9723 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank You

  • @yemsen555
    @yemsen555 Před rokem

    This is great. I couldn't sit still in any class in college. This is just easy Pease philosophy study. Thanks Sir profferssor!!

  • @Jose-oq6kj
    @Jose-oq6kj Před 2 lety +1

    Michael is on fire in this one 🔥😳

  • @antoniovitale9770
    @antoniovitale9770 Před rokem

    Wish I could’ve been in one of his in person lectures. The goat.

  • @carmenfernandez5396
    @carmenfernandez5396 Před rokem

    Marvelous, thanks.

  • @roninstrength1883
    @roninstrength1883 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent 👏

  • @mizanursakib2076
    @mizanursakib2076 Před 2 lety +3

    thats a lifetime help to put out these lectures.. thank you sir!

  • @jj1985vid
    @jj1985vid Před 7 měsíci

    Just. Wow. Thank you for these fiercely relevant and crystal clear lectures! 35:45 Where is Socrates' soul and city today?! The only way out globally - not to continue to play or retaliate within our existing broken systems, but to create soul, city, harmony, and true justice.
    I try to have deep conversations with others at large because truth is the only valuable substance in this life, and the intellectual void and resistance I am met with is staggering. Perhaps I'll cross paths with a member of this community some day. 36:37 Dr. Sugrue, your passion and joy is both palpable and contagious. And yes! what a cliffhanger at 44:30 ! I can't wait for the next lecture in sequence!

  • @gamesandguns566
    @gamesandguns566 Před 9 měsíci

    Great lecture ! So applicable to what is happening to the Western world!

  • @maximiliandunschede8264
    @maximiliandunschede8264 Před 10 měsíci +1

    he is a genius thanks for uploading

  • @StoicFlame
    @StoicFlame Před 3 lety +1

    thanks for uplaoding

  • @KHAN23457
    @KHAN23457 Před rokem

    Old is Gold 💛

  • @armadatint
    @armadatint Před rokem

    Wow what a great talk

  • @daudkhan6198
    @daudkhan6198 Před 2 lety +1

    Thankyou.

  • @faysal8597
    @faysal8597 Před rokem

    Reading a classic like ‘the republic’ and having a Micheal Sugrue review is champagne philosophy

  • @JDHare-bq2gp
    @JDHare-bq2gp Před 4 měsíci

    Rest in peace Doctor, I have learned much from you, 💯❣️

  • @user-qc9cu3jw5x
    @user-qc9cu3jw5x Před 5 měsíci +1

    couldnt have let my lady around professor back in the day 😂 woulda stole her heart from me 🤣

  • @mikewood7958
    @mikewood7958 Před rokem +2

    Love the 1970’s graphics 😃

  • @ustinov9119
    @ustinov9119 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Yo!
    Yeah, you.
    Sugrue.
    You're a fucking legend!
    Much love from Scotland. 🤟

  • @genmaicha_
    @genmaicha_ Před 3 lety +46

    prof, how are you able to lecture at such length seemingly without any reference? do you have these memorized or is it the powers of your time studying these topics?

    • @dr.michaelsugrue
      @dr.michaelsugrue  Před 3 lety +221

      My Dad laughed when he heard the question because memorizing would mean the lecture was a mimesis of a man who knew what he is talking about. He says that he is the Ding an sich, a man who knows what he is talking about, not a digital representation. He says only speaks extemporaneously and says he's just thinking out loud when he lectures and he has no idea what he said in any of them because 3 seconds after its over he forgets what he said. Dad finished with, study Chuang Tzu's parable of the cook and the emperor. Learn to focus like Coltrane, Beethoven, Santana and they may teach you how to become a human superconductor of the Holy Spirit: pure flow, zero impedance.

    • @TheReconRacoon
      @TheReconRacoon Před 3 lety +57

      @@dr.michaelsugrue even this response is poetry

    • @nathangriffiths2851
      @nathangriffiths2851 Před 3 lety +19

      @@dr.michaelsugrue I legit feel like an idiot when reading this amazing

    • @martynpotter21
      @martynpotter21 Před 3 lety +24

      @@dr.michaelsugrue That is one of the most elegant responses to a question I have come across. A true man of knowledge, Professor Sugrue.

    • @johnmartin2813
      @johnmartin2813 Před 2 lety +6

      @@dr.michaelsugrue : Wow!

  • @nhatnamphan9694
    @nhatnamphan9694 Před 10 měsíci +1

    1. Good man kill unjustice
    2. Socrate is new Achiles
    3. Control inner soul... organize ourself
    Grateful ❤

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před rokem +2

    Watching 1:03

  • @xXabstractXx
    @xXabstractXx Před rokem

    Einstein said that you don’t truly understand something until you can explain it to a 6 year old. Or something like that. To understand the Republic this well is truly brilliant.

  • @petersantospago1966
    @petersantospago1966 Před 4 měsíci

    "city of pigs!" Beautiful... Oh that's 🤣😂🤣.... Love it!!

  • @1k1ngst0n
    @1k1ngst0n Před rokem

    great video lecture. I prefer this look on him without the beard.

  • @JDNicoll
    @JDNicoll Před 2 lety +8

    The ending of this video is hilarious. I watched the video before this one and was intrigued. Then, in this video I watched Plato just go off the rails. And then it ends with, “clearly, there’s something wrong with the world.” Hilarious. The brick wall of (almost) every great thinker.

    • @JDNicoll
      @JDNicoll Před 2 lety +1

      Edit: I maybe I should qualify, every great western thinker.

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 Před 9 měsíci

      The gnostics can explain it.

  • @josephsaczawa329
    @josephsaczawa329 Před rokem

    The intro music put me straight into academia mode.

  • @itsjustmetepora8436
    @itsjustmetepora8436 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you, you are a great inspiration, I watched a video of you lecturing on the symposium were you say that "love is the yearning for eternity" and you give a great example, I can't find this video, can you please help and point me in the right direction, I need this inspiration again

    • @thaGkillah
      @thaGkillah Před rokem

      Here you go: czcams.com/video/xJBwIIeebho/video.html
      The definition of love as the yearning for eternity starts with the speech of Socrates at 33:33

  • @danielpincus221
    @danielpincus221 Před 2 lety +1

    It's a shame that the dates of these lectures are not given. This was a merely uploaded in 2020.

  • @Josephus_vanDenElzen
    @Josephus_vanDenElzen Před rokem

    6:21 Aligned with Nietzsche's view on ethics

  • @DLiuUMD
    @DLiuUMD Před 2 lety +1

    If I understand correctly, Plato's argument that justice is inherently good is based on an argument that justice is necessary to create a good society. Please let me know if I've misunderstood.

  • @liopergonsd58
    @liopergonsd58 Před 2 lety +2

    20:00 best part

  • @esoxjem
    @esoxjem Před 2 lety +3

    I love these! Thank you for sharing them. Where could I find the entire video series? Is it available for purchase?

    • @steft7903
      @steft7903 Před 2 lety +1

      I think pretty much all/most are on CZcams. But I believe you can find them through Amazon...I think

  • @benbell9170
    @benbell9170 Před 3 lety +1

    And that thing is the second low of thermodynamics!!

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia
    @Ealdorman_of_Mercia Před 3 lety +7

    I'm confused. Dr Michael Sugrue seems to be actively uploading recent lectures, but they look like they were tapped in the 80's with VHS.

    • @rolandoaltamirano2724
      @rolandoaltamirano2724 Před 3 lety +15

      We’re lucky he’s finally making them available on this media, indeed they were recorded a few decades ago. Enjoy these jewels.

  • @llJRLL1979ll
    @llJRLL1979ll Před 3 lety +7

    Holy sh*t, what a line to end on.

    • @allthingsgardencad9726
      @allthingsgardencad9726 Před 3 lety +1

      its perfect, because he knows later he will head into the bible, where its whole premise from the start is that the "world is Broken" Man cannot bring justice.. Only God. even our greatest men in Plato and Socrates try and fail..

    • @cyruswang9354
      @cyruswang9354 Před 2 lety +1

      @@allthingsgardencad9726 wait then doesn't that ultimately imply justice does not exist in our world?

    • @radekjanuszewski519
      @radekjanuszewski519 Před 3 měsíci

      No, just because we thought earth was centre of universe does not make it so. We need to keep searching while mantaining "moderacy" that was the third leg here. My 2copper

  • @Laocoon283
    @Laocoon283 Před 2 lety

    I missed so much symbolism that you mentioned here, i.e the bronze horse etc..., on my first read through.

  • @mazaroth7
    @mazaroth7 Před 10 měsíci

    Great lecture, this is why I prefer Aristotle's politics

    • @_PanchoVilla
      @_PanchoVilla Před 10 měsíci

      Aristotle is a step down from Plato

  • @Sully_one
    @Sully_one Před 2 lety

    thanks for the upload, are these videos uploaded in a row? i mean they are attachable based on ulpad date? or i should search for them based on their part?

  • @spencergilbert5891
    @spencergilbert5891 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you put the audio of everything you have especially these lectures from the 80s or whatever time this is on Spotify or somewhere where I can just listen to it? Because I would listen to it all the time. And you would have I’m sure a ton more audience engagement. Thanks

  • @sirazazeloflowkey6424
    @sirazazeloflowkey6424 Před 2 lety +1

    "..So that they are the epithomy of what a human can be.."
    Plato Wanted an Army of Batmen. 😂

  • @JeffTallakson
    @JeffTallakson Před 3 lety +3

    In one lecture Michael made an aside mentioning that Genesis has sexual over-or-under tones. But in that lecture he did not teach about Genesis. I would love to see, hear or read Sugrue on Genesis. I wish the Teaching Company gave him that lecture rather than to the other lecturers that covered Genesis. Sugure was never pedestrian in his subjects, he was always deep in his analysis.