SLF MOTION OSPW vs. CERAMICSPEED (WHICH SHOULD YOU BUY?) DIFFERENCE EXPLAINED *WEIGHTS AND PRICES*
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I can hear Peak Torque scream, "Absolute ludicrous prices", and he is right.
I hope he will still consider to be friends with me
That’s because he’s poor. This is a rich man’s upgrade.
Yes!!! Blake is a great dude and puts his heart and soul into the product. I can promise you after trying a bunch of different items, I’ve been beyond pleased with my SLF Motion experience. Great comparison GC
Thanks so much :)) and yes blake is a really nice guy
Totally agree👌
SLF has done an amazing job on those . The whole package and color options really separate themselves compared to ceramic speed . I did go with Novaride for the new solid black and price. Hear them may have some chrome wrapped ones coming out 👀. Huge congrats on 10K ! Well deserved !
Thank you so much!!! I alwasy appreciate the support on every single video I get form you! Thank you for being here since the beginning it means alot to me :)
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Congrats on 10k viewers. Keep up the excellent videos. I put SLF on one bike and Nova Ride on the other. I rode the SLF so far it felt smooth it’s on a Campy groupo that has ceramic bearings on my BB. Thanks to your videos I love them both. Especially the look ! Keep coming with Great content !
That is awesome! and thank you so much for always supporting me!!!
DUUUUUUDE 10 k subs amazing, well done GC absoutley deserved...........................
Thanks a ton! your a legend!!!
you one of the nicest youtubers ngl love the content keep up
Thanks so much man. I’m trying to just show cool products and stuff that I feel like people will like
Great video as per usual. As a 70.3 triathlete, and competing in the UK TT scene, i'd really like to see a comparison between the aero SLF cage option and ceramic speed. Think it might be a popular video.
lemme see if I can egt my hands on one :)
I was so ready to buy ceramic speed, Thanks for sharing SLF Motions. SLF hits all the marks of what I was looking for.
Jewelry but I love it:D Thanks for showing them all together. I want to see the whole range from SLF. Congrats on hitting 10K! subs.
Thank you! Will do!
Great video as always. Congrats on the 10k 🎉.
Thanks so much! I always appreicate you stopping by!!
Ohhh wow you're already in 10k subs. Congrats man
Thanks! 😃 I never thought I would ever get this far when I started
Just ordered my #slfmotion osw. After watching this, glad i ordered from Blake. Thanks so much for the review.
10kkkkk!!!!!!!! Congrats! 🎉🎊🍾
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I appreciate youbeing hear always my friend!!!
grats dude you made it 🎉🎊
Lol thanks so much!!!!!
Thank you for your review, it does speak true for the Ceramic speed OSPW, I own two of them and I attest to my experience they one of mine broke on the cage on a Campagnolo super record derailleur. Very disappointed and frustrated. I like the look of the robust cage of SLF and wouldn't might to give it a try. They also look the business 👌
thanks so much!!! I appreciate it
The pulley wheels on my stock Ultegra 8000 rear mech uses bearings rather than bushings.
yes you are right, I noticed when I pulled them apart, I was confused form the relpacement ones we had on the wall
great video! I be buying the slf motion down the road for my gravel/all road bike
yea they make realy nice and quality product
Thank you for sharing your valuable insights.
Glad it was helpful!
Congrats mate
thank you so much!!!!!!!
Dura Ace has bearings both on top and lower jockey wheels. Heavily greased but bearings there are.
ahhh yes, thank you for this.... I opened them up after you said this and I stand corrected :)
This was great, looking to get one (SLF) soon.
its very nice in person!!!
From what I’ve heard Ceramic Speed cages are not actually carbon, they are a plastic/composite mixture molded together
yes they are pretty flimsy and they do look plasticyyyy but they are proclaimed carbon and I dont have evidence to prove otherwise lol
Justin M you are right. GC Performance on their website they say cages are made of „Carbon reinforced PA“, so they don’t proclaimed to be carbon.
My custom Kollosos just arrived from Kogel in gold and blue to go with my cobalt brassy SL7.. all about the looks!
Do you need to re-oil these every couple weeks like the race prep Kogel?
no way that is going to look so nice!!!! ocngrats my friend!!!
I was thinking keep the Shimano and change the pulley with ceramic bearings from BB Infinite. Keep the cost down, lighter and several colors to choose from. Just my thoughts.
yea for sure I know plenty of people who have gone this route as well, whatever is in your budget and YOU are happy with at the end of the day... its your bike and you have to ride it
It would be great to see a comparison of the NovaRide vs SLF. Are you getting more performance or quieter performance, or more durability for the extra cash outlay compared to NovaRide?
yes please @GC Performance do it a review!
It's the smoothness of the wheels in the OSPW that is most impressive but whether that makes a difference in your ride is still subjective.
YESSSSSS!!!! there we go, finally someone who understands peoiple feel different things.... its like someone loving a certain food and showing it to someone else and they hate it..... its just a feel
I went with the Ceramic Speed and also installed the Ceramic Speed bottom bracket at the same time....butter.
Sweet, makes absolute sense to add the BB at the same time. The entire system needs to be ceramic bearings to really get the claimed gains imo.
You got to put ceramic wet lube on your chain too to get the full gains. :)
helll yea!!!!!!! a man who gets it!!! it is always smooth
@@GCPerformance18 I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't use those dumb looking jockey wheels if you gave me a set.
Can you please do a nova ride v slf v shimano vid please also congratulations on 10k👍
I have another nova ride coming in soon so maybe I can squeeze it out
Yet again, missing some key points!
Main purpose of oversized pulley wheels is to reduce the small angles you put the chain through. The smaller the angle you put the chain throughout the more friction and more watts lost. Same theory as running bigger chainrings and bigger cogs at the back.
That’s what I said if you watched the whole video. The bigger wheels allow it
We sell this too But i preffere the normal Pulli wheels with ceramic berings !
But what the costomer Wants we sell !
Great Review again.
The shop I work in sells SLF Motion OSPWs too, but you won't ever see one on any of my bikes.
yea I have had those as well in by bike to I dont miund either one.... they work great both of the.... they are expensive but very cool looking
Do you need to get a longer chain if you upgrade to the ceramic speed ??
They weight 90% more than stock dura ace. They cost more money. They give negligible performance. Why?
I dont think they weigh 90 percent I weighed them and all its only 33 grams
Solid comparison bro! As someone obsessed with having the latest tech on my bike, I can tell you that honestly, it’s a minimal performance improvement meant for when you have already maxed out your training & every other aspect of the bike itself so that those 1-3 watts are the difference maker. Few riders (me included) are there. I can say that switching the bottom bracket & OSPW to CS, my pedals have almost no resistance & spin pretty freely, to the point they almost pedal themselves & this definitely provides a mental placebo effect while training- to whatever degree. Keep up the solid work bro. Great stuff.
helll yea, thats what I felt too while riding when I had ceramicspeed bb and ospw it felt effortless when pulling, but thats just my experience
I’m too cheap to pay for that kind of stuff and not really sure about the watt benefits but I replaced my stock Shimano pulleys w/ OmniRacer Ti Ceramic (reg size set are $50 and oversized are $70) I got the reg sized RED pulleys to match my bike...they’re out of Texas.
I mean yea thats the spirit I got my first ceramicspeed ospw jsut for flair points and the red wheels matched my bike lol but also......... the gains hahaha
My Bike Shop in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 sell the SLF & I am waiting on the 12 Speed Di2 Shimano Version.
According 2 them they timed the Spin between these 2 Brands & the SLF out lasted the Ceramic Speed . Currently they have just installed a cheaper brand jockey wheels on my Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset SL7 S-WORKS untill they become available.
My New Steed should be ready 4 pick up this coming Wednesday
very nice that is awesome!!
Can you do one on kogel OSPW? Might buy ceramic bb and get ceramic pulley wheels for $60 get nice bundle for under $300.
I will try and get some in stock and see what I can mustard up for you
@@GCPerformance18 ok thanks! They look good I see them give to popular riders to promote on Instagram
Congratulations on the 10k subscribers!
I’d say it’s mostly hype on the ceramic bearings, happened with fishing reels too a number of years ago. Guess if you don’t mind paying then no worries then.
Thank you so much!!!!!! and yes like you said I think more just osmething for someone to buy to add to there bike for looks and because it makes them happy
Bummed I wasn’t first this time 😂
lol there will be many more lol
I kinda hope OSPW's trickle down to budget groupsets like Alivio, Deore or 105.
I know novaride ospw makes one for 105 they are nice too and around 225 usd
@@GCPerformance18 nice, planning on getting one now since my 105 pulley wheels have degraded already to the point they became shark tooths.
Im going to use a OSPW. How much more chain links do I need? Using 52/36-11/30. Currently shimano Ultegra long cage.
Your gonna need a brand new chain so it’s 116 links. And with Ultegra long cage. Your gonna need to get a Kogel to work with that derailer with the long cage
@@GCPerformance18 the whole 116 links are needed? I dont need the long cage as I wont use more than 36-30. I bought a "cheap" kcnc ospw. Lets see how it works.
Why exactly do they have to be ceramic bearings? I'd be happy to buy one at a reasonable price with normal bearings since it's mostly a cosmetic upgrade anyway.
shitttt thats not a bad idea actually, I wouldnt mind selling that either
Still waiting for 12 speed shimano green ceramic speed. About to go with slf just to get green
really? yea I do not know when they will release another gren one again, nova to ride has a green one
I would like to win one of those but I run 11 speed super record campanola always watch you🤠👍🚲
All for looks
but....... they doo lok pretty cool doe
@@GCPerformance18 most definitely yes
What’s your thought on the AliExpress OSP?
never had one but I wouldnbt be opposed to trying it if its super cheap just be careful for quality
I think this is all marketing, if it were an improvement, the brands themselves would have included it in their changes.
of course it is,,,, evrythign is marketing...... but i mean it does lok cool and also I mean the claims are 1-3 watts but I am sure that varies per rider and what kind of bike and how much that rider weighs... I think it is more jsut something to upgrade to add character to the bike
Any thoughts on the Kogel Kolossos OSPW?
I like kogel alot they are a very nice option for a cheaper price but have a high standard with the name they carry they just arnt as free spinning at first because they are packed more
What are you talking about? It’s literally just a guide. There’s no force been put on it. By the act of peddling. I agree if the bearings spin really really freely as opposed to stiff you might get a nano watt more performance. But if you like the look, and you can justify the extortionate cost, then go for it
I want one on my bike.
me to son.... me tooo
With the OSPW is there alot chain slap sound and gear shift in the RD has a noticeable lag when changing gears?
Especially if you try to use it with a larger cassette (like 11-32) and a long-caged rear derailleur, there will be shift delays between the 2nd-highest and the highest (as in, hardest to pedal in) gear because the B-tension gap is much larger now. With smaller cassettes and a short-caged rear derailleur, this is less likely to happen.
there is not a lot of chain slap but it depends where you ride, our roads here are very very smooth so I might nto be the best to answer this..... also not really any gear changing lag as long as you put on the right chain length and its fitted right
your nto suppose to put a 11-32 with the ospw, its not compatiable, from standards of ceramicspeed, you can do it but its not advised too
@@GCPerformance18 Exactly. I've seen a few road bikes with both 11-32 cassettes and OSPWs, just because they want to run this system.
Nice
Very nice
ceramic bearings have zero advantage compared to steel, besides weight (single digit grams). Apart from that, the huge rear derailleur cage adds 1-2 Watts of drag.
Thanks for the info! I am sure its not going to determine whether you beat the guy next to in the sprint but sometimes peoiple just want to upgrade and spend money that they are okay with spending.... to each there own
@@GCPerformance18 I have no issues with that. Quite the contrary :D Ive put fuc**** purple pulley wheels on my Venge just for the looks. I just dont like companies telling marketing BS
Had to check calender. Thought it was April 1st.
$500? 😂P. T. Barnum was right....
I mean it all dpeends on if you wanna buy one or not, by no means is it required to ride a bike..... so its jsut for people who are looking for a upgrade
So, for $500 I'm paying for a free rolling bearing and a bigger gear? Goddamn! Money has no value anymore. Honestly though, I need to ride a bike with one of these back to back with a stock set up to see if it's worth it. Do I need to add more links to my chain to make these work?
To run an OSPW system, you'll need a new chain, which will be longer than your previous chain.
yes new chain, but this is like a accessorie piece it is not a necessary item by any means, its just something to add if you cant add anything more, or to give your bike character
that's the biggest waste of money
hey to each there own.... might be a waste to you but It might make someones day because it gave the bike the look they were going for like a new pair of shoes or a watch..... a watch is a waste of money if you think abouit it....
Anything can be considered as a waste of money
$500 really! Wow ! Don't ever fall!
I wouldnt be worried about that if I feel
How did you become a mechanic? Serious question
my father owned the store and then I got thrown into it not knwoing anything and also starting with sales and then working my way to working on the bikes and being the fitter and now im the top mechanic here... I have faith in myself to fix whatever problem there is lol
@@GCPerformance18 That’s cool. I’m a nurse by profession, but I constantly tinker with my bikes. I’ve done pretty much everything on my own, but do you think it’s better to take an actual class for mechanics to be better and maybe acquire employment for experience?
Ceramicspeed is really overpriced for the little watt advantage it gives
lmfaoooooo I wouldnt expect any other comment with a name like that but thank you for watching and yes you can say that
Slf is garbage. 2 years ago I ordered one for the Shimano 9070. When I installed, it did not seal the sprint that give the tension to the Derraliur. I went to my bike shop thinking I was doing something wrong anf nope, it was like that, I would not seat flush and seal the sprint. I contacted the SLF on FB messanger and send photos showing the issue and explaining that either the pulley was designed wrong or I got a bad one. I requested my money back. The owner himself replied back to me insulting me for saying his product was bad, even refused to refund my money. I opened a claim with paypal and less than an hour after opening yhe claim, he sent me a message saying “ you opened a claim? Nice I will now hold your money till the claim is over”. I took photos of that and send it to PayPal. I got my money less than 2 hours after that. If you check his website he no longer offers the shimano 9000/9070 version, I wonder why.... I then ordered the ceramic speed and it sealed the sprint completely! The way it should be! My advice, dont buy SLF! Get Ceramicspeed or something else. For the record, I have the whole conversation still saved in FB messenger!
That sounds horrible. I never say with that version but with the new ones I got hands on for the work amazing. Honestly they install just live every other one. But the situation with the owner sounds crappy. Cant speak on that
is it compatible with 105?
Nova ride makes one for 105 and it’s $225 retail
Have any available USE CODE for SLF?
I do not, he doesnt offer any
@@GCPerformance18 SLF if wanted to popular he needs to boost CZcamsr channel
Wow
very wow
I have the Ceramicspeed on my Factor OSTRO not sure it makes much difference but it looks dammed sexy🤣👍
im sure that thing looks so sexy, I havent seen the new facotr bikes in person yet but I hope to do so
For me Ceramic Speed always looked like a laughable, cheap, plastic crap. I am aware they are actually very expensive, but they do not look convincing at all.
Some Chinese derailleur cages on Ali and other pages actually look heaps better and I would not be surprised, if they were preformed way better too.
On the other hand, SLF does look awesome and is clearly a way higher quality.
slf for sure has the premium feel to it, and is also a great looker
Why?
I mean it all dpeends on if you wanna buy one or not, by no means is it required to ride a bike..... so its jsut for people who are looking for a upgrade
@@GCPerformance18 What upgrade though?
I assume that with the amount of frictional difference we are talking about here, there is essentially no mechanical advantage that a human could detect or notice.
Ahhh correction... Shimano is made in Japan big difference lol.
lol my apologies
Wrong,,its made all over Asia,,Thailand,Malaysia , Philippines and China
@@MrBolonio I stand corrected but here are the actual manufacturing plants outside of Japan.
Shimano's primary manufacturing plants are in Kunshan, China; Malaysia; and Singapore.
You LOST my attention in this video at the price.....I'll pass.....
lmao understandable...... its not for everyone
You don't get nearly as many likes as you deserve
complete and utter waste of money ceramic bearings have no application in the cycle industry. if you want real engineering input go watch real qualified engineers like hambini
ummmmmm I mean like isnt hambinis forte like trashing everything the industry makes..... so like cant it be expected in every video that hes going to find a bike thats mass produced with a problem and couldn't there be the exact same scenario where he finds the exact smae bike with perfect engenering just because the was produced better at the time..... you understand what I am saying he is going after massive companies and there are bound to be flaws in some products thats why there are support and warranty teams for everything you buy that is mass produc ed... there will always be someone who buys something who gets screwed and then you will hear form someone else saying that theres is perfect and they are in love with the product..... you get where I am coming from? I mean I love hambani and I think he is way smarter then me and obviously he knows his stuff...... I am jsut showing people products that are out there that they can buy and upgrade there bikes.... its like exhaust for a car, it doesnt really give you a noticeable performance but you enjoy it for the sound or the look of the new tips on the back.... but still there is no need for it, some people jsut have the itch to spend money because it makes them happ or they enjoy what they are doing... idk food for thought
Biggest money waste ever.
@Andre Calvit :)
HA
ehhhhhhhh I mean I can think of others doe
As always great vids.
Congrats on the upcoming 10k, I’d like to say I helped out😛😊
You're the best! I appreciate you always being hear and always supporting every video!!!!! thank you again