Livall PikaBoost E-Bike Conversion Kit | What has been revealed so far
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Livall, a small company that specializes in helmets, has just released details on their new e-bike conversion kit. In this video we're going to go over everything that we know about the specs, details, and pricing information.
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I was all set to buy one, then I saw this video. I think I'm going to hold off now, and wait to see the actual reviews when the public starts to use the device. If it's as good as it says it is, buying at full price won't be a deal breaker. At least for me. Thanks for the review.
I’m hoping that it is good, but I guess we’ll see. I’ve reached out to Livall to see if they’ll send me a unit to review when it’s available and let everybody know if it’s worth it. Thanks for the comment!
@@BikeHombre have you heard back
@@spacecadetjimmy371 Yeah, they said that they didn’t have any review units available. When it’s released I’m going to try again.
@@BikeHombre I am not surprised. I think it would be pretty telling if someone like ebikeschool can’t get a hold of it, because that would throw up some red flags for me. Most likely going to be similar to the Rubbee X, I can’t imagine it would be all that strong with rubber on rubber. I’ve never had an e-bike and I’m considering doing some kind of conversion kit with my bike, but it’s a 29er so I’m not sure of what to do. I think I’d prefer something I can do myself and that would definitely be limited to the front wheel, but I don’t know a reputable 29” front wheel conversion kit from all the other junk around alibaba and Amazon and everywhere else.
i was about to put in my credit card number just today. then thought it hard and i dont mind losing US$200 for that reviews from other users when this device is out. meanwhile i will still use my ebike.
I’ve been looking into ebikes, but it seems like as of now, no company is really perfect in terms of customer support or reliability unless you’re spending upwards of $3000. Which is just something I can’t afford to do right now. So for me, a simple to install and relatively affordable kit like this would be great, even if it lacks power.
most all my E-bikes have been conversions. and yes some kits are better than others when it come to installation. This remind me of the Old E-bikes from the 1980's that had an electric motor on the front wheel mounted to a spring board, when you wanted to engage the motor you would squeeze what looks like a brake handle to both pull the motor roller to the wheel and start it. with an old lead acid battery. You mentioned that it is small for an electric bike motor but I have seen folks using dewalt drills for E-bikes so there is that.
I dont think this is the first friction based e-bike system, but it sure does look interesting! Am sad that you can’t use a rear rack with it though.
You can! Mount it low on the post in a vertical orientation!
I too am very skeptical about the drive system. But back in the old old days, we ran a little generator wheel against the edge of the tired (flat inner side of tire, not outside treat surface, mind you) and they worked great, other than causing extreme drag on the bike, so we could run a headlight etc back when rechargeable batteries were a joke and light bulbs were all incadescent.
So my big question is the tread thing for sure... combined also with the way it puts pressure on the tire... the method of technology, I mean, since it must give a fair bit if there is a suspension on the wheel, and if it is moving up and down and all around on that suspension then the wheel contact will be terrible, if functional at all. But presumably it is hinged with a stiff spring of some sort... so ... maybe??? it'll work???
PikaBoost, beauty market dream...just a dream for now.Concepts and I+D is disruptive.Could be the best expectactions marketing campaign I have seen.
I want one of those tiny motors like the pros use that fit in the seat tube.
I am all in. I would buy it. I don't need much on my ride. It is 20 miles one way down hill then flat then up hill. However the return after a swim is like... "honey come pick me up, Please". If I had some help on the way back, I would not have to call her.
Cool idea but I'm skeptical. How much power can really be delivered with the limited traction a rubber wheel on a rubber wheel provides... It's not going to be that much pressure from the units rubber to the bike wheel also (nothing near what u would get in a hub motor). Also it's tiny, the power output muts be pretty low based purely on battery size
I read it's 250watts, but the regen capability has me intrigued. I live in the rural mountains with some steep grades out my front gate. I'm old now with bum knees and bad lower back, so I haven't been riding, but really miss it. I just bought an E-bike at an attractive Black Friday price, to get back into it...One of these mounted as a brake assist on steep downhill sections, theoretically could help charge my main battery to length it's range and longevity (less heating/wear)
I think I'm going to give it a try...
Read it was 250 Watts.
@@BigWaveDav1 that's super low powered then
I don't think that this is supposed to compete with a hub motor e-bike. If you are just looking for a little help getting up hills while you are bicycling, not e-bicycling, this looks pretty slick. The rubber wheel driving the bicycle tire is not anything new. I remember 60 yrs ago they had 2 cycle motors that drove the front tire like that. Probably longer than 60 yrs ago, but I'm about 70 yrs old, so that's as far back as I know about. If it really has an 18 mile range and really does work on hills this sounds like a great idea for a lot of riders that are not concerned with trying to convert their bike into a motorcycle. Lol. Maybe throw an extra battery in you backpack and go. The whole thing can be put in a pack and taken with you. $600 is a bit much though, and I wish China didn't make everything. The $300 introductory price seems like a deal.
Will be also huge losses because of friction. Aslo diagram on the website shows us that the same ebikes has the same range. But use less energy to overcome this range (180W). So.. Not efficient as for me, but sounds very attractive
I ordered one and cant wait to get it and see use it
Once you receive and get a chance to use please let me know how you like it.
Ujk
Review please
Not sure if it will hold grip on treaded MTB tyres
It cost a lot of money for research and development, that much is true. But I have seen similar units coming out of China over the last couple of years, I don't think this is quite as new a technology as they would have you believe, maybe just nee to the west.
Great idea though, whatever brand, especially for a 'sunday' cyclist such as myself. I haven't tried one of these kits yet, but it seems like a great idea.
guess the seat post locking mechanism might go loose over time
The motor turning the giant tire will give it a top speed of about 8 mph. Versus down on the rotor for 20 mph and up.
Yes I agree this kit seem to be too good to be true. I am considering converting my ATB and wanting the simplest, easiest way of doing it . This design looks light years ahead of everything else on the market and if it’s a good as they claim it ought to clean up , sales wise. However let’s see what customers think of it first!
I believe can be much better,oh yes!.more batterys,more pressure,more power. I just wait.
where i buy this in canada
I've been looking for something that can turn my moped into somewhat of a hybrid. Something like this is perfect. I hope this puts out some decent take off power. That's mainly where the moped needs the power. Then after that switch to the gas engine.
I have a strida and it’s an unconventional type of bike ! Will it work with that type ???
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. czcams.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Do you smell it ? It smell like a scam here. Use friction for conversion kit is not new, but this one is too good to be true.
Does it come with a speed controller knob/button or something? How do I actively control the speed?
It looks like there’s 3 settings and it delivers power based on the cadence. Puts that’s just speculation since I could only find limited info. I reached out to Livall to see if they’d provide a review unit so I can find out more
@@BikeHombre Ah I see. Thanks 👍🏽
But how does it work? How does it know when to provide power, stop providing power, regenerate?
The little wheel must spin very fast and thus be very noisy.
How do I purchase the pika boost?I want to order one please
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Can Pikaboost go to front bycicle wheel versus the back???
My understanding is that it’s for the rear wheel.
I also wonder if it would have a negative effect on a dropper post.
Valid point, I didn't even think of that.
Better than a Zap brand I had as the stone wheel was no wet friendly this should be plenty for work etc? The design is so feasible to me in the same physics but better battery and what voltage etc and don't I need more recharge than regeneration? [and how?]
I just ordered mines I hope it's good
How is it?
No neutral mode? You are always in the assits mode or recharge mode. Sometimes you don't need assists on flat road to save baterei, but your stroke much harder because you are always recharging.
For the people talking about how crazy this is or even the price, theres one for cheaper than 599 called the rubbeex
Is that one out? How is it?
the problem is rubbeex has the wires and connection needed. this device just need to fix to the seat post, i hope
@@happyface8674 did you mean to reply to my comment? But in response, I don’t trust this start up, not without in depth analysis of the tech. I won’t donate until then. Too many are scams.
I got the rubeeX. Yes turns my bike in an instant. 35 km/hr max using all 3 battery pack. Downside: if it's not properly secured to the seatpost it will sway away out of alignment with the rearwheel when cycling specially rough roads and slippage is likely on wetroads. If used longer, the unit tends to heat up specially on high speeds and longer time of use. So far I still use the rubeeX at present. Livall Pikaboost is a scam guys. Tried ordering 2 units two years ago , till now no news
So if you can easily remove the seat with it attached. Does that mean I could remove it to carry it in a bag while on the bus?
Because my local bus company won't allow ebikes.
Yep, great point!
I saw in one of the trailers even if you cant remove your seat you can remove it yourself or if your phone is a certain distance away it locks, which wouldn’t be very useful if your seat comes off easily I imagine
The video at 3:28 shows a guy removing the device from a backpack, quickly installing it on the bike, and riding away. Stowaway when you're not using it.
I assume its not compatible with bikes with rear racks
Could this really work on a Fat Tire Bike? If it was going to give me more power to all my fat butt around I would even accept a unit that was three times the size
If it is good I will buy it! Great idea! Fun video!
How do I purchase th
Pika boost
How do I buy pika boost
As of right now, it's only available on their Indiegogo site as a preorder; but it's supposed to release in July. I left the link in the video description to their website, which links to the Indiegogo site.
Don’t know about the validity of the device but the company are legit they sell helmets in the UK
This is not a new idea. Clive Sinclair had a similar idea 30 years ago. Like most of Sinclair’s ideas, it was way beyond its time. The batteries were Ni-Cad, i believe. So Livall is carrying on from where others left off.
Where to buy? Give a link.
They would need to send me this to test before I send them a cent.
That’s my thought process too. Hopefully I can test to verify if it’s legit
It's only for bikes without mudguards
@Steve 75 thanks
dear sir tell there you buy them amazon uk not have them
Some needs to test the Peekabost before I believe it.
Agreed. I requested a product from them to review…we’ll see what happens
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I find it incredible that anyone could have such a ridiculous idea.
Firstly, you need a mudguard in the rain or your back gets drenched.
Secondly the friction wheel would slip in the wet, unless it was so firmly pressed to the tyre that it would wear out your rubber.
Thirdly, seat height is restricted, not everyone rides with eight inches of seat-tube extended
Finally, pneumatic seat tubes or suspension, or a rear rack are impossible.
A fine example of a chocolate fireguard.
Uhm you like to ride your bike in the rain!?? no thanks
@@Fremen02 ... "like" -- don´t be silly Omar, it's not always a matter of choice.
I disagree. The fundamental idea is more than doable.
1. I agree about the mudguard. They should have put one in, but it doesn't mean the friction drive concept is so terrible.
2. Presence of slip is a drawback of the friction drive, but smart technology in the motor controller and a suitable contact wheel and contact mechanism can minimise both slippage and increased tyre wear to manageable levels. It will never be the perfect ebike conversion solution that will satisfy everyone... but some people will prefer the lower cost and ease of installation with the trade-off of occasional slippage and minor increase in tyre wear rate. And may I add that slippage will only happen in bad weather, when frankly you wouldn't want to be riding anyway - and a well designed drive should still be overall usable in bad weather. This device could also be very conveniently removed by the user and carried around or left on your work desk, so as to prevent the value of the electric system (motor, battery and controller) from being stolen if the bike is stolen. This, combined with fewer parts, like a separate motor wheel, can keep the cost lower. It's all about tradeoff.
3. It's not compatible with every bike setup in terms of seat post or rear rack, but it doesn't mean it's garbage. Using the same logic, you could write off a typical wheel hub motor conversion kit, because there is no one size fits all and there are different wheel sizes. Or a mid-drive solution because not all bikes have the correct hardware around the crank shaft. My point is that it's all about tradeoff, and this solution could work well for a lot of people. No one said it would work for everyone.
I’ve just ordered one of these hope it’s ok
Nice! Once you get it and have a chance to try it out let me know how you like it. I’m sure there’s a lot of people who are curious about someone’s real world experience. Thank you for the comment!
Is there a retailer that sells this because it fits perfectly on my bike & if so, is there one in DC? I’m sick of walking, using my legs like a sucker!
From my understanding, this conversion kit is still on Kickstarter; but supposedly it is going to released in July. If you live in the UK, there is a conversion kit almost identical to this called Rubbee and it is available to purchase
@@BikeHombre Great. I reside In The U.S.!
Cuanto cuesta, y donde se puede conseguir?
I see that they have a charging cable, but there is not any reference to charging other than the regenerative capabilities. I am also concerned as to the level of control management of the individual battery cells. Lithium batteries need to be handled carefully during charging to prevent over charging and to detect overheating cells. That is the job of the controller. The image it show of it is very small and looks insufficient to manager multiple cells. We will have to wait and see. I like the concept. I hope it does work as promised. At 70 years of age, I have seen to many false claims and unfulfilled promises. It is dangerous being on the bleeding edge of technology.
Will not work for short people, you must have enough seat post sticking out of the frame.
You could possibly use a very small framed bike with that would allow a few inches of seat post. You could go to a bike shop, explain your concern and try out a bunch of
From where this kit can bay
I payed for one of these and didnt get it sent me 2 shity wrist bands instead
Expensive
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Where can I purchase a Livall Pickaboost in the USA
If you go to their website there is a link to their Indiegogo. I just checked this morning and evidently it starts shipping on September 11th. I have requested one for review, so we'll see if I can get one to put it through its paces.
What happens when you get mud on your tyres?
Agree? Oh yes... in what world of physics is this?
It's simple, in China they woukd sell at least 10 million of it.
Why feature something you've never seen??? WOT
I can tell you this I have ordered this pikaboost in November 2023 and still have not received it make excuses logistics and customs you are in for a long wait and on their website that shows they sold 108 4 months plus and I think I'm getting jipped out of a battery pack they give startups a bad name
My apologies, my OWN legs like a sucker!
What the price in India..?
Available in India..?
It's not released or produced yet, only announced.
300 bucks for only 20 miles isn't good. For that price I can get another ebike battery for twice the range.
Yes but battery, special brakes for ebike, wheel with motor - count how much in total
I don't have an ebike, don't want one & love my current bike. I could use this on long days or hilly rides or put it on the teens' bike for a family trip. The Boost 2 comes out 9/2024.
Cost ?
There's two options on their Indiegogo page, a $337 option and a $407 option.
I was thinking this product sounds to good to be true and than on the end of the video I see it’s a kickstarters scam That makes sense
Stfu club en
This is madness - anyone thinking about an ebike get one trust me they are awesome but get a mid drive and spend at least £2,500 (hardtail entry point) its worth it dont waste your money on gadgets like this they will just disappoint you
The braking sound sketch on bumps what if it always thinks your braking…
Great point, I never even thought of that. I’m hoping to get my hands on a unit to review so I can find out. Thanks for the comment!
No one asked
@@mendicantbias5211 your mom did?
ok. all we know is there is this device. what we would really like to know is why cant they let say have several cyclist in the tens, to try . then hopefully these cyclist like yourself give it a try and comment on youtube.
When I reached out to them they said because the product isn't ready yet. I looked at their Indiegogo website and Livall says that they will start shipping out in July. So I'm going to reach back out to them then and see if I can get my hands on one to review to let everyone know if the PikaBoost is any good or not. Thank you for the comment!
Look at the Velo-Solex from France... the Roll will work,exept in heavy Rain, but who uses a Bike than
an empty plastic bottle attached to your bike making motorcycle noises is gonna propel your bike better than the peek-a-boost ;)
That thing would have to be pressing down on your tire so hard to actually apply enough Force to propel you forward. And just the name. This is a total scam.
Its good for exercise. Just like another cyclist pushing you from behind when you needed help.
I am very suspicious about this product. I wouldn't invest until I saw examples of it working
@@jamesgowing3856 I’m suspicious as well. I’ve been trying to my hands in one to review and crickets so far. I’m going to try one more time and see if it’s legit or vaporware
@@BikeHombre you won't find one as they are still seeking preorders at discount price.
Not available Nonsense.
It's definitely coming off as vaporware at this point. I'm on a list to review it when/if it comes out, but I'm not holding my breath...
This company is a scam company. I would recommend waiting until it’s on the shelves. I have waited 6 months for delivery and just chalked it up to a scam.
The wait on this is getting ridiculous. I hope that if they are a scam then you can get your money back.
I'm not counting on getting it back. It was one of those gambles in life. I do try to warn others from making it though. @@BikeHombre
sounds like a scam to me
It probably is
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A moins de 50 euros sur leur site, j'en doute fortement.... Fake...
Fake
garbage don't waste you money into this guys.
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This is pure nonsense.
🤣You folks don't think outside the 'box' do you?
@@BigWaveDav1 This one is nonsense not all of them this one. You buy one then do a video showing it working an I will change my mind. Not a promotional video but an actual real world working one.
@@Best-mx2of I'm thinking of using it NOT 'as designed', but carry on, Sir.
You don't know me, but are quick to decide. We'll see...I could be quite mistaken on this unit's capabilities. It wouldn't be the first time,nor the last.
@@BigWaveDav1 You also do not know me but were quick to decide also. The word hypocrite comes to mind but I will keep it there. Also you expect me to imagine all the various out of the box ways you might use a motor designed to make contact with and power a bike wheel. None of them justifies that this is nonsense. How much force can this produce to power the weight of the bike and the rider as well. There is a certain amount of downward force it will have to put on the back wheel to make it spin. Just look at the other electric bikes both the batteries and the motor has to be able to move the bike and rider. So since you seem so invested again do a video on it and I will change my mind.
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