Why do Golf Professionals play blades?
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A blade is like a good friend who tells you the truth to make you a better person/golfer
You are correct on all the advantages of bladed irons. All my life I've used Blades. From my first Wilson, Sam Snead Pro staff Blades at 6, to now were I have Titleist ZM Forged, and Wilson Andy Bean Pro staff blades. I Get better and better on my Iron Game. I improve greatly when I'm forced to make the difficult shots or get out of bad lies. My blades have never let me down, i will never change out my blades.
This is right on. For years I have been mucking about with cavity backs. Picked up a set of older forged irons at a thrift store just because they looked nice and price was 2 bucks per iron. Tried a few shots with them and realize what I had been missing. And they're making me a better golfer - rapidly. I really feel and see that.
thank you mate. just bought a set of Mizuno and exactly feel what you talked about. Great feedback, great backspin, and great divot. I just realised that my swing was all based on blades but I have been playing cavity back for years!!
I play an ancient and beautiful set MacGregor 1025m' blades Very soft. I have a good swing but can only play 9 holes a week because of time constraints. There is no way I would want to hit a cavity back because the blades are so revealing and instructive. They make me a better player because of their real time feedback. They are a true friend that tells me the truth and I appreciate that. My swing is better for it. Steve from Ohio.
Such a great speaker, and hitter of blades!
Amazing explanation,one of the most technical that i ve heard,thank you mate.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The only really useful video I found on that topic. And I have searched for ages.
Thanks a lot.
I’ve been saying this for years to my golf buddies!
Wonderful video and thank you. I recently got some used blades Titleist 710mb and I absolutely love them. I’m a 17 handicap and it’s making my game better for all these reasons. I thought maybe I wasn’t “supposed” to play blades due to my handicap, but this video made it even more clear that it was a good decision to switch. Thank you.
Very very interesting indeed - I am approaching single digit handicap consistently and a few of the better players have recommended that i might enjoy playing with blades. I appreciate your taking the time to explain this so well.
Great info! I finally got to view this one Jonathan. It arrived almost 2 weeks ago! Glad I did this evening. Good info! Thanks.
Another curious golf topic demystified. Thank you JT!!
I'd recommend everyone starts with blades. It makes u concentrate on hitting the middle and you'll naturally become a good ball striker. I had the same set of blades back in the day. Been a single handicapper for years.
Agree with you.. started with them and loved them
I’ve just moved to blades and I bloody love them. I got fitted for p790s and hated them. Went out and brought a second hand set of 2015 cobra blades and hit them better.
really interesting comment about brain and feedback ... that may explain this constant yin/yang of switching from blades wanting forgiveness, but then witnessing your game deteriorate
Might be the best explanation on blade irons
I have a set of Mazuno irons love them of course but only knew about the sensory feedback. Flight consistency and minimal divot were understood immediately. I would add the intense satisfaction when struck properly. You instantly feel like a pro even if you aren’t breaking 80!
Amen!
Yep! I'm old and as a beginner in the 1960's our hands stung on off center hits - so you learned not to do that! Also, they weren't called blades, they were just clubs, that's all there was! Anything that looked different were viewed as helper clubs like the early Hogan radial irons etc.
It’s like the equivalent of hitting the sweet spot with a wood bat.
Not as good as Tartelest
Bravo? I’ve realized this, but never heard it explained this well.
Very informative. Thanks!
Cavity backs lie to you,
Blades are your honest friends!
Thanks for the insight, I just got some T100's, and was having some reservations, but I too learned with blades in the 1970s and have missed the smaller blade and instant feedback, so here we go!
I try blade today and absolutely love it
Many very good points. Thank you.
Aw yeah! I'm learning on some ben hogan apex blades right now! Woot woot!!
i got a set of blades from my grandfather after he retired because of parkinsons. oh man they are brutal when new xd
Just gained a new sub! I love your content. The lessons are short and informative which is perfect for an ADHDer like myself lol. Btw, what blades do you use???
I got fitted for the new Stealth irons and i have to say they are too long now and the distances are 20 yds between clubs...I was using the Titleist 731 pm irons and they were much more accurate..10yds between clubs and stick to the greens.so i use the 7-pw blades and the 3-6 stealth's to get more distance...what a great blade phil designed...(O:
You should narrate books 😂 that voice is amazing
So how about forged wedges for the 100 yd and in game for the joy of forged feel and control where center strikes have higher likelihood on partial and greenside shots... and where the average player hits most of their shots... hybrids for 3-5 iron spots and a more forgiving head for 6-9...(?) that's what I have done and am finding it is an excellent solution for the 1-2 round per week (summer in Canada) player. excellent video and thoughtfully explained.
if you find yourself constantly in the bunker you should not get forged wedges because it'll wear out quicker
i'm a high handicap and just bought myself 620mb titleist blades and absolutely love them. I hit better, feel great and handi is starting to drop. So don't let anyone tells you that blades are for low handi or scratch players only. Try them and you will never come back to cavity.
I started playing Mizuno blades last year as a 10 handicap. I never found them difficult to hit. I didn't lose any distance and I love the look and feel. My handicap came down three more strokes over the summer. Since then I've found that I strike the ball far better than I ever did. I've gained a lot of distance from good strike and good launch conditions. I am a far more skilled golfer and I'm aiming at low single digits this year. I think all the videos that suggest only the best ball strikers in the word can play blades or that blades will hurt and punish you are not serving us well. I've found none of those things to be true.
Well done.
And they look GREAT!!!
this is a great video. I just got some old Cobra Baffler Blades and LOVE THEM
I started with game improvement irons and they stunk! Despite loads of practice my ball striking didn't improve. I moved to player cavity backs at 17 hdcp and my hdcp fell to 12 quickly. I then went to blades and lowered my hdcp to 9.8 at present, also very quickly. With the game improvement irons I couldn't tell where the heck on the club face I was striking with my current blades I know instantly exactly how I struck it. I also have not seen the forgiveness issues everyone talks about. Refreshing to hear a pro with this view for a change.
Agreed mate when i first started had callaway razor x. Couldnt even get below 100 after 6 months. When through the second hand bin at the golf shop pieced together a set of wilson staff and cleveland blades and never looked back. Made me learn to strike the ball better and to be honest I found the lack of forgiveness negligible.
Thanks for making your book available so inexpensively. May I recommend publishing it in an eReader format as well?
Pro’s are the first ones to adopt new technology if it improves their performance. E.g. 460cc Drivers, Pro V1s, mallet putters, hybrids, driving irons. It says a lot about blades that they are still in the bags of 11 of 20 in the OWGR. I think most golfers can easily play them in 6-pw. Most experts agree that the difference in forgiveness between blade and cavity back is negligible and not worth the loss of feedback.
really good point, never thought about it in quite that way, they game anything that helps, yet many still game blades as they see it as an advantage, not a vanity thing, that said, Rickie Fowler didn't game those copper micro blades for long...
I learned golf at the age of 17 and started with blades. I have never played with anything else and my handicap is right around 6 now. I still play with some Hogan Apex 2 blades and some Hogan metal woods from the original Hogan company. When they went out of business and Calloway purchased them, I got about 10 sets on sale for about 200 bucks a set. I have never needed to use them but they are all blades except the hybrid set I purchased out of curiosity. I find blades look better to me and it did take a while to learn how to hit them in the center consistently but I love them and will never use anything else. I had a pro hit my clubs and he was astonished at how great they feel even if they are older. I have regripped them every season and reshafted them once.
Yup, once you find what you like...
-- I recall watching friends play well with the first Ping Eye 2s; the cavity back rage. Easy to hit the long irons and they were well built, but I always felt a little more robotic with them and less like a golfer... I returned to forged, and never looked back.
10 sets, not used ???? Want to sell a set? 😁
@@deadlymantis4210 my wife would love that. But I can't seem to let any of them go.
Kevin in the USA if that point ever does arrive, I'd be happy to swap details and take a set off your hands. Thanks for the reply
bravo! liked, subscribed, and hit the bell. great info, while still very entertaining. do you have a video on finding the correct length and lie. i once had a new set of hogan apex 2's bent flatter at address and the result was horrendous (had them bent back to standard).
I first got blades when I was 22. I had never broken par until I hit some TP 11’s then as soon as bought them shot -4 and -2 in comps. I remember the feel was unbelievable. However i could only hit 7 iron 150 or even less. I changed them a few years later because the lack of distance compared to cavity backs was massive. I was sick of hitting 7 iron where my mates were 9 irons.
New generation irons will give you the best of both worlds, try the Apex irons from Callaway or the Taylor Made P790 for example.
Great info! I have and always will play blades. Since 16 years old I've never been higher than a 4 handicap. I was a mini-tour player, and I went to the PGA TOUR qualifying school once. Everything he said is true, plus the fact that you can work the ball much better with blades. If you want to improve, get blades and takes lessons.
I don’t play blades but I’ve noticed I always swing with better tempo when I’m hitting a blade on the range. When I’m struggling with my irons I just invision that I’m swinging a blade and it usually helps
As a blade owner i am happy for this affirmation haha. I think its not that hard to hit the centre actually. I think its hard to hit the ball but when you are hitting the ball its easy to put the club head where you want it to be
Interesting, I hover around a 12 handicap, its been higher and its been lower, and i do seem to play as well if not slightly better with a smaller headed clubs, though I've never played with pure blades, but have played with a lot of the Mizuno MP range over the years, some are more forgiving than others, but they are all forged, fairly small headed, traditional lofted, thin top line irons. I came here to out of interest, i was wondering if i should get an old set of MP32,or MP33 or something just for summer half set 9 hole fun. I once played with a set of Bridgestone j36 blades that were sweeeeet, I'm always on the lookout for them.
PS - reason 4 - Vanity ; )
I started playing this past august. I was originally using improvement irons I bought used at a second hand store. They are nice and weighty which helped me get a better feel for tempo, but every time I hit the ball and had a horrible shot I could never tell why it was bad. So I’d just line back up and do the same mistake without any feedback on how to fix it. I saw a set of Wilson tour blade FG-17s on marketplace for $100, came with 3-pw, and decided to buy them. They looked like they had been used one season and stored away for the past 40 years. I immediately started feeling how I was hitting the ball every time I hit. Toe and heel strikes were immediately recognizable and, more importantly, distinguishable from one another. Same goes for shots that were too high or low. And hitting a pure shot with a forged blade is unlike anything else. If you hit one perfect it’ll make you want to keep hitting to recreate that feeling. I understood the reason why some people say start with blades, but I never REALLY understood until I did it myself. I definitely recommend anyone starting out or looking to improve to try blades if you haven’t yet. Find an old set (or even just one or two clubs) of forged blades for cheap and practice with them. Even if you don’t use them for regular use, try them out and see how you do. They will immediately start improving your game because you’ll start actually being able to feel what you’re doing right and wrong.
I just did the same also with a set of FG17 and they are SWEET!
👍 thanks
you channel is excellent ! wish i can go there and get a lesson from you.. btw .. you remind me of Walter White of Breaking Bad... your Famous ! keep up the great work
0:06 what’s the advantage of playing with golf club?
Last time when I tried play without a golf club, I got kick out of golf course
😂
Because soft metal is good for the hard ball they play, and blades are easier to bend and adjust for specific course conditions they play.
right now I have Callaway xr steal head pros, but been hitting my buddies Mizuno MP20 and I may hit them shorter ( not by much ) but they feel so much better even when I miss hit them and I havent had any chunky shots like I do with my own clubs, and even with the 4i I can hit it better than my 4 hybrid and the MP20s are like 5 years older than mine, I may buy the MP20s off off my friend if I can get them for a good price he just got new TM P770s
I picked up a set of blades as an 8.5. On my first day out on the range I noticed how poor my mishits were. Zero spin and just fell out of the sky.
This should be required veiwing for every golfer! Blades are the only honest club you can buy. I can tell (without looking) withing 1/8" where I hit it. Honest in every way. Honest loft. Flight characteristics, distance control, total dispersion etc. I switched from 'game improvement irons' at 20 handicap. I went to the range 3 times a week for 3 months to learn how to an accurate striker. With no other help I shot 8 over. As I became more confident with my blades I've lowered that to play off 6. 'Game improvement irons' should be called 'Distance improvement irons'. They're mislabeled clubs. A 28* 7 iron is really a 5 iron. GII are wildly inconsistent with yardages and left me bewildered after flying the green on on a few occasions. Getting a ball back in play from the thIck rough is easier with a smaller head (less grass to chop through). The marketing wank from most of the big companies is strong. They boast tech improvements to help you in so many ways. Help yourself, pick up a set of used blades and see what it's like to pure a ball. The sound, feel and flight of a pure blade strike is unmatched!
My final word: Many golfers are building combo sets with CB irons in the 6 and up. I caution people to try blades 1st. I have blades from 3 to PW, and 3 Vokey wedges (also blades). The feeling is unmatched. I can't imagine the day that I won't play blades.
Have you tried Hickory?
Most golfers don’t hit the sweet spot often enough as it is, so are hardly gonna play better with blades. Not a huge percentage of tour pros carry a full set of true blades so why should a recreational golfer? Golfers who fat and thin most of their iron shots but „prefer the feel of a blade“ are talking crap. Anyone who can realistically judge their own game and isn’t hitting the sweet spot regularly should not be going anywhere near a blade!!
Your Combo statement is also a little strange. Rory, Rahm don’t even have Full Blades in their Long irons. Brooks Koepka is Playing Mizuno jpx919 Tour and these are some of the worlds best ball strikers.
The best way to buy clubs is to try a bunch of different ones, preferably outdoors and with decent range balls and find the best one in your price range or wait 6-12 months and try and get a second hand set of the more expensive model. If blades work best for you, that’s fine. 6 is a reasonable handicap but suggesting to some stranger that they should buy a Second hand set of blades is reckless. They could love them (2% chance) resell them (60% chance) or give up (38%) this already very difficult game.
@@jdefc who cares what tour pros do or use? You have more in common with an astronaut than a tour pro. No I've never tried hickory, I bet you haven't either. If you're too afraid or too brainwashed by the boogeyman stories of big bad blades, that's your choice. To condemn me for my advice is your prerogative, but in doing so you look like a nanny. I stand by my assertion that cheap used blades are great instructors. Without looking, the feedback is definitive and immediate.
Swinging a garden spade sized club will ensure contact but never a sweetspot will be realized! The sweetspot on all clubs is precisely the same size, blades just don't waste all that useless real estate.
You do you, those of us that are adventurous and want to feel the greatest feeling in golf will swing blades and relish the sound, feel and precision flight that they bring. Good luck with the shovels.
@@BruceBusby I’ve had blades but would never go back, too much hard work compared to what else is on offer...but maybe i am not a traditionalist, pure striker like you. I suppose you use a an old TaylorMade TP metalwood too. You keep giving out the blades to your beginner fiends... I’ll be advising something that will get them pin high more easily and more often.
@@jdefc and that right there is the reason that the average handicap hasn't dropped and has actually risen since the 70s! If you're going to be a golfer, be a golfer. There's no magic pill, no engineering breakthrough and certainly no marketing wank that has solved the challenge of crap golf swings! If people want to golf like hacks, bash their way to high scores and injury, there's plenty of ways to do it and plenty of people lined up to take their money. The marketing department promises long, straighter, better, faster and more accurate with this year's club that's miles better than last year's crap. The instructors promise a "magic move" that'll add 20 yards, go straighter and score lower. All bullshit! Take lessons from someone that doesn't promise miracles, put in the practice and put some clubs in hour hands that aren't full of shit and don't reward shit swings. Or... don't. Continue as has been the norm. Buy distance improvment irons, accept a normal score of 100-110 per round, and an occasional 95 to feed your ego. Distance improvement irons are the golf equivalent to the husbands answer when the wife asks 'if she looks fat in these jeans'. If she wanted the truth, she'd ask... nobody, she knows she's got a fat ass!
I'll encourage beginners to use whatever they like but when they start shooting in the 90's and want to focus and be a true golfer (as opposed to someone who owns and occasionally uses golf clubs)... I'll put a blade in their hands. The minute they pure the 1st shot they'll know what it feels to be a golfer. Then they can put in the work to be worthy of being considered one!
Play a Combination set.
4,5,6,&7 in Cavity backs, 8,9,&PW in Blades
5-PW and two hybrids?
I play with my MP 33 since 20 years and i still loving these clubs but now i am 62 it's started to be harder for me to get distance ..... ;(
I'm not a low handicap player. But I dont mishit balls either. I shoot 83-87. But what he said about control and predictability on distance has me very curious. I feel a lot of my extra strokes come from being too short or long. Causing me to pitch when I should be putting. Thx
64% of the top 100 PGA players play with Cavity backs and an additional 14% have one or two cavity backs. 🤔
And Steel shafts used almost exclusively.
Beginner who started 5 months ago with a set of blades. Ben Hogan Round Soles. Friends trying to get me to switch to cavity backs for the "forgiveness". I can't hit them for anything. Meanwhile my consistency with blades is steadily improving. And nothing matches absolutely creaming one with a 4 iron blade.
If you were 12 playing Hogan Apex's... just a guess, but you've got to be south of 50... born in '74? Forged are the only clubs for me. The best I may've ever felt (but didn't buy) were Taylormades from 2015 or so. I forget which model, but they were the right combination of stiffness, feel, and especially softness in the face-- just soft enough to reward me with a great sensation after a good strike. Not quite as much workability as my Wilsons from the 80's, lol, but preferable nonetheless.
I started with Wilson in the 80s. My father's club. Then got a set of Mizuno (Graduates) now I play Mizuno MP 32. The best club I've ever felt. Had to have them refinished a couple years back.
I still take my Staff tour blades (from my college days in the late 70's) out for a spin now and then. The marvelously heavy feel make my swing more fluid and nothing looks slicker in the bag than those tiny shiny heads!
And most started out playing blades, I hate hearing People say don’t play blades.
I play the apex pro 19, best iron Callaway has produced lately.
TCB are very good as well.
I can always feel it it when I toe the ball with my 1 iron... how you ask?... the skin on my hands gets torn to shreds (I hate gloves)
the difference is ... how many average golfers work on ball striking effectively. If you don't practice... don't buy blades.
Great video! Makes me want to trade in my Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons for a set of blades! Would golf fitters let me try blades to see if I like them or not?
Most certainly
Blades demand more of you and i feel in the long run it'll make one a better golfer
I am a 14 handicap not because of my irons that are apex pro Callaway forged irons but because of putting technique,most of my golf pals play improvement irons and i can t stand these,i find them to thick,i went for a fitting for some mizuno hot metal pros irons that are cast and hated the feel and the difference of yardage is about 10 to 15 yards ,so it is not worth it.I will stay with my forged and work on my putting.
Correction. They are NOT more difficult to hit out of the center, maybe it is actually easier. They just don’t perform as well off center.
I stand corrected 👍
Most pros opt for hybrids/utility clubs in place of long irons. These elite players also use a 460cc driver. Give them a persimmon driver and balata ball and see how well they perform.
I agree 100% blades will make you a better golfer, but you'll need to put in some practice. I played mizuno perifial irons for 12 months. I felt like I was slapping the ball. A blades strike on the golf ball is totally different.
I still don't understand why they won't allow me to tee off from the fringe........😁
Blades don't lie to you...
More pga player use cavity backs than blades. Look it up
I’m a 12 HCappers. Am I good enough to play blades?
Yes you are:)
What is a blade golf club
Always used blades. I don’t need forgiveness in golf. Need it in everything else in my life 😜. When u hit it properly there is no better feeling
I'm struggling with my 620 cb's. About to throw them away. All of a sudden can't hit them.
Lovely clubs but I would bend them 2 deg strong to help me hit my yardages without having to slam them.
Kinda Sounds like Robin Leach giving golfing wisdom. 🤣
they don't
Blades let you know exactly where on the face you have hit, and gives consistent yardage, you are not going to get one that goes 10 yards farther out of nowhere like some game improvement irons.
I agree
Golf is supposed to be hard. Forgiving clubs are a bane to the entire concept of the game.
Bobby Jones was asked once his opinion of Jack Nichlaus. He simply replied "he plays a game that I am unfamiliar with".
Apply that sentiment to today's clubs by ten fold!
I think the game improvement clubs are overrated. Some of my friends have moved from blades to game improvements and their scores are worse along with their play, but they insist that they are playing better, probably because of the strong lofts allow them to hit their 7 irons higher, less spin and longer. (not closer to the hole)
But only 20% PGA golfer using blade, 16% (cavity back + blade ) and 60% of PGA golfer using cavity back ..
Nope.
I can’t watch a video of a man talking about blades while hitting game improvement irons 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I know, what’s up with that? Just doesn’t seem right!
This guy talks so slow that I actually had to check to make sure my playback speed wasnt turned down
Those aren't blades, and every company used to make blades because that's all there made...
Yeah, but how does Jesse Pinkman feel about blades...
I mean this vid instantly loses so much credibility since there's not a single blade in the thumbnail
I like what he has to say but that club he's hitting during the first part of the video is not a blade.