The WEIRD Reason Back To The Future Fired Marty McFly
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Back To The Future is one of the most talked about movies in film history, but most people don’t know that the first Marty McFly is not the one that made it screens. These movies are still being screened across the world to this very day and are still huge talking points for people that love the medium. But Before Back to the Future 2 was even a thought, there was some serious casting changes happening on set. The same goes for another major character who didn’t make it past the first movie. Marty McFly was fired from Back to the Future and the other character walked away from the franchise.
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Is there a franchise that you’d want to see rebooted or get a new entry?
Big shoutout to Jess Dixon for the minimalist Marty poster!
Family ties should come back lol.
No
No. I want old franchises to be dearly remembered, even if they didn't end as we would like. Let the new franchises take the stage
Star Wars episodes from VII - IX, and a new Indiana Jones Movie. Plus Netflix Defenders on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D style
I want hoodwinked to be reanimated
Imagine filming an entire movie as the lead character only for the studio to spend millions replacing you and reshooting everything... that's gotta hurt
when they could of just given him the pay bump and would of the cost the studio much less with the law suit included.
Regő Józsa Didn’t film the entire movie. Not even close to it.
@@thefonzkiss The film was about 75% complete when they recast Marty.
They didn't reshoot the scenes were Marty is off screen. And they used Stoltz footage in at least 5 scenes
@@RobizGaming2024 They're talking about Eric Stoltz not Crispin Glover.
I just can't imagine anyone as Marty but Michael J. Fox
I Just can't imagine Some Guy as Marty without a Mustache J. Fox
Same dude
Dude you are everywhere
Imagine Marty, but played by Al Pacino instead of Michael.
Everywhere I go, I see your face
Is no one else completely astonished by Michael doing 22 hours of work everyday for 3 months?? That's insane!! That's beyond impressive..
Ikr
I wonder if that played any role in his developing parkinsons disease ?
It's insane. How did he function?
@@justanf3835 Who knows? I reckon stress and sleep fatigue probably didn't help that's for sure but whether it was a root cause can't be confirmed
@@an.d.m.a He probably didn't on some days
Crispin Glover’s departure was so sad for me, imagine how different the stories would be if George Mcfly was more involved in the last two parts.
Ye
F him the hypocrite! He's unhappy with the original ending cause it portrayed money equals happiness and then refuses to do the next movie and so on because he isn't getting as much happiness (ie. Money) as MJF or Biff when one was the literal lead and front runner and the other the main protagonist. His part was so important that he could have been written out of the second and he was in the third.
@@scotthustus8337 he deserves to be paid for his work.
@@RusticRonnie his work was a supporting actor.
He was asking to be paid as much as the main protagonist of the film.
That's like Neville Longbottom from Harry Potter asking to be paid the same as the actor who played Voldemort.
I think the studio messed up too though, both parties are at fault, the studio shouldn't of gone to those lengths to make a likeness of him.
But the hypocrisy of being upset at the first movies message, then asking for more money for the second movie, is just ridiculous.
@@rezarfar exactly! Money bad, now give me more money than the leads cause I deserve it.
It's funny how so many people thought the movie was gonna be a flop, and now it's this huge classic.
Yeah people don’t talk about that much but there was widespread belief both internally and outwardly that the original BTF was not going to make waves and that it was going to end up costing the studio a large amount of cash. Strange to see it’s place in pop culture today. I obviously didn’t live through the 80s but that decade in film was so interesting.
I know, it's strange how a family movie about a mother unknowingly trying to sleep with her teenage son was predicted to be a stinker, instead of an instant classic! 🤩
@@trinaq lol, how the turntables amiright
Thats generally how it works with just about everything that becomes this popular lol
@@jacobnutt151 yeah, when Stan Lee showed his editor Spiderman the first time, he said it was dumb and no one would buy it, and now.....
I've never been so glad that Disney didn't get the movie. Think about it. With this era of remakes that's going on with them, this movie would've been remade long ago by them.
If Disney had made the movie Marty would've been 12 years old and the time machine would've been a scooter.
Never say never. Give it a few more years and I guarantee this film series will be remade. The potential revenue from fans and haters alike is just to great.
I'm sure Disney will own the rights to this franchise eventually
disney should tackle a time travel film.
@@Mirach84 Lol probably
MJF is so underrated. He played TWO of the most iconic characters to come out of the 1980s. His comedic timing is impeccable
He is not underrated
He retired film industry 1998 or smnthing cus he is suffering from parkinson’s
He is a cultural icon. Nobody underrates him...
@@navj9850 no he semi retired in 2000 and retired and 2020.
Definitely not underrated
He almost got the role of tobry's Spider-Man
I always thought the ending message of back to the future was he gave his father more self confidence back in the day which led to better life choices which led to better life success.
Do his “better life choices” include hiring the guy that tried to rape his wife to wax his cars?
@@justmeeagainn it was his way of saying fuck you biff. if you could hire the person who bullied you in high school to pretty much be your slave would you do it? most people would
I agree, I felt like that was message too. I can see what Glover was saying, but I disagree with what he said about. I felt like, they only seemed like they didn’t have money in the beginning, because they were always having to give it to Biff and also since Lorraine had a brother in jail, she could have possibly been helping to give to him, for attorneys fees, and anything else for legal purposes, and since none of them at the time had no confidence, they couldn’t say no to Biff or her brother 🤷🏻♀️
To me the message wasn't that money leads to happiness. It's that happiness in this case led to money as George Mcfly learned to have a backbone and go after his dreams rather than just take the easy route and back down.
Ya, it feels like he just saw it wrong, it's not like they magically came into money. It was that his character arc of overcoming his fear and standing up to his bully allowed him to have the courage to write and publish his book.
If there was one thing I'd change though it's how BIff is portrayed after. I feel what lacks is how Biff is bullied by the Father in a sense and how sub-servant he comes off towards him. It's like sure, he decked Biff and got the girl in the end but having Biff still be in their life in such a manner does feel a bit mean-spirited.
Like if I could rewrite it, they could of had Biff be a better person and then in part 2 he realizes that Marty had access to a time machine and the person he saw in the past was the same person in the present since he's now seeing this person in the future and it would of boiled his blood to the point where he would want to change things where Marty ruined his life. That would of offered more meaning towards Biff's actions rather than him just being a bad person.
@@airget The whole Biff being their handyman was pretty awkward it had the feel good part of now the bully is the servant but it's just weird they would of hired him considering he tried to rape Lorraine.
True, but money does buy happiness in the real world
True, you do need a job to get by in this world, but the point is that George did what he loved and managed to become very successful.
I think if you really watch it again, it's not that he's a handyman, he works detailing cars.
He probably enjoys the job more, working in classic cars like he did as a teen, as opposed to whatever office job he got with George so he could bully him into doing his work.
Besides, it's not like George is cheating him. And his demeanor is much nicer too. He's probably a better man at the end of all of this as well.
They also changed the actress who played Marty's girlfriend in the sequels.
Bruh I know something was off about her in the third film.
The replacement actress (Elisabeth Shue) ended up having a better acting career than original actress Claudia Wells, who retired early to be with her mother, who was diagnosed with cancer. Not to say that her life since then hasn't been noteworthy. She manages a clothing store she founded in the '90s (Armani Wells), which she still manages, and she has returned to acting in smaller projects. She even got to reprise her role as Jennifer in the 2011 _Back to the Future_ video game.
Gucci Mane noooo they replaced her with Elizabeth shue for the 2nd and 3rd, not just the 3rd. Shue brought more star power to the film and was a better actress then the monotone first one, however she’s really annoying in the 2nd and 3rd haha
They also changed his dad.
@@SouthernSkeptic - Half the video is about that part. ;)
Crispin said it wasnt just stealing his likeness. He said he would have been happy with a recast like they did marty's gf. But instead of doing that they used his face out of spite.
3:45 - "Fox says he got 2 hours of sleep per night on average"... Me "I wonder what the health effects of that would be?"...2 seconds later... "Oh yeah, not good."
The fact that it's 6 am and I haven't slept and it took me seconds to process your comment... makes it accurate
Honestly that explains why Michael J Fox always looks so tired in the non-action scenes.
yeah he was always sighing like he was tired, always looked too calm
Well, it ended up making sense due the situations he went through all the story
But he still played it well
My general impression of MJ Fox in those days were that he overworked himself. He was literally everywhere for some 8 years. Though his current illness got nuthin doing with it directly, it appears he's used up life's juices a bit too quick.
Yet, he brought fun to millions of people, and wishing him all the best
hes tired because the actor micheal j fox had a very bad disease and thats why he dousent act anymore
Two hours of sleep a night? No wonder Marty seems so manic.
Sleep deprivation + lots of coffee. Yeah. And it probably helped his performance. Anyone in Marty's situation would be acting pretty manic.
@@spacecase8888 yeah... *Coffee* ..sniffffff
but he surely is glad he did it; considering the sad state he is in right now, you better do those things while you are young and can
Maybe that's where they got idea for the Family Ties where Alex P. Keaton is on speed. That was my favorite episode. 🤣
@@Tolohtony My favorite is when is friend dies in a car accident and he goes to a therapist because of survivor's guilt.
"But money doesn't buy happiness!"
*Quits because he wasn't getting enough money*
He didn't quit, he just denied the role. It was the studio who wanted him to come back.
He did not care about the message itself. Just the fact that the message was contradicted in the movie’s climax.
@@m3mario Was it? Seemed more to me like the money and success was merely an afterthought. A byproduct of their happiness.
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 it felt to me the real message was that since they had pride and self respect of themselves they were more successful. he stood up to his high school bully and then later stood up for himself and what he wanted.. and she fell in love with him for the right reasons and not because she was treating him for injuries. The money and Success was there because they valued themselves more and didn't settle and were no longer afraid to chase their dreams.
@@moriahmars1462 That's the fucking definition of quitting, lol
If Crispin thought the take-home message was "Money Buys Happiness", then he clearly wasn't paying proper attention. One of the chief credos of the film is stated 3 times-"If you set your mind to it, you can accomplish anything!" The family isn't happy *because* they're "rich". They're happy because they're all self-confident. The money is just a nice little by-product of that. Never forget that, despite the improvement in their financial situation, they still live in Lyons Park, instead of the much richer area that gets established in the later films.
Seriously, Crispin Glover was just the actor, he didn't write the script.
They went to great lengths to disguise someone else as George McFly, but they simply recast Marty's girlfriend without even pretending to make them look similar.
@@gokutoriyama3179 Not even the writers cared, as they left her unconscious in an alley for a large part of the second movie.
@@jeffc5974 Why should this be an issue? In the Movie Time she was there for only few hourd
@@luan4594 It really shouldn't be an issue. Recasting is done all the time, and is easy for the audience to suspend disbelief for something so minor. So why not do the same for the father though? In a way, the director or producers made it an issue by going out of their way to try to cover it up.
@@jeffc5974 what should she have done then? She was unconscious and then Doc and Marty traveled to 1955 to fix the timeline and left her in 1985 i don’t see the problem
Marty's gf wasn't even in the film 10 minutes... i didn't even notice when she was replaced.
Yes, method acting got us Heath Ledger's Joker, but it also got us Jared Leto's Joker.
@Vance Jacobs Yeah, from what I've heard Leto took things way too far. Though the "on-set psychologist" angle was only noteworthy because they could tie it to Harley Quinn's original profession. Most productions have one.
BUUUUT, it also got us Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, so everything is alright now.
It's dependent on how the actor perceives the role. Method acting will always increase the quality of the performance, but it won't do anything to effect the portrayal.
Method acting the Joker also killed Heath Ledger, so...
@@Nobody1707 No idea why you'd spread something so untrue. Heath Ledger died from a combination of prescription drugs he had gotten from two different doctors who didn't know about what the other had given him. It was a complete accidental overdose, and had nothing to do with his mental state or his method acting
The stress taken in Michael J Fox during intense shooting with 2 hours of sleep? Might have made the Parkinson’s worse
Nice
He didn’t have Parkinson’s yet at that time. The stress of the filming schedule might have helped instigate it.
@@StoryMing He was also a chain smoker. So much so they had to put makeup on his fingers while shooting his sitcom to cover up the nicotine stains. (edit: spelling)
@@Grifter010 weird fact. Parkinson’s is about the only disease smoking has been shown to prevent
@@Grifter010 I do know that he was a chain smoker, but may I ask where you got that specific source of information from? I also read somewhere that they even created a stand-up ashtray for him to be able to light up between takes in back to the future.
5:34 she is staring into my soul. It’s scary
Exactly I thought I was the only one
That's not a she. That's Michael J. Fox.
@@ethanbanta4714 It was 2015. By then, MJF could be demanding that, "IT'S MA'AM!"
man that is scary
This was the comment I was looking for I’m not the only one
That "money buys happiness" take is a but of a stretch. I always saw that ending as them being happier because George became more self confident and that resulted in them earning more money.
R3 that's the way the ending always read to me.
Same
I'd say, an actors face, is his/her trademark. So he was right imo.
Absolutely. There are other aspects to this where I think Glover's ego and self importance got in the way (Bob Gale's too) but in the case of his image, he was 100% correct. Nobody should be allowed to use your image without your permission, whether you are an actor or not.
depend on what contract they sign... star war for example... Lucas own their likeness for selling toy.. ever your death...
Back to the Future is such a huge classic. It's gold.There's various reasons for that, but no doubt Michael J Fox and Crispin Glover are the main reason. Both performances were stellar.
Hey and the Doc. Come on now; I love that guy.
For part II George: made a face cast, used old footage, hung the guy upside down. Part II Jennifer : 👀
At least they didnt steal her face, plus Claudia had to step down.
Universal went straight up psycho, taking someone’s face and wearing it too?! I don’t blame Glover, I’m glad he sued and won, cause that shit ain’t right.
I knew part 2 George looked unsettling! That ain't right.
You should see what deepfakes are like nowadays, it's scary
@@coolfred9083 "deepfakea are scary"
"Dame da ne"
@@bananadebilitada6844 what?
Universal is always getting sued for something. George Lucas, James Garner, Lee Majors, Chrispin Glover, Glen Larson. Don Johnson and Kevin Smith almost sued them too. Take a number.
I didn't know that Glover disliked the ending of the first movie and I gotta say I gotta fully disagree on that.
Marty and his family aren't more happy because "money buys happiness" they're more happy because thanks to Marty's effort to change his father from a weakling and spineless dork that no one respect to a confident and badass that finally knows how to stand up for himself against the bully that made him into a pathetic man in the first place.
In other words, the ending shows because of George's change personality he became a better man, a better husband, a better father, a better businessman and best of all he's respected by everyone including Biff, but he also treats Biff with respect because he knows better which also implies that his kindhearted nature or at least human decency never left.
That's the point of the ending.
Money doesn't buy happiness. Happiness buys money.
Perhaps it was the message. You'd have to be really simple to only see the wealth in the ending. Chances are he saw what the movie made and said "I want more." Same thing happened to Terrence Howard in the Iron Man trilogy.
Thinking back on it, it's really ironic that he reportedly saw the ending as money buys happiness and he wasn't happy with what he would have got paid for the sequel.
The part of his original complaint that they didn't tell you about is the fact that the original ending included black servants. They changed it to Biff after Glover complained that it looked racist. Oof
That was an amazing realization
Nice insight, it was a pretty cool ending for a film
5:46 "Casted" is not a word. The past tense of "cast" is still "cast."
George McFly is one of the most interesting characters ever created by an actor. On the page, it's nothing, but Crispin went somewhere else with it. Much to all of our loss, the studio and their pride just couldn't back down. Glad that Glover won his lawsuit.
Well said.
Crispin Glover is younger than Michael J. Fox
@@Laogong1 In what year? 😉
@@KingoftheJuice18 all I know is that there is a out a 2 year difference
@@Laogong1 All I know is that in 1955 they're the same age 😉
Crispin Glover: the first victim of deepfakes;-;
I thought that was Bruce Lee?
He was Patient Zero
Lol
@@Triumph._. Nah, didn't they have to use a mirror trick to put Bruce Lee's face over another actor's body for some shots in Game of Death, since he died before the film was finished?
I would think it was Samuel Horwitz aka Shemp Howard, who died in 1955 with 4 shorts left to film. Curly Joe DeRita was not yet available and it would take time for the studio to decide on Joe Besser and hammer out a deal, so they used similar tricks with stock footage and another actor to hide his absence. It became an industry term to call this kind of thing Fake Shemps.
The Back to the Future trilogy itself vindicates Glover's original complaint. Part 2 teaches Marty the evils of using time travel for financial gain, Part 3 teaches Marty that love is more important than ego and reputation. If they were going to take his advice in the end anyway, why not just admit it and patch things up with Glover. Why lie and give him the shaft?
NinjaMatt2201 Even the original film disproves his claim because George learned to finally stand up for himself and not just take the abuse from Biff
Because Hollywood doesn't have time for sympathy for them time is money.
Meh. Look, the entire ordeal came about because one actor didn't like one aspect of the story being worked on by the people who hired said actor. He was out of line. Full stop. He's the one who made the entire thing blow up the way it did, and the compromises that were forced onto the producers were his fault entirely. Let me stress that point: Things that made the second movie a lesser movie are there because one actor throwing a fit left the producers with their hands tied.
@@Asterra2 oh please Crispin having to be vocal about the script towards the end is why Bob Gale constantly puts so much negatives into him throughout the constant director commentaries he does in the Dvd releases of BTTF. It's a case of one person's ego getting the better of Bob and being so bitter about how Crispin spoke up and made many suggestions his ego couldn't handle that someone that didnt have top billing like MJF had could still speak up and be vocal about his ideas.
And may i add, the fact that Bob Gale used a mould of Crispin's face and have another actor wear that face mould to give the appearance that he is in the movie when in actual fact Bob offered Crispin less than half of the amount Crispin asked for the 2nd movie and Crispin refused understandably so, is the reason Crispin isnt in parts 2 and 3. Bob puts so much shit on Crispin at whichever chance he gets. I love the BTTF movies even part 3 but Bob Gale and his pretentious ego i have no like towards him at all.
poor glover, thought everyone was too dumb to realize the point of the ending was that happiness and confidence lead to financial success, not the other way around, and it was a pretty clear message: if you let people walk all over you out of fear, you will almost certainly be miserable. Then he walks away because they won't pay him as much, making his issues with the ending sound even more absurd. He seemed to have a huge chip on his shoulder for a long time, I hope he is doing better now, but I am kind of afraid to look because hollywood stories that start that way rarely turn out well
This.
The situation with Eric was a result of casting an actor They could live with because they couldnt get the actor they wanted .
For all the criticism of Eric, he was professional and did a serviceable job of playing Marty. However he was a dramatic actor who was not versed in the kind of comedy integral to the film .
As a fan of the film, I have no issue with Stoltz who is a fine actor . He has done fine work in other projects including Caprica.
Watch him in The Butterfly Effort, he took that role to a very dark stage.
I always thought it was funny that George never turned to Loraine and said "Hey how come our son looks exactly like my best friend and your ex from high school?"
Edit, 1 year later: I never thought Id be the type of person to edit in a comment but I think its hilarious how seriously some of you are taking this comment.
I think its because he was only at the school for like a week and I guess they had no pictures of him? I dont know human memory is tricky.
Angie Hel but yet they remember to name him Marty🤔
When you were younger, ever look back at images of your parents and think "wow they have changed". Back from high school, with a guy they only seen once, is a very long time that they have no more comparison to go back to.
Counter that with how they witnessed their child growing up, never really noticing the change as he got older.
They probably thought he became. The designer Calvin klein
It's a fictitious film, an "imitation of life", a metaphor....not a documentary...in any such film you'll find elements of suspended disbelief. Eg. A Delorean that works as a time machine.
Eric Stolz saw the film as a tragedy, in the end McFly returned to a family he did not grow up with.
Yeah, I don't think he was fired because he wasn't funny enough. He saw the role in a completely different light than the producers, and was playing it more serious. I prefer the movie we got, but I would love to see Stolz's darker take on the theme.
That's a good point. Michael J Fox's Marty never really seemed bothered by the fact that he didn't actually know his new 1985 family anymore. They were basically complete strangers to him, but he was happy cause he had a nice truck lol.
@@momentary_ He came back to a family that had improved in every possible way. Of course he was happy, the truck was just a bonus.
"Rick Potion #9" might be as close as we're going to get to that.
@@momentary_ uh. So his dad is no longer a massive loser, getting pushed over by his.......high school bully anymore.
So sad....msuch a tragedy....m
OMG I've never knew that Universal begged Michael J Fox to play Marty Mcfly even they already got an actor and filmed some of it...Probably Michael was destined to be Marty Mcfly
They had wanted Michael from the start. But they couldn’t get him out of doing ‘Family Ties’, which is why they tried using Eric Stoltz at first, and when that just wasn’t working, Michael ended up doing both on an insane schedule of 2 - 5 hrs sleep per night.
Actually they filmed almost ALL the movie before the change
@@diegocarvajalcastro
They were SIX WEEKS into filming. That’s about halfway, or almost. It took 13 additional weeks to finish filming with Michael J Fox onboard.
Stoltz actually looked more like Glover than Fox did.
Marty also has a mother...
Marty doesn't look like his mother either
It's a shame people hate on 3. I always felt part 2 as the weaker of the three. I loved the reversal that Marty was the one telling doc to not mess with the past. And it made marty to not give into his pride when someone calls him out. As it always led to bigger problems for him.
same
Back to the Future is definitely in my top 10 favorite films of all time and honestly I can't imagine anyone else playing Marty Mcfly
GREAT SCOTT
Same.
GREAT SCOTT
Poor Crispin Glover he's an awesome actor!!!! He deserves the $$$.. they should have just paid him his money and done movie 2.
You can notice Glover’s presence missing from the other films, his performance is that much better.
Ok but MJF wasn't 'just some kid from a TV show' Family Ties made him VERY famous with or without Back to the Future.
This is why they specifically wanted him as Marty, and thank god for that!
I loved that show because of Alex P Keaton
@HOLLYWOOD Back then, TV and movies were very separate things, there wasn't the crossover between actors and projects like there is now. Fox was a famous TV star in America but worldwide he wasn't, unless you watched that particular show. He wasn't the global star and name that BTTF made him.
@Mr Glass Tf is you talking about he literally said he was 'just some kid from a TV show' which is wildly inaccurate.
@@lwaves True. But, being famous in America, esp how famous he was in Hollywood, and the millions upon millions of viwers they got per episode...it's not accurate to call him 'some kid from a TV show'. He also did do movies before BTTF although they never got nearly as popular as BTTF.
Stoltz had 2 bad things for the main role: 1) his face is too rigid in every scene 2) he's tall and strong and that doesnt work well when it comes to show a little guy struggling with bullying
I think him being tall and strong made sense in context, he didn't see that aspects of himself, he was so bullied back then that he believed his reality was being weak and worthless of doing something good.
@@PatoGuzmanAd I totally agree with you! Looking back at the franchise, I think they made a mistake.
Tom Wilson, who played Biff, was bullied as a kid despite his size. And he got the role of Biff when they cast Eric Stoltz because the original Biff choice J.J. Cohen, who ended up as Skinhead in Biff's gang, was only a little taller than Stoltz. Which meant when they got Michael J. Fox after all, Marty ended up *WAY* shorter than Biff.
what kind of clown casted him in the first place lol
He is too serious and "dark" for a lighthearted comedy adventure movie, the studio had correct reason to replace him.
MJF was amazing in his prime.. and even when his health let him down, he was still the beating heart of Spin City... wish him well, miss the classic timing and impeccable humour he brought to every role.
Ive gone back to watch Family Ties episodes that predate my young interest.
Classic
Wow, you actually did the impossible and taught me something I didn’t know about Back To The Future. I didn’t know Crispin Glover’s side of this. That’s what I get for getting my info from the studio.
That was really interesting. I was supposed to go to Emerald City Comic Con earlier this month and the whole Back to the Future Cast, expect Crispin Glover, was supposed to be there. I wondered why he wasn’t a part of it. Now I’m thinking this is why.
I was supposed to go to that too! Small world
He Who Brings The Thunder I was so bummed when they cancelled but I’d been expecting it for a few weeks before it happened. I have an original Back to the Future movie poster and had signed up to get them all to sign it. Here’s hoping the rescheduling for August happens and they all are able to come! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
It might be because he was shooting for American Gods (he plays Mr. World).
Same here, I was going to do Press at ECCC. I remember coming across an article on why Glover doesnt attend BTTF Reunions.
hard to get him to come...
If Eric Stoltz was marty mcfly, i feel back to the future would have a lot darker of a feel to it
luis whiley I kinda wanna watch a dark version of BTF now...
actually one of the reason they didn't like Stoltz is that he wasn't funny enough..
luis whilst I would watch that version for fun. I'd adjust the music a but maybe to fit that performance as well.
@@jasonshannon8708 Actually, there was a more serious score that was recorded back in 1985. Google BTTF 2009 Intrada.
I'd like to see the unfinished work. Michael J Fox was too much of a goofball.
Back to the Future is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Great video bud! I learned quite a bit that I had never known about that movie. Such a classic film! Have a great day.
That’s interesting that Eric Stoltz lost the part because he wasn’t funny enough. Fast forward to Pulp Fiction where he was Lance the drug dealer and he was very funny in that role. I imagine that to be an important lesson for an actor to learn.
yup good point stupid
Honestly, I think it's that they wanted Michael J. Fox all along so the director didn't tell Eric that they wanted him to be funny.
Eric in his mind was making his own movie, he didn't think Marty should be clumsy sometimes: he thought he should be a tough guy
different kinds of funny
And what exactly is the important lesson to be learned? That working on vastly different roles with vastly different people requires different acting efforts? Cause that's kind of obvious to any actor.
Never noticed how much Eric actually looks like crispin in this..
Ihate Boris I had the same thought, definitely makes the father son parts look more believable
He looks like Luke Skywalker imo
white thin guy...
@@Octorious yes! No wonder why I feel like I've seen him before
Good channel. Best wishes from Brazil!
Fantastic videos, man! Amazing production.
They literally made a mold out of dudes face?? Wow I’d be so pissed
😂😂
Just wait with CGI tech in a few years and voice modulation software studios will probably have it in actors contracts that they have the right to use your face and voice after you die. Hell they already did it in star wars rouge 1. Looked off at times but give it a few years.
What would piss you off more. Them making a rubber mold out of your face and goin to the max to keep your character and avoid paying you. Or, them spending 4 million to can you basically, cause you suck
Hey made the mold long before he was gone... They probably didn't think much of it
@switch player 101 They used the technique but for Rogue One they got permission from both Carrie Fisher (who was alive at the time) and from the Cushing Estate to use their likenesses. So no, they didn't already do it the way you say for that movie. Same goes for the use of Carrie's footage/likeness in Rise Of Skywalker.
For the future, if the actor signs those rights away in their contracts then so be it, it's their choice.
@Halie Parker They already had the mold from BTTF1 as that's how prosthetic makeup works. Glover obviously knew about that and that's not why he was pissed. The problem came from them making more masks using them on another actor for BTTF2 without asking him.
I always felt something was weird with that scene of McFly hanging upside down. It kinda scared me as a kid because there was something that didn't add up with the expression of his face. Thanks for teaching me something new today!
Yeah it looks really off, especially as I know that humans can't stay upside down for long periods of time.
Thanks for putting the ad at the end.
Gave ya a like for that
Really great info!
Glover’s performance was so good that I’m not sure If he actually acted or just being himself. I’m still salty that he’s not in 2&3. Like imagine if he’s part of the casts..
I strongly feel that he would have played the ancestor Seamus McFly in part 3.
GalahadGregory he would have saved #3
“They literally put Crispin Glover’s face on another human being!”
Rogue One: O_O
but with consent, consent is important
@@raelliebenberg4008 What consent? Peter Cushing died 1994.
@@Soebe His relatives signed off on it.
How about Leia in both Rogue One and episode 9?
@Mimu Mi: Carrie Fisher was alive to give permission for Rogue One. Episode 9 used footage filmed before she died.
Great video. I knew all this before but you told the story really well. FYI - at 7:24 you spelling "that's" wrong.
This movie cemented Michael J. Fox in terms of popularity.
You could write a _Back To The Future_ film about this.
Would be cool to get a Disaster Artist style movie like they did for The Room
Like a film about making the film?
Indeed, a case where the making of a film would make an entertaining movie in its own right! 🍿😁
aka a back to the future dolemite
@@ther3aper561 title it: Back to "Back to the future"
02:55 The showrunner did not want to "give away" Micheal J. Fox, that's why they had to "settle for" Stolz.
I've heard both these stories before but not so succinctly and well explained. Bravo.
Thanks for this. It was super interesting!
So Crispin Glover is responsible for why studios haven't pulled the crap they do in the plot of the movie The Congress.
Well, I'm impressed. I didn't realise that wasn't really Crispin Glover. Pretty good effect for the time.
Yes, it was. Until this video I thought it was Crispin. They even stimulated the voice pretty well.
7:38 Some weird editing here, doesn’t seem intentional
I caught that too. Thought I’d missed something
Same man
Read the pinned comment
This was a superior look at some of the history of a movie and its two principals. Really nicely done.
I always thought there was something off about Marty's dad in Part 2! Thank you for letting me know what it was that was bothering me!
when old man look... look off anyhow...
I can't believe I never knew it was a different actor
Well uh he was kinda dead
Mom, you wouldn't believe it!
I had a dream doc turned himself into a pickle! He called himself pickle doc!
Funniest dream I've had.
Son that really happened you fell asleep watching Rick and Morty
I'm pickle doc!
Cogniferous Pickle DOOOOOOC!!
EPIC REDDIT SOOOOOY
"Great Scott! I've turned myself into a pickle, Marty!"
I am happy that they were able to make Back to the Future with Micheal J Fox. However, I find it regrettable that Crispin Glover was not kept for the other two movies. I am certain that by doing so the trilogy would have been even better.
I learned about this from the symphony conductor of the Vancouver Symphonic Orchestra at a showing of this movie with live orchestration
Meanwhile they changed the actor who played Jennifer's role between the first and second movie and no one noticed...
She went from eighteen to forty in the next film. At least I noticed
@@anibalrodriguez2626 No, Claudia Wells played Jennifer in the original movie and Elisabeth Shue played the character in the two sequels.
She chose not to return due to family illness.
Yes that's why they had to change actor
Yeah I didn’t notice. Cause she’s a girl I guess and they look similar enough. Harder to do with guys.
Crispin Glover stole every scene he was in.
from 7:37 to 7:40 - The splice did not work, I'm starting to catch that for a lot of videos on CZcams recently. Please double check this and fix it if you can otherwise, Great Work!
“A land mark decision that would prevent movie studios from doing that again”
Disney be like: let’s just wait until they Die first.
I remember a shot from Fringe where they`re at an alternative reality, and there`s a poster where they anounce "Back to the Future: Starring Eric Stoltz!"
I miss that show.
restlessheroes Yeah, me too.
3:45
Only 2 hours of sleep a day for 3 months? That's a lot of coffee they had to have been drinking
Just Some Guy without a Mustache it might have contributed to his Parkinson’s
Charmo.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache i’m starting to see you have the same interests as me. idk how i feel about that
Just give him something without any sugar in it. Okay?
it’s called cocaine buddy
Best video on bttf controversy, surrounding Stoltz and Glover!
I have used the lines "Hello McFly!! anyone there?" When someone was not listing to me once. lol
So George McFly had Biff taking the piss out of him and then in real life the film company. Using a mold of hes face without asking him is way out of order in my view. No wonder he was pissed off.
Fun fact: The original Jennifer was played by Melora Hardin aka Jan Levinson-Gould from the Office, but she was matched up height-wise with Stolz and was too tall for Micheal J. Fox so was recast with Claudia Wells
Great vid bub
00:03 Just by the shot that alone of Eric Stoltz, just looks so serious and lacks that awesome energy of Michael J Fox. Gotta love Michael!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
My take away from the end of the 1st movie was, confidence equals success
Same honestly
I agree with Glover that the ending of the first movie is its biggest weakness. I could just never pinpoint why until now.
i don't really get it though, the ending is not at all about "money = happiness" its more about how happiness and confidence = money
Then you are just as wrong as he was. The message was never about money buying happiness, his character managed to overcome his insecurities by beating the bully, and therefore got the confidence to ask out his future wife, and become a writer. He simply became famous and happened to get money because people enjoyed what he wrote.
Fox killed it, but I still feel bad for Eric Stoltz. Imagine being thrown away from a movie like that, and then seeing how it succeed with another actor. It was not his fault, it was the damn casting fault.
Michael did the roll perfectly and was really good for the character, they chose right
the creators stated no 4th film or reboot will exist while they're alive
Clickbait that’s good. Too many reboots and rehashes nowadays.
There are some good movies being made still, but it feels like the industry overall is too vanilla.
Movies are filled with the same tired tropes and predictable storylines. A lot of movies are enjoyable, but they don’t make classics anymore.
They did make a fourth film, it's the BttF game from Telltale.
DJKennedy90 Ha, I guess you’re technically not wrong. I still play it, it’s fun, I just love the whole AU thing about the game.
I come from the the year2045 and yes they did remake sigh
Ironic as it is one of the few movie remakes I would be interested in seeing.
I think it would be interesting (and different enough) to see a kid today get sent back to the 1980s.
I took the DeLorean for a spin to the alternate reality where they released the film with Eric Stoltz in the lead. The alternate reality you describe where Stoltz and Glover were in all three films doesn't exist because the film tanked at the box office and therefore there was no sequel. People either had never heard of BTTF, or they said it sucked.
Lea Thompson said in an interview that the director/producers had planned on putting Crispin Glover in the upside down machine because he wasn't hitting his marks and they were mad about it. So they designed that contraption for him, but ended up putting the other actor in it when Crispin was let go. So while it may have been used to hide the fact that it wasn't Crispin, it was not designed for that purpose.
Beautifully put together... And I've been a fan since 1985!
Its sad that we didn't get to see Crispin Glover in parts 2 and 3. But the lawsuit did ensure that this would never happen again. So overall, I count this as a win.
Imagining a serious portrayal of Marty is impossible for me
Ed Bowyer like trying to put Neo from the matrix in there lmao 🤣.
terrible actor.... sound boring as hell movie...
Ed Bowyer never heard the saying ‘comedy is a serious business’?
Amazeballs, thanks!
Sorry to hear Glover got treated that way.
This is heavy, doc!
There's that word again, heavy! Is there a problem with the earth's gravitational pull in the future? 🔮🤔😉
@@trinaq beat me to it 🤣
Beat me too!....but, "wait, don't tell me. Your here from the Coast Guard Youth Auxiliary...."
I've wanted somebody to do any kind of video on back to the future for a long time!
That explains why it maybe hurt crispin glovers career going forward. I looked for him and really didn’t see anything. That’s sad him. I really liked him!!