HONEST CLIENT: "I TRIED TO REWIRE THIS AND ****** IT UP!!" |Electrical Fault | Electrician In London
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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2021
- In this video I'm called out to repair the work of a customer messed up the wiring of a switch fitted.
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At least she told you what she’d done from the offset It’s a lot quicker when they point you in the right direction rather than claiming they’ve not touched anything and it’s mysteriously connected itself up wrong
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Have had both sides of it in the past. It is a lot easier if they admit it up front.
It's smarter to be upfront about it, Your save a lot of time.
@@infesticon and that time is their money, and your patience, willingness and determination ;)
Yup, ive always said if you fuck up.. own it..in most situations unless its totally unforgivable levels it will make things easier for everyone
I'm not a sparks but I like your down to earth( no pun intended) approach to your work and vids. You don't big yourself up like some others do.👍
Thanks Paul!
Mick. Lol
Apologies, not sure what happened there
Got your wires crossed.
For sure. He outs me at ease
I was thinking, “why the hell is she in a rush to pick up a turkey in February?!”
...then realised this was filmed before Christmas!
Top video Delroy 👍🏼
Yep, just getting through a backlog of unused footage.
Gotta admire that honesty. I work construction/remodeling myself, and when working on my own house I pulled all the cables and installed all switch/socket/junction boxes myself. Everything else I left to a sparky I know and trust, because I dont want there to be any risks of electric hazards in the house for my wife and kids.
I like old Delroy very methodical thinker, and he don't rush around best of all he actually gets the job done correctly, great content loving these videos 👌
Thanks Jamie
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Love the honesty i hope she got a discount for being upfront, Instead of lying and having you spend an hour to diagnose where in the system someone has tampered with.
I work in IT and i would rather a person be honest and admit they fucked something up as it makes my life harder when they lie.
Delroy is so chilled out,absolutely how a tradesman should be
The switch is a Schneider switch the loop is a none active termination can be used to connect neutrals in or lives etc without having to use connector block
Delroy...... you have to be one of the nicest people that walk our plant. Love watching your videos. Even though I no longer really spark anymore. Keep it up buddy
Keep making videos, I just started my electricians course and am unable to get hands down practical experience and videos like this are Soo helpful, about real life scenarios, please, keep making videos for people like me!
1 minute in and already want to throttle the dog
i agree :)
Love watching these UK electrical videos. Such a different world compared to here in Canada. Good on ya Delroy!
Great spark,great patience great pride in your work.Love your videos.
Thank you sir
I use the loop terminal for the neutrals when I run out of Wagos. Having said that when you’re trying to terminate 6 neutrals, it ends up more hassle that it’s worth and it gets left.
i came along one of those switches this week, had to take a second look regarding the terminal arrangement.
I have a f-ton of work to do and deadlines to meet by the end of the week, but as soon as I see an Eastway Electrical vid in my recommendations, I just can't resist clicking 🤣
Great video Del, keep up the good work.
Nice one delroy 🙌🏻🙌🏻 keep them coming
Thank you sir!
That dog barking is driving me insane 🤣🤣
It's not a proper dog, it's a woppit.
@@erikthenorviking8251 yeah
Sorry pal
Nothing fazes Delroy....................Always smiling 👍
I try!
Thank you for the uploads & lesson, regards
You're welcome
Shocking! I guess we all learn by our mistakes, well done omar, on the videos!!!
The favorite seems to be putting the switch line in with neutrals, and bang when its turned on.Mixing up the neutrals etc, and half the lights in the house not working, or the light stays on all the time.Or I spent all weekend trying to sort it and you did it in 10 minutes, thats because Im the electrician and your not.
New sub, about halfway through my am2 to be a domestic spark love the videos
Good video Delroy!
Your voice is so calming haha
Love ur videoes bro I reckon sparkys should start using boot lace ferrules on all cables it's a better connection I've been using them for years I know it's time consuming but the job looks so clean and it's easy to replace sockets and switches.
Great video! Thanks
it's always right to leave it up to the profession
I'd agree
Yes del I’ve done them switches before hager
Well I have always been a lurker but I just subbed to your channel.
I had one of these the other day, apparently no one had tampered with the switch and it just stopped working! But it would never of worked the way it had been wired🤦♂️ least to say i fixed it, but it would of much better if the client had just been honest like this lady.
The loop terminal on the light switch is used when you have neutral (2 plate wiring) at the switch. Or i guess can be used simply as a connector block. First time I have seen also.
I’ve learnt something today😎
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Great show, I find your voice and attitude relaxing. Wouldn't like to do your job for any money.
Thanks Mark!
Hi …good video.
Did you find out what was causing that light to flicker?
Great content!!
Thanks Lewis!
Loop terminal is for neutrals - Schneider and Hagar do this on their light switches. Nothing to do with intermediate
the loop its a extra terminal that does nothing , its not essentially for neutrals , you can put whatever cables there
Hope you enjoyed the vid
The loop in these newer switches are to eliminate time spent working above yourself i.e on stepladders and scaffolding for example fitting multiple lights . Think about it .. if you run all your permanent lives to your switches , then you’re doing most of your work off the floor at a safe and comfortable working height and doing it a lot faster to . 👍
The loop is for the neutral connection, if the feeds at the switch. Schnieder switches have them, which is why there the best!
Its a shame that no neutral goes to the majority of UK switches. With the neutral you can install smart switches.
@@Chrisallengallery thats future work for us :D
Oooooo niceeee
# yeah, but now days, more smart switches are developed without the need of neutral!
Agree they are schneider I use them as well and they are not bad for their price.
Sorry for the 'stupid' question but just curious: were you working 'live' on that, or did you isolate it circuit-by-circuit? Or how did you ensure safety?
I would think the kitchen light is wired to to fitting with a s/l down to the switch and the the other was wired to the switch as the neutrals were linked out and only had a s/l to to the fitting
Are those switches Scneider brand by any chance? The are the only ones i have seen a loop terminal on them. You can't use it as an intermediate because it doesn't go anywhere
I came across a flickering light many years ago and it was due to the earth and neutral being connected incorrectly ie. the earth conductor was in the neutral terminal and neutral connected to earth.
Any update to the flickering?
Loop is for 2 plate wiring. you can stick the neutrals in there it’s effectively just a block nit connect to any switch mechanism. My bet is that’s a schnider switch if my memory’s correct
You are correct that it is Schneider, the loop is for loop @ switch installation (what most new builds do now instead of the loop being at the ceiling rose) where you line out to your next switch in another room. You then run your switched live up to your room lights.
@@webzterd i always 3 plate a lighting circuit unless the customer wants loads of spots or if its a loft conversion ( or kitchen with lights in plynths / under lights etc in which case i take the feed straight to the switch.
I had a call out a few weeks ago at night for a domestic property for a housing association with no lights,the tenant said the mcb was tripping after a minute,they had down lights installed in the ceiling in a wooden pelmet under the ceiling centre so lowered from the original ceiling which ran the full length of the rooms and around the outside of the rooms with boxing with no access to the original pendants also the tenant didn't know where the original pendants were.
Metal switch plates with cpc's cut off at the switches.
Original 2 way switch strappers diverted so no longer a 2 way but to operate centre ceiling and outer edge lights separately which had been apparently installed by an electrician they had got privately and certified.
Junction box somewhere in the kitchen ceiling with no access above as there was a single cable at the switch and pendant.
I was there a couple of hours never did find the fault as there were several down lights to investigate at gone 10.00pm.
Housing association has told the tenant they need to get their own electrician in at their own expense as the original wiring and light fittings had been altered.
Thanks for sharing
I think if the homeowner is confident then sure give a job a go... People need to know their limits not physically but mentally too. Rarely does a job go as you think it will. I was a trained plumber of just two years - I just wasn't confident enough. I'm now a different role and much happier.
Hey Delroy you have loop connection in click rose bases!!
Thanks for sharing
Nice to hear "phase" still being used I only ever hear it from old school sparks (and myself, who was taught by an old school spark) now but still prefer it to the newer "line" terminology 😅 little things eh
It will always be phase to me.
@@WalshelectricalIe is to me too. Also can't be bothered with the CPC name for the earth cable.
Phase or live every time for me. Also earth instead of CPC
Common, 1 way, 2 way and loop is how every switch mech in Australia is. Loop is just a connector/spare terminal. Nothing to do with switching or intermediate purposes
Appreciate your comment
These light switches are getting more and more common up north now del
Oh really, thanks for sharing
Here in the great south land we get switches (big name brand) with loop and common marked thus.....?????
Stavros
Could you send a link to Omari pls
love honest customers but had one never told me they did a botch repair and I was like why is the wall moving (shower reseal and grouting job) the wall collapsed and they hadn't fully secured the wall properly, a half day repair turned into 2 day repair job
Damn, what's the big white box on the wall in the kitchen? Water heater? There isn't a garage for that or at least a laundry room...
At 1:10? yes, water heater. Many are also for the central heating. In the kitchen is the best place, so you get hot water from the tap fast.
I like your videos but some times the sound volume is very different between different scenes. (House/Van)
Thanks for your constructive feedback
Nice 👌
Never rely on those fluke or otherwise pen checkers... you meter is your best friend
I was thinking it looks like an intermediate switch.
Was that low framerate set on purpose?
We're learning as we go along. Bare with us
The neutrals at the switch the other red is the sw line return???? bell it out between cpc and RN. the circuit probably may have a backfeed judging on those neutrals shes fucked with it all so most likely if no cpc quote to replace cable.
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Seriously clients that don't shut there dogs up drive me up the wall
What do you use to film GoPro??
Yep
@@eastwayelectrical appreciate you reply
paps! DELROY, respect but the loop bit slot is for ya neutrals. euro regs from back in da ya know
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'Ello gov'nor!
Are you based in South East London Del?
Work all over
Yes I met him in Leyton last year said alright to del good fellow genuine sparks old school
Do you just work down London ???
Think she meant City & Guilds 236 part 1
tell your customer that she is being surprised by taking the loop to the switch but not to worry as some electricians still run rings!
What's wrong with ring mains?.....👀
@@Walsh30303 they're a waste of time, cable and testing
@@codenamenel only one extra leg and testing doesn't exactly increase the time, allows it to be split into two radials at a future point if a fault arises to save having to replace cabling and damage walls fixing a radial break though
@@Walsh30303
An extra leg that isnt needed so saving time and money on installation and testing,
You say testing doesn't increase time, you have to do all the ring final tests, then cross connecting of L+N and test each socket, then cross connect L+E and test each socket for R1+R2. Times by 3 for most properties and its much more time consuming than radial testing !
If theres a broken ring its going to possibly overload cables without knowing about it until (maybe) one day theres an EICR done. With Radials if theres a fault the rest of the circuit doesnt work and its more likely to get repaired properly. Then you get the DIYers adding spurs, on top of spurs, on top of spurs leading to dangerous overloaded cable conditions. With radials those dangerous conditions cannot occur
As someone carrying out EICRs every day on Council properties the amount of broken rings and DIY disasters I come across is unbelievable.
Well can't blame her considering Delroy himself couldn't fix it either, sounds like a switch from hell lol
There is word Sparks at 1:28
Schoot the dog!
Delroy I think people should not be able to messing up with the electrics and leave them to the professionals electricians
@Dark Dreamz a few hundred for a light fitting change? I'm in the wrong profession!!
@Dark Dreamz that’s why we get so many call outs people think it’s easy then halfway through they realise they don’t know which cables are the strappers for the 2 way or intermediate switches and before you know it we’re getting called out 🤑
I understand your point of view. Thanks for sharing
@@Chrisallengallery no way ,4 years training etc you have to pay for what we know
I think more people should do it more fucks up more jobs for the sparys $$$
Having never worked in domestic electrical work, I was under the impression that they need a part P.
Youre ok doing like for like replacements but you need some amount of competency 🤪
You don't need any qualifications to work on your own electrics but in the case of an electrical fire etc, you may get prosecuted or sued for damages. Like Graham said, you need some amount of competency before attempting your own work.
Hope you enjoyed the vid
Part P pee, destroyed the trade, I have been doing work in labs, etc, when asked to do so a decade ago, in a private centre, there was guys that did not know a scrap of English, getting part P certs, oyeah five K, means pass, even if they have to..... Um, help em, its a scam, whatever scheme your in, checkout the documentary secrets of the magna carta, a real eye opener, control the serfs and plebs,
There's no such thing as "a Part P".
Part P of the building regulations states that all work must be done by a "competent person" but does not define what a "competent person" is.
Those who are registered with organisations such as NICEIC can self-certify their own work, anyone else is supposed to get their work certified by the local authority's building control or an authorised third-party certifier.
However only two sorts of work: installing a consumer unit or installing a "new circuit", need to be notified to building control, so in practice for anything else is a matter for the individual to decide whether they are "competent" or not.
As others have said, though, if you do your own work and someone gets hurt because of your lack of competence you could be in serious hot water.
Ok
She may have blown the mechanism in the switch!!?? so not connecting correctly!!
Probably put the switch live into Loop(N) which is not very common in UK switches.
Thanks Jemseeds
I was expecting that switch to be a lot worse.
If it works, it's a "Fluke" !
Bad neutral connection
Those fittings look rather sus
Diyer.....at the light point was 3 blacks and 3 reds...I joined all the reds + and all the black -
And it went bang......
Me.....😂😂😂😂😂
If you don’t know what you doing....call the experts
That's the standard wiring arrangement when replacing a ceiling rose with a homebase chandelier lol
3 way twin way switch common stuff,
People do switch lines in the switch not the light pendant ffs mun
Honesty is the best medicine 💊💉...sometimes
I think the lady she mess it up
Hope you enjoyed the video
Anyone in the comments known the best places to look for a Apprenticeship
Best of luck
Phone every spark in your local area you can find through Google etc. Put yourself out there. And comment wat area ur from cos u never know someone local to u might see it. Best of luck
@@eastwayelectrical I’m about 9 months into my apprenticeship now😂 appreciate all the videos ❤
I get fed up with peoples lies, “I didn’t touch it, it’s always been like it”. Just charge them more to fix it. I even ask them if anyone has altered anything. Do give them a chance to come clean.
Thanks for sharing your experiences
Basic stuff
Nothing worse than yapping dogs when trying to work
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LMFAO never seen a switch like that....WTF been a sparky for over 20years and I have seen MANY switch's like that
Basically NEW design....you wanna get out there more mate......Well done for fault finding and correcting the F@@k up
As an American, these switches blow my mind. Seems way more complicated than it needs to be.
Between the yapping dog and the yapping women, I would have just walked out and said, "well, you got your Installer's C & G, so good luck.."
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red and black is over 30 years old and is past manufacturers use by date you cannot safety check that cable as it should not be in use..the only legal way is to suggest a rewire its no different to connecting to a old fuze box you become liable for the work you've done
Nothing wrong with red and black so long as it's in good condition and is not sweating green goo.
@@barrieshepherd7694 trust me not all wire is bright when stripped...it takes a simple kink to make a hot spot normally hidden in the wall causes failure in the PVC any moisture surrounding the cable will create copper oxide the green colour you're chatting about
@@jayday4879 Nope not talking about verdigris. I'm talking about the breakdown of the PVC caused by manufacturing issues with plasticisers in the late 60's early 70's. Calling for a complete re-wire just because the cables are red/black is, to my mind, work generation of the worst kind and gets electricians bad names - just as it does requiring a board change to metal when there is no other work to do.
@@barrieshepherd7694 I don't think it has anything to do with generating work it's purely because of fire issues most houses with red and black have internal walls made of Kindle and tinder wood covered in a lime plaster with a cavity so your house could be completely alight without you even knowing it..the only way I can explain it's like a can of gas .gas don't go out of date so why has it got a shelf life ..because the container rots same with cable
@@jayday4879 We will have to disagree then - I'm under the impression that most properties, built in the 60/70s, had solid internal walls so the concept that some mysterious overheating can cause a fire in an unknown location stretches' my imagination somewhat. If the old cable is in good condition, and passes insulation tests, why on earth do you think it will suddenly burst into flames because it is the wrong colour? You will be telling me that I need to re-wire because I MUST have surge arrestors to be legal - surges that my property, with underground supply cabling, has successfully managed to escape for the last 40 years. Fortunately many of the sparkies I see on CZcams are happy to install new boards without ripping out red and black so I guess there are some honourable sparkles out there.
Well, remember in the late 1980's, when the trades made a very very decent packet down the south east? So much so, there was Harry Enfield on the TV with his character loads of money, well, the ruling elite and political class had to sort that out, so a few years later, the Eastern Europeans came along, polish etc, then a few decades later the world, in the West Midlands there were two English speaking guys at the top that was a Engineer and a supervisor, the rest were from Ukraine, a few Latvians and a guy from Portugal, that did the underpasses in Birmingham, this was awhile ago, but shows you the big boys could simply import muscle in, now brexit is here, let's see what happens, as far as the electrics are concerned , part P is a way to give a ticket to people to do the job, making the price drop, I know of people on the dole, that still do electrical work, cash in hand, been reported, get a slap on the wrist and business as usual, there is a whole undercover market, that and dodgy boxes of cigs, it's the wild west, want a eicr 100, site unseen, not sure how they get away with it, but I know afew stories and I am not giving anyone the hack, well, I shall work for a living, pay my tax, yet grumble under my breath, lol,
She can't even hang a pair of curtains why she trying to do that lol
mask on ....Shiiites