Delroy you're a legend I love the way you speak to the customers. So important to set customer expectations and speak clearly and its something a lot of electricians struggle with.
That lady has a very nice voice. I could listen to her all day. (It a compliment). I am hearing impaired so some voices are easier to listen to and understand than others.
As a 22 year old recently qualified electrician who has only just started getting sent on his own jobs - it’s great to have videos like this where I can learn how to deal with customers as this is half the battle in my opinion and something I’ve always struggled with
Hello, the original installation was probably done around 50 years ago. Modern uk homes being built 'today' are rarely future-proofed, that means that most improvements that need additional cables have new cables run on the surface, the alternative is to chisel plaster off walls, and/or cut and lift existing wooden floorboarding.
In an old building like that, "level" is relative to the surroundings. However, one of these days you will work in a a place where that little level will ruin your day due to lack of accuracy. I've had that bite me real good a few times, therefore the smallest level I own is 6 inches.
I just put a coverplate on today and I leveled it out but looked at the top and bottom and saw that one side was closer to the edge of the wall than the other. I threw my level on the wall and the bubble was almost out of the middle. Crazy place with drywalls lines all over so not the best craftsmanship I'd say.
@@xylexut2589 I've had a similar experience hanging a large TV over a fireplace mantel in a 100 year old house. The mantel was out of level...as was the ceiling in the opposite direction. It was impossible scenario...it would never look correct. The homeowner and myself ultimately agreed to put it on the same angle as the mantel.
Taking the back box out would damage the surrounding plaster and wallpaper/paint , also maybe the customer didn’t want the extra cost or damage. A small bead of caulking would seal the gap on the plastic box.
Just watching you, artisan, nick bundy and residual current iv learned loads and also makes me excited to get out there on the tools. Been fitting smart meters for 8 years so same repetitive work. I’m bored out my head need something to challenge me again
Hope you achieve your ambition. Nightschool classes at the local technical college or one day a week courses may be helpful to you. Unfortunately the cost of courses has risen dramatically over the last few decades. ? Would your employer allow you one day off per week to attend college, most likely a day unpaid ? . ? Are government-backed career development Loans available ? As far back as 1965 professors were talking about 'multiple careers' for the same person, and also expecting 'lifelong learning'.
Majik man should call u merlin 🧙♂️ great human quality and a comedian. Love the content was waiting for something to happen but..... oh well loved it anyway. How more down to earth ya want??? 👍
That's an old infra red beam that once had a small mirror opposite which reflected the invisible beam back. When someone walked through the beam the reflection was broken and ding a ling time.
@@eastwayelectrical If you haven't thrown that alarm device yet, perhaps a video taking a closer look at it would be interesting. Or mail it to BigClive.. he'd gladly make a video about its inner workings about such curious devices.
3:09 You have an uneven surface so you can't mount the receptacle flush to the wall .... just use a thin coat of spackle/joint compound to fill it in (very easy).
I think it'd take a fair amount of spackle to fill that in enough to keep the box flat. I doubt he's got that on him or the time to let it dry and then do the work but in the USA, I sometimes seal things with caulk or silicone. So in short, he could've mounted it then caulked the gap around it and smoothed it out so it looks nice but I'd only do that if I knew they weren't going to need it taken off for a while.
I'm curious - it looks like the studs are closer together around electrical outlets in UK? In the US, we have a different standard and pretty much all of our (non low-voltage) electronics only need to be on one side of a stud. So I'm curious about the difference.
In most UK properties over 50 years old (which is over half in many areas) all walls are brick, both external and internal. Newer properties tend to be aerated concrete block load-bearing walls (with a single layer of brick on the exterior face) with studs and plasterboard/drywall on the inside. Non load-bearing internal walls tend to be standard 4x2 studs. Stud walls are faster and cheaper to put up and make retrofit electrical work a damn sight easier, but they have a host of other issues. IIRC the UK stud distance standard is 400mm, which is about 16" but noggins (horizontal lengths of timber between studs) are more common than they appear in the US, which means we rely less on boarding to prevent racking. Extra noggins tend to be put in where heavy loads and electrical fittings are expected to be installed.
@@lordsummerisle87 what's really annoying is when someone sticks at noggin at the perfect height for all of our sockets (or more frequently, switches). It results in the noggin generally having to be moved up or down a few cm so there's enough room for the boxes.
Sparky, I truly enjoy your videos- Regards from Germany ;) I wonder why you always twist your wires before using a Wago or any screw type connector- I'd suggest leaving them straight (Wago demands to do so anyways) or using cable ferrules for a safer connection. Anyways- thats the only little bit from my work experience- keep going young man!!
Twisting small strands together stops them splaying apart, thus ensuring all strands enter the connector. ? Do you mean need a ferrule where with a flat end enters the connector ? Following manufacturers instructions, yes - ? but how does a twisted multistranded conductor differ from a circular single solid conductor? Not all crimped terminations are top quality - I'd like to see the results of Wago's lab tests. Good to discuss options.
@@oldbutstillcurious3615 Twisting wires does in fact not contact all strands under a screw terminal. It starts with the forced separation between the wires and comes into play with thermal expansion. Ferrules (Check en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_wire_ferrule ) are mandatory in most countries I work, Eg. Germany, England, Most part of Europe and Asia. As for Wago- They just demand to not twist it- though I find it easier to insert.
That's called TBOE. Top bottom opposite end it was more efficient than the normal way back in the day with low pressure systems . You see it more on commercial installs with iron pipework and long rads
My sister just brought a brand new flat an fall the TRVs are up top, think it’s better for smart TRVs too as they get a better idea of room temperature and easier to adjust
Nar that's not a cowboy I would have done the same only would have silicon around it, take the old box out would be a bigger job and bigger bill for the customer and possibility of damaging the plaster getting it out, and he did explain to the customer 1st what he intended to do and she was OK with that
You need professionals for professional jobs, but at the same time, most householders haven't got even a basic clue about the workings of their properties.
In my opinion there are very few very simple jobs, e.g disturbing a box often causes a small amount of plaster to fall downward behind wallpaper, difficult to get dust and small sharp plaster bits uphill and out from behind the edge of wallpaper even using a vacuum cleaner. Unfortunately solving one problem can create additional problems.
To get them into same color and in sense it does give it protective layer so condensation on the pipes is not in constant contact with the copper piping that then corrodes... but then again one nick on the surface to punch the paint and corrosion starts to spread under that paint nicely out of sight.. Not that its terrible issue really, but over time it can become one. Real thing i dont get it... or i do but still, people painting their radiators... with interior paint. It becomes insulating layer and limits heating capability of radiator. One should only use suitable thermal transfer paint designed to water heating systems. Then again people are idiots and most dont even know about this issue so go figure people use wrong paint.
Looked like a steel conduit and box, they can be a pig to remove without wall damage and It looks like the only earth was the conduit so a new box would have to be fixed to that, I can see why they fitted a double 'converta' socket last time, just not very well. It was always going to be a pain if the existing single box protruded.
@@themunchkinbear exactly my point, you can't so you wouldn't. I think the main issue was that the box was protruding coz the conduits were not set deep enough. There is also a cost factor on labour and probably other issues we don't know about. We all have better ways of doing jobs, but our methods may not always be practical
I was a BT engineer for 36 years and treating your customers with reverence as you do, is the most important part of the job.
Delroy you're a legend I love the way you speak to the customers. So important to set customer expectations and speak clearly and its something a lot of electricians struggle with.
He’s extremely thorough asks lots of questions to pick up the vibe of the property.
Thanks for the kind words. And I couldn't agree more regarding managing expectations.
I see a decent man doing a decent job for his customers
Well done Sir, nothing but respect for you
That lady has a very nice voice. I could listen to her all day. (It a compliment). I am hearing impaired so some voices are easier to listen to and understand than others.
Got a great respect for Leccies. These folks deal with danger every day so we can keep the lights on....great job lads.
I've been learning every single day since I stated my apprenticeship in 1983!
Good job, I really enjoyed your video.
As a 22 year old recently qualified electrician who has only just started getting sent on his own jobs - it’s great to have videos like this where I can learn how to deal with customers as this is half the battle in my opinion and something I’ve always struggled with
Hey, I’m 20 years old thinking of becoming a sparky. Any advice?
@@therealbosstopob4l974Lool same. Have you started yet?
Another great video Delroy, and I agree with Jordan, you Avery good way with customers, and a very gentle manner when speaking to them.
You’ve got a great attitude with customers I enjoy watching your vids
American here, it's nice to see how stuff is done overseas.
Hello, the original installation was probably done around 50 years ago. Modern uk homes being built 'today' are rarely future-proofed, that means that most improvements that need additional cables have new cables run on the surface, the alternative is to chisel plaster off walls, and/or cut and lift existing wooden floorboarding.
Started wearing gloves myself, makes me feel like a proper electrician, like Delroy.
That alarm belongs in a museum 😂
Another great video from the legend himself👍
Appreciate your kind words 👍
As you sais in the end, " .. at least she got it done properly. That's the main thing."
Absolutly agree with you. Safety first.
Can't be certain but the green boxes look like a photocell originally designed for an industrial purpose. Great video!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@@eastwayelectrical I thought it also was a photocell type beam that when crossed rung a ding dong chime
somewhere
as a danish electrician your videos is super useful and nice to watch !
In an old building like that, "level" is relative to the surroundings.
However, one of these days you will work in a a place where that little level will ruin your day due to lack of accuracy. I've had that bite me real good a few times, therefore the smallest level I own is 6 inches.
I have to agree tiny spirit levels are very sketchy
I just put a coverplate on today and I leveled it out but looked at the top and bottom and saw that one side was closer to the edge of the wall than the other. I threw my level on the wall and the bubble was almost out of the middle. Crazy place with drywalls lines all over so not the best craftsmanship I'd say.
@@xylexut2589 I've had a similar experience hanging a large TV over a fireplace mantel in a 100 year old house. The mantel was out of level...as was the ceiling in the opposite direction. It was impossible scenario...it would never look correct. The homeowner and myself ultimately agreed to put it on the same angle as the mantel.
Like the channel. Content creators/presenters who know their stuff and enjoy their what they do.
Taking the back box out would damage the surrounding plaster and wallpaper/paint , also maybe the customer didn’t want the extra cost or damage. A small bead of caulking would seal the gap on the plastic box.
Just watching you, artisan, nick bundy and residual current iv learned loads and also makes me excited to get out there on the tools. Been fitting smart meters for 8 years so same repetitive work. I’m bored out my head need something to challenge me again
Hope you achieve your ambition. Nightschool classes at the local technical college or one day a week courses may be helpful to you. Unfortunately the cost of courses has risen dramatically over the last few decades. ? Would your employer allow you one day off per week to attend college, most likely a day unpaid ? . ? Are government-backed career development Loans available ? As far back as 1965 professors were talking about 'multiple careers' for the same person, and also expecting 'lifelong learning'.
Legend!
Thank you sir👍
Majik man should call u merlin 🧙♂️ great human quality and a comedian. Love the content was waiting for something to happen but..... oh well loved it anyway. How more down to earth ya want??? 👍
Nice professional work even on the small jobs 👍
Very kind of you👍thanks for watching
That's an old infra red beam that once had a small mirror opposite which reflected the invisible beam back. When someone walked through the beam the reflection was broken and ding a ling time.
I love how you cut the fingertips off your gloves. I do the same thing!!
Might've been an MI5 safe house? 😄
you can get frames that go round the socket to push the box out a few mill...solves the problem...
It was such a good idea when they started putting lights on drills!
I always forget my flashlights but I always have a small drill so sometimes i just hold the trigger down a little bit and use it as a light.
Nice one Del.......that was certainly a weird alarm system.....👍
Seemed like something from a mission impossible movie
@@eastwayelectrical If you haven't thrown that alarm device yet, perhaps a video taking a closer look at it would be interesting. Or mail it to BigClive.. he'd gladly make a video about its inner workings about such curious devices.
This would be great to be examined by BigClive !
They were probably growing cannabis in the flat.
3:09 You have an uneven surface so you can't mount the receptacle flush to the wall .... just use a thin coat of spackle/joint compound to fill it in (very easy).
I think it'd take a fair amount of spackle to fill that in enough to keep the box flat. I doubt he's got that on him or the time to let it dry and then do the work but in the USA, I sometimes seal things with caulk or silicone. So in short, he could've mounted it then caulked the gap around it and smoothed it out so it looks nice but I'd only do that if I knew they weren't going to need it taken off for a while.
Could you use a little pair of tin snips to make the old box flush with the wall?
Any tips on becoming relaxed like you.
😆
Ganja man.
Have a few puffs before commencing.
@@mcChronic2007 It’s a bit racist of you to assume only black people smoke weed.
Did I notice there was no anchor chain on the gas cooker?
I'm a alarm engineer of 30 years. I have never seen anything like that before.
Epic.
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what's a mess nice touch on it
Delroy, I see you most mornings on Lea Bridge Rd.
Welstead road east ham?
Infra red beam like summat out of mission impossible lol.
Hey I have a quick question I would like to install emergency cut off switch on my workbench for I can connect my scroll saw and my drill press any
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we're gonna rock down to electric Avenue...the final bill be getting higher..😁👍
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We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue and then we'll take it higher!
@@braedonpeo4870 trust me that song is on my Playlist, I was just having a bit of fun with the lyrics lol.
I'm curious - it looks like the studs are closer together around electrical outlets in UK? In the US, we have a different standard and pretty much all of our (non low-voltage) electronics only need to be on one side of a stud. So I'm curious about the difference.
In most UK properties over 50 years old (which is over half in many areas) all walls are brick, both external and internal. Newer properties tend to be aerated concrete block load-bearing walls (with a single layer of brick on the exterior face) with studs and plasterboard/drywall on the inside. Non load-bearing internal walls tend to be standard 4x2 studs.
Stud walls are faster and cheaper to put up and make retrofit electrical work a damn sight easier, but they have a host of other issues. IIRC the UK stud distance standard is 400mm, which is about 16" but noggins (horizontal lengths of timber between studs) are more common than they appear in the US, which means we rely less on boarding to prevent racking. Extra noggins tend to be put in where heavy loads and electrical fittings are expected to be installed.
@@lordsummerisle87 what's really annoying is when someone sticks at noggin at the perfect height for all of our sockets (or more frequently, switches). It results in the noggin generally having to be moved up or down a few cm so there's enough room for the boxes.
Sparky, I truly enjoy your videos- Regards from Germany ;) I wonder why you always twist your wires before using a Wago or any screw type connector- I'd suggest leaving them straight (Wago demands to do so anyways) or using cable ferrules for a safer connection. Anyways- thats the only little bit from my work experience- keep going young man!!
Twisting small strands together stops them splaying apart, thus ensuring all strands enter the connector. ? Do you mean need a ferrule where with a flat end enters the connector ?
Following manufacturers instructions, yes - ? but how does a twisted multistranded conductor differ from a circular single solid conductor? Not all crimped terminations are top quality - I'd like to see the results of Wago's lab tests. Good to discuss options.
@@oldbutstillcurious3615 Twisting wires does in fact not contact all strands under a screw terminal. It starts with the forced separation between the wires and comes into play with thermal expansion. Ferrules (Check en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_wire_ferrule ) are mandatory in most countries I work, Eg. Germany, England, Most part of Europe and Asia.
As for Wago- They just demand to not twist it- though I find it easier to insert.
I would have taken old back box out and chipped a few bits off to make it flush
I would have cut a hole in the white box where the black box fits in. 🤷🏻♂️
@@BenDeSwert666 that's what I thought but them plastic boxs are brittle try cut a little bit off you might snap it in half
@@scitec717 fair enough 🤷🏻♂️
Brother Delroy need 35mm cable to help with the voltage drop.
I hope the person relocates their safe key.
0:52 is that radiator upside-down? Never seen a TRV at the top of a radiator like that before
Absolutely fine mate.
Source: trust me bro
Appreciate your thoughts
That's called TBOE. Top bottom opposite end it was more efficient than the normal way back in the day with low pressure systems . You see it more on commercial installs with iron pipework and long rads
@@Amexc 😂 love the source, might start using that myself 😃
My sister just brought a brand new flat an fall the TRVs are up top, think it’s better for smart TRVs too as they get a better idea of room temperature and easier to adjust
Ur a cool dude del, keep up the standards
9:30 I don't agree. Cables need to be removed
Stay safe.
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Retired(werk'n) keyboard super tech.
Wear your safety glasses.
What multimeter is that, seems a good kit of kit?
Looks like a fluke t6 1000 I've got one but only use it as a tong tester for measuring amperage on cables single cores on armoured cables etc
@@adierob1 spot on, t6 1000 seems to the one cheers!
3:10 That box would be easy to fix!
could of just put a single socket there......
should not be any electrical cables near a main gas feed
That in itself isn't a problem, especially if it's bonded properly (which is required by law in the UK)
Your a sound guy delroy have you has my electrician anytime
Some mission impossible beams n shi
What a cowboy he could have taken the old back box out of the wall so the other sat flush
Nar that's not a cowboy I would have done the same only would have silicon around it, take the old box out would be a bigger job and bigger bill for the customer and possibility of damaging the plaster getting it out, and he did explain to the customer 1st what he intended to do and she was OK with that
@@scitec717 John Wayne would have been proud of that job
You need some new gloves Del 😉
You need professionals for professional jobs, but at the same time, most householders haven't got even a basic clue about the workings of their properties.
8:31 all those cleaning products next to the oven? Thats crazy, no wonder fires happen surely someone has common sense...
Most cleaning products in spray bottles like that are non flammable.
I've been installing security systems for over 30 years and I have never seen anything like this. It looked made up and a bodge !
Why are there , what looks like copper pipes all over the walls inside the house?
hot water central heating from a boiler to all the radiators.
He hasn't been to my house.
Why not just make the original back box sit flush ? Remove , hammer and chisel … some filler and perfect
In my opinion there are very few very simple jobs, e.g disturbing a box often causes a small amount of plaster to fall downward behind wallpaper, difficult to get dust and small sharp plaster bits uphill and out from behind the edge of wallpaper even using a vacuum cleaner. Unfortunately solving one problem can create additional problems.
Never understood why people like to paint their pipes.
To get them into same color and in sense it does give it protective layer so condensation on the pipes is not in constant contact with the copper piping that then corrodes... but then again one nick on the surface to punch the paint and corrosion starts to spread under that paint nicely out of sight.. Not that its terrible issue really, but over time it can become one. Real thing i dont get it... or i do but still, people painting their radiators... with interior paint. It becomes insulating layer and limits heating capability of radiator. One should only use suitable thermal transfer paint designed to water heating systems. Then again people are idiots and most dont even know about this issue so go figure people use wrong paint.
@@Hellsong89 im installing some pipes for heating at my house and they’re galvanised. I’m not to keen on painting them because they shiny and new.
your drill sounds weird, maybe it just has a british accent
Surely the tidy option would have been to chisel out that single back box replacing it with a recessed double so the socket was flush mounted ?
Perhaps the customer didn’t mind a surface double socket
Looked like a steel conduit and box, they can be a pig to remove without wall damage and It looks like the only earth was the conduit so a new box would have to be fixed to that, I can see why they fitted a double 'converta' socket last time, just not very well. It was always going to be a pain if the existing single box protruded.
Can't chisel the conduits
@@MrSJT you wouldn’t, you’d expand the hole either side of the existing box, or to one side. Why on earth would you chisel the conduit ?!
@@themunchkinbear exactly my point, you can't so you wouldn't. I think the main issue was that the box was protruding coz the conduits were not set deep enough. There is also a cost factor on labour and probably other issues we don't know about. We all have better ways of doing jobs, but our methods may not always be practical
Why not just remove the single and chase in a double
Must have been a drug house previously
Are you really a qualified electrician ?
Given what he's doing would be highly illegal if he wasn't, yes.
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Take your shoes off bruv....
He had shoe covers plus you don't take your safety shoes off then go work on electrics
I'm more intrigued by how people can live in such a state
You seem like a swell guy.
@@chocolate_squiggle what are you even saying?