REBEL MOON I Can't Believe It's Not Star Wars
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- Zack Snyder’s rejected Star Wars film is here. Finally a win for Star Wars!
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Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon - Part One: A Child of Fire is finally here after 30 years. Originally written to be a Star Wars film and now, it’s own universe. Was Kathleen Kennedy right in rejecting Rebel Moon? Yes! For once she was correct.
Rebel Moon is the typical Zack Snyder project. Ugly and meaningless with way too much slow-motion and lens flair. Not really a surprise.
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Zack was a great director once, a long long time ago, in a cinema far far away…
I really liked it
Zack Snyder is the John Wu of being basic
I really like watchmen, 300 and actually like his take on dc personally.
Hes a director i want to see improve and want the next movie for rebel moon to be good. But he has a specific style and his movies can be hit or miss.
Id hope he sees the criticism of rebel moon and takes that into consideration and improves since its going to be i assume a trilogy.
Thanks for all your work in 2023 mate - Hail Robot Head!
I'm now CONVINCED that Netflix (and Hollywood) executives have absolutely no idea what constitutes a good script. No idea whatsoever. If they did, they would not greenlight and release such films. They say the "magic" is lost in Hollywood - it's not magic that's lost, its just a basic understanding of the craft!!!
I heard the following theory:
They first release this movie, then Zack says “oh poor me I was hindered in my great vision, here is the Snyder cut to make up for it” and then people watch the same movie but with a couple of minutes of extra slow-mo for barely any extra cost. Let people pay twice for the same movie seems like a winning strategy, especially if the people who didn’t see the first one then go see the “better” one.
And hey Zacky has more than one movie lined up like this, so they can pull it off with each movie!
Problem is that Zacky has pulled the “it wasn’t me I could do better” stunt several times now, he can’t hide behind it anymore.
The problem with Netflix is they feel the need to continually put out new content (either cycling older shows/movies into rotation OR creating new IPs). They want to keep their customers subscribed with something new to look forward to next month.
@@RealRabbit1124 blatantly false. For example Star Wars. The OT was influenced by multiple people and was saved multiple times because of it. During the Prequels too few people pushed back against George Lucas which caused it to be a lot worse.
And of course we have people like you who think “liberals” are to blame despite obvious signs that the people in charge just think there is more money to be made if they use tokenism and “liberal” things.
This had potential, but was complete trash. Made no sense at all, was confusing and wasted all the best characters. The review is hilarious and on target!
Not surprising when all the talented people have been MeTooed out of existence.
"I've been planning and working on this epic story for 30 years"
To quote Yoda: "How embarrassing" seriously, even as hype PR speak this is beyond embarrassing.
Funny thing is, "The Magnificent Seven In Space" has already been done. It's called "Battle Beyond the Stars" and it actually worked because the mercenaries had spaceships and fought the bad guys in space.
Yep! Some people seem not to recognise the plot of The Seven Samurai ...
I want to live forever!
Some of the hired heroes in Rebel Moon had ships,.. but they were all blown up in the very next scene after they joined the team.
You know your movie sucks when " Battle Beyond the Stars" is a better flick. BBS even had better characters. Space Cowboy, Clones in a flying Saucer, a Mercenary, A lizard Alien, Space hooker, and 2 heat generating aliens w/no ears. Even a Luke rip off, flying a ship with breasts! Hell, I'm just gonna rewatch that instead!
@pragmaticskeptic And, it was one of those Roger Corman, make a quick buck films. It's pretty pathetic when a Roger Corman film is unintentionally better than a modern day film, trying to take its self seriously.
Zack Snyder. It's not the 2000's anymore. Slo-mo's no longer are cool so stop putting it in every part of your movie!
Slo-mos are cool... is just knowing when to used it and not abuse of it
Or if he is gonna put them in hire the people who did the slow mo parts of dredd to do them so they at least look pretty.
I think they are cool or can be, they can definitely be overused though
No, the script just needs to be good. Slomo is not why the movie is bad. That’s just dumb.
I am now convinced that Zack Snyder is the Creed of filmmaking.
I can actually answer your question about how fast Vader would wipe this town out.
So in Force Unleashed 1, a Star Wars video game, the opening is Vader going through a primitive town of I think wookies. They have laser weapons, yeah, but other than that they're just a nowhere village without any heavy armaments.
Vader just strolls through this fucking town, slaughters everyone that gets in his way easily, finds a Jedi hiding in this village, kills his ass, then finds a force sensitive kid that he decides to raise as a Sith, who becomes Starkiller.
So yeah, Vader without any help would fucking depopulate this town.
Best part of that game 😁
TBF, everyone in that game is OP to the point of breaking canon.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Hoganply 1000% games do not count...
@@Hoganply Really the only bits that break canon are nearer the end.
MOSTLY it's Starkiller moving STAR DESTROYERS, but the opening scene is 100% true to form.
'Once she turns [her swords] on, they're kind of deadly.'
Yes, because swords are harmless otherwise, aren't they, Zack.
I'm not sure when "screaming" during fighting became cool, but it makes me think the directors are still living in an 1980s Karate class. If anything, screaming at your target would make them more perceptive of your actions; making them a lot more alert and responsive.
It's an anime trope that we've unfortunately absorbed into western cinema. Like replacing "vs" with "x".
The thing is, I could sort of buy it if the protagonist (I can't remember her name) hadn't been portrayed as a bad ass soldier.
She could have been some sort of ultrafast 'stab em up' type. Not strong enough to go up against bigger opponents but she could spider monkey all over them, turning them into sushi. Or if she had been a strategist, someone who worked out the best way to destroy the enemy.
However that would have required someone to say "Hang on, our short arse skinny woman cannot take on people two to three times her size, we need to think of something" That would have required better (or any) story telling and character development for *any* of the characters.
Yes, living in a 1980's karate class and not understanding there's a reason for the "screaming" which isn't technically screaming.
If Rebel Moon is movie that Snyder presented to Disney and they said "no". Then Disney gained a little of my respect, not much a little of that.
The only reason they would've said no is because he's a straight white male.
I’ve always wished for more sticks in sci-fi movies
"I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough...It's your father's baseball bat. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age. "
Remember the Marines in Alians , everyone had muscle, they looked like they can leave some hurt, I didn't get that impression from anyone here.
@@lazzi-droid1181 thats because they didn't have sticks in the Alien universe
The world isn't big enough for two hacks like Snyder, and Jar Jar Abrams to both exist in.
and Michael Bay?
@@robgreive3657I think he meant the world of starwars
I love the FX innovation of putting lights in prop blasters, something Doctor Who managed in the 70's
That was the main effect in Logan's run, innovation Zack!
We have Star Wars at home
What a way to kick off the New Year.
Hopefully Zack's resolution is to stop writing screenplays.
Or, maybe studios stop posting for his terrible scripts. I can't blame the man for getting studio imbeciles to pay for unimaginative crap.
when he's the head writer the movie comes out as shit. but when he directs a movie that's written by a better writer it may come out good.
I watched this show a few days ago and, until watching this video, I literally could not remember a thing about it. The biggest challenge for the writers had to be that they couldn't build up the importance of the characters or it would become screamingly obvious that this was just a trap since the planet they were defending had nothing else of value. But that meant that, when the bad guys finally sprung the trap, you didn't really care - especially once you realized that the good guys were collectively stupid enough to fall into such an obvious trap.
I think the biggest struggle for writers is they have no real experiences to pull from.
@@Brapbatt-YO That is definitely a problem. Spielberg, for example, had some real life family experiences that he could draw on when creating his stories - which he did and it added depth to the narrative. However, in this case, they were trapped by the storyline. The more depth they gave to the characters,, including all the reasons why they were wanted criminals, the more you would wonder why they were so stupid as to be drawn into an obvious trap. The writers should have spent more time studying storylines for movies of this genre that worked, like 49 Ronin. Spielberg, again, was able to put out great movies using the same basic storylines he had seen 1000 times as a kid. (Interestingly, Indiana Jones is rightly held up as a great example of entertaining movie-making even though the presence of Indiana Jones had no effect on the final outcome. It was just a fun ride.)
True!
Zack Snyder can watch a CZcams video on how to brush his teeth and somehow still get it wrong.
Zack Snyder is like a chef who can only put thousand island dressing and saurkraut into every dish he makes.
Watchmen happened to turn out to be a Reuben sandwich.
It would be eight minutes long with all the slo-mo
“Scared confusion bordering on tears” is an emotional state many moviegoers experience these days.
Snyder occupies a funny space for me as a director as he is responsible for some of my favorite and most hated films. When he does hit he hits hard , i think the trick is simply keeping him away from the scripts and not giving him unilateral control over a limitless budget.
To be fair, every director has their own really bad movies. Just look at about 30% of Spielberg’s movies.
The real problem with movie making is that you get big enough to a point where no one challenges you no matter how stupid it is. Directors are trying to be writers in the same movie and there needs to be heavy division between the 2. Look at how few movies turn out good that were written and directed by the same person. You need a balance where the director tells the writers their script is trash or the writers to tell the director the scene is all wrong. Hollywood has become so wrapped up in people trying to do everything that it’s all just become about ego more so then art.
I spent most of the movie wondering why the empire would care about a food supplier getting a handful of fighters you could wipe out from space and then the climax wasn't even on the moon! It felt pointless and like ai wrote it
One of the greatest comments that I've ever seen on Critical Drinker's channel said: Zack Snyder couldn't direct traffic. 😂😂😂
Is it me, or the "baddies" give off a huge "discount W40k Astra Militarum" impression?
Oh god... It just dawned on me that the story would make a lot more sense if the rebels were the antagonists to the farm moon and the empire was just ignoring it since they are basically space amish with no value, so the farmers need to recruit mercs to help them...
The problems are the actors have no charisma or acting skills and the rhythm of the movie is slow as fuck.
@@masterxk the problem is that we don't know jack shit about any of our merry mercs(except the protag) beyond the barest surface level information
"they killed my family"
"they killed my planet"
"they killed my soldiers"
"they threatened my planet"
jesus christ who tf cares! it all means nothing without context, what did they do, what were their planets like? why were their planets targeted in the first place, were they rebels or peaceful? we don't know
don't even get me started on the bloodaxe siblings, when the big guy died(forgot his name) i couldn't care less because i don't know shit about him why would i care? simply because he decided to help the poor farmers? that ain't good enough Zack!
There are plenty of other fails in this "world building". The best is that they have bots that can do all the farming and the technologically deficient (by choice) are NOT the ones you go to when you need to feed an entire homeworld. Nah, 10K bushels ought to do it. People do not eat more than a slice of bread... a month. Zach is a big idea guy that does not know the first foggiest thing about how anything actually works. He can only adapt good stories from other people.
@@magicalmagicmagician5223 when i watched it, it really felt like they were just getting the crew together on a checklist basis.
"Oh hey there random person, wanna join our group? Oh, you can do that? Nice, we really need that! Oh, your family died? Uhh... moving on! Hey there random..."
It really felt like a generic fetch quest, without them even showing why each person wants to fight (except the lead characters), just telling us that "this person lost this thing"
That’s interesting, so you’re saying you’d have 2 groups of “samurai” basically, one harassing the village and one formed to protect it. Basically Seven Samurai I guess.
I don’t think there’s any getting away from the Empire being central to the story though given this is a SW rip off.
I think a better way might have been ship vs ship, along the lines of master & commander, and just go full British Empire age of sail battle of wits
Wtf was that old school male vs multiple female boxers cutaway ? That shit was crazy lmfao.
You should look it up. It was a radio DJ stunt. Forget what the prize was, but he challenged any women to beat him in the boxing ring, and he knocked the crap out of all of them .. hilarious...
Ah, a Robot Head video just in time for the New Year. There's no better way to start 2024. And to think, I wrote all of that in Robot Head's voice!
Happy New Year! 🍻🍻
Haha that's how I read it too
It's hilarious how nobody compares him to Michael Bay anymore, but considering he's achieved his own entirely new level of just ridiculously over the top absurd dumbness..
I dislike Bay's work, but his films are technically competent and consistent. Zack's movies make you wonder if he ever even went to film school...this movie was amateurish and inconsistent in the extreme
Did you watch bayformers 4 and 5? The screen ratio was changing as scenes were playing out by the end!
@@StofenThe1st nah man, I really haven't been watching much of anything for years honestly except specific movies. I generally just game when it comes to screen time. I'm sure it was something special though lol
@@martymarl4602 for real though, definitely a better description of what I was basically getting at lol
My favorite bit in ZS 'Dawn of the Dead' remake is an obvious James Gunn addendum, the musical number of 'Down With The Sickness' as interpreted by Richard Cheese & Lounge Against The Machine.
During the film’s release, seniors at my high school were all going around fingersnapping and crooning “ohhah’ah’ah’ah” into our nonexistent mics. A sickness rose that year.
Such an eye rolling scene
I can't believe Zack did this. 😞
I can; whenever Snyder has full creative control over all aspects of a project he produces very pretty nonsensical trash.
I.. am... SO sick of Star Wars... ugh! As a child, it was my favorite. Now? It's a heap of garbage. :(
Same.
I've hated it since the very first movie. I'm in my 60s and still enjoy a good epic, fantasy, sci-fi or space movie, but Starwars was never anything more than a childish, toy selling vehicle. I despair at grown adults that take it so seriously. And of course it's now, devolved into a woke propaganda weapon like the rest of Hollywood's output.
Nurse!, I think it's time for my pills.
@@alihenderson5910 Star Wars being childish??? Lol! You just sound like a senile Star Wars hater. The movies now, I can agree are not good, but there still are so many complex and violent scenes that are definitely not meant for kids…it’s called star WARS for a reason…and the fact you’re claiming it’s been nothing but a childish toy making machine just shows how ignorant and envious you are about that franchise. Maybe you should actually WATCH the rest of the original movies and prequels before making such a bitchy comment.
I tried to watch this movie 4 times and fell asleep each time. I was having trouble sleeping last night and legitimately thought about trying to watch it AGAIN just so I could fall asleep more easily. Sad part is I don't want to think that but after several attempts, here we are.
Bro, don't feel bad. I was bored as hell too. Only, I just turned it off instead of falling asleep. Completely forgot about it, and a week later remembered this hyped up, boring movie I meant to finish. Then forgot about it a few more times before finally watching the rest. Total garbage movie.
That Large flag is practically 1:1 copy of Cadian Battle banner from Warhammer 40k
Honestly people keep saying they ripped off star wars, but to me this is nothing but 40k, even had the mechanicus, lasguns, and cadian guardsmen in there
@@UmbraPsi Wanted to write the same thing. This looks like they, uhm, "got inspired" by 40k to the same degree that if they got inspired SW they would have re-branded
"Lightsabers", "Stormtroopers" and "The Force" and the whole thing would look more like a SW-Fan Film. "No this is not Mickey Mouse...this is Ricky Rat!"
I watched army of the dead and felt somewhat entertained. I watched about 20 mins of rebel moon and thought, what did i do to deseve this?
'Conan's special needs cousin' - Damn dude, you killed him!
I've seen interviews with Zack, watched his special commentary on Watchmen, etc and I think he's a pretty cool dude. I'd love to see him succeed. But this ain't it.
I would have loved to have seen Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime strut up to the stage to accept a Tony Award for playing Orphan Annie.
But that wasn't destined to happen in this reality either.
@@jimjam51075i would watch that tbh... That would be a comedic triumph... They could even genderbend daddy warbucks into Paris hilton to make weirder...
He is good when the script is written for him
If someone wrote him a story and took away the ability to add slowmo in the edit, maybe something would come of it
Yah he nails the visuals though the slow mo was way over used ... but everything else needs to be done by someone else.
At least in Battle beyond the stars, the people the farmer enlisted had ships.
Yeah kind of surprised he didn't mention Battle Beyond the Stars
Or Three Amigos and A Bug's Life :)
@@vanillajack5925 I like these guys. They're funny guys.
Imagine a Zack Snyder film that doesn’t rely on the capabilities of the modern-day props department and hundreds of GGI experts. As found in the Magnificent 7? A movie that can be revisited because the story was supported by great actors who, as individuals, could carry a movie in their own right.
Honestly, going into this movie i was pretty sure it was going to be "7 Samurai/Magnificent 7 in space". Unfortunately, it's so much worse than either.
Reservoir Dogs? A few dudes in a warehouse lol
I mean, you're describing his remake of Dawn of the Dead. Everything in that movie is practical and it works *really* well; the trick is, like RobotHead said, to not let Snyder do the writing. The action scenes, pacing, and shots are all top notch, and the script is generally solid too.
The most interesting thing for me is that they still give him such huge budgets. How his last films failed to make a profit.
which movies are you talking about
@@abrahammwiinde735I’m guessing army of the dead, but idk how that did in box office
I'm sure there is always another reason, Covid, competition movies, time of year etc...
He's not getting shit after this. He has been able to pass off the blame for most of his major failures on to other people up to this point in his career. That's not the case with this film; it's all him and he'll take the fall for it.
The most interesting thing to me is that he was able to get Man of Steel after his three previous films bombed in a row. Outside of being good friends with Chris Nolan, I'm convinced this guy somehow got his hands on some sensitive and incriminating evidence on some of the power elite in Hollywood. It's the only thing that makes sense to me as why he keeps getting these budgets to make these ugly looking, over the top slo mo, lifeless character films. I felt like I was watching Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead through cataracts.
Still better than episodes 8 & 9 😂
LMFAO !!! Worse than Battlefield Earth or
Plan 9 from Outer Space ???
But yeah with $166m Snyder has NO excuses!
@@chasx7062 Battlefield Earth is unironically better 😂
@@chasx7062 Plan 9 at least had that it was so bad it was good factor going on.
And 7 in tbh
What fucking isn’t?
The part I hated most was just how many cuts there were it constantly jumped back and forth in action and conversation scenes oh and to lense flares so you get constant flash bangs
Here’s a word to describe Snyder films: miserable.
300 and man of steel are the exception tho
I liked most everything he did from Watchmen and prior. After that? Constant dumpster fires…
To me, the worst offense was using the hippogriff from Harry Potter and even including the "bow" before trying to ride it. I was laughing at how pathetic the rip-off was
Harry Potter didn't invent griffins, or hippogriffs y'know that right?
@@brentarellano46 yeah, but im pretty sure they invinted the "bow to the creature" bit that was directly stolen. Nice try tho.
@Generalfund plenty of stories have done that with different creatures and how else do you show submission to a big ass griffin that can rip you apart? Yell at it? Stand your ground and challenge it? Sit down? Lay down? Roll around and cart wheel like a circus performer?
@@brentarellano46 LOL he freaking BOWED exactly like in Harry Potter. He even made the same dumb speech about the animal must respect the rider! Bro - take the L, it was a pathetic and obvious ripoff and by denying it you look pathetic.
@@brentarellano46 - Bro, he ripped it off. It's gonna be ok man. I like Snyder, and he was very open about his plagarism for this series. He straight up took the idea from that scene in Harry Potter, and it's ok. As to why you want to die on this hill, I have no idea? But die on this hill you must, because you have no counter argument. And to your claim that "plenty of stories have done that with different creatures", I challenge you to give me ONE example that was just like the Harry Potter/Rebel Moon scenes if indeed there are several. Good luck sir.
Robot Head: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?"
Zack Snyder: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!"*
One of the most underrated female leads from the 90's was Meg Ryan's character from Courage Under Fire. Strong, fierce and intelligent without having to use physical force.
And 100% believable as a chopper pilot in a war. It's one of the silliest castings ever.
What?
Lois: I don't know doctor. Looking back, I think it may have been Disney Star Wars.
Doctor: Your husband murdered three children.
Eh, his movies are kinda bad in general, but he did Watchmen which I really love. Might be my favourite superhero movie now that I think about it.
I loved 300 at the time (in fairness, I was a teen), and I still adore Watchmen. Frank Miller did the heavy lifting for him on the former, and Alan Moore and David Gibbons on the latter, so Snyder had a pretty damn good head start. If he’d adapted a _particular_ Superman comic for Man of Steel, I’d probably have loved that too. Instead…
I like it too, but imo it wants to be The Boys, but takes itself far too seriously in the tone department to be sufficiently close to the source material.
@Hoganply Watchmen the movie came out before The Boys tv show though, no?
yeah, I couldn't finish this film... I think I made 1 hour in, realised it was "Seven Samurai in space but done badly" and turned it off.. shame, had been looking forward to see what this would be like... 30 years in the planning?!??!
my favorite part was showing a ship withstanding concentrated laser fire, then some guy with a stick jumps off a platform and easily penetrates the window to kill the only pilot. how did these space nazis take over the galaxy if simple debris could destroy their crafts?
She has the Disney Ahsoka face.... now she only has to cross her arms as well and it would be the perfect Ahsoka impression..... :P
The plot problems mentioned in this video for Rebel Moon could have been resolved with some pretty easy writing changes. Like this
The farming moon is under Imperial control with either a destroyer or Imperial outpost stationed on the moon. The villagers are providing the Empire with the grain (or whatever tribute the Empire wants) but are also doing some sneaky, illegal stuff under the Empire’s nose. The group that comes to rob them are some type of space pirate threatening to kill people in the village if the pirates don’t get a huge cut of the illegal activity.
This makes the situation where bombing the village from orbit impossible due to the Imperial presence while also makes the heroes have to avoid unnecessary Imperial entanglements. It could be revealed later that the space pirates are actually corrupt Imperials looking to make it rich through extortion.
Can you imagine the big twist being the protagonist secretly contacted the garrison commander and offered them a (much smaller) cut of the illegal activity to deal with the pirates? So all hope seems lost and then the Imperial ship that's been looming in the background the whole story annihilates the pirates in seconds? Cue the reveal of the protagonist's ploy under the reasonable logic of 'this is a dead end backwater assignment, the commander here is either a total screw up or got caught for corruption before.' so set up the deal. Boom, big SFX showcase twist at the end that uses the protagonist's ex-imperial background to meaningful effect.
@@Sorain1 That would be a pretty interesting outcome. There has to be multiple factions inside the Empire who aren’t loyal to the new regent. I’m surprised they didn’t go the direction of civil war and the current regent working to take control of the Empire. The best way to have gone with the story would have been to find a captain who isn’t a complete jerk and doesn’t support the cartoonish bad guys that seem to be in charge. Maybe even tie in that the captain served under the general before his fallout.
It would be nice to show in this universe that there are some decent people in the military. Plus they clearly want to do giant space battles, but to have those both sides need a fleet.
This script and plot needed a few more run through to have made it good. Also this would have been much better as a series instead of a single movie.
thank you for saving my time, I had watched about 10 minutes and decided to go to bed and come back later but thankfully I saw this and can move on to finding something else.
That moment when Kora walked up to Noble's table and said "Nobody puts baby in the corner" was such a powerful moment in the movie, but when they landed that dance move they worked on all summer I couldn't help but stand up and clap!!! Way to go Zack Snyder!!!
I can't believe anyone still allows Snyder to write anything. This movie was so poorly written. Know your limitations dude.
Mate, you’ve nailed this review… I wholeheartedly agree with everything that’s mentioned here there is no saving it and lord help us once the directors cut is released 😂
"It's a Zack Snyder film" was all you needed to say.
WarHammer 40K,Farscape,and Firefly has better characters and world building then Rebel Moon.
Dark matter had better characters and world building.
Space: Above and Beyond had better characters and world building.
@markcarpenter6020 Dark matter was excellent, sad it got cancelled
@@azzurribhoy5067 me too. They left it on a hell of a cliffhanger.. but after the way Netflix did season 3(or 4) of Helsing (not the anime). Maybe it's best it ended the way it did. In that at the start of the new season they threw out everything that had been set up to that point and basically sidelined or killed almost all the original cast to suddenly bring in a bunch of new(even more diverse) characters.
I have to admit I watched the first 30 minutes of Rebel Moon then changed channels and watched an ASYLUM MOVIE!
How hilarious, just a few days ago I've rewached the Seven Samurai and the Magnificent Seven - these movies will never get old or boring.
How come, no one in nowadays is able to reach that level? With better technology, a multiple more cash ...
Except Godzilla: Minus One. I've watched it in a theater, and I was amazed that this movie was done recently - it seems like it's still possible to produce good story, with likable characters that we're caring about, which do not cost a leg and an arm to the producers budget.
The answer to your question lies within the Lord of the Rings trilogy compared to The Hobbit trilogy.
Even Shrek has a better story and characters than most of these movies now
I can't believe I've seen as many Sack Snyder movies as I have. It was a mistake, I assure you.
I liked 300 and Watchmen. That's about it.
Corman's low-budget "Battle Beyond the Stars" (1980) actually was a magnificent seven sci-fi story. And it is way better than Rebel Moon, in every way.
I can still recall the seven protagonists, due to them having vastly different personalities and motivations. Robert Vaughn's super wealthy assassin joining up for a bed and a hot meal. And the Nestor clones joins up to avoid being "bored to death". They were memorable, nothing like the drab, boring, default npc's in Rebel Moon. Plus a great OST by James Horner.
I've rarely laughed so much at characters saying 'they killed my entire family' because all the way through my girlfriend was like 'let me guess... they killed their entire family' and was immediately proved correct
It would have been a nice change if one of the characters had said "Nah, the empire has never done anything bad to me or mine. I just like killing people and setting sh*t on fire"
@@ptonpc "Never been on the moral high ground before, and fighting unarmed villagers is boring. I'm in!"
@@Sorain1"Cry havoc and unleash the hamsters of mild annoyance!"
I completely agree with your review. This movie was over two hours, Snyder had time to tell a story and make characters at least slightly interesting, and he completely failed to do that. You don't NEED a three hour director's cut to do that. And yeah, unless these 7 "rebels" recruit hundreds of more people and a whole fleet of ships, I don't know what the hell they are supposed to do against a dreadnaught battleship that can nuke them from orbit. The lack of logic here is astounding.
Your reviews ALWAYS more entertaining than the product. Happy New Year
My parents started describing this movie "evil empire takes a village's grain and they fight back." I said it sound like the plot of A Bug's Life.
They are desperate to get grain, yet destroyed an entire planet that is flush in food later in the same movie. Yeah, they also have zero radio communication throughout the movie. At all.
Thankyou for sacrificing your braincells so we don't have too. Truly one of the movies ever made.
Thank you for reviewing this movie I’ve never heard of, have already forgotten about and will never watch Robot Head.
"There's a lot of slow motion. The episodes were running up to 8 minutes under, the only way to stretch them out was with slow motion. We tried to keep the slow motion away from the dialogue as much as possible but anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion" - Dean Learner - Garth Marenghi's Dark Place.
I love how much I'm seeing people reference this show in the last few years.
I loved it way back when I watched it in Peru in the 80's. @@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971
Too bad Zack has never seen it I could use me some slow mo Dean Learner shotgun action!
I love the scene at the end when Kora inverted her F-14 and gave Atticus the middle finger while Goose took a polaroid of the defeated sadistic admiral. Looking forward to part two when they get sent to Top Gun because Cougar turned in his wings!
Another perfectly observed review, sir. Thank goodness for my back catalogue of pre-2000's Movies!
Wait, they don't have basements in Australia?? Is it because of topography, geololgy, or because you don't want to double your living space at minimal building cost?
Do you know anything about Australian wildlife? That would be my bet for the reason.
I don’t know about that but we have them in New Zealand.
Creepers from Minecraft actually spawn underground in Australia, so that's why they don't have basements there because the wildlife is so deadly
"Once she turns them on they're kind of deadly." Right. Unlike those plain old steel swords that aren't dangerous at all. It's as dangerous as a feather. Uma Thurman was just lucky in 'Kill Bill' that the Crazy 88 were all really ticklish or she'd have been in real trouble.
For how bad of a movie it was. We can all respect Snyder for saying “F*ck you Disney I’m doing it anyway!”
Not really.
No. What would be respectable of Snyder is him becoming self-aware.
No respect for one of the most over-hype director today...Wish he would just do music videos.
Refusing to add to the biggest pile of poo on the farm by making your own pile of poo at the edge of the farm isn't really much of a protest.
It's just spreading more poo everywhere.
Not really, when it flops hard Netflix will need to recoup the money by raising subscriptions or not making other content (which may have been better).
I watched this with the assumption that the tiny girl had strength enhancements (bionic, drug, genetic or chipped🤷♂️)and the scenes showing this had been deleted. That added to the fact that I have very low expectations watching all movies these days added up to be an enjoyable film.
BTW the enhancements paralysed her face….
I was thinking about this while delivering some brownies to the porcelain god, and I concluded that even with supernatural or enhanced strength, the muscles will still tear and heal and grow.
Superman is strong because of the sun and gravity, but he's still built like a truck. Why? Because he pushes himself to the limits, this his muscle fibers do what they do.
It's like dudes on tren; they don't just get bigger because tren, like ignorant folk think. They still train hard. Tren, steroids, whatever, just allows them to heal faster so they can push harder.
The only exception would be cybernetic bodies, like Alita in Battle Angel. She's tiny, but her body is completely cybernetic and all the strength comes from that body combined with her martial art and experience/training.
Did he pitch this idea before Kathleen Kennedy? I'm surprised she would pass on this cuz it seems perfect for today's lucus film.
I pressume so given they were entertaining Mangold and even Trank for projects involving Fett and Obi-Wan in the early days.
seeing that spent 30 years writing the same script and a new hope and 7 samurai, it's not surprising they passed. They must have wondered what dr*g he was on
Every scene the protagonist is fighting she screams for no reason. Now I can’t unsee it
You just have to love "she fights a lot without turning them on, because once she does, they're kind of deadly". Not like ordinary swords are considered a non-lethal option.
Yeah, that Dawn Of The Dead movie is bloody amazing. That security guard dude(I can relate) with the handlebar mustache is great
you forgot the 1980 - 'Battle Beyond the Stars' as a seven samurai remake! better than RM too!
Bingo.
7:07 "Conan" That was my first thought too. Though I was thinking Dollar Tree Conan. 🤣
Fully agree, once Mary Sue started kicking ass it was turn off and delete the torrent.
It also kind of reminds me of "Battle Beyond the Stars" which happens to be a little bit better story wise.
Have you ever heard of Seven Samurai?
@cooljackster7390 yes I have and yes I'm aware that it's the source for Battle Beyond the Stars
Hint, watch the movie on 2x speed. That way the slo-mo will still be 0.25x but at least you get faster to the next action scene. Yeah it's SLOOOW... During the entire movie I felt like... this is a FANTASY COMIC BOOK. The looks, the dialogue, the story, the pacing... this should have been still images in a fantasy graphic novel, there was literally nothing sci-fi about it. Also... I don't want to script-doctor myself to the end of everything Hollywood puts out. There's a ton of great writers! Give them the task! It's such a laughably small amount of money to write a good movie, and can mean the difference between failure and success for your $200M movie!
SPOILERS BELOW
- does Zack know that if the moon is that close to the planet, everyone would die from radiation? How is this a sci-fi, not even Star Wars did this.
- why does the village elder lie to the admiral about after he says they'll give them what they want?
- why can a 40kg / 90 lbs girl beat up a dozen armed (!) men by hand?
- why do the soldiers just watch each other go at her to get killed one by one instead of shooting her?
- how does the fleet not know their soldiers at the village have been exterminated on day one?
- why is it OK for us to see the gryphon gut her keeper, even though he just (conveniently) handed over chippendale, in a suprisingly honest bet keeping his word?
- what do you think will happen to the chippendale's soulmate gryphon after she did that, and they leave the planet? How should we feel about that?
- why does the samurai woman kill the spider when the little girl is already safe, and it's heavily implied the spider has the moral high ground?
- Why are the rebels OK with the general who hunted them? The general joins because his troops were killed, he's loyal to his men, their enemies.
- why is the alien king OK with the rebels leaving, when we all know the moment the team lands, they will get destroyed without help? Why don't they leave?
- Does Zack understand we immediately knew the protagonist girl is being betrayed the moment she falls for the sweet talking, knowingly backstabbing thief?
- Why is the farmer able to release protagonist girl from the holding crucifix? Why would they give him the tool if he could do that?
- Why is a huge cruiser's gunner sitting outside the hull?
- Why does the gunner control the fkin ship's thrusters?
...I could like... figure out some bs in my head to 'fix' the script on the fly, but it's so hard to watch movies like this.
If this was Warhammer 40k, the imperium would have landed and turned them all into servitors. Arguably more devastating than exterminatus
"How'd you beat up a bunch of clearly stronger people?"
"Nanno machines son!"
I live in an age where they make movies....I did
Well he does know how to make things look good. That is always his strong point ... just he needs more than that ... much more. The lead effectively had superhuman strength. I mean they could have made those scenes work with a better fight coordinator. It wouldn't take much ... just use other techniques that are not requiring strength. At one point she blocks two different hits at once without any resistance. You can get away with a little of that in movies of course but it was too extreme it kicked you out of the film. Maybe if she had cybernetic limbs or something it would have worked. But without reason why she appeared to have superhuman strength based on her size it just got distracting. Yah that stuck out with me on "the plan" let's gather a handful of bad asses and one beta male and some how fight off a ship in orbit where they could just bomb them from orbit like they actually did in the film on another planet.
Right? The lead chick (I can’t remember her name) was basically a superhero. In the bar fight scene the dude with twice her body mass punches an alien to no effect. The tiny woman hits the alien and he’s flying across the room. Plus she’s a “general” at like 26. Also, why do people think that being a general makes you good at fighting? Generals are mostly old and fat. Good at organising things, not at combat.
Exactly. But that would have required writing abilities.
Rebel Moon is a copy of Seven Samurai (1954) by Akira Kurozawa with a sprinkle of space fantasy, sci fi, and robots. And yes... Seven Samurai is much better. Also Samurai 7 (2004) anime series. I highly suggest you watch em. Seven Samurai is a cinematic masterpiece.
I can believe it's not butter though, because margarine has a longer shelf life.
Happy new year
Happy New Year! 🍻
@@RobotHead You too
Zack's movies have always relied a lot on visuals, and the stories end up somewhat flimsy. Still, they were entertaining enough. I don't know what happened to him, lately he hasn't been doing that well.
Disney's advertisements massively increased in the last months in public media (like CZcams ads and TV). Which imho shows they are not satisfied with subscription numbers 😮
Super early on the main character started to just... state all of her character flaws and themes out loud in her house alone with the only character who already knows who she is. Had to turn it off right there, not even 20 minutes in, because the "tell don't show" was so violent
I Love the moment when Duke used the 'Power' to blow up the Murder Sun.
Zac needs to retire.
This was the first movie that really put me to sleep. Like i watched 5 minutes and just booked it. That nearly never happens.
Happy New Year all!
Thanks Robot Head for a great 2023, looking forward to your 2024!🤩
Can't wait for the extended cut.
Lol
Wait, I thought that's why he did a part 1? Does that mean each part will have an extended cut?
@@LEPrecon007 yes, because Snyder wanted edgy and Netflix was chasing a younger audience for 'franchise' reason. So the original release of both parts is going to be the pg-13 version, then there's going to be a 'directors cut' with more sex, violence, and scenes that uncomfortable try and merge the two.... because Zack Snyder in mentally still 12 and thinks 'mature' is when you say 'fuck' a lot in a movie....
It wasn't the best film I've seen, but i have also seen worse. It's a shame that a lot of films have become like this. In my opinion, they're no longer good enough to bother going to the cinema for.
"The Bride" turned into a Tremors worm and moved through dirt like it was styrofoam after punching her way out of being buried alive.
I'm glad that one thing ruined it for you entirely.
Happy New Year RobotHead!