How LORDE Changed Pop Music
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Time Magazine called Lorde one of the most influential teenagers in the world.
Five years ago, ‘Royals’ sat atop the Billboard Hot 100 overtaking artists like Katy Perry (Roar), Miley Cyrus (Wrecking Ball), Lady Gaga (Applause) and Britney Spears (Work Bitch) -- some of the most prominent female pop artists of the late 2000s.
‘Royals’ sounded nothing like it’s competitors, breaking all of the rules with a significantly slower tempo, unique melodic structure and Lorde’s subdued vocals.
Her style would mark a shift in the pop landscape delivering a voice with substance among what Dave Grohl considers “stripper pop.” When Lorde arrived on the airwaves, pop radio would never be the same. And that might sound like an exaggeration until you listen a little closer. This is how Lorde’s Royals changed pop music.
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Can Lorde sing?
Yes, Lorde can sing! Lorde is an alto, the lowest register for female voices. However on Royals she kicks it up a notch and sings at the mezzo-soprano level.
Did Lorde write Royals?
Lorde claims to have written Royals in 30 minutes when she was about 15. She took inspiration from the luxurious lifestyles portrayed in a lot of pop music. She drew inspiration from Lana Del Rey and Kanye West and Jay-Z’s Watch The Throne project.
Can Lorde see music?
Again Lorde claims that she can see sound/music and they appear in different colours. She says ‘Royals’ appears as gold and ‘Green Light’... well as green.
Did Lorde sing for South Park?
No. Sia has actually confirmed that it was her who sang in South Park’s parody episodes of Lorde.
I AM LORDE. YA YA YA.
#Lorde #Royals #Middle8
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I do not own any of the videos or music used in this video. They are used for education and discussion purposes.
Lorde is the OG Billie Eilish. By that I mean Lorde was the one who really showed what anti-pop is.
Asian Contemplation Lana was, she walked so that lorde and Billie could run
@@ninawallen9039 Lana and Lorde appeared almost at the same time.
Billie is overrated af
nina wallen I love lorde Lana and Billie but we can’t forget björks impact, leagues ahead of her time
Depends on how far you go back. It’s a cycle that has gone on since pop became a ‘style’ on top of just having mass appeal. All pop music is informed by that which came before.
Even bowie said it, and he was absolutely right.
I still think she completely deserved the Grammy for Melodrama.
Yeah, unfortunately Grammy can't see that
Grammys don't mean anything anymore.
I mean Florence Welch lost to Taylor Swift . . . FOR POP VOCAL ALBUM
First, how does that woman lose to ANYONE vocally? Secondly, every other category she was in was rock except that one?
@@iTeacupPanda Pop Vocal Album is awarded to one of the "albums containing at least 51% playing time of newly recorded pop vocal tracks" nominated, and not necessarily the best vocally but the _best_ album in that category (which of course is voted on and very subjective)
@I'm Stuck So essentially that category is just for . . . new music. Almost every album is over 51% playing time. Even still the fact that Taylor could beat Florence at . . . anything other than . . . being caught lying, using white privilage and manipulating narratives? Unghh, hard to swallow subjective or not. :P
@Miguel . . . Really? . . Is it? I mean, I understand if you love it that is great. But, I love a lot of things and I know they're not necessarily great. That album was super commercial and again . . . like reading a 15 year old girl's diary.
" Shake It Off " is annoying beyond belief. " Welcome To New York " sounds like it belongs in a bland commercial or Clair's. " Bad Blood " is a good instrumental but the lyrics are garbage. Honestly all three of these songs and a few others have that major writing issue.
The only decent song is " Wildest Dreams " and maybe " Style " , the rest and no dig? They're more for people under the age of 15 or at least that is who it mostly appeals to sound wise and an occasional track or two that mom doesn't roll her eyes at in the car and puts up with and starts liking after the fifth time of it playing or so.
When thinking of it that way I'd hardly call it an impressive body of work when there are only 2 maybe 3 tracks unless you're a fan that are semi-decent and even then I don't know that non fans would go out of their way to search for them to listen to. There isn't a single track that does something DIFFERENT.
I did notice a shift with minimalism being more of a trend but I didnt notice Lorde started the shift, very neat!
Prince did minimalism in the 80s
@@skyblazeeterno cool
That's because she didn't, take somebody that I used to know and we are young, two of the biggest hits from the year before that did it before her.
Kanye West 808's and heartbreak - 2008 started the shift
I y a n a Jhene Aiko was before Lorde
People don't remember that before Lorde - Royals came out, pop music was all about going to the club, partying, and electronic-heavy.
Yeah, I really miss that time, the music of now is boring and trashy
@@tarou8004 Me too man, I still listen to Black Eyed Peas, Flo Rida, Old Calvin Harris, and even fucking Taio Cruz
@@joeburreaux7953 Same, I find myself listening to all kinds of music before 2013 than newer songs
Well the point of Royals was about how "unrelatable" music was, like art used to be in the past. Many classic novels were relatable and real. Royals was her reaction to the current trends.
AND NOW RARE BY SELENA GOMEZ IS HEAVILY INSPIRED BY LORDE'S SOUND
you could say that "Somebody That I Used To Know" by Gotye had a similar "avant garde" feel , and had a great impact on pop music
The entire Bat for Lashes discography is similar to Royals. Bat for Lashes released the debut album in 2006 - so how Royals changed pop music. I guess being number one.
He never said it wasn't around before, he said it wasn't BIG before.
How is it avant garde? Nothing was avant garde about it.
Do you see what kind of impact Nickelback has had into rock music? There has been so many rock bands after they released their debut album. And Rebecca Black? After Friday we have had so many pop stars!
Somebody That I Used To Know definitely had a melancholy vibe with the happy Baa Baa Black Sheep melody vs the sad lyrics, and had an avant garde video too,
But it didn’t have the same smokey singing style that Royals set up for the rest of the decade to follow, nor did it have the low-key nature of Royals imo with the Goyte track being minimalistic for the most part but then getting rather climactic towards the end with the layering of the vocal harmonies & crescendo. Plus it’s lyrics were sentimental like a lot of Pop songs but not really the satirical type like Lorde’s one.
Not hating on Goyte of course and i do agree they’re both similar with Royals being by no means the first song ever to have the characteristics it possesses, but it’s hard to pick on pop songs since Somebody That I Used To Know which sound similar to it, whereas with Royals you can pick out several that took influence from it as well as several young millennials singers with minimalistic ‘Tumblr’ aesthetics, 80s influenced sound, smokey voices & slight social commentary in between their lyrics too.
It’s like one could also point to Fun - We Are Young for another 80s influenced track with simple percussion elements driving the track & anthemic lyrics intended to appeal to a generation of the audience, but I still wouldn’t say that defined the entire decade of pop either.
I love Lorde. And yes she went against mainstream pop norms of 2013, but now, in 2018, her style has been copied by almost all the popular artists 1,000 times over and is now a part of mainstream pop. It’s no longer a cool, one of a kind, awesome, and original style; it’s now an overused, overrated, overdone, overplayed, and all too familiar style. Few artists genuinely succeed at making truly amazing music in this style today. And Lorde is one of them.
Went against mainstream pop norms? That's odd, because a lot of the biggest hits from the year before have very similar vibes, take somebody that I used to know, and we are young for example.
@@joewhite4456 Well… I would argue that isn't the case. Lorde, especially with Royals, has more of a hip-hop feel to it, while those songs didn't. What was copied was that aesthetic for the most part as you see the newer form of hip-hop everywhere with this minimalism in mind.
stop bitching if you like a music just listen. boo hoo it's not cool anymore... cringe ass
cringe ass hipster , bohoo other people like it now so it's not cool anymore
But that is the problem. If you build your music on "it's not like the rest", it loses all charm once all the rest copies that style.
"...the dry sounds of her whisper singing, is attractive. It's intimate, sexy, and heartbreaking."
*FBI OPEN UP*
thirst lol
It's sleep-inducing, actually. Not sexy at all. Sounded like she's dying or falling asleep.
@@GVike you need love in your life
@@GVike you need help.
Lorde is the future of music
Her.. her name's not.. Lorde..? I am thoroughly shaken wow
No, her real name is Randy.
Her name is cocaine
@@rr.5205 😂 Right?
It is Randy Marsh from Colorado.
My dad thought it seemed arrogant when he found out her real name is'nt Lorde,but I don't agree.
Dave Grohl coining it "stripper pop" is golden lmao
Joey Howard
Only Dave smh 😂
He's not wrong.
where does he say that?
A minute in to the video man. Press play and listen??
It's a perfect description.
Pure Heroine and Melodrama will always be my favorite album of all time
Couldn't choose which is better
so true haha
Still listen to both non stop
mee too
Both of them are pure gold 💖💖
Pure Heroine's better... Duh
Thanks New Zealand for a game changing artist
lambdatau118ful she could buy like 3 times as many mince and cheese pies as the rest of us!
New Zealand never fails at producing unique stuff. I wonder why?
@@80s_graffiti there’s also some mean underground shit like Imugi & some of the shit Tom Scott has done like @peace
it's so bizarre to hear these kind of stories when you live literally meters away from Lorde. shes just so down to earth, best kid out there. Great vid!
Say her: "Hi, Randy". She'll understand.
Omg you’re so lucky
Lucky!
You live in South Park?
Royals changed the sound of pop music, but it didn't change the core of pop music, which is using a formula over and over again until people finally get sick of it.
i think that is and always will be the core of pop music. changing that basically punts it into another genre
oof tea
@@LilithNobody i disagree with that in a general sense, but for pop particularly, i would argue that the basic structure of pop allows enough freedom for plenty of art to be created. The only problem is that most never find it.
even more ironic is that Lordes first album is basically 10 or 12 below average variations of Royals. changed pop...gtfo
Implying anything will ever change that,it's just the trends that change
It's a good day when your fav channel makes a vid on your fav artist. Lorde is absolutely incredible in her music, especially with her album Melodrama. That stuff never gets old for me
Melodrama felt a little more pop for me (excluding "Liability"). I am still on the fence about it. I would like to see a video comparing both albums.
All that music is fuckin garbage dude
It's definitely more pop but I think lyrically it's on a whole other level. From Supercut (my fav) to Liability to Writer in the Dark and so on, there are just so many lines that are masterfully written. She's just spilling her guts out in song after song about heartbreak and such and it resonated with me personally as it reminded me of how I felt in years past but wasn't able to explain it. It was personally my album of the year (if anyone cares to know)
Avatar The last air bender apparently you do you damn snowflake ❄️ as well as the person who liked my previous comment hehe. She still trash tho 😆
Avatar The last air bender nobody asked for your opinion but you gave it anyway so what makes yours better than mine? Her music is factory made, superficial bullshit made to brainwash the masses that she most definitely did not have anything to do with making which is why she’ll be forgotten and is no longer even big. Not trying to burst your bubble but you’re defending someone you don’t even know like she’s your lord and savior. All she is is a commodity that sings what’s in front of her and then when she’s not making them as much money as she was then she’s hung out to dry like the other has been. She’s trash. FAX
when i heard royals for the first time, it was really something else. got hooked instantly
If you like silence, I can understand why you got hooked.
@@GVike your little attempt at throwing shade makes me think you're the one who should be silenced.
She's actually a guy called Randy who lives and comes from South Park, Colarado
Ya ya ya
I saw him at the Pepsi Center
Lucky Medic what are they talking about I always see this comments in every video can you explain to me
@@ooooo- In an episode of a show called, "South Park", it turns out that Lorde is actually a man by the name of Randy Marsh. Its a bit more than that, but that's the basics.
Omfg this comment made me laugh out so loud, and ik ppl always write this while having a straight face but i scared my cat away when i started laughing
Tbh she did better than billie eilish at her age 5 years ago
Billie is good but Lorde is like on a whole other level
Victoria Sepúlveda IMO i feel like Billie is way overrated
yeah, I've been thinking that lately. She is cute, has a cute voice and "original" style. Other than that, I'm waiting for her debut album, but so far she's not THAT good
I don't get the hype for Billie or Melanie Martinez.
Honestly, Melanie is just regurgitating what Kerli did in her earlier work with a breathier vocal and child fetishism. But, people live for it.
At least Billie isn't relying on a gimmick.
@Xd25 lol Just because you like someone and want to hear more about them does NOT mean they are underrated. I'm sorry. For her level of talent she is overrated.
Can she sing? She is okay. I give her a solid C to C+ on a good day. What is her writing at? It's inconsistant and she has regressed due to relying on her child fetishizing baby gimmick.
Third thing is, she is kind of a bitch and thinks too highly of herself and is seemingly rude to her fans. She also seems to think she contributes mote to music than she does. The truth is that out of young female artists in the genre she is in? She is bringing less to the table BY FAR than Aurora or Lorde . Billie is just starting and so gets a little more of a pass and Halsey she is on par with but Halsey also gets a lot of hate and called out on her superficial Tumblr Princess lyricism and try hard Indie wannabe stylism.
Does she deserve more popularity and praise than Lorde or Aurora? No. Does Lorde deserve more popularity and praise than Florence, Marina and Lana? No. Yet somehow Melanie is getting more views and album sales than all of them from a small to even a large margin.
When the truth is out of female " indie " artists? Talent wise? She is in the bottom 3. There is no reason why she should be outselling women who are 3-4 x more talented than her just because she can polish up what Kerli did 8 or 9 years ago and pretend it's new and Tubmlr eats it up. o.O
Royals seemed like the mocking, radio friendly choice. heartbreaking? No
Tennis Court. now THATS heartbreaking
Tennis Court is my favourite Lorde song. Something about the "don't you think that it's boring how people talk?" opening is so powerful, and that songs feels like a conversation. I also think Ribs & 400 Lux are really strong songs, she manages to capture feelings & moods so well
For me, writer in the dark is heartbreaking, I had like chills when I heard it for the first 100 times
Lorde walked so Billie Eylish could run
Lana too
Your name confused the fuck out of me! XD
Freelancer_Krowe I guess that’s the point lol
@@raimondsdruva8549 that's mean. You may not like her, but whorish? And why don't you like her, cause your being mean.
@@mynameisdisgustdandpeoplel1475 because there is a video with her and 3 black guys lol xD xD What would you call that ? xD
I was 13 when this came out and I feel like this really started my whole interest in pop music. The artists (especially female artists) that were around back then didn't seem relatable at all to a 13-year-old, and coming from a family of music teachers and having grown up on classical music it all seemed way too excessive and vain to me. But Lorde was something so interesting and different and she was the first female artist I knew of that kind of presented herself more through her personality and music than her gender and sexuality? I feel like she brought a whole new kind of representation in the business and paved way for other up-and-coming female artists. I don't know, I definitely feel like Pure Heroine was in a way the start of the 2010s pop era and it's still one of my favorite albums ever.
I still love her Tennis Court song❤❤
Omg we’re the same age
I was like 7
It was the opposite for me, thanks to her pop music is ruined and I lost interest in new music ever since
Royals was not the start of the 2010s era.
It was the start of the mid-late 2010s era
Damn. That was a really smooth transition over to your sponsor
I know right!
Daniel Sandberg, whattransitionwhere? 👀
Who gives a fuck
I hate it
Daniel Sandberg so fucking smooth 😭😭😭
Didn't David Bowie said she is like the future of music? If that's true I agree with him. Melodrama is a really good fucking album BTW
Right? I'm surprised it didnt win album of the year at the grammys
I think he called it a bit early, but he ended up being right to a certain degree. She ended up becoming who she was trying to be in her debut and humbled herself a bit I think going to see Florence + the Machine back to back mellowed her out.
Celeste Gonzalez I don’t know what’s wrong with me but I love Lorde but I haven’t felt the album that much😩
Blackstar was also inspired by Death Grips so that's a pretty wild diverse taste
@@janaebrionna same
I remember I worked at Starbucks when this was released , on busy days we would play this song on repeat while making fraps n lattes .... good times
I initially hated that song when I was younger, but then I also hated 'somebody that I used to know' 😂damn I was a horrible song critique
Same
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same
@Minami Uchida Gotye is Belgian-Australian. Kimbra is Kiwi though
I agree with this video. She’s young yet poetic and precocious and she really did influence the music industry. I think she’ll be one of the artists that people will never forget.
Highly doubt that. She's as memorable as a Snickers bar somebody has on their way to work and throws away the wrapper.
one of the artists that people will never forget. ---- LOL its 2018 and Lorde was a one hit wonder with Royals
She's the kind of artist people hear their one popular song ever and think "oh, I remember that song, who sung it again?"
Every time I listen to this song, I think about how she took something near completely unrelateable for many of us (the maximalist and hedonistic lyrical themes in the pop and hip-hop scene of that time) into something pretty much everyone can relate by criticizing it and being upfront about how she's never had any of those experiences as a teenager from New Zealand. It reminds me of this quote from her I read once and had to look up:
"I definitely wrote 'Royals' with a lightness in mind….I was definitely poking fun at a lot of things that people take to be normal. I was listening to a lot of hip-hop and I kind of started to realize that to be cool in hip-hop, you have to have that sort of car and drink that sort of vodka and have that sort of watch, and I was like, 'I’ve literally never seen one of those watches in my entire life.'"
Sums up the whole thing very well. Another quote I found while looking up the last one:
"Around the middle of last year I started listening to a lot of rap, like Nicki Minaj and Drake, as well as pop singers like Lana Del Rey. They all sing about such opulence, stuff that just didn’t relate to me-or anyone that I knew. I began thinking, “How are we listening to this? It’s completely irrelevant.”
NOPE.
What Lorde did was tap into a group of people who appreciate relatable lyrics in the pop genre. (Sort of like how Adele came about.) I myself dont like to hear what artist have to say but how I interpret the sound of a song.
But I love me songs both by Lana Del Rey and Lorde lmao
Maybe also because with Lana it seems like she is throwing us the * aesthetic * of a rich lifestyle, the daydream of it. Not the reality. Idk. I just never take have taken any of her "Sugar Daddy + Jewellery + Romance" stuff seriously, it has always seemed somewhat satirical to me.
IDK I do only mind lord and Lana but this era in music is very lack lusting and unreletable and also intolerable for me it's so annoying I really hate dark pop with passion along with indie so
Based - Lorde's based.
4:26 did she just yeet the nastiest dab in mankind?
fuck
Cringe
Iconic. Everyone who disagree are wrong.
Woah this comment is so thoroughly 2018. Someone should put it in a museum
kuroko pfp
Lorde's vocals are so unique. She has a powerfuo voice yet melancholic and quiet. She doesn't need to whisper to sound like that unlike some on the artists today who try to follow her style.
Billie eilish
Lana Del Rey walked so Lorde could run
Lana walked because she doesn't believe in sweating and now Lana Del Rey doesn't walk, because the gays carry her.
iTeacupPanda yes we do
Anthony Sanchez Frown crowns in the air like we just don't care. :B
iTeacupPanda sis snapped 🤠😜🤙🏽
exactly, without born to die, we wouldnt have the instrumental or chorus for tennis court!
I don't listen to pop, but I could listen to Lorde all day long
Big Daddy Toyota Corola alternative/indie pop >>>>>
Because she's not entirely pop
Her album Melodrama was on a whole new level of WOW
2013 was literally the weirdest year in music, in all senses
What makes you say are think that explain
Nothing in the 2010s mainstream has been worth shit... the industry is too corporate. It's not about the music at all.
@@GVike I've never said it in the positive sense, even if I do think there were highlights. Like, remember the miley cyrus drama?
@@jamorianlockett4604 just go look at at the 4 most popular song of that year
#4 : Harlem Shake by Bauuer : a novelty EDM song popularized by Filthy Frank
#3 : Radioactive by Imagine Dragons : a dubstep alternative rock song about nuclear holocaust
#2 : Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke ft. T.I & Pharrell Williams : a song advocating date rape
#1 : Thrift Shop by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis ft. Wanz : a song advocating thrift shopping
I have a newfound respect for this song. I always kinda dismissed it as another pop song, but this video has convinced me to give it another chance
Royals was one of those show-stopping songs where i actually had to pull over to the side of the road the first time i heard it... Lorde hasn't matched it with her newer material though... I'd be honored if some fans of music analysis would check out my acoustic piano & vocal covers of PURPLE RAIN by Prince and PRAYING FOR TIME by George Michael on my channel in tribute to 2 of the greatest singer-songwriters of all time. Live acoustic with no autotune or digital editing. Thanks and RESPECT to the legends. Can't wait to see the movie.
Same
I prefer the pop goes punk cover
me too! I actually completely forgot about it and this has been a nice reminder of a really amazing song for me
I never liked it when it come out but more recently I realized the lyrics and simplicity are pretty good.. and apparently more original than I thought. Plus she only has two songwriting credits on the track, her and her producer Joel Little. That's far less than most pop stars.
Please do a video on Melodrama, it REALLY took me by surprise
I just don't get all the praise Melodrama has been getting. I tried listening to it but really just get a meh reaction.
@Citzby Same! I thought _Pure Heroine_ was an impressive debut album, but ultimately came up feeling not fully realized. _Melodrama,_ by contrast, hits the ground running and carries Lorde's blossoming maturity into adulthood all the way through with excellent momentum. Definitely my favourite pop album of 2017.
Justice Muffins did you listened to Melodrama more than once?
It's an amazing album to listen high af, songs like the louvre and writer in the dark....damn they cause something deep...
@@alanbennett4017 i got the same rxn the first time try listening to it again
Royals will always be one of my favourite songs along with someobody i used to know 😩❤️
Listen the her other songs. Like homemade dynamite, green light, glory and gore, perfect places, writer in the dark, tennis court, and million dollar bills
@@ah7389 Buzzcut Season Is one of her best songs, but all her songs are great
" Full bodied over the top sounds" .... That is the problem I have with vocal talent shows like the voice and A G T. It seems as though female vocalists think that's the only acceptable sound that is equal to having talent. I adore a Stevie Nicks or Janis or Courtney, (and more, obviously), who sing with the rasp and pain of an actual living person with a history and a struggle.
There is no substance to the perfect, shiny, pop flawless big vocal style. The flaws are what has always made great vocalists stand out.
I really like your comment! And same I’d love to hear that sound again as well
@@afz5355 Thank you so much! It just really bugs me that there's so little diversity and so few options when it comes to female vocalists lately. Good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way :)
I prefer Aretha Franklin.
Lordes critique of mass media/pop culture is likely product of her cultural upbringing in Aotearoa.
We receive the pop culture from the US, but because a lot of the cultural institutions presented in this media are absent in NZ we are more easily able to identify the artifice.
We don't have the mega rich upper class. We don't have the isolated celebrities. Go out for dinner in a cheap restaurant in town and you wouldn't be surprised to see the prime minister, or an actor from the latest NZ movie.
New Zealanders are cynical about the pop culture industry. We know the gross corrupting influence large media companies can have, because out labour/tax laws were changed to suit Warner Bros interests.
While Lorde underwent the same kind of raised to be a star production line that many pop artists seem to go through, nothing sat right with her, because of the cynicism that NZers.
Pin this to the top, Middle 8
This was such an awesome introspection that I couldn't really get from anywhere else other than from an actual Kiwi. I appreciate this a lot.
That makes so much sense to me, I've been listening to the misfits podcast and the Kiwis always seem like you described.
I'm a New Zealander and I kinda disagree with this but good point lol
@@josharntt yeah man, im from NZ as well. Fitz and Toby know whats up
She and Lana are definetely the most refreshing faces of pop
Depressives *
@@samuelvillaalcala2796 real life is depressing
And Halsey. She’s the best pop singer right now & G-Easy is the new Eminem imo. Her song New Americana is so relatable. I also listen to Biggy & Nirvana.
Biggy - California Love & Curt Cobain 👌❤️
Sir Compton lana honestly is a genre on her own
Lana who?
It’s so pointless to compare Lorde and Billie. They’re doing entirely different things first of all, and they’re both doing amazing. They’re both talented artists who create for the right reasons.
I don't really think it's pointless. Billie's style is very similar to Lorde's. It's kinda obvious that she and Finneas got inspired by Lorde. Nothing wrong with that, it's actually pretty neat. But denying it is just stupid.
Its pretty obvious they attract attention for young edgy girls
No they are not totally different things.
I think Billie brother is the reason she is what she is...
Because the lyrics of her songs are widely different from her idols like
Ariana grande, Justin bieber etc
On the other her brother was an ex band musician
All he needed was commercially selling vocals
Which he got from his sister
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY INSPIRED BY LANA DUHH
Royals was ahead of its time, it created that pop sound we started hearing 2017-2020. I remember back in late 2013 when that song was charting nobody had really heard anything like it. Pop music at that era was very loud, fast and energetic while this didn't match the style at all. Some were blown away by its difference while others said stuff like "why is she so monotone" or "this song is boring". Then as the years went on we heard quite a few other artists using that same formula, eventually billie eliish.
I love how you break down music.
Crazy what a middle aged geologist in Colorado can do with a digital audio workstation... Thumps up to Lorde
I’m reading this comment and Feeling Good On A Wednesday
¡Sparkling dots!
shes so real !!!
good south park reference
Randy Marshall, we salute you!
On her sophomore album, Melodrama, Lorde claimed that The 1975's sophomore album highly influenced her entire second record, which I always thought was interesting, so maybe that could be a cool video idea! Or just anything about The 1975, a group I'd like to see your take on!
The 1975 are fantastic. I love their storytelling and how the songs from the sophomore album continue to tell the stories from the first album. “A change of heart” takes up lyrics from “Robbers” and “Sex” and one actually gets to know what happened to the relationship Matty was singing about.
Edit: lyrics from “The city” are also reoccurring.
I also love the 1975, but I'm pretty sure you're talking about their debut album.
Lorde definitely had immense influence on Billie Eilish's music!
I love how you addressed all the artists that are literally copies bc it’s so freaking true
Not all of them. Certainly not Banks.
Krist Mike D'arcy oh yeah definitely not all, just plenty
Too bad lorde music is dead lol
shamir fisher eh i still know plenty of huge fans and her last album is supposedly amazing, also was like 50% or more Jack Antonoffs work and he’s an amazing artist.
Shamir you should check out Billie Elish, her stuff is really similar to Lorde's first album.
Lorde's impact really was huge. I've also noticed how artists like Lady Gaga and Kesha have changed and adapted to the more minimalistic/personal style with Joanne and Rainbow. Hymn by Kesha actually sounds like a Lorde song.
I mean... Lady gaga took a break from music, went into acting, had serious health problems, reflected deeply on her life, made albums that were closer to Broadway than pop, and matured imensly, but sure, she did it because lorde did it.
@@joewhite4456 yes, she did it because lorde did it
Kesha had a break in her music if you noticed, the album ‘rainbow’ was about 5 years after the previous album and it was just after the time of her legal battle with producer dr Luke who forced Kesha to have an image and forced her to a certain music style, the change in the album ‘rainbow’ displays what kind of songs Kesha finally wanted to make
@@sorrydidistutter7335 btw kesha also changed pop music with her electronic music/sound back in 2009-2011
@@fashahaidid what do think it be like if billie ellish came the early 2010s instead ?
Thank you for making a video on my favorite artist on my birthday!
I love how Lorde kinda came out of nowhere and dethroned Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus
I'm 5 days older than Lorde. What am I doing with my life?!
Life’s not a race, dude.
@@TheGeorgeD13 that's reassuring, thank you (:
Living your life. Not Lorde's. Love yours.
Probably not music.
Whatever you decide to do, don't be Lorde. You're a much better person by default just by not being Lorde (as a project not as a woman)
this song a whole bop
*Talk* *about* *Frank* *Ocean*
Bless you my friend, your content and the way you narrate, is wonderful
I am Lorde
Yah-yah-yah
Somebody had to do it..
Cosmonaut Cat Fuck! I thought the exact same thing!
FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT
Thaaaaank you!
Help me unload the car.
Oh, another thing I forgot to mention: thank you very much for this video, I really enjoyed it and I was very pleased to see one of my favourite artists as the main subject of a Middle 8 video.
More videos please!!!!! I fell in love with your channel!!! No one talks about these artists such as Tame Impala and UMO, finally I found someone who does and goes in depth with them!!! Keep up the good work!!!
I love when lorde gets the recognition she deserves!!
Great video as always. Was thinking a couple of years ago that Royals was a turning point in popular music and a catalyst for many of the songs on the Top 40. Whilst I personally believe that it inspired a big load of underdeveloped music, I still believe that Lorde’d ability to break the mould of the pop music at the time is incredible.
Whether it's Lorde's impact or not, I just like how lyrics are given more importance now by the audience (and producers) in which drives the more substantive songs that we have today.
Makes you want to actually listen to a song, and not just hear it to dance to it.
Funny because pop music has now evolved into something neither fun nor lyrically deep.
Dance songs can have lyrical substance. As a matter of fact, you can send a powerful message without lyrics. It’s not mutually exclusive. It’s called MUSIC for a reason. And popular music now is a lot less intellectually and emotionally stimulating than it was just four years ago. Hell, so is Alternative.
@@ArtistsCry13 I agree music nowadays is so boring and unlistenable
Wtf what radio music are you listening to? Most lyrical content is garbage, shallow fake deep crap. Like this dude said pop music today is neither deep not fun, it's just boring trite to put you asleep
That sponsor transition: smooth
She literally never has to work again.
xD
Love your commentary yo
Dude I’ve been watching your videos for a while now and honestly have no idea why you have so little subscribers your content is amazing especially the editing. Can really tell you have a genuine love for the craft of music too as I see you on the list of patrons from other music related channels like polyphonic. So much respect for you man. Can’t wait for this channel to blow up, much praise :)
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
Royals: Exists
Videogames: I'm a joke to you?
Benjamín Blanco Di Russo Lana is an Alternative Queen, she walked so Lorde could run.
Forreal, thats all i was thinking throughout this whole video
@@Dragonmont honestly I agree and I can see that Lorde was inspired by Lana but at the same time they are very different, Lana is more cinematic and elegant whereas Lorde is more minimalistic and something you dance to yet they have the same or similar emotion in their music
But videogames wasn't as popular as royals, I literally didn't know who lana del rey was until 2017(i don't live in the us btw)
I love seeing the lorde people getting so angry at that comment even though they do the same to Billie Eilish, and get so triggered at people copying lorde when she really wasn’t the OG when it came to alternative pop.
The editing in this video is amazing, the audio and mixes of the stems in the background is really good.
Thanks!
@@Middle8 I'm watching this again and again for the sounds at 1:00 and 3:32
I ain't sayin a video on glass animals is the move, but i think it might be...
It's so funny the fact that Royals made this whole thing and it's Lorde worst song. She did with her worst what many couldn't with their best era.
FINALLY someone said it. True Lorde fans would understand how Royals was shit compared to all of her other songs. Also I believe people nowadays are actually giving her appreciation for her new album Melodrama like almost everyone wanted it to be album of the year
@@kashikokunoyoucant950 --- wrong. the record company obviously felt Royals was her strongest song or it would NEVER have been a single
Seriously? i know Royals was played out but calling it shit is extreme imo its still a bop
+skyblaze eterno wrong there. They knew it was her ONLY commercial-sounding song ever. It gave her the label 'Pop'. It sounded generic. it lacked 'Lorde'. I may be wrong to say that the song is horrible, but I am not WRONG to say that it is her LEAST great song. Imo or not. Some will agree. A few won't. But you decide.
+Dmnion Rulez messed it up. srry.
I was not expecting that promo in the end
I love how Lorde writes her lyrics. For her age, she is a refreshing voice. Like everybody said then, she is aging like a fine wine
Great video bro!!! Love pure heroine
Great thoughts! I enjoyed Lorde's work, but haven't heard it in a while. Going to revisit it for sure!
I got to perform Royals with my high school marching band at our halftime shows as a bass drummer which was awesome because we got to play the main beat at the beginning with rim shots for the snare.
This song is still a bop to this day
What about Amy Winehouse? She opened the door for the new wave of alternative female artists. None of the names in this video would exist if it wasn't for her. Just like Bjork in the 90's.
Just my 2 cents, I could be wrong tho. I love Lorde, she's amazing. ♡
Winehouse wasn't alternative . . . she was jazz , soul and R&B.
Winehouse is a legend and an amazing crooner, but she was just a R&B gangster.
None of these people mentioed in the video would exist without Bjork though, you're right. Although I think we're giving Lorde credit that belongs actually to Ellie Goulding , who got it from Bjork, who got it from Kate Bush.
iTeacupPanda I agree a lot with you. 👏
Amy Winehouse was an "R&B gangster'' ? Please elaborate.
@@iTeacupPanda so, Bjork got it from Kate Bush..?🤔
@Jodi Gilar Kate Bush came out in the 80's and was a major influence in eccentricity and music from a feminine perspective with romanticism and sensuality with heavy use of female headvoice / falsetto tones She was a good inspiration in Art Pop and Art Rock as well as eccentric music.
Bjork cites her as one inspiration and listened to her often. Though their music is different they have a lot of similarities. Bjork has also used similar techniques in her instrumentals where Kate might use ( I can't think of the word ) samples of glass breaking in different levels to form a song , Bjork would do volcano sounds in place of keyboard notes.
They're both hugely experimental and I think Kate kind of opened the door for her as a form of an idol ( whether her largest inspiration or not ) to show her what she could do. They're both drawn to the avant garde end of things.
It’s so sad that I’m like a week older than Lorde and I’m sitting watching CZcams in a bath..
Nice video! I'm glad I found your channel!
Love these kind of videos. Great job, dude!
MIDDLETHONY 8TANO TALKING ABOUT ONE OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS YAAAAAAS!!
Dont you dare compare middle8 to garbage ever again.
ac bd lol wut you on about, soyboy
"Randy!"
-Sharon 2018
Thank you for taking this topic and doing it justice. I'm a 33 year old musician who loves music, not just the music he loves. I want people to embrace what they love, be it the headiest music, or complete pop-trash. Neither make you smarter, better, dumb, or worse and yet it's so hard to talk about it without people trashing anything that they don't already love. Lorde is one of those artists that, from my experience, people either think IS pretentious, or her fans are, OR that she's just "pop-trash" (Which even if she was, I would still embrace if she wrote as well as she did). I would have never guessed that in my early 30s I would EVER have a moment where I just sat there stunned at how much I loved an album, after just a few listens to an album .. written by .. a teenager. But "Pure Heroine" was that moment I guess. It wasn't even Royals. Royals is a remarkable song, but if you were to look at my Google Music album stats it's literally the song I've given thumbs up the least. On repeated plays when every song ends up being remarkable it actually falls to the background for me. Buzzcut Season's chorus still is one of the most beautiful choruses I've ever heard. EVER. Still sane, a song never talked about is probably my favorite song on the entire album. It's such a mix of being remarkably personal AND simple at the same time that it's the closest thing I've had in years to my mind being blown by a song.
I've recently had to admit that not only do I love that album, but that I'd proudly display it among Abbey Road, Rubber Soul, Good Kid MAAD City, To Pimp a Butterfly, Ready To Die, Illmatic, Joanna Newsom's YS and Divers.. you know, albums that are uniquely amazing and greatest album of all time material. To me this is no longer strange, but every once in a while I have to remind myself that I have a possible GOAT album written by a girl in not just her teenage years, but MID teenage years. ... A fucking teenager wrote an album that I, a musician, know I would never be able to write. It's both heartbreaking to me and the greatest thing ever simultaneously. These kind of surprises are the reason that I love music so much.
I've wanted to create video essays on music for so long because I write.. pretty much daily.. 10-20 paragraphs in CZcams comment sections about stuff like this and .. it's probably a waste of everyone's time considering how terrible the CZcams comment system before you even start to look at the content of them. For now I can step back for a second and know someone is doing a good job at this already. Thanks.
Great vídeo, I loved all the content
Royals is kind of like the movie shreak when they first came out they were huge hits and there was nothing like them out there but then immediately after that caused leaguens of imitators to flood the industry changing it completely
do u mean Shrek? coz if so Lorde Farquad ;)
Do you mean the 1996 movie Scream? Because that definitely inspired a lot of slasher imitators afterwards but without the clever movie commentary and self-awareness.
Omg yeasssssss.. So many cartoon try to copy character like donkey and shrek nowadays
Yeah, that and no one remembers is after, unless the movie name is a typo.
Billie Eilish can NEVER get on miss lorde's level!
why compare queens? they're both incredible in different ways
@@whitneym495 LMAO "queens". Billie is good but no, just no
Crazy Person and you’re totally entitled to your very wrong opinion!
@@whitneym495 LMAO ok
Why ever not? I prefer Lorde too but Billie is pretty amazing as well and still so young...its not a competition lol
never would of expected the plug but amazing video other wise. Thanks
Ah I love this! I have posted a few videos including Lorde's stuff, she is definetely one of my favourite artists. Such a gem
I was under the impression Lorde was like 35 when she got big.
The first time I heard the song on radio, I thought it was a group full of adult females. I was shocked to hear this song was made by one 16 year old girl. Lorde has definitely been a game changer.
Haw haw dude thinks hes telling a new joke. Yawn
@@MusicMasterTasmania Yes teenage girl...not from Colorado...not a geologist...
I love dream pop
LMAO NICE THAT WAS THE SMOOTHEST LANDING I SEEN TO A PLUG U HAVE MY APPLAUSE
exellent video
very informative, insightful and well structured
just found your channel
you've got a new subscriber 👍
You should do a video over songs like "Hey Ya" by OutKast or "Walking the Dog" by Fun. that have somber lyrics but an upbeat musical style. I think it's awesome when artists do that, personally. Love your videos!
Steven English omg aim and ignite is like my favourite album ever
@@laurentheengineer2633 it's one of my favorites! Their second album is nowhere near as good in my opinion.
I totally agree
This isn’t Lorde, this is Running On Empty Fooooooooood Review.
Yeeeeet
@edd castro that's the opening for every video from the channel "The Report of the Week"
it’s gween
Looooooool
LMAO
absolutely love your videos!!! was always wondering what caused or helped the shift in pop music
Great analysis!
I believe Lorde was also one of the first to utilize metamodernism in her music. She was ahead of her time, and brilliant.
I know people said they got tired of this song... I never did... I don't know how, but I never did. Lorde's Pure Heroine is the only album I've listened to where I've loved every song. Still listen to it.
That was one smooth transition into the ad
*I'll love this woman and her work till the day I die.*
You're so underrated, damnit.
Just discovered you and love your stuff! I'd love to see an analysis of the band Foals.
Love Foals
the way she writes all her songs at a very young age is crazy
pure heroine and melodrama is one of the best albums