7 Songs That 'Rip Off' Other Tunes
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- Almost all songs are inspired, at least in part, by those which have come before them. However, sometimes a song bares such a likeness to its influences that it veers dangerously into the realms of plagiarism. Today I look at seven such songs that, to varying degrees, 'rip off' other songs.
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Sources:
Statement from Warner Chapel in regards to Lana Del Rey: www.rollingstone.com/music/mu...
Tom Petty on The Strokes: www.rollingstone.com/music/mu...
Interview clips with George Harrison (1976): • Video
FabFourArchivist look at 'My Sweet Lord' lawsuit: • George Harrison’s $1.6...
Billie & Finneas discuss 'Bad Guy': • Billie Eilish and Finn...
Vanilla Ice claiming they're "not the same": • vanilla ice-it's not t...
Vanilla Ice explaining that he went 5x platinum: • Vanilla Ice Explains S...
Interview with Roger Taylor: • Roger Taylor on Vanill...
Gap Band and Trinidad James added to 'Uptown Funk' songwriting credit: www.rollingstone.com/music/mu...
Ronson sued by Zapp over 'Uptown Funk': pitchfork.com/news/mark-ronso...
George Harrison interview with Bob Harris: • George Harrison on the...
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Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction
0:18 Billie Eilish VS. The Doors
2:17 Vanilla Ice VS. Queen
5:53 Lana Del Rey VS. Radiohead
8:10 The Strokes VS. Tom Petty
9:16 George Harrison VS. "He's So Fine"
11:28 Bruno Mars VS. all funk music!
Vanilla ice explaining how it's different by adding one extra note made me lose brain cells
Ik right lmao
Yeah he literally added a single 8th note.
HAHAHAHHA I WAS DYING
It's still a joke in our circle
One more note, one less brain cell.
Paul McCartney had once explained how he thought of it as a compliment when his music was copied, because that meant they couldn't think of anything better.
Good point 😅
You can say that when you are an iconic musician and most of your songs are well known. It's harder when you are hardly earning any money off your music and somebody big steals it to make bigger money you will ever earn and won't credit you.
I thought it was gonna be nice like "Great minds think alike" I was wrong lol
@@bmp2791 sad that this is pretty common even outside the music industry. Take some business companies for example, people get a raise or promotion from stealing others ideas while the other party earns nothing.
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
the fact ICE couldn't defend his own argument without laughing at how ridiculous he sounded
Ya, but in his defence like the video said, what he was doing was pretty much the norm in rap
That laugh is known as Duper's Delight.
Copyright is too strong anyway, great artists steal.
Its different. Has an extra ding.
It was worth it tho. Would you do it?
Although Vanilla Ice’s “cause I added one note so it’s different” statement is hilarious, he is right about publishers only sue a song when it’s extremely successful and famous.
Vanilla Ice may be a douche, but he's much smarter than he lets on.
Probably the only time ever that someone strengthens their point by stating, "It's like Vanilla Ice said".
every time! it was first: haha vanilla ice is gonna speak and second: huh, he made a really good point.
lemme clarify and say he made good points about the business side. the shit he said about ice ice baby was bs and he knew it.
Yeah it was strangely satisfying to hear Vanilla Ice validated for the first time in world history.
I heard hes actually doing well fronting a Punk/Thrash Rock band on East Coast. @ least b4 th Country shut down anyway
averyellis stole from Queen
I'm a simple man.
If I see Jim Morrison on a thumbnail, I just click
I see that you're a man of taste 👍
@@iamgroot6965 Agreed, The Doors are legendary
perfect clickbait!
@@ziggycat7504 it's not clickbait if he actually talked about him
Jim Morrison will always be The Man
"he's a white rapper from florida" is the definition of throwing shade without technically throwing shade, gotta love Roger
@Ryan Powell yes
@Ryan Powell I think he was just stating it because it is an unusual thing that you wouldn’t expect. Most of the famous hip hop rappers were not white at the time and he is from Florida, somewhere you wouldn’t expect a rapper. You would more likely expect rappers from NY, LA, Detroit and not Florida which most people see as a place for retirement.
@Frank Lopez Well, you gotta realize. This was before Eminem. Eminem changed everything. Not only did Em become the best selling rap artist (and one of the best selling musicians period) of all time, he changed the rap game forever. Shady isn’t only popular in America, or even western nations, but worldwide.
He' saying he's not authentic/original anyway, e.g. what should we have expected.
Joshua Taylor : White being paired with in originality is racist and ignorant. White American culture is so mainstreams and has been for so long that it isn’t easily distinguished from other developed cultures, but it doesn’t make all white people unoriginal.
I wrote a guitar riff that was so unique and different to me at the time. I then heard this exact riff in a song at a Spanish restaurant I later worked at. There was no way this song could have influenced my own, because there was no way I would have heard it previously. I had never listened to Spanish pop music before.
The moral of the story is be careful when using the term rip-off. It could simply be a coincidence. I've experienced this first hand.
Yea but that Spanish pop could have gotten it from somewhere. Music is always interchanging between cultures and society.
There only are 8 tones in a scale (if we don't include accidentals). That meanst there is a limit to how many melodies can be written. For example melody 1= 11111; melody 2=11112; ......; melody 12143=12143. which btw is the beginning of happy birthday (c, d, c, f, e).
I firmly believe that if we had software into which we could input all the melodies ever written, we would see that the majority of the melodies in songs aren't "original" and had been stumbled upon by someone else.
@@7Volkan6 i wonder if Mary had a little lamb and London Bridge using the same notes was intentional
I started writing a song recently which accidentally turned into Dear Prudence. I decided to start again.
@@7Volkan6 to an extent yes, but I think part of it is because of how simple music is. If you go back to the early 70s, you can listen to a track called "Child in TIme" by Deep Purple, you will see that they likely had very few problems when it comes to being sued for copyright. The intro is borrowed from another song, which I think had been okayed, and there is a two second bit on the organ that sounds like "Flight of the Bumblebee", but even then, not close enough to be a copyright infringement in my mind. When you write music like that, you are far less likely to copy other works except for people claiming small bits might sound like small bits of their songs. Compare that to a typical rap songs that will play over two chords with a 3 note melody, you are more likely to take someone else's work, even if accidentally. And when it comes to Uptown Funk, I think there is another thing worth mentioning. A genre will typically die out when it has been figured out. Not always, because sometimes someone just does something so different that is succesful and others copy it, but a lot of the time, a genre dies when a style's original sounds becomes harder and harder to find. Van Halen was part of the generation that brought back rock after a few years of a down period because they sounded unlike anything else, and suddenly, all the bands started sounding like Van Halen. Nirvana popularised a whole genre because what they sounded like was "uncharted territory". Funk was never super mainstream I think, but it had it's share of attention 60s-80s, before it started dividing into sub groups that strayed further and further from the original sound. Going back to that style might give you a hit because people forget that sound (or are too young to be familiar with it), but that style died out because it became harder and harder to be creative in it without stepping in other musician's toes, and if you make a song in that style, your song is going to sound like everything else from that time, and some of them might be able to make a case for infringement
“a white rapper from florida with a funny haircut”-roger taylor HAHAHAH
Kaia Drori the king (should i say queen) of throwing shade
he's honestly so iconic
Why is that so funny that you have to go “HAHAHAH”?!
yeah, ROGER 😂 hahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂
YAS QUEEN 💅🏻
Why does vanilla ice look like a character from lazy town
@@mallypally it is ziggy xD
omg you're right
XD XD
He is
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“Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different from that from which it was torn.” - T S Eliot
There’s a difference between plagiarism and transfiguration that seems to be forgotten all too often.
How does this only have 15 likes
@@cacomelon4768 im suprised it has that many tbh
Bravo.
Tom Petty was such a gentleman. Bless his soul, he was a legend.
Legends never die. So I would say Petty is a legend. 😁
@@InstantGiblets absolutely. He was so much fun too. Just the kind of guy you love. 🤗
he was a tweaker who died of his addiction.
Back in the 80s Tom Petty's record label wanted to raise the album price listing on Petty's new release. At the time all new releases were listed at $8.98. MCA wanted to increase the price level to $9.98 like they had with Steely Dan's Gaucho. Petty protested by telling MCA he was planning to call his new album Eight Ninety Eight. MCA responded by not raising the price. I guess Petty's "I Won't Back Down" was an anthem to him label .
@@joshuakosch6475 actually he didn’t die from his addiction he kicked all drugs in the 90s you are one very ignorant individual
Teacher: you plagiarized this paper
Vanilla Ice: No I didn’t!! I changed this word right here
😂😂😂
Noah Derkos What
Vanilla is a lazy student
Chocolate is getting a scholarship
Lol 😂
Me holding a presentation:
My teacher: You stole that text from wikipedia
Me: Nooo, I changed that word, see?
My mum’s a teacher and a student got called out for plagiarism from Spark Notes. It was impressive because the plagiarism didn’t even answer the question or follow an essay format! The student was given a 0 but a chance to try again. They submitted the exact same thing but got a thesaurus and changed a few words and structures...
I love how Tom Petty is actually the complete opposite of petty
@@Lloyd-Franklin i wouldnt blame the artist, the labels are the ones who own their music, theyre the ones moneygrabbing
@VinnieSmyyth I don't think that's what Lloyd meant. I think it was more of an "artist being the opposite of their last name" thing.
He's almost like A Boy Named Sue.
Probably helped that the rip-off is bland compared to what Petty composed.
@@Lloyd-Franklin Cilla Black's real name was Cilla White, but a journalist got it mixed up and she decided to keep it
"he's a white rapper from Florida with a funny haircut"
That went 5x.
@Frank Lopez no he made good points
@Frank Lopez doesn’t matter he made points
@Frank Lopez the point is its funny can’t you read Frank
Rogah
My favorite music lawsuit was when John Fogerty was sued for plagiarizing his own music. Fantasy Records owned the rights to "Run Through the Jungle." They (meaning company President Saul Zaentz) sued Fogerty, claiming his song "The Old Man Down the Road" was a rip off of the older CCR song.
Zaentz had been called a thief by Fogerty. The songwriter had written a song called "Zanz Can't Dance (But He'll Steal Your Money)," so when someone pointed out to Zaentz that "The Old Man Down the Road" sounded a lot like "Better Run Through the Jungle" he saw this as an opportunity to get back at Fogerty, and so he sued him for copyright infringement. Fogerty won the lawsuit by bringing a guitar into court and demonstrating the differences between the two songs to the jury.
I also heard the judge made a statement along the lines of "You can't sue Fogarty for sounding too much like Fogarty."
Lmao
The song was changed to "Vanz Can't Dance" before release.
"What Vanilla Ice is trying to explain here..."
I don't know why, but that part really cracked me up
But the thing is that even if he's wrong, he communicated his thought process well enough. So, like... did it need to be reiterated?
@@IsomerMashups He was probably explaining so that people who don't know about music or the music industry would have a clearer picture about what Vanilla Ice was saying. "What Vanilla Ice is trying to say" is probably just ironically funny, and wasn't meant in a derogatory way to begin with. I still think it's funny though xD
He is speaking the language of *_R A P_*
He is “trying”
It made me crack up too... like not only can he not write his own riff or give credit where it is due, but he can't even clearly explain why he believes he got "caught"
Even Vanilla Ice himself was laughing as he explained the "difference"
It didn't even SOUND LIKE a change,but merely a bad edit,😛
He did laugh, because he knows he stole the sample. But he is right. If it had only sold 10,000 copies, then nobody would have given a shit getting their slice of 10k.
@@jasonbossardt9453 For real he IS right. No one would sue if it only sold a few copies. But ,"Ice,Ice baby" still sucks though. Pet rocks sold millions of "copies" to, But that doesn't mean they are "art".
James Slick The thing is that Ice Ice Baby would have gotten the same success even if they had another sample.
@ And THAT is why I stopped giving a 🐀's ass about music after about 1985 or so.
I think, with only 7 root notes in the whole musical universe, it's pretty remarkable that every song doesn't sound the same.
7 in each key, 12 notes in western music but the point remains. some of these copyright lawsuits were absolutely absurd. how can u sue someone over 3 chords on guitar and similar drums?
@@rootsgrassusa Yep, all desiged to feed the "Fat Cats" Ahha, more than likely, does anyone know why we play in 440hz instead of 432hz?
@@ganeshapsychedelicrock4027 because most modern music are based on classical music, classical music splits the frequencies that makes the musical notes into 12 notes with equal spaces between them, that is to make songwriting easier and to allow other musicians to play with each other without sounding off. For example, a song in C major can be played in D major easily, especially if the singer prefers this key or they want to change the feeling of the song.
You should listen to some Arabic and Turkish music. Some Arabs would use microtones and quartertones, some would intentionally take a regular scale such as the C major scale, and sharpen or flatten a note slightly and intentionally to make it sound different.
12 notes
@@ganeshapsychedelicrock4027 the frequency ratio between notes stays the same across keys so you can change keys which is important because you could start on any root note so every key should sound good
"it's literally plants vs zombies"
ah yes, a woman of culture
Thank you @ghost mall , I needed this
@ghost mall 'literally' is just used for emphasis now bro
@ghost mall Yea, welcome to modern language, pal.
@ghost mall you literally missed the point bro
@@maximillianford9301 just because the majority use that word incorrectly doesn't mean they're right. That's not how grammar works.
"What Vanilla Ice is trying to say here" is such marvelous shade.
He's trying to say "Ding-ding-ding-diggy-ding-ding...
How about everybody agreed to stop using that term shade sounds quite ghetto
@@tomlewis5542 is that your only problem with using the term “shade” lol
They added an 8th note. That's it.
@@obscurity3027 why is he a tool though? He seems like a nice and respectful guy. He was just trying to make some money. Do you have a reason for not liking him, or just based off face value?
I like how the only artist who isn't petty about getting his music "stolen" is Tom Petty.
Actually, he sued Sam Smith.
I believe Zepplin is also pretty chill when it comes to it. They acknowledge they ripped off a lot of blues tracks so they feel it'd be wrong to sue for someone ripping off one of theirs.
@@bluemarlin6806 He didn't, he had a co writer Jeff Lynn and he sued
@@bluemarlin6806 Wasn't him that sued, was the others who had credit on the track
he doesn't want to live like a refugee
"What Vanilla Ice is trying to explain here...." I appreciate the translation.
Seemed pretty straightforward.
The keyboard intro to A Whiter Shade of Pale by Procol Harum (1967) is almost 100% Sleepers Awake by J.S. Bach. How did they get away with it?
Public domain
Yep, Bach is out of copyright.
A whiter shade of pale wasn't the only song that Procol Harum took classical inspiration from. To me it seems like lawyers have found a way to tax inspiration. How can you possibly come up with something entirely new without it, in some way, being affected by things you have experienced before.
There is also a little bit of JS Bach in Jimi Hendrix’s Woodstock Improvisation.
Other instances also includes him kinda put Beatles’ riffs into his song and improvised them. I mean he basically covered Sgt Pepper three days after the initial release in front of the Beatles, yet even Paul said it’s a wonderful rendition.
People don’t call Hendrix a copycat, rather we say Jimi was the most creative guitarist who ever walked on this planet.
The issue should not be always focusing on people copying others’ riffs. It’s about how you are able to take those as inspiration and make it your style.
Yep... I don't care what song you're talking about... Bach did it first, and probably better... 🖖
The people trying to sue Mark Ronson are laughable. You can’t sue just because every single funk song uses chicken scratch type guitar licks. If that’s true, then every single funk song ever is about to be sued by Nile Rogers.
That's where i was landing on this. Am i allowed to play a dotted 16th note as a rhythmic support or are all those taken?
Suddenly everyone is going to owe Nile Rogers a lot of money
@@imchipjames one 32nd, thats all you get!
The credit for the ‘don’t believe me just watch’ lyric is so stupid
@@leehamlet5900no it ain’t if u listen to Trinidad’s song it’s more than just that little part
“i’m afraid to touch the guitar because i might be touching somebodies note” that hit so hard and is such a relevant statement
matthias • Will ** PLEASE go and kick Don Henley in the balls??
In hindsight he was being overly dramatic. He should’ve just taken the L and kept it moving.
IKR???
Nah. He clearly ripped off the song
Now you know how George Harrison felt with My sweet Lord.
YOO WHEN I HEARD THE PLANTS VS ZOMBIES THEME I BURST OUT LAUGHING.
The strokes "bad decisions" is identical to "dancing with myself"
Ya bc it was co-written by Billie Joel and done on purpose lol
@@joshuabrunetta4656 Do you mean Billie Idol?
@@falconier1979 ya my bad. Daddy was highhhhh last night
About Freddie's reaction to Ice Ice Baby, Peter Freestone wrote: "When he first heard it, Freddie just listened to the start and thought it was Under Pressure being played on the radio again. He carried on eating his breakfast and suddenly stopped, frowning. I thought there was a problem with his food but he said ‘no’. He started listening intently and couldn’t believe his ears. He was smiling when he said that he couldn’t believe what he was hearing…. a blatant rip-off. He got hold of Jim Beach, who was already on the case and left it at that, always remembering that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
My Sweet Lord may be a rip off but they just sound so different. 1.6M .. how much change did George have on him? Come on that was one of the last good songs he wrote. But not sure why he was so worried ..... he had millions more and he was about the spiritual world not material. .haha
@@michaelmiller7160 cause that was his work. Regardless of how much he had, that was still something that he worked hard on and had every right to protect his work
@ghost mall this comment deserves everything 😂
@@michaelmiller7160 No, that's wrong. They're the exact same song besides the bg singers placement. Now where we agree is that it doesn't mean he ripped it off. He very well could've met and collaborated with someone who also worked with the 50s group. Enough time lapsed, and it's extremely plausible that George didn't know or like that song. Many things come into play here.
@ghost mall Asking the real questions! 😂
Ice Ice Baby sampled Queen’s bassline without even asking. How he thought he was gonna get away with it is beyond me.
This is kinda irrelevant butit's okay lmao. I play bass, and I was practicing under pressure. My cousin came in and said "omg I love ice ice baby!" And I was like, no you uncultured swine
Kaylee Puterbaugh toy story
he stole the line from arguably one of the greatest and definitely one of the most popular bands.. how did he think he’d get away with stealing from queen & bowie ??
nova dowdell why is everyone dick riding Queen they are only popular now because of the movie and Wayne’s World so thank them their music isn’t very influential
@@mitchtrubiscuit7876 lol, that's hilarious dude
So glad I stumbled across this channel. I love music but am not a musician, so greatly appreciate how you break things down into laypeople terms :-) Keep up the good work!
I’ve always liked music, but as I’ve gotten older - over 35, over 40 - I’m enjoying it more & more! And especially older music, different genres & styles, and the backgrounds & stories behind songs, groups and performances.
Fun little Under Pressure fact is that that sample in question almost didn't exist! John came up with the bass riff and played it to the others and it had been working well. They all took a break (cue Q + Bowie grabbing pizza together) and when they got back in the room he could not remember how it went or what he'd been playing - luckily for planet earth, Rog remembered it (and presumably having ding ding ding dada ding ding sung at him was enough to jog John's memory)
Vanilla Ice: explains something in the worst way
David Bennett: *what vanilla ice is trying to say is*
Rogerina is mad
Vanilla ice is just so trash
“White rapper in Florida with a funny haircut” 😂
Zep Langston music 😆
Nice video David
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Gotta love Roger Taylor!
Lmao actually reminds me of a few friends from high school
"This video is sponsored by the rich..."
I did bit of a double take there. LOL!
I can speak that as a studying composer at university, in the 12-tone scale it would be obvious to hear similar melodies and chord progressions in many pieces of music for certain genres... it happens on accident more than some people would believe.
After even a few lessons in music theory, it becomes really stupid hearing about lawsuits involving music/copyright infringement. Everyone borrows, everyone recognizes certain rhythms and chord progressions.
Uptown Funk: exists
Every Funk Band: *Our Property*
I know. How many songs staked a claim on Uptown Funk? I lost track.
I think there were 5.
Add "Jungle Love" by "The Time" to the list.
It's because new artists are barely artists and mainly an image...lyrics written by ghost writers and produced by other people..hell half of the "artists" can't even sing good
@@jasonm9178 well true but it's been like that since the 50's, Elvis never wrote a single song nor did Frank Sinatra. i feel like every generation has the same realisation that nothing's authentic 'anymore'
so what ive learnt is funk is illegal
DoNOTannoyKarina got to have that funk
@@DavidBennettPiano To paraphrase George Clinton, "Funk! It Ain't Illegal Yet!"
@@DavidBennettPiano I read a story about the origins of Come Together by the Beatles that exemplifies how aware Paul McCartney was of copyright infringement.
Come Together was written by Lennon.
THIS IS NOT FAIR
I WANT MORE FUNK OR ELSE I WILL COME COUNTLESS WAR CRIMES
Gotye "Some body that I used to know" is a dressed up "bah bah black sheep"
To be fair, Bah Bah Black Sheep/Twinkle twinkle etc is in the public domain. But the opening guitar plucking sample was used without permission and he got some heat for that.
Actually I found another song that's similar to the you didn't have to turd me off part it's by Fleetwood mac I can't remember the song so yeah he took that part
Trinidad sampled Too Short and Too Short sampled HIS song. 😂
08:12 well Tom Petty’s “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” also sounds suspiciously like the Jayhawks’ “Waiting for the Sun”
Tom Petty probably thought to himself "I'm not going to sue a band just because we both play a C octave chord to begin our song." Tom wasn't Petty. RIP.
1996thrh nice 👍🏾 pun... thought 💭 of the same pun though.
well, TECHNICALLY American Girl starts on a D octave chord and was pitch adjusted to match Last Nite. But yes, good on him for not caring lol
Tom Petty was great songwriter. What he also knows that any great songwriter has appropriated certain elements from their greater songwrriter forebares and influences that nobody caught them for. It's all a matter of how generously you 'adapt' other elements and how much is truly original.
he sued sam smith lol
@@mykecaouette4940 his record company sued Smith.
Some of the lawsuits against Uptown Funk are extremely silly and unfair. Like that guitar riff -- I was in jazz band in high school and that riff is like, one of the most common funk music riffs. Wow, a funk song features syncopation and riffs? Who would have thought?
Isaac Thomas I read that Mark Roson was so obsessed with perfecting that guitar part he actually ended up passing out in the studio after hundreds of takes.
"Syncopated fourths on beat 1 and 3 are only allowed to be in my song" - some greedy guy
Who would have funk?
Song is generic pop nonsense anyway
It's almost like trying to copyright the lick in jazz, or a I-V-iv-VI in pop
First time i have come across this channel ,great analysis of copied notes! In depth and good explanations👍
well, i think you can find similar progressions and melodies everywhere. it is virtually impossible to compose a song that doesn't have any elements that have been used before, even if you have never heard them.
later in the interview with roger taylor he said “try and dance yourself outta that one vanilla” and that has got to be one of the funniest things i’ve heard about the ice ice baby shenanigans
LMAO he always throws the perfect shade
Next thing you know there will be a Dance Off between Van ice and R.T .
I love how when you're a drummer you see people arguing about things that sound almost like others when in drums you play things that are so universal that everyone does it
Lmao , Definitely! Sometimes the songs they even mention to compare are the songs you're not even familiar with😂
He's much more than a drummer. He writes some of the music and sings too.
@@robertwheatley8809 who? Who's more than a drummer?
@@peterlittle4357 I think I was talking about queens roger Taylor
Dana Carey of tool says good luck copying my beats..
literally, these videos are so well done. thank you for putting in so much time and effort!
"everyone's favorite artist"
I can't tell if his joking
He meant every 16 year old girl...
@@Peanutdenver yea
@@Peanutdenver phew
"What Vanilla Ice is trying to say here..."
This made me laugh. It's like he needs translating.
Yep lol. He’s too inarticulate to get his point across
What Vanilla ice said was the truth though.
@DVN, technically yes, but he's still an inarticulate dumbass.
What Vanilla Ice is 'trying to say', made me laugh when you said that twice, clearly he wasnt capable of saying much
To be fair, he was pretty clear in both of the interviews. But I get it, he’s a dummy and that’s funny.
@@joeessig3550 He wasn't clear at all. He made a hash of describing the rhythm changes in Ice Ice Baby and in the other interview just sounded like an arrogant twat and took about 3 minutes to say 'My record sold a lot more than most rap records which is why they went after me'.
Queen: NOOOOO YOU CAN'T STEAL THE RHYTHM WITHOUT PAYING ROYALTIES
Vanilla Ice: hahaha this song goes ding ding ding
His speaking is like his singing. Fake.
@@DerekHartley I mean, he's not wrong. Nobody cares if some small artist makes a song with extreme similarities. But, if it's big, there's money to be made. They want credit.
There are only so many chords so sometimes things will sound similar.
This is kind of a silly comment chords are the same but melody structure and tempo are endless... Let's not be naive and think these artists don't know what they're doing....
3:25 BIG DEAL! It's the shaker that's thrown into the mix. STILL THE SAME SONG
The moment when Vanilla Ice was roasted by a member of Queen
"He is just a white rapper from Florida with a funny haircut" 🤣🤣🤣
kh22912 and at the end of the interview Roger goes “Dance your way out of that one Vanilla” ahahahhaha yes Roger is a savage
That’s how you know you f***ed up
Ice roasts himself, looking like that. Guy from Queen literally just gives an apt description of him lol.
@@mitchelltyler5972 I haven't seen that part yet but I'm willing to bet it was probably Roger
I have to ask this then. Is there any worse diss from a group then then the drummer putting someone in a corner? I know, but the member that gets the least respect according to jokes is the drummer. And yes, I am a drummer.
"Hey, Queen can I copy your homework?" "Yea, just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied."
“Yes but just change it the slightest slightest bit which does absolutely nothing for you because it still sounds the exact same”
Think vanilla ice needs to copy homework a bit more carefully
Ding
Queen did the same with the bassline to Good Times from Chic on Another One Bites The Dust and never credited them. Instead of changing it a bit, they dumbed it down for their mainstream rock audience.
Ha ha fuckin geez🤣
More like, secretly steals it photocopies it and changes the name at the top then secretly gives it back
You could mention "Wish you were here" by Pink Ployd being close to "Almost Independence day" by Van Morrison. Recently I realised that many songs from the Shins sound a lot like "Wine and Dined" by Syd Barrett. "Wait for the summer" from Yeasayer is strongly influenced by "Rain and Snow" by Pentangle, which is a traditionnal tune but Yeasayer didn't mention it.
The funk thing is silly, it's like copywriting a 12 bar blues. You just can't.
Wolfgang Seriously, who funking cares?
@@MasterNcognito I funking care now pay me 5 mill because you played a open chord
Shouldn’t all those artists be suing each other though? If they all say his song is the same as theirs, then wouldn’t those songs also be the same?
@@joedav67 They didn't make alot to sue for so they sued the one that made alot of money
That Jim Morrison photo is iconic.
Nah the one when his filiming ray on TV is the best
Agreed
@@parkerreese9438 so is his mugshot. He has tons of iconic photos
I knew a schizophrenic guy who thought he was Jim Morrison. I will never think of Jim the same again
Miguel Bose totally ripped his #1 hit Don DIABLO
From L.Russell Brown and Sandy Linzer s song
WIGGLE N A GIGGLE ALL NIGHT
BOSE LOST AND HAD HIS NAME REMOVED FROM THE COPYRIGHT.
Have you also noticed that the exact same note combination used for The Alan Parsons Project's "Sirius" in 1982 from Eye in The Sky, is employed in the Tears For Fears track "Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams" from 1990. The melody, in a loop cannot be coincidental. If I am not mistaken, it may even be in the same key.
"Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams" is a book by Sylvia Plath, a collection of short stories, published in 1977, after her death. Tears For Fears in their album recordings for "Songs From the Big Chair", borrowed the book title as it fitted the album's concept theme of mental illness. Sylvia Plath had a preoccupation with issues of mental illness which became a recurring theme in her books. She also writes about the universe and planets and does mention the brightest star in the sky, that is "Sirius"!. I wonder if Tears For Fears also saw the connection?
For the melody, you can see this quite often in songs from artists where Joe Bruce and Joey Utsler (ICP) are involved. Listened to the Inner City Posse albums? You may have caught melodies from songs like MC Rob Base and DJ EZ Roc's "It Takes Two," or Psychopathic Ryda albums with songs like "Scrimps" using the same one from Biggy Smalls' "Juicy." There's gotta be thousands of songs where major artists, and the underground, used at least the melody, etc. or even mimicked the lyrics.
Yeah, "Burry Your Friend" sounds so much like "People are Strange" because of the (at least when I first read about it) minimal 3 note difference to avoid copyright infringement.
Vanilla Ice might have been an asshole regarding his use of Under Pressure's sample, but he was absolutely right about how these lawsuits always go for the multi-millionaire record breaking hits, even if there's barely a thing in common between the songs
Sure, it makes sense. Going after someone who has made only a little bit of money off of a song and probably cannot afford to go through the legal process risks resulting in royalties that do not cover the legal costs and make the plaintiff look bad.
Regardless, I believe that the lawsuit was warranted in Ice's case. The same with "My Sweet Lord" by Harrison. I dislike the "Blurred Lines" song, but I felt that the lawsuit there was a stretch.
@@AT-rr2xw unfortunately a lot of things have changed since then. at least in Vanilla Ice's time, you could go Gold and still "be under the radar". nowadays, youtube and other platforms have Content ID bots scouring for any similarities to do copyright strikes on youtube. its gotten so bad, that beginner artists are using samples they have paid for as a consumer (buying a sample pack) and getting songs flagged just because they use the same samples that someone else had (which they both got from the same sample packs). its ridiculous.
It's true, but not from a good perspective necessarily. The fact that people can't necessarily afford lawyers, especially for a song that won't get much in royalties, doesn't deflect from the fact that they're still stealing the riff
Tobías Yance yeah? So what!
Of course what vanilla ice said was true. It’s not remarkable or the mind of a genius. Absolutely your chances of being sued would exponentially rise if you (or the song specifically) had huge success. Like, no shit, Sherlock!
What’s the incentive to sue a nobody or a song that never reached any success? Why are we praising vanilla ice for something that is so dim wittingly obvious that my left shoe would’ve come to the same conclusion.
Coming up on National News at Nine; scientists discover ‘water is wet!’ Yes, that’s right ladies and gentlemen, head scientist at the institute of ‘Fucking Obvious Shit’, the FOS, has released a statement exposing the fact that Vanilla freakin’ Ice was the genius to discover the wetness properties of water.
Truly remarkable revelations everybody. I just hope the world of science and religion can come together and cope with such a magnanimous discovery of this obvious piece of shit.
The very foundation of society and faith have been shaken to its core today. What else could be rattling around in the fascinating mind of Iced Vanilla?!
May god help us all.
First rule of lawsuits: if you're seeking damages you don't sue poor people.
Tom Petty was amazing. He didn't care if other people took a little somthin from his music, he *wrote a song for Scooby Doo* and he went on tour with a busted hip.
R.I.P Tom Petty
That's cool about the Scooby Doo song. However, he was bothered by Sam Smith allegedly ripping off "I Won't Back Down." They settled the dispute amicably without going to court. I'm sure that some money was exchanged.
Tom petty was a class act!
@@robf6105 i didn't know that
Sure he cared, know the facts. He sued the pants off of Sam Smith when "Stay with Me" was released. It was basically "Won't back down."
@@vzeller what's funny is that he stole the riff from every breath you take.
You are very correct. Thank you for this, I have just subscribed. You are one of the very few people on youtube who truly knows what they are typing about.
Additionally, Vanilla Ice should be horse whipped for his insolence.
Have you noticed "The Mary Tyler Moore Theme' has been 'borrowed' by the composers of the, (I can't remember which now), either the opening or closing themes for Downton Abbey? I don't think there is any doubt about that.
The thing about George Harrison is that he most certainly heard "He's So Fine" at some point in passing, but didn't realize it. He never noticed it, but it seeped into his subconscious and then later manifested in his consciousness as an original idea. In copyright law, saying I've never heard that song before can be a defense, if it can be proven that you've never heard that song. But outside of the song having been recorded and put on a shelf and never released, it's near impossible in the modern age.
Vanilla Ice: You know what I'm saying
Mr. David Piano: So what Vanilla Ice is saying.
*trying to say
That actually made me mad. Ice wasn’t “trying to say” he actually DID say and I understood him completely without the pompous British explanation. I hate it when people say “so what you’re trying to say” or something along those lines. Whoever says things like that feel like they are superior to whoever made the original comment and that their interpretation is necessary because of how much better they are.
@@JonBecker81 not necessarily, repeating or rephrasing what another person says shows that you're actually listening. You can't repeat without really listening. Now, because this is an on camera interview, and the personality clash, you may be right in this case. But don't think it's like that that in every one-on-one conversation.
2:55 Me explaining the teacher that I didn’t copy the classmates homework.
😂😂😂
“No, no, no. You seen that extra comma right there?”
0:25 I literally thought this song was a cover of The Doors until I saw the thumbnail for this video
It's also worth mentioning that in addition to paying a one time compensation fee to the family of Ronnie Mack (the writer of He's So Fine), George Harrison avoided ongoing profit sharing by *buying the record company* (Bright Tunes Music) that owned the copyright of He's So Fine 😁
"Hes a white rapper from Florida great right with a funny hair cut." I love Roger XD
I totally agree. Roger Waters and Roger Daltrey are awesome guys!
Andra sidan sjön roger taylor
Rock-n-roll will never die
@@UNKNOWNe-wm6zl true dat
Love it
*ABC need to sue twinkle twinkle little star* the guy deserved royalty
Ikr, I hope David talks about this in his next video 😂
Haniff Mohd - Twinkle Twinkle came before ABC. Mozart wrote it as a variation on a French Nursery Rhyme. I get the joke though... good One...
Public Property now. Not eligible for copyright
You mean Bouin should sue all those other 3 since it's really "Ah vous dirais-je, Maman".
Too bad he wrote it in 1761... a little past its expiration date. Also, it wasn't original even to him either, so...
@@Richard_Nickerson A bit before the concept of copyright was invented is what you mean. The first copyright law came about in 1710 and only covered books. It was intended to promote learning by encouraging publishing of books by removing the monopoly rights of the publishers and vesting them in the authors and the owners of the printed product. It was 1777 before France started following this notion that the author owned a right to publish.
Vanilla Ice wasn’t trying to say anything. He actually said it.
I would like to get something off that's been bugging me for a long time, and that's the similarities between Paul McCartney's Mull of Kintyre and the Travelling Home, which itself is based on the Scottish tune Westering Home. They're both 3/4 time, and have similar sentiments in the lyrics, and with the bagpipes have a Scottish flavour. Is there anything you can comment on there? Thanks.
Vanilla ice: we added 1 extra note so it’s totally different.
Everybody: yeah... no!
I once read that Jim Morrison wrote "People Are Strange" while taking a walk in the Hollywood Hills. He was at his bandmates house and was depressed over a girl, so he decided to take a walk and that's when the melody came to him. He wrote the lyrics on the spot in order to retain the melody. From my understanding, he used this formula to write many of The Doors greatest songs.
Yea, sometimes melodies just come into your head,
Ve created more noise that way than ever trying to sit and force something..
Get on the tar and play it, from there what should come next seems pretty natural to add to mostly.
most morrisons songs were poems he wrote.
He was a terrible singer tho
How about shadow of the day and with or without you? I can hear it. I love both songs though.
THATS HOW I WRITE SONGS!!!!
"Down Under" writers, Men at Work (Australian iconic band) were suddessfully sued for 5% of royalties for a couple of short quotes in a flute solo (injected very inventively into a completely different musical context, which lifts trite melody snippets from a kids' song, entitled "Kookaburra", to an entirely higher plane). The song writer would almost certainly have been delighted, but they'd written the song half a century earlier and were long gone. The rights had passed to the publishing company, Larrikin, who as far as I'm concerned, live in infamy ever since.
Funnily enough, the song that always comes to my mind everytime I hear "Uptown Funk" is Duran Duran's "Notorious", but that might be because that song has a strong funk influence as well.
I love how you translated everything Vanilla Ice said.
lol
So there's natural minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor, Hungarian minor, Dorian, Phrygian, Ukranian Dorian, Phrigian dominant … Just how many minor modes are there!?
Patrick Reding really there are three main minor scales... Natural, Harmonic and Melodic.
Of those, harmonic and natural are by far the most common.
Then there are minor modes including Dorian and Phrygian.
And beyond that, although other scales have names (like the Hungarian minor) you can just think about them as variations of the main scales I’ve already mentioned. So you may as well think about Hungarian minor as “harmonic minor with a #4”
I hope that helps!
12Tone has just released a video about modes, you should check it out! Turns out there are a LOT 😂
@@DavidBennettPiano
My brain hurts ...... =^>
There's also Melodic Minor.
Just leaving the smol bit of musical knowledge i do have here.
12Tone also recommends this incredibly interesting site fyi:
ianring.com/musictheory/scales/
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What version of Get Free would 6:25 be called? Is it just like her natural voice? Was it some live performance? I’d love to know and find it!
Vanilla Ice looks like a Vice City character
😂
Vanilla Ice just looks plain stupid
@@timmytoms__ hahahaha
Tommy vercetti, yeaah didn't think they'd ever let him out
Vice city looks like vanilla ice...theres quite a few years before vc was out ...that interview close to 30 yrs old obviously older than xbox or ps
So by Ice's logic, stealing is acceptable as long as the owners don't catch you? Florida man.
Copying or using music is NOT stealing
@@skyblazeeterno yes , sample is a very common practice , and it's only using a part of a song to make another part of another song , it's still art , and a lot of songs that a lot of people knows and loves use sample of other song , for reference I have a video of 20 popular US rap song and their samples : czcams.com/video/dkl-wU2iZR8/video.html
There’s a difference between Sampling with credit and just taking it. For example, 1D credited both The Clash and The Who with giving them the idea for the riffs in two of their songs. Ice just took the baseline and the royalties you would normally get out of the then sick Mercury’s mouth.
It's the code of the ghetto...that Robert Van Winkle has no connection to.
How do I contact David to let him know I know another stolen sample with no credit ?
It's hard to believe George Harrison didn't hear "He's so fine" Chiffon's song in 1963. It made it to #16 on the UK charts, which means it was a hit and had wide spread radio play. "One fine day", Doo Ron Ron, and Loc-Motion were also on the charts. The Beatles songs were exploding in the UK at the same time.
I don't know, maybe he just didn't remember hearing it. I can't imagine the hectic lifestyle the Beatles must have had. My Sweet Lord came out 7yrs later in 1970
I have always assumed he had heard it at some point in their madness and had genuinely not consciously known. His response felt true. As he ended up paying and then buying it, I think it shows he wasn't going to let it sit and felt hurt/attacked over it. A mess that worked out for each side eventually.
That George Harrison incident was indeed scary for young musicians who are trying their best to write songs. Coincidence indeed happen that way.
Well it never would have happened if it wasnt George Harrison, so most young musicians are probably safe, although it is quite scary
There were clear differences in the song too, kind of ridiculous if you ask me. For people who casually listen to music they wouldn’t even notice that both songs are similar at all.
I never realised until it got pitch corrected to be in the same key wow
I guess never write a boring predictable song, and you won't fall into the trap…
@@j_freed of sounding like a jerk? You obviously know.
The “Blurred Lines” case decision has completely messed up song copyright law.
Aaron Clift but Stairway to Heaven having it’s case overturned may have fixed that. Apparently Blurred Lines is the way it is because the lawyers for Thicke and Pharrell messed up pre-trial motions and were unable to file an appeal.
@@joermnyc But at the same time, they made a conscious effort to mimic the feel and timbre of the entire rhythm section. If I wrote a song that had zero harmonic or melodic similarity to "When The Levee Breaks," but used a sample of John Bonham's drums from that track (or tried to recreate the sound by using the same the pattern and getting the same reverb and echo), that'd be copyright infringement, but if I just had the same drum beat, there wouldn't be an issue (because you can't really copyright a rock drum beat). You have to have more than just a couple of bars of melody to infringe (Robin Thick and Pharrell took an entire rhythm track for Blurred Lines). The My Sweet Lord Decision was right (even John Lennon said George should have mixed it up a bit). I'm also pretty sure George heard He's So Fine more than once (it was a massive hit in both the US and the UK in the 60s).
The Stairway Decision set the precedent that you can't copyright line cliche and the subsequent Dark Horse Appeal set the precedent that you can't copyright a scale, so those were good.
Kylie McInnes I don’t think you can say Thick and Pharrell “took an entire rhythm track.” The two pieces are wildly, wildly different apart from a couple of seconds. It’s an attempt to copyright a rhythm and a two note bass phrase. There’s a Legal Eagle CZcams where he pretty conclusively proves (using the Stairway/Dark Horses) that the outcome of the Blurred Lines case was more bad lawyering than anything else. Complex video, but Neely’s in it for the musician angle too.
On topic, the song ROLLIN' from the k-pop group Twice lifted their intro from Blurred Lines
You might even say it's blurred the lines of what's infringement
The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony is a major case of a lawsuit over a sample.
2 bands I discovered that sound in the intro of their songs is:
30 seconds to mars: the kill
&
The red jumpsuit apparatus: misery loves its company.
Tom Petty was a good dude. And an incredible songwriter. Miss him.
Indeed. He only made Sam Smith pay him 12.5% of the royalties for "Stay with me". I mean, it could have been worse!
Johan Lindbäck Yeah Sam Smith should consider himself lucky. He “got lucky” 😉
you knew him personally?
@@silverdragon710 Some people (like me) love the man and his music so much it's almost like we did know him. Though I never met him, Tom is like a father, brother, and friend to me through his music
Clicked because Jim Morrison
I respected Billie before, don't liked, just respected. But now she's messing up with my favorite band, YOU'LL DIE-
same
Didn’t we all
Same
@@yvngxchristo It's not her. All produced pop music is just a callback to previous hits.
They don't take risks, they just rake money.
Every current pop song is an old pop song, reworked with parts of different succesful songs, so that they're just different enough, while bheing something that everyone already likes before they even hear it.
10:33 This actually is not true. There is a legal difference between Innocent Infringement and Willful Infringement. The former requires that there be no proof that the accused would have ever heard the song they are said to have plagiarised and thus is not subject to legal penalties. The latter, however, does indeed have penalties if proven to have been plagiarised.
Harrison was sued, not because he never heard the Chiffon's song, but because he subconsciously plagiarised the song, of which is not free of legal penalties and is in fact treated no different from Willful Infringement. Harrison admitted that he had heard the song, but did not think it was similar until country singer Jody Miller recorded a cover of He's So Fine with his slide guitar riff. He argued that his and the Chiffon's song were both derived from the hymn Oh Happy Day, of which he claims primary influence from, but the court ruled against that in 1976 and instead found that he subconsciously plagiarised the song, and thus had to pay royalties to the writers of the song. To make matters worse, the Chiffon's recorded a cover of My Sweet Lord a year before the verdict to hammer the similarities in.
George Harrison, despite losing the case, was more than happy to pay royalties in the case that he did accidentally take from the song. There's really not a bad bone in this man.
I got an idea for a new song. Its played on piano: Goes " HEY Dude, wont make me Mad, take a bad song ,and make it BETTER". 🍏
“White rapper in Florida with a funny haircut” That made me laugh
Vanilla ice: "its not the same"
So that was a lie.
Ding ding ding ding ding
It wasn't
@@blueprint7 Have you heard the bassline? Yes it’s a lie cause it was the same, stop defending him
@@saraa136 No it wasn't. There was an extra eighth note. There was a lawsuit because of the recording being used without credit
Would very much like to see you do a video on "Paul's Boutique" by the Beastie Boys. Btw, keep up the good work. Great videos, fantastic insight!
I thought I heard a cover version of Counting Crows' Daylight Fading, in a shop, last week. After investigating, I discovered it was a song called Just Another Day by Rod Williams.
So what you’re saying is that Tom Petty was just a phenomenal person who loved the music.
Alexander Eddy yes, and Tom had enough money, and probably owned all his publishing, so there were no other (poor)people's grubby little hands in the pie.
You could say that Petty wasn't being... petty
That's the thing, most people that get sued, aren't by the people who wrote the original, it's the right holders.
Yeah everyone needs to be more like him.
Vanilla ice explaining how his version is different is just so hard to watch
would be nice if you had the info to share about the different cases, because a motive can't be copyrighted right?
Albert Hammond should get tons of money by writing The Air That I Breathe
the confident gleam in Vanilla Ice's eyes as he says adding one 8th note to the Under Pressure hook makes it his is what gets me